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in Swing.com ·
Why no more date stamp on photos? I prefer seeing what someone looks like for real and not 10 years ago.
Lukeandkira
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Bi play required (WTF)
in Straight Couples ·
Yep, same here. We have much more success when we avoid reaching out to couples with a bi woman. Also, in our experience, the times we’ve played with a couple with a bi woman, the woman wasn’t super into my husband, and seemed more focused…
Fellas how are your ejaculations loads these days?
in Men Talk ·
Couldn’t help chiming in about my man (Kira here). I’m sure good exercise and diet helps keep his loads large and powerful (I’ve had to wash my hair multiple times from it), but drinking lots of water is key. In fact, Luke sets alarms on h…
Giving Up
in Getting Started ·
We can also understand your frustrations. Not all cities have a great LS community, and dating from online contacts can be super difficult. Once we decided to also travel for our fun “hobby”, did our journey improve immensely. We’ve been o…
Mile high club
in Fantasies ·
We’re proud to say we joined this club some years ago, on a late night flight, right there in our seats under a blanket. It helps that we’re both not tall, and I’m super flexible! ~Kira
Non- bi
in Women Talk ·
Bad behavior will continue to occur as long as there are still people who deny that it occurs, or worse, think that it’s ok. I’ve been groped and kissed by women without my consent at clubs and events. It does happen, and it really needs t…
Watching my wife fuck another man
in 3-Some ·
@CabanaTimes: I think MFM’s may be your best option for play, since how you described your playtime during an MFMF, the other woman you play with while watching your wife: she may not enjoy that experience. Head over to the Women’s forums…
Same Room or Separate
in Women Talk ·
We also agree with 25MOre, and are open to separate rooms for this one reason. Thankfully, it doesn’t happen often for us, so we most enjoy same room, all on one big bed. It’s odd why a man who would rather just watch his wife play, would…
Another newbie threesome question
in 3-Some ·
We love to host, whether in our home or hotel. Condoms, lube, wet wipes, tissues, drinks, etc are always within easy reach. And always finger foods in between rounds. ;) As far as “end time”, this is always communicated ahead of time, but…
Who likes to be Watched?
in 3-Some ·
We love being exhibitionists at a club, and can almost feel the sexual energy around us when we draw a crowd. We prefer open rooms or rooms with windows, since we love to see who’s watching. It’s super erotic for us, especially when others…
First MFM ever Any Advice from experienced mfmers
in 3-Some ·
So glad your MFM went well! Some of our most sensual, and memorable LS experiences were in an MFM. We have found that the increased connection we feel together is from such a sexy encounter! I am sure that I, along with many other ladies o…
Letters to your wife
in Open Forum ·
In the 23 years we’ve been together, writing love letters, stories and sexy texts have always been one of our many ways of communicating. Perhaps it’s because I’ve (Kira) always enjoyed writing, and this became super erotic when we started…
Hygiene at a club/party?
in Women Talk ·
When visiting a club, we prefer to “travel light”, and leave all extras (toothbrush, mouthwash, hairbrush, etc) in the car or hotel. Luke keeps condoms in his pocket for me, since I don’t trust a bowl of free condoms. Also, check what type…
why so FEW straight-straight couples
in Straight Couples ·
Sexual exploration with another consenting adult is the foundation to developing your sexual self. A first kiss, a first blowjob, a first fuck always begins without a clue to how or if you’d like it. There is nothing more rewarding than he…
Sexy clothes
in Women Talk ·
Surprisingly, I have found most of my sexy clothes from consignment or thrift shops, since I suspect people bought them for one event and never wore them again. And we love to dress up- it makes the undressing part so much more erotic and…
How long before you brought up LS?
in Swinger Advice ·
We were married for 13 years when I first mentioned how hot it would be to have people watch us. Plus, all of those years of practice made us quite confident in ourselves and our relationship to take that next big step.
why so FEW straight-straight couples
in Straight Couples ·
When we first started in the LS, I (Kira) listed as bi-curious, since I was open to exploring my sexuality. Once I was quite positive that I do not care for FF play did I list as straight. I agree that SS couples are rare to find from sear…
December 2022 Roll Call
in Cruise Talk ·
Radiance of the Seas Dec 24 — Dec 31, 2022
Embarrassed about scars
in Women Talk ·
Personally, I find scars fascinating. They are evidence of a life lived well so far. Our bodies are not meant to be perfect specimens to be viewed behind a glass in a museum. In fact, whenever I’ve done team building exercises with new str…
So, you have been on SLS for 5 years, and you are still bi*curious* .
in Women Talk ·
I (Kira) agree that the labels are confusing. I think most would define me as “bi-curious”, since I’m open to some FF play in a group setting, just not one-on-one. I listed myself as bi-curious for the first couple of years on SLS, but the…
Profile Update
in Better Profiles ·
Overall, I think you have some great portions of your profile, by describing your interests and being sincere about who you are, and what you are both looking for. I would advise you to try to cut away the negative feelings you show about…
Bi play required (WTF)
in Straight Couples ·
Bi-erasure in the LS, Esperanza? I really beg to differ. From my understanding of this term, it’s when people say you must not be bi because you have a husband, or you may enjoy playing with just another man one night, and then just anothe…
Butt Play
in Women Talk ·
You may want to try a set of butt plugs of varying sizes, so you can “graduate” to larger sizes when you are ready. And use lots of lube and take it slow- you are teaching yourself to relax, and enjoy the amazing sensations. It will be wel…
Review our profile :)
in Better Profiles ·
Welcome to the forums and hope your journey into the LS has been good so far (despite being in the middle of a pandemic)! My first thought from reading your profile is it isn’t clear what you are seeking. Are you looking for a poly relatio…
Please review our Profile and give us some feedback please!
in Better Profiles ·
OP: I’m glad to see you posted for a profile critique, after seeing your 1st post. One thing to keep in mind is that no matter how bad of an experience(s) you have had, don’t let that ruin your journey, and especially don’t let that negati…
Watch,VS Parallel Play, VS Soft swap,VS full swap?
in Soft Swinger ·
@couple: welcome to the forums. With your journey in the LS, you will find your own comfort level, and will move at your speed. I do however disagree that “most men don’t ever know when it’s safe for them to pull out”. Perhaps you’ve had b…
Bacteria
in Women Talk ·
I agree with both comments below. Ph strips are great to get to know your normal/healthy ph levels. Too high can bring one type of bacteria (BV), and too low can bring another (yeast)- but that can vary with women. And boric acid helps sta…
Looking for Regular Bull for my wife
in Finding Playmates ·
Your best bet is to post a hot date for what you are seeking. In fact, we are traveling to your city soon and posted there. It’s a great way to meet people when traveling or when you have a specific request. Good luck in your searches!
Should men shave their legs?
in Fantasies ·
@ckmate- Luke is also the same (doesn’t have much hair on his calves). We thought it could be from his ski boots (we are often on the slopes), but maybe it’s just genetic. Either way, I like both. Adds to the fun variety in this LS! ~Kira
I Hope .
in Better Profiles ·
MsMolly: yes, I do see that, but they also write under fantasies “One of her fantasies is to sit back and watch him with another woman and then join”- this should state “single woman”, since it isn’t clear if this is with the woman of a co…
I Hope .
in Better Profiles ·
Overall, I do like your profile, just have a question regarding your play preferences. You mostly seek FF play (with the guy(s) not participating, only watching), yet you are open to your man playing with the other woman. Is that correct?…
Ingredients for a stellar Certification of Single Male
in Better Profiles ·
BT: we agree this is the best approach. If the date was great, we are happy to accept a cert and to write one. If things weren’t so great, we would just politely decline.
Ingredients for a stellar Certification of Single Male
in Better Profiles ·
OP: I am assuming you have played with this amazing SM? You mention a lot of his great personable skills, but how did he interact with you both? For us, a stellar SM is not only great to hang out with, but truly adds a great dynamic to pla…
Please review
in Better Profiles ·
OP: I do like your profile (it shows a really fun, sexy, engaging couple), but I would make a couple of changes: In descriptions: remove “What you can't see on public photos is properly sized”, and take out the final paragraph (describing…
Vaginal Orgasm
in Women Talk ·
Wow, great story jfgcg..!! ;) For me, I experience various degrees or intensities of orgasms. Small, “surface” ones from nipple stimulation, more intense from clit, deeper and mind-numbing vaginal ones, and yes, super intense, animalistic…
Honest help with the profile
in Better Profiles ·
Overall, I like your profile. You have a nice way with words, which I particularly like. And I’m glad that you took any dick-pics off as suggested, since those should be shown upon request. But I do like your statement “well equipped with…
Bi play required (WTF)
in Straight Couples ·
;) A man who can make me laugh deserves to perv all he wants! (Unfortunately, Sorillo, you’ll have to use your fantasy skills for those times!!) ;) ~Kira
Ladies, please take part in writing your profile and be specific about your sexual identity.
in Women Talk ·
One more thought to add here. I have learned one of the greatest aspects of the LS is to enjoy whatever pleasures you can find in an encounter, whether it is watching your partner in deep pleasure, or even another person discovering your b…
Bi play required (WTF)
in Straight Couples ·
@Esperanza: I absolutely agree that communication is key to seek what style of play you’d like (and not like) beforehand, but I do not agree that all bi women always seek FF play in an encounter. We’ve played with couples with bi women tha…
Advice on my profile
in Better Profiles ·
To add to the excellent advice below- as MsMolly succinctly said, as a self-professed “slutty, empowered, highly sexed woman”, you have to do much better to attract women on this site. Yes, you are attractive, and I may enjoy fantasizing a…
Asking for advice on the lifestyle
in Getting Started ·
Welcome to the lifestyle! To add to the good advice below, my main question/concern I have for you is in regard to your profile. You list as a single woman, but mention your man, have pictures with him and it looks like you’ll only play to…
Lovely LS couples, Why am I getting blocked?
in Better Profiles ·
That sounds amazing- thank you!! If we do find ourselves on your side of the country, we’ll definitely reach out!! ;) Kira
Is noise a turn on
in Men Talk ·
We like to hear sounds of pleasure, especially as good affirmations that we’re hitting the right spots! And, I (Kira) am definitely very vocal and find that the release of moans also brings on more pleasure, which leads to more intense org…
Lovely LS couples, Why am I getting blocked?
in Better Profiles ·
Your profile looks great to me, especially those massages!! But have you changed around any photos lately, especially your cover photo? I view this site on my phone, so the cover photo is quite small. From a quick glance, it almost looked…
Bi play required (WTF)
in Straight Couples ·
We’ve also encountered couples where the woman just desires me (Kira), and that just doesn’t work for us. My man desires (and deserves) a woman who wants to rip his clothes off, and not to be treated as “second helpings” or a “watered-down…
Bi play required (WTF)
in Straight Couples ·
Moekathy: really great points, and we’ve also made similar conclusions. We do wonder how many couples out there feel that FF play is a polite (or simple) way to initiate play, when all the women really want to do is get right to playing wi…
Mayday! Mayday!
Thanks for the peek! I too also like #4 for the natural pose. I also like #2 with you cooking, like you didn’t really know your photo was being taken, and that also looks natural (non-staged). It can also be fun to have an album called “fu…
Mayday! Mayday!
OP: I didn’t get the chance to see your original profile (busy week), but I like your profile now- shows a genuine, interesting person. And your forum posts show you’ll go far in this LS. I also wouldn’t mind taking a peek at your pics, si…
Single male profile - give it to me
in Better Profiles ·
Aw, that’s too bad. But at least you’ll have a lot more swingers down there! And women have a huge range of tastes regarding pics, and how much skin they’d like to see. The key is to keep them tasteful, smile, and remember to only have “di…
Single male profile - give it to me
in Better Profiles ·
It looks like I’m also late to the party, because I see you once had pics of a “naked ripped torso”, and I missed it? Bummer!! Personally I would enjoy seeing that, especially doing something fun like beach volleyball or rock climbing shir…
Leading up to first meet up
in Swinger Advice ·
@Vagas- so glad to hear that your much-anticipated time with you SM went well! And welcome to the exciting world of swinging! We are also like you both that we’ve been together a long time (19+ years), and I can tell you that we’ve grown m…
Shaved, trimmed, or a jungle What do women like best?
in 3-Some ·
Agree with Nymoh! Day after stubble is really not fun!! ~Kira
Updated profile
in Better Profiles ·
Yes, much more clear! :) I just didn’t want you to lose out on making some great sexy connections!! Good luck and have fun out there!! Kira
Updated profile
in Better Profiles ·
I, Kira, do like your profile and pics, but..... we’d never contact you or be interested, since in your “ Looking For”, you only want to play 1:1 with a woman. And since I don’t play as a hot wife (only together with Luke), we’d assume a M…
How do you politely thank you, next a male at a club?
in 3-Some ·
OP- great question. We agree that body language speaks volumes, and having the male half stand up and hold out his hand to shake the hand of the “interviewee”, like R&S suggested, is the way to go. After all, this is an interview, and that…
Etiquette for asking a woman how to best bring her to orgasm
in Women Talk ·
@GGMM- I agree with you. Focusing on the many pleasures a woman can feel, without any pressure or expectations for an “end goal” brings much more feedback and a fun exploration. And if an orgasm (or many ones) cum, then all the better! ;)…
Etiquette for asking a woman how to best bring her to orgasm
in Women Talk ·
Hi ladies! What is the best etiquette a partner should use to ask you how to best pleasure you, or perhaps more explicitly, how to best bring you to glorious orgasm(s)? Luke first posed this question to the men for how they ask, but ladies…
Etiquette for asking if she has the ability to orgasm
in Men Talk ·
Thanks everyone for your great feedback!. We see there’s a general consensus and also agree that it is best to focus initial questions on “how a woman likes to be pleasured”, vs focusing on an end goal of orgasm, which many women struggle…
Looking to improve my profile
in Better Profiles ·
@Revved- so sorry to hear about your house! Hopefully you’ll have many great new beginnings and sexy adventures ahead!! ;)
Etiquette for asking if she has the ability to orgasm
in Men Talk ·
Perhaps I should post this same question outside of men’s talk and see how the lovely ladies answer.
Looking to improve my profile
in Better Profiles ·
Everyone’s comments below are great, but I’d thought I’d mention a couple of extra things that stand out to me (Kira). Your last cert was from 2016, which many will wonder about- did you take a break for a while? Also, you show that you sm…
Etiquette for asking if she has the ability to orgasm
in Men Talk ·
What do you guys feel about asking if a woman can orgasm before you play? I know some women can’t but I find it’s nice to know, especially if she shares if she can and the best position to reach it.
Oral - With or without fingers?
in Women Talk ·
I really like both at the same time, and I find that a good lover will read my cues well and know how much pressure, or how long to give this stimulation. We’ve also found that women can vary quite widely in their sensitivity and preferenc…
Age preferences
in Finding Playmates ·
We also completely agree to reach out and be upfront about understanding their preferences, but perhaps they may happily consider you an exception! For us, our age range is more a general preference, versus a “hard limit”. And some people…
Pet peeves
in Women Talk ·
@Esperanza Your pet peeve is felt by many hi women, because labels don’t always clearly define people (perhaps labels are my pet peeve?). “Bi -Curious” for many is simply an open acceptance (or comfort) of play between both men and women.…
Describe the person above you in one word
in Games ·
Italian-Stallion
Tweaking the verbiage
in Better Profiles ·
“Clothed photos signal how you'll show up for that first meeting”. I agree with this, and can also add that clothed pics show more of a guy’s overall style. It’s hard to tell if a guy is, say, a “biker dude”, or a business executive (or pe…
Tweaking the verbiage
in Better Profiles ·
I think you have a decent start with your profile, but agree you should remove bathroom selfies and the “Sydney” paragraphs. But if you do look the way you do, please, for god’s sake, do NOT put your clothes back on. Just watch the backgro…
double standard
in Women Talk ·
First, welcome to the forums! What you describe is very common for new couples, and the more you talk about your fantasies, the more you will likely evolve. It already sounds like you have a solid relationship, so just keep talking. Listen…
Profile Feedback and Improvements
in Better Profiles ·
@GGMM- I kinda like the oiled torso with a bow tie look! What would make it better, though, is to also see a “before” shot with him in a tux! ;) Seriously, though, I always prefer seeing photos of guys smiling- you seem very approachable a…
Hot husband seeking helpful advice!?
@TallMark: I completely understand how tough it must be for single guys, but do know that many couples do not seek out SM, nor want them contacting them. It is always best to represent yourself exactly who you are and what you are seeking.…
Hot husband seeking helpful advice!?
Welcome to the forums, and the LS. After reading your profile, I think you may have more success by listing as a single male, changing your profile name to “PlaytimeforME” (or something more accurate) and just simply explain that you are m…
Is it wrong that we don't want to know you too personally before you make love to my wife?
in Getting Started ·
@ApsaraFan I’m so sorry you have to defend your relationship and wife to someone that doesn’t deserve 2 seconds of your time. Please know that most people in the lifestyle are friendly and accepting of people and their individual fantasies…
Threesome
in 3-Some ·
Count us in as a 5%er! Maybe this number is now closer to 10%? ;) We have found we enjoy couple play and SM play the best. Neither one of us is into FF only play (whether participating or watching), but put me in a tangle of sexy bodies on…
Texting with our threesome partner
in Women Talk ·
I agree with the others that your sexting has gone too far, since your husband no longer supports it. It can be fun and erotic to enjoy sexy chats with a third, but I have found this to work best when your chats include your husband (such…
Where their man cums with another woman
in Women Talk ·
So very tempting! ;)
How to cope with an average dick?
in Swinger Advice ·
OP: A particular sized cock will not make a woman orgasm, it is how you use it that will. Hell, even a cock that isn’t “cooperating” (aka “not getting/staying hard”) is still attached to a man who can make a woman scream in pleasure by man…
Where their man cums with another woman
in Women Talk ·
Luke always asks the woman he’s with, what is her preference, out of respect for her desires and boundaries. For me, I’m always super turned on watching him cum with another woman, and love knowing how much pleasure he is experiencing. ~Ki…
Do we look to old?
in Better Profiles ·
OP: you guys look great, but do agree that your profile needs more substance to attract couples who not only seek play partners but also other like-minded couples who can add that extra spark! And we’ve learned that age is just a number, y…
Watching
in Soft Swinger ·
@currentrider, So glad you noticed and liked what you saw! We have been enjoying letting our pics speak for themselves. But boy, I do hope I still look like this by then!! ;) ~Kira
Watching
in Soft Swinger ·
One of our most erotic and favorite experiences was playing just with each other at a club, surrounded by a crowd of people watching and/or playing next to us. The sexual energies in that room was super intense!! ~Kira
How to tell when a woman is interested?
in Women Talk ·
I think a road trip south is needed, especially after a looong winter up in the north here!! ;) Moonwater, I am sure you will find some great couples, it just may take a lot of patience and steady persistence. There’s a lot of great networ…
How to tell when a woman is interested?
in Women Talk ·
One thing I have found in the LS, is that women are more hesitant (or slower to move forward) than their partner, and thus essentially control how fast (or slow) they will move as a couple. (I’m more the instigator, though). I would sugges…
Vs
in Games ·
New, great hotel every night. “Variety is the spice of life”, as we often like to say!! ;) Cozy, private mountain retreat or high rise hotel on the beach?
Is there a story behind your online name?
in Open Forum ·
@Rabbit- that’s a fantastic idea! We have never been to your sexy, fun town, and it is certainly on our list to visit one day! And I’m sure it would generate some super steamy stories, both on and off the page! ;) ~Kira
Is there a story behind your online name?
in Open Forum ·
We are a bit unusual that I, Kira, brought up swinging to Luke some years ago. Luke, being utterly aroused by his kinky wife, decided to write me an enticing story of fictitious friends, named “Luke and Kira”, who essentially started us on…
Here's one reason why
Sorillo, you can perv me anytime! ;) And I did want to add a tip for writing in notes and copying over, since I also do that at times. After copying and pasting, copy just a few words to clear your sexy words from your clipboard. You don’t…
Here's one reason why
I also agree with Naturallovers. I, Kira, do all of the vetting of single guys, since I know best which guy turns me on. And Hunter, your profile is just fine the way it is: it shows an interesting person, and for me (and many other women…
Soft Swap is Dying
in Soft Swinger ·
Offradar: the beauty of this lifestyle is the freedom to explore your sexuality in an open, fun environment, at your own pace. Every person and:/or relationship is unique, and you shouldn’t feel like there is any right way. For us, we dive…
Watch,VS Parallel Play, VS Soft swap,VS full swap?
in Soft Swinger ·
Yes_no: “parallel play” is where you play with your partner right next to another couple who are only playing with one another. There is no touching between the two couples. Essentially you have the excitement of voyerism and exhibitionism…
How's the Weather Out There
in Open Forum ·
It’s been snowing for hours now- expected to get up to two feet! Time to go cuddle with my man and stay warm!! ~Kira
Double penetration
in 3-Some ·
I couldn’t agree more!! ;) ~Kira
FMF: Why so hard to arrange?
in 3-Some ·
I agree with 888 that the male half of couples almost always handles most communication. I, Kira, was the one to do most vetting when we first started, since I enjoy that, until we realized how lopsided it was, and how often the female was…
FMF: Why so hard to arrange?
in 3-Some ·
PAGent: you are too kind. ;) Same to you my friend. April- I have several kinds of sugar here- variety is the spice of life! ;) Seriously, send me the bird and we’ll meet for coffee! :) ~Kira
Name game with a TWist
in Games ·
Quentin Tarantino
FMF: Why so hard to arrange?
in 3-Some ·
Welcome to the forums April73! And so nice to see we’re from the same area! ;)
What's your WOD (workout of the day)
in Fitness ·
Hit the slopes for 5 hours snowboarding yesterday, but then just yoga today for stretching sore muscles I forgot I had!! ~Kira
Lying single men, goodbye
in Women Talk ·
I am sorry so many women can’t find good single men out there, since we have had fairly good success (and there are really great ones out there). I’m thinking it may have to do with one’s vetting process. If you can find a way to ensure th…
Double penetration
in 3-Some ·
Thanks for the warm welcome! :) I must say that DP/DVP involves good teamwork, and my years of yoga also greatly helped!! ;) I may have to first try the vibrator for dvp....
Double penetration
in 3-Some ·
What better place to jump into the forums than my favorite topic! I love DP- it is so erotic! DVP....still need to work on that more! ~Kira