Kik

Damn, you guys are tough on Wayne.
I mean, I'm enjoying somebody else getting yelled at instead of me for a change. But this site isn't that bad.
I just check for messages when I am online because I know I seldom get the bird. And when I do get the bird it is usually only after I open my messages.
As for not being able to rely on SLS if you are trying to find someone you are meeting, I would never rely on any site's messaging for that. Few can be relied on for fast messaging.
I would always excange cell numbers before we meet. You can get a burner phone or use one of those services that gives you a number and forwards it to your phone, if you do not want to give out your number.

"With that being said, we are working on new systems."

LOL.

We have heard that before...

Hell, I'd be OK with just an audible notification in addition to the red new message indicator when I was logged in. One thing that gets in the way of that though is that there's polling logic to kill inactive sessions.

In a way, I do kind of like that session killer because I sometimes forget to log off and people messaging me think that I'm actually there and online. It likely does help free up resources that makes the overall system run better as well.

Wayne,

It seems what they really want are real time notifications in their notification bar on their phone. They want to not have to be staring at their phone, logged into the site to see if they received a message. They want their phone to vibrate or make a noise so they know about the message.

The notification may pop up on the website instantly but that doesn't fulfill what I'll call the 'offline" notification requirement.

Seems you should be able to do that within the app. I have plenty of apps that do exactly that.

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=31805590">travelers122227</a>,</p>

<p>But it is real-time. I keep telling all of you that. Here is what I just did:</p>

<p>I logged into the site on my phone with one profile and put my phone in my lap with the site showing the homepage.</p>

<p>With another profile on my destop, I sent this message: "We are here now".</p>

<p>INSTANTANEOUSLY, the bird started flying and I saw a red circle with the number "1' in it, letting me know I had a new, unread message.</p>

<p>In that specific situation it would be easy enough to be logged in and glance at the phone every once in a while. </p>

Wayne you are missing the point of where this thread has drifted sir.

I'm talking about (as are others) about real time messages when meeting people. Not asking for "airfare to fly to you next month". Yes that latter can be easily done here, but that is not real time messaging like the "we are here now" and "we are too, in third booth on the right" type of messaging.

Your point is valid, but also validates the other conversation about this messaging system not being useful in a lot of ways also. Both can be true.

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">And what exactly will SLS do if "bad things" happen that were instigated through SLS channels? The only tool they have is a member ban, and that is IF they can determine who is right after the "he said / she said" argument settles out from the meeting that went bad."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">We will have direct proof that we can see and immediately get rid of that profile. If you keep your conversation here, we can see them asking you to wire them $50 for gas money. We can see them asking you for $500 to keep silent because they found out you were here without your wife knowing. We can see them requesting airfare so they can fly across the country to meet you.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">If you meet them here and go talk eslewhere, we have nothing and they can keep doing it to people over and over.</span></p>

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">It just goes without saying that if bad things happen outside of SLS channels, there isn't much they can do about it is all. It's not like people don't know and accept the risks when they go to a non-SLS communication channel though."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Not sure if you are being sarcastic? People truely do not know. They are naive or lacking in knowledge. They don't accept the risk. They meet them here, get scammed somewhere else and come back and blame us and expect us to do something about what happened on KIK or reimburse them for whatever it is they lost. </span></p>

Since the discussion has been talking about Messages, we received the following updates within a monthly members newsletter from another swinger site we are on. We're not suggesting that these be implemented here. Just showing how other sites handle the messaging feature for communication amongst its members.

Our (deleted) messenger has quite a few interesting features that you may not have discovered yet. We hope these tips improve your experience:

First, let’s talk about the icons along the top of the Messenger, starting from left to right.

Color Scheme
The sunshine icon allows you to change from dark to light depending on your preference.

Templates
The T icon allows you to create templates of common answers to questions from members or an introduction message that you enjoy sending to members that interest you, for example. You can create many templates and insert them into the conversation using the T icon to the right of the white message box instead of typing.

Folders
The folder icon allows you to organize your messages to keep your Messenger conversations manageable, and this also allows you to save messages for a longer period of time.

Search
The magnifying glass gives you the option to search by a member name you have been corresponding with.

Multi-delete
The check icon lets you select multiple messages and delete them all at once.

3 dots
In this case, the 3 dots icon gives you a sort function for your messages.

Now for the 3 dots menu to the right of the message:

Pin
Move an important message so it remains at the top of your messages; you can also unpin the message when needed.

Unread
Mark a message that you want your wife to read, for example, so she sees it is new.

Mute
This is helpful in a group messenger situation when you don’t want to be notified of every response.

Archive
Use this if you don’t want to lose the conversation you were having, but you would like to remove the message from your list.

Move to folder
Use this action to move messages into the folder category you created.

We hope this helps, and do let us know if you have further questions about our Messenger function

And what exactly will SLS do if "bad things" happen that were instigated through SLS channels? The only tool they have is a member ban, and that is IF they can determine who is right after the "he said / she said" argument settles out from the meeting that went bad.

It just goes without saying that if bad things happen outside of SLS channels, there isn't much they can do about it is all. It's not like people don't know and accept the risks when they go to a non-SLS communication channel though.

BTW - I see what you did there irishrose22. Clever.

:thumbs up emoji:

^^^^ excellent post ^^^^

I’m not sure why SLS wants to fight this battle. We use our messaging apps in a way that’s similar to NewandNaughty. The apps need to be very quick and very fluid, with pics, voice, video, text, emojis, gifs all being part of the communication process.
SLS can not, and will never be able to compete in that space. No one wants to launch a browser, navigate to a site, enter a password, open a messages page, just to find a message, all while waiting between each step as the site refreshes.
Oh, and by the way, there is no encryption, so there is no real privacy on the site. SLS can read all “private” messages.

SLS does some things reasonable well, such as creating what feels like a community (dysfunctional as it may be). They should stick to that, and stop pretending that they can replace a real messaging app.

SLS messaging is fine when both people are on and actively looking for a message. When that happens you can have a back and forth conversation.

I've never used KIK, but my understanding is that it's more like cell phone communications meaning that neither party needs to be actively looking for a message/text. They're notified when they receive a new one.

SLS could get closer to this if there was some sort of audible new message notification, but then the inactivity timer will end the session if someone isn't active on the site.

We get that sls is funky. It's part of its quirky charm, like us. But despite sls's 1990s features, sls has been more successful for us than any other method for meeting real people. From parties, to travel, to hot dates, to planned meets with others, sls has been great for us.

Wayne,

It’s not an issue worth voicing a complaint over, but we do not always get the instant message notification when we are on the site.

Many times I scroll to the top just before signing off, and there’s no notification. I’ll click on messages, and then I see a new message and the notification appears. There are times we’re on the site, and we’ll see a notification. So it isn’t always like this. But it happens enough to where we check for Messages before leaving.

It’s become a habit to check before logging out, so it’s not a real pain. But it’s definitely not instant either.

Wayne, I get that this site pays your bills and you don’t want to bite the hand, however, this just isn’t the hill to take a stand on. This site offers plenty of great stuff, like everything else in life, it isn’t perfect. Messaging is not great here compared to other options. We meet another couple on SLS, send a couple messages and decide we’re gonna meet. We’re at the restaurant and they message us, “we just pulled into the lot, where are you sitting?” We’re in a booth by the band, here’s a selfie, can’t miss us. Can we describe what we’re wearing? Yes. 3rd booth in, next to the coat rack? Yes. Selfie a thousand times easier? Yes. Send that pic on Saturday night to be approved and our guests would get it Monday.

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">I&rsquo;d see it 36 hours sooner than I&rsquo;d see it on this site."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">ALL pictures are now processed multiple times per day by staff members. The large majority of pictures are processed and approved by the Unlimited members within a few minutes. No picture should take more than 24 hours and that should be very, very rare. We have to review pictures. One picture of illegal activity could get the site shut down! </span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">We have also heard feedback from plenty of members that they are happy that we protect them from gross or illegal content. </span></p>

“ Well now you are talking about pictures and not just messages. Do those other sites review and filter pictures at all? If not, what if someone sends you a picture of them pooping in someone else's mouth or send a picture of a dead dog?”

I’d see it 36 hours sooner than I’d see it on this site. It’s not about what’s in the picture (it’s not like this site is Christian’s mingle or J date) it’s about speed and efficiency. If the pic is them shitting in a dead dogs mouth I’ll block them. If they’re not allowed to send that pic because somebody decided it’s to gross to send in a message, now I have to take my chances with that freak show when we meet. I’d rather see the pic before I’m sitting across the table from that person.

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=62423548">New_and_Naughty</a>,</p>

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Or I could just use one of the hundreds of alternative messaging options and you&rsquo;d see the pup instantly."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Well now you are talking about pictures and not just messages. Do those other sites review and filter pictures at all? If not, what if someone sends you a picture of them pooping in someone else's mouth or send a picture of a dead dog? </span></p>

“ Private messages do not go through any approval. They are instant. They are as fast as any other system you would use.

The chat room if you use it is instant”

I just tried to send you a picture of my dog. It didn’t let me because I have to wait for the picture of Sir-Barks-Alot to be approved. I’ll try again the “instant” the pic is approved. Or I could just use one of the hundreds of alternative messaging options and you’d see the pup instantly.

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=62423548">New_and_Naughty</a>,</p>

<p>Private messages do not go through any approval. They are instant. They are as fast as any other system you would use. </p>

<p>The chat room if you use it is instant.</p>

<p>Hot Dates are instant. As soon as you submit it they go live for everyone to see.</p>

<p>Forum posts are instant. As soon as you post, everyone can see it.</p>

If both give the same result, way faster is way better.

I’m sorry I have to cancel for this weekend.
Oh no, what happened?
My dog got stung by a bee.
Poor puppy!
Face blew up like a balloon. Would you like to see a picture?
I sure would.
Ok, I have to submit it for approval and hope that it gets approved. If so, I’ll talk to you in 36 hours or so.

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">"Comparing messaging on this site to text or messaging apps is like comparing dial-up to high speed fiber optics. They both &ldquo;work&rdquo;, one just works way better."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Which one works way better? I've used both and they worked equally as well. One is faster, but that has nothing to do with the concept of "working". </span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">With 100% certainty I could use the message system on this site to meet others without any hinderance.</span></p>