about done with single males

@sorillo and Batman: wiggling eyebrows

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~lady~

My last post was horribly written. Trying to type a detailed forum post on your phone, is a bad idea lol

I do apologize. You may continue with the intellectual conversation.

HV

You have never been to a real swing party or been part of a swingers group that gets together for sex. Its just not realistic for couples to split up at a party and fuck until they drop and then getting back together at the end of the night not to be a secure happy couple.

I have seen many couples trying to save their marriage with swinging which never works.

"When you get an email from a single male who is going to be in town and wants to pleasure you, would it be okay to ask him if he knows the peacock dance?"

I'll admit I don't know the peacock dance, but I can wiggle a puppet like nobody's business. >:)

"NEVER does the fear of someone stealing your wife enter into swinging. Only secure happy couples are swingers. Those couples that try swinging to save a marriage get divorced anyway.
Swingers never worry about measuring up. Swingers are always very happy that their other half is being well taken care of and is having a good time."

One of my nearly foolproof ways of knowing someone is full of shit is that they toss words like "always" and "never" around. The more frequently those words appear in someone's conversation, the less likely they know what they're talking about/

We're humans before we're swingers and subject to all the frailties that come along with that. One aspect of being human that shows up is that some men are insecure and in their secret hearts fear they don't measure up and don't deserve good things. Some of those men will also be swingers.

Yeah, I'm making a leap tying that particular type of insecurity to those male halves of couples who want nothing to do with single males and further insist they aren't swingers and/or ruined swinging, but it's not a very large leap. Usually the simplest explanations are the most likely, after all.

So, my working assumption is that couples who limit their swinging to swaps and single women have male halves who are insecure. That's one of my red flags and the primary reason I don't play with those couples.

When you get an email from a single male who is going to be in town and wants to pleasure you, would it be okay to ask him if he knows the peacock dance?
Asking for a friend.....

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~lady~

"Should all couples believe as Ncal does?" -- HV

'all couples' should really be 'anyone' -- Absolutely not.

WOW Msmolly you are so full of it. NEVER does the fear of someone stealing your wife enter into swinging. Only secure happy couples are swingers.
Those couples that try swinging to save a marriage get divorced anyway.

Swingers never worry about measuring up. Swingers are always very happy that their other half is being well taken care of and is having a good time.

goodgolly

I recently had conversations with a few wives and they all seem to say the same thing. They strongly that their husbands fear them leaving them for another. They agreed that sex with their husbands is one thing but sexy with their plsymates, is totally different.

I’m not classifying all wives in this category. I’m just saying that their are wives who enjoy the ls to fill areas that are lagging in their marriages

These women all have possessive husbands who are not big on their wives playing with other guys. However the husbands let/allow/concede in letting the wives play with other men, in hopes of keeping the wife in the LS. To keep their husbands happy they continue in the LS, but only do thst they can keep getting what they desire.

So goodgolly, I can see you your explanation being valid. Not many couples have both parties in the LS in it for the same reasons. Some do it because they love, so do it to find intimacy, and others may do it personal motives.

If jealousy is an issue, you probably shouldn’t be doing this

"ITS FUN !!! to make women cum!!"

We're in agreement there. I just don't think you know how to do it.

HungVet, over the past 15 or so years I've heard this from fewer than10% of couples, or more specifically from male halves of couples. I have always suspected it comes from insecurity and an unexamined fear that they don't measure up to the competition. At least other men won't steal your woman, because they have one already, you know?

To those married men or couples who may be following along in this conversation:

Does Ncal represent your views of single men as being the detriment of swinging?

Do Ncals beliefs reflect your ideas of single men and their participation in this way of life?

If so explain. If not explain.

Should all couples believe as Ncal does?

Does he accurately represent you and how you go about playing with others?

HV

HUH?? Almost every woman i have had sex with likes the man on top if he knows what he is doing. The woman gets to relax and enjoy herself.
Second favorite position is sideways with my finger on her clit.

Toss up with the next favorite position are on top of me or doggie. On top the women like it for a few minutes after i fold up a pillow and put it under my ass so they can maximum penetration, but they have to do the work so they dont last to long. As few are athletic enough to really get into being on top but not many.

As far as supporting my weight on my elbows and knees, I am very strong as i workout with heavy weights so this is no effort for me.

The effects on movement and the clit is effective in women who are not fat. Fat women are much harder to being to orgasm so i try to stay away form them.

ITS FUN !!! to make women cum!!

You know, if the prophecy requires him to talk out of his ass, it can just go bury itself in a sewage reclamation pond until it comes up with a better delivery system than ncal.

Oh, ncal, hey, lucky you, I have a stronger stomach this morning and can actually contemplate ome of your weirder pronouncements about sex.

"Please don't tell me how to fuck a woman..."

I wouldn't dream of telling you how to fuck a woman. I'm just going to tell you that you're doing it wrong.

It doesn't necessarily follow that because you don't know what you're doing (and, ncal, you clearly don't) that you're always bad in bed, because the whole stopped clock thing is a legitimate phenomenon and you might have met some women for whom your weird techniques worked. Because, once again, women don't all like the same things.
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"Third as she builds toward orgasm I rotate my hips thrusting in a circular manner which intensifies her orgasm."

Jesus. Did you read this in Penthouse Forum in the 80s? Because, no. It's not only anatomically wrong (the G-spot, internal portion of the clitoris, and the A-spot are all anterior and a circular motion means you'd mostly miss them), it is also clueless about the orgasmic arc of most women, where the wise thing to do once a woman starts to orgasm is to NOT CHANGE A FUCKING THING.

"Another thing is I don't put the weight of my body onto hers, I support my weight on my elbows so she has the freedom to move with my thrusts."

So, always missionary. Not a surprise. Well, either you have unusually long upper arms or you're unconcerned with stimulating a woman's clit during PIV, because you can't in that position if you have a normal body, plus there isn't much room for a woman to actually move. Also, not much room for thrust, so you can't do much either.

Again, not all women can come from penetration (no, really, they can't and it's not generally because someone is doing something wrong), but I find it tough to believe that anyone can come with your technique. But, hey, again, women are different and anything is possible.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPHESY

BT

Its so sad that no one knows or cares enough about how to bring sexual pleasure to their partner anymore. Everyone is so selfish and into themselves, but I guess that is why you are all single.

Would the rhyming vagina post in the Favorite Song Lyrics thread or maybe the Limericks thread?

...Would it speak with an accent?

BT

It could give new meaning to speaking in tongues...

So, there you have it.

The Peacock Dance is all about me gyrating my hips with a rhyming vagina.

I've had this wrong from the start.

Er. You don't actually have to have... You know what? Never mind. This is like the interstitium, where you have so little knowledge of the human body that it's pointless to even try to explain basic concepts. But, yes, it's possible for women to have sex with women. You don't have to understand the mechanics or anything, just...oh, I don't know, accept that it's one of the facts of life they forgot to tell you about in that 1960 sex ed class you had in 6th grade.

"My favorite thing to do as a man when we meet another couple is to tell the woman how sexy she is or how nice she looks, when she says thanks but you must say that to all the women. I then say give me your hand and gently place it on my erection under the table and say a man cant lie, you caused this erection you are really that sexy.
The women just grin from ear to ear give my cock a squeeze a couple of times and then the conversation continues.

Actually, maybe a 1955 sex ed class. Dude, I am older than dirt and this shit was cheesy when I was in my 20s. The only way a woman is going to grin from ear to ear after that tired kind of line is if she's over 70 and hasn't been laid this century.

I thought about quoting the bit about the technique you say you use for PIV, but nausea overcame me, plus trying to figure out why on earth you think it would be effective made my head hurt. So, carry on with your (seriously clueless) bad self.

Every woman that I have vaginal sex with has an orgasm or two. Its so sad what sex has become. I can stay hard as long as the woman wants..first requirement.
Second I match whatever rhyme that she likes to fuck at. As slow or fast as she like.
Third as she builds toward orgasm I rotate my hips thrusting in a circular manner which intensifies her orgasm .

Please don't tell me how to fuck a woman, the absurdity of women not having vaginal orgasms is only because the man is that bad in bed.

Another thing is I don't put the weight of my body onto hers, I support my weight on my elbows so she has the freedom to move with my thrusts.

Its what a man does to impress a woman when he wants to get her in bed and is not in a hurry. My favorite thing to do as a man when we meet another couple is to tell the woman how sexy she is or how nice she looks, when she says thanks but you must say that to all the women. I then say give me your hand and gently place it on my erection under the table and say a man cant lie, you caused this erection you are really that sexy.

The women just grin from ear to ear give my cock a squeeze a couple of times and then the conversation continues.

Another thing I also say when I first put my cock in a woman's pussy is wow want a nice pussy you have, I do this as I slowly slide my cock into her pussy enjoying that experience.

Other compliments about how nice and sexy they look, holding doors open and so on. This is my way of doing the peacock dance other men have their ways but its always about making the woman feel like a goddess.

Msmolly you have had lots of sex with women? so you have a cock? HMMM

Ncal, I'd quote Ms. Molly's entire post so you could read it again but it would be pointless.

hear not here

Am I the only one who wants to here more about the Peacock Dance?

ncal: "Any man who is good in bed can bring a woman to orgasm with his cock in her pussy or with his cock in her pussy and his finger on her clit or with a vib in her pussy and his tongue on her clit." And: "...I listed three ways that a man can bring a woman to orgasm vaginally..."

Whelp. No, actually, you listed one way in which a man could bring a woman to a vaginal orgasm. The other two use clitoral stimulation, which, as fun as it is, does not lead to vaginal orgasms for most women, because the intensity of clit stimulation generally overrides the more subtle sensations of vaginal stimulation.

The first way, PIV sex, does not lead to any sort of orgasm for a lot of women, generally for anatomical reasons. There are a few reasons it does work for the women who can have orgasms solely from penetration, including positioning of the clit (the more posterior the better), the sensitivity of the interior portion of the clitoris, ability to orgasm from A-spot stimulation, a really good fit between vagina and whatever is penetrating the vagina, and G-spot stimulation.

A large part of the problem is that you don't seem to know that women aren't like sex dolls and actually have a great deal of variety in both anatomy and sexual response. At your age (66-72 is my guess), it's probably too late to acquire much of that knowledge in a practical sense, but it would be helpful if you could at least incorporate this into the soup that lives in your brain: Women are different. What works for one will not work for others.

I have had sex with a lot of women and not one of them is like any other. Each body is unique and what brings a woman to orgasm is a matter of reading and adapting to the differences.