Disappointing 3-somes??

I don't understand why the cost of Viagra exploded after the release of generic brands for much less, Go figure...

mayhem8

Where do you get yours, IM me if you can.

"Meds cost me $600 for 10."

I'm not sure if you're referring to Viagra, but you can get generic Viagra these days for under $1/pill, I only need half of one, so it's super cheap.

Viagra is not for everyone though. Some have side effects (like headaches) and for some it just plain doesn't work for them.

RusticMagic

Many women can do this and it's all over the internet. It takes patience and practice and going slow. I like to touch a woman for at min half an hour best for an hour. For me, it's all about a woman's pleasure and only once in a while for me. Meds cost me $600 for 10.

Mrs Smith can orgasm from just nipple play. We've found that to be a good segue to getting totally nekkid when we have a 3-some.

A woman can have an orgasm without touching her genitalia

My wife can. She has had numerous orgasms over the years while giving me a BJ. Sometimes they are very explosive. Horny girl!

"Just because my dick works only sometimes should I be banned?"

No, of course not. However, couples looking for an MFM threesome are looking for a second (hard) cock. Since that's only a sometimes thing for you, unless you're willing and able to use artificial aids like Viagra, it would be an error to pursue couples. No strings attached sex is still available if you find the right women.

I had a playmate for a while (and would still have him except he jettisoned 10 months of perfection in an instant) who could rarely maintain an erection while wearing a condom. So he made it all about me, something he was really, really good at. If he had been the only person I was having sex with, that wouldn't have worked. Nor would I have thought of him for MFMs. But it was great while it lasted. I'm probably not the only person who that would have worked for, either, although I do wonder if part of the reason I was unbothered is that I have a lot of experience playing solo with women.

steve_vme really how does this magical orgasm without touching the genitalia occur? If you have found a way to make women cum in such a manner why are you here announcing you bring toys just in case? BTW no one is saying you should be banned however we are saying you have no clue as to what the female half of a couple wants in regards to adding a single male. It sure is not hours of playing with her nipple and nerd talk you mentioned on another post. You might want to think about what we are saying and do something about it versus defending a lost cause.

steve, my best guess is that people are suggesting you should get familiar with viagra or a similar product, so that you will be fully functional. Not maybe.

If you picked a girl up for a date, with a car that MIGHT get her back home, it's less likely she'll go out with you again?

If your debit card MIGHT be good, you could be in for a long night.

"My point is learning how to give a woman the best orgasm as possible. There are many ways to turn a woman on. If all she wants is another dick thats fine. A woman can have an orgasm without touching her genitalia. These are the things I try to learn. Just because my dick works only sometimes should I be banned?"

"There are more ways to please a woman, how do bi women feel about it?"

Hi. I'm bi. Real quick, if I'm with a woman, it's because I want a woman. A man, I want to be fucked.

My suggestion is to be very upfront with the women/couples you are trying to meet. I would pass on meeting someone like you. Honestly, you may have better luck contacting soft swap couples since they're not looking for PIV sex.

"A woman can have an orgasm without touching her genitalia."

How many women do you personally know who can orgasm without touching their genitals? Have you successfully gotten anyone off by not touching their genitals? For me this wouldn't work. Playing with a nipple for an extended amount of time without any other touching annoys me.

I'm going to say that most women who are part of a full swap couple want to be fucked. Even if they are bi and have been playing with another woman. And "something hard going in..." isn't the same as a man fucking me.

RusticMagic

And yet you do not see my point of view. My point is learning how to give a woman the best orgasm as possible. There are many ways to turn a woman on. If all she wants is another dick thats fine. A woman can have an orgasm without touching her genitalia. These are the things I try to learn. Just because my dick works only sometimes should I be banned?

Rustic, AGREED.

When most guys cum (however that happens), they are sated. When women cum, many just want more.

Women may cum from oral or toys, but I can't think of any women that would rather be well licked/toyed versus well fucked. Even the best guys have an off day, so it's never a bad thing to want to please a woman any way that you're capable of, but if it becomes a regular thing then you'll likely not get asked back.

steve_vme you seriously miss the point. In the end it all boils down to the fact that adding in another male is simply done to add a hard dick attached to him. If the guy cannot perform then he pretty much is useless. Now that does not mean it is all about his dick either but it would be a lot easier to just go get your own toys than the process of finding another guy. You have also suggested he can do other things just like adding in a female but if that is all someone wanted why would anyone bother with adding in a male in the first place? Yes I know I am being harsh but the fact is you are likely to be hit hard with reality when you show up with toys because you cannot perform. BTW I know several women who to varying degrees need more than just being licked to cum and a toy just is not the same as being fucked properly to them.

As much as I love our toy collection, I just don’t care to play with someone else’s sex toys....it’s a matter of hygiene, and having been lied to about that very thing in the long long ago past. However, when a playmate’s dick has dwindled during couples play and after what I consider a proper blowjob doesn’t resurrect the erection, I’m usually happy to give him the opportunity to demonstrate his pussy eating skills cause I will have dick from my own partner when we leave.

Ms U

AndrewRobin

As for what I lack I learn to be more than just a fucking partner. Everyone is a human being first everything else is secondary. There are more ways to please a woman, how do bi women feel about it? Or is this just a bias of yours. Its ok for women to lick and play but not for men? From what I have read so far is that women do a better job than men. So at least I try and learn other ways to please. At times I can perform so why should look for other men than I when women can do it better. Its not all about sex for me but the human touch. You are bi, do you need a women to bring a dick along.

Sometimes a guy expects real boobs as well....

We’ve all had “disappointing” Toys are for sharing after you have mutually established what and how To Use!

"Would women get mad if I used sex toys rather getting hard."

Gosh, I don't know. I'll just consult the universal operator's manual for standard issue women. Hmmmm....in the FAQ section it says YES. Women do in fact get mad if they were expecting a real penis...but wait, there's a footnote for something in the index so.... Sorry. I can't help you with that question.

Good point, that I did not think of. If I want toys, we have plenty to play with during our alone time. Some of the other comments are cold.

Wife here. If I want to play with toys, it will be with the girls.

If I want a man, I also want his hard cock, no toys wanted.

So if SM can't perform, better bring another SM, the first one can work the camera.

Really, toys are a terrible idea to show up with because you cannot get it up. If you do bring toys you should discuss it first and most often let the couple bring their own. Hygiene with toys is something that may not come up in the discussion, but is a huge factor. Strangely enough some people clean themselves better than they do their toys. It's like a guy going around a play room without changing his condemn.

If you cannot get it up or keep it up then look toward medical options or just don't waste people's time including your own. You really need to keep in mind that many don't have a lot of free time and don't want that once every 2 month opportunity to be a disapointment.

that7girl that depends on what you mean "alone time". While I'm sure the SM being alone with the wife (husband not in the room) would help in that situation there are many couples where this would never be allowed to happen (we are among them as we said in the other thread mentioned). Now if by "alone time" you mean the husband is in the room but allowing the SM to have some MF time with his wife before he joins in then yeah that happens frequently. The thing is for most couples inviting a single anyone to join them is adding an extra not substituting.

steve_vme if the meeting was for sex no toy play planned then most likely yes it would be a problem. That said there are some people looking for just toy play and not actual intercourse but I imagine they are few and far between.

I sometimes have trouble getting hard. I have bought sex toys so something hard is going in. Would women get mad if I used sex toys rather getting hard.