Msmolly coming from a man who has puts up a woman's profile that's rich. The facts are the facts men who don't get regular sex pay big money to attend a lifestyle event with the expectations of getting laid.
What woman wants to attend such a event?
Rabbit n Scamp
That made more sense than all of Ncalcouple’s responses put together. Thank you for that
the Fokkers
Yea you’re right. I feel like I get even more stupid the more I try to debate Ncal. It’s like talking to a brick wall. Why you would ever talk to one is crazy to begin with, but the mere fact of continuing to do so is cause for you to be in insane asylum.
HV
Wow, that was like magic. Not that I'm not appreciative, but doesn't it make your head hurt to do that?
HungVet: "You made it a point to spew haberdashery for your sake."
I think that might have been a typo, but it's an accurate description of the crap he flings up on to forum posts. Also, the picture it made in my brain made me smile, some demented old man throwing ties and men's suiting.
Here's the thing about ncal, he doesn't swing. He might have for a while back in the 80s, and if he did it was a high point in his life, but it's been a lot of years since then. Now he's strutting around spewing 30+ year old anecdotes, with a profile photo of the same vintage, pretending he's still swinging. Arguing with him doesn't make him post more (he'd post if there was nobody to talk to, because this is a swingers website), but it does let him pretend he has something to add to the conversation, particularly when you talk to him as if he is making points you need to refute.
Essentially, you're fighting with someone in his late 60s-mid-70s who is working with a limited view of a limited slice of history and you're stroking his fantasy that he's still swinging. So, you might want to keep that in mind every time you legitimize his conversational bird droppings.
Hung its real simple single men (not all) treat women as pieces of meat. This is simply because they are not getting regular sex. Because of the way single men jump all over women at a swinger party or club women have stopped being swingers and swingers has died.
Married men who get regular sex treat women with respect and sex as something that is just fun to do.
This is the way its always been and why even in the days or Rome single men where not allowed to mix with the married couples at the baths.
But sex sells and the websites and party are selling sex to single men and are cashing in.
HungVet, it’s not worth the calories to try and compose a rebuttal to NCal. He doesn’t care and honestly dryer lint is more interesting and useful than that dimwit. We have decerned already that he probably throws out Mrs NCal as bait in an attempt to get laid.
Hmm, maybe SLS should erase his account and use the pretense of he is violating FOSTA with the way he seems to operate.
After years of reading nutcal and Allen posts, I’ve developed a knack for translation by adding punctuation, correcting misspellings and restructuring sentences. Let me take a crack at this last abomination.
"Hung how is wish all singles are out of the lifestyle or the lifestyle is removed from swinging completely and has a different website."
COULD be translated to read:
Hung, how I wish that all singles were out of the lifestyle, or that “the lifestyle” could be removed from what I define as swinging completely and that it had its own website, separate from SLS.
Yeah, it’s a gift and a curse.
~S~
Well Ncal, do you see your problem? You entered a forum that talked about single men. A group of people you choose not to associate with. You interjected your beliefs into a conversation that doesn’t suit your preference of play. Now you may retort by saying “this is a free country i can say what I please” or “ something along the lines of “im a paid member on this site and have access to forums just as much as the next person” or whatever. The point is, is that you CHOSE to join this discussion knowing that it didn’t fall in line with your beliefs. You continued to debate other members when it was clear that you were not adding any value to this discussion.
Like this site and many others, you can block singles and you easily join couples only groups. You don’t have to join in, in the forums if the conversation is about singles and their place in the lifestyle. However you made the decision. No one sought your information. You made it a point to spew haberdashery for your sake. You blame the sites and clubs for allowing singles but you take no responsibility for barging into territory that doesn’t concern you. You don’t play with singles. And you if you play with single females, your prejudice against single males. So a conversation about single males doesn’t concern.
Simply: How and who you and your wife sleep has no bearing on others. Your perception of your lifestyle activitiy is not a generalization for others.
It’s quite obvious that you speak on this matter just to get your rocks off. You have nothing intelligent to offer, and consistently prove that you’re stuck in your fantasy world. No one enticed or forced you to maintain this conversation. You literally have no need to be talking about a situation that you are not familiar with, because you don’t play with singles.
What’s the difference between a single male and single female when it comes to opposite attraction?
They both attract who they attract.
You come off as if married men are entitled to the cream of the crop in both wives and single ladies, but the wives can only choose from the buffet line of married husbands. How fair is that?
Are their needs and desires not as important as yours? You honestly believe that only a married man can please a woman? Well if that’s the case, any woman you slept with prior to you being married, should have been sleeping with a married man instead of you.
HV
Yet is would be so very nice if the lifestyle crowd and all their single men could have their own site and swingers our own.
sorry my typing sucks, i was splitting my day plumbing my house i have remolded and working on on some marketing. Its exhausting doing that.
But i have put in and plumbed three vanity sinks hardware on two really nice walk in showers and half of the kitchen sink. just need to hook up the disposal to the main out flow line. This house is going to be absolutely beautiful when its done.
You know, I'm dyslexic so word order is relatively unimportant, as is spelling, but that one baffled me too. The words are English, but the syntax isn't.
ncal: "I always thought that sex was about two more more people that want to being pleasure to their partner(s)"
Ding, ding, ding. You are entirely correct, ncal. And nobody here is saying anything else. I mean, yes, many of us have suggested you don't know how to do it, but all of us probably agree that sex is about bringing (which is the word I think you want) and receiving pleasure.
"Hung how is wish all singles are out of the lifestyle or the lifestyle is removed from swinging completely and has a different website."
Ncal, I'm sorry. Is that a question without a question mark or a statement? Well, either way, is there a chance someone could translate this into English? ...Is there an ESL instructor in the house? ...
BT
Me thinks that Mrs. Ncal would be quite lonely if she didn't have her peacock dancing SMs.
Hung how is wish all singles are out of the lifestyle or the lifestyle is removed from swinging completely and has a different website.
When no singles are allowed couples can start to have parties like in the old days, everyone just splits up and fucks their brains out and has a ball doing so.
Question for you all. Why have sex with another person if you are not going to satisfy them? I am lost here, are you saying you have sex with other people just to use them for your pleasure?
I always thought that sex was about two more more people that want to being pleasure to their partner(s)
Let’s do this:
Remove all singles from the lifestyle. If you get divorced you’re out and can’t play until you get married again. Wives cannot ask for multiple men experiences unless the men are married. Husbands cannot ask for multiple women experiences unless the women are married. No hall passes or permission to play alone, the spouse must be present and actively play. Wives nor husbands can play with singles. Deal?
Let’s see how ultra compatible these couples really are.
The benefit of playing with singles is that a couple can get what they want without having to deal with what they don’t. A couple is a packaged deal. An attractive wife and a limp dick husband, is a package. An overweight wife and a decently attractive husband is a packaged deal. Take it or leave it.
Couples who don’t like singles, tend to treat couples like separate entities especially when sexual ability, compatibility and/or attractiveness is lagging. One husband and another wife play while their spouses contemplate on how to take one for the team and fake the vibe. Which is pathetic!
With singles, a couple has the opportunity get what they want in separate entities with less issue. The wife wants a well endowed male, the husband wants a voluptuous female, they can’t find what they want in a couple but can pair up a male and female for a night for their pleasure. The wife has what she wants and the husband has his.
Singles are the X-factor.
HV
This train wreck is still going!! No survivors!
WTF! If you people don’t know the peacock dance, you ain’t swingin’ fo’ sho’!
And that’s in the prophecy in article 6 on page 113, paragraph 3.
Good thing I saw that one coming. :-D
~Allen
"...... Any man that thinks he knows everything about sex or women and always perfoms so good that every women was satisfied..... Is either a liar or an idiot."
I'm voting for both.
As to why provoke ncal, eh, why not. Somebody already wound him up long before he discovered the forum, he won't stop posting his weird fucking conspiracy theories no matter what, and if he doesn't have anyone specific to argue with, he drops his conversational dog turds in random threads, completely killing them.
For God sake why are you all provoking NUTBAG . . Well I guess it's my turn . Everyone is different , we are not all created equal. If we were then the world would not work. Some people like a party when everyone fucks everyone . Some like to just watch . It's all ok you just have to find the right people.... We like to have a SM join us , some don't . We are ok with that . Just do what you like and be happy . We all know Nutcal is a close minded , my way or your wrong kind of idiot. He is a know it all that always gets hard and has satisfied every women he's ever been with . NOT .... But it's ok . He is delusional. I would like to think I am a great lover or fuck but I have definitely had my off nights . What does that mean ? Well it could be the person I was with expected more or I was disappointed in my self . It's all ok , we live for another day or fuck ...... Any man that thinks he knows everything about sex or women and always perfoms so good that every women was satisfied..... Is either a liar or an idiot.
I started swinging in the eighties and after a few years of absolute fun everyone stopped because of the AIDS scam/scare around 1989. The private groups started up in the mid 90's after everyone realized that you could not get AIDS from vaginal sex or from tears or whatever lies the gtovemrent was pushing. Real honest studies where done on swingers and none had AIDS, even though no one used condoms and everyone was having sex with multi new partners all the time.
Swinging was hot and heavy until 2006 or so when SLS started adverting parties, The various groups started to slowly die out, with Jacks houseboat parties ended around 2012.
Those first few years at the Edgewater Hotel and Barry and Shells was beyond fun, free love and everyone was into skill and how to make the sex great for your partner.
I'm pretty sure the boat sailed on that one many a day ago.
Tramp
Sorillo has just opened up a can of WTF.
Either Ncal is a reincarnated version of a Sex Master from the 70s swingers scene or he’s full of shit!!!!
Any takers on which one he really is?
HV
Those of us who are 53 yrs old wouldn't know diddly about the LS in the 70s because we were in elementary school or Jr High. And as we all know, Jr High School boys don't know shit about seduction, being more like "Oh my God how big does this thing get? squirt "
Peacock dance was called seduction in the 70's. Its so simple, make the woman feel sexy, beautiful and special. Enjoy yourself doing this its really fun. Impossible to do for selfish people . Seduction or the Peacock dance is really fun to do and the women love it.
Only someone who has never been a swinger or been to a swing party calls swinging a high risk adventure. Everyone who really enjoys an open marriage calls swinging FUN and EXCITING
Pcbguy, always good to see you in here, but just for the sake of full disclosure, you know that the Peacock Dance is the creature of an allegedly married male, right?
Tramp
Apparently the peacock dance requires using lines from the 1970s playbook, so you're probably better off with the puppet.
ncal: "Its just not realistic for couples to split up at a party and fuck until they drop and then getting back together at the end of the night not to be a secure happy couple."
Oh, dear lord. It's like you don't know that people have feelings. I've made it clear that I don't believe you're currently a swinger and stuff like this is just more evidence that not only do you not swing, you have very little experience of swinging in your past.
Swinging is kind of a high risk activity and while some people sail through (I have a friend like this and his wife is just like him), most of us have areas of vulnerability that happen only when something is bouncing on the soft spots. The specific insecurity I was talking about wouldn't be triggered at parties that are couples only, because it's specifically about competition with an available male. Married men are fine, they have their own woman. Single men, though, they're the challenge.
So, a secure happy couple, but only within some rigid parameters. And that rigidity is in itself evidence of some vulnerability on the part of one or both partners.
HV, it happens to all of us. My phone quite frequently makes me sound like a non-native speaker and it would be embarrassing, except I'm so not alone. ;-)
Ya know, as a SM I'm about done with single males: a Peacock dance? Geeze!!
