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Read a bunch of articles on what Trump actually did with executive order.

Payroll tax holiday. Nope. Simply the employers don't have to send it in quarterly. It still has to be paid by the end of the year. My new employer already sent out a company wide email that they are going business as usual usual, still collecting and sending it in, because they don't want us to get hit with 6 months of back FICA in December.

$400 UI... well $300 from fed if the states chup in $100, but most states don't have the $100. Also, sure to be challenged in courts as the money was allocated to be spent by states on direct COVID costs(like opening an emergency field hospital), not secondarily economic effects like UI.

Foreclosure Moritorium: officials can "look at" continuing foreclosure moratorium for government held loans that was already in effect and already being looked at for extension.

My take is this... Dems told the White House, give us what we want, or no deal. Trump threatened to end-run congress. Dems called the bluff (or maybe the orange buffon is so ignorant he didn't know it was a bluff). Trump fired everything he had at an end-run, which was 2 nothings and one almost certainly not actually going to happen.

Today, White House officials are back at the table with Dems.

Dems hold all the cards since they are the only party in congress that can muster the votes (of 12 Reps go along with the White House in the senate).

Trump may not like that Dems have all the cards, but nothing is getting done until he accepts it.

(I said this same thing in March, but was proven wrong when Reps went along with $1T a month deficits.

I'm just sayin'

YMMV

Hooking up with wrong woman can be a killer...

There's 6 million ways to die....

NFL QB Steve McNair's side chick shot him in the chest as he slept on the couch.

Then shot herself.

My best friend did that.

Moved to the Philippines to live on his social security.

Lived like a king on $1,000 a month.

Right up until he was murdered by his Filipino wife and her new beau...

10 years ago in December.

If I can fit everything that I "need" and some of my wants into 3-4 footlockers and a backpack with a laptop/tablet, a few hard drives of family pics and music..... that would be the life.

PIck a West African, South American or SW Asian country and travel and enjoy the country every day for 2, 3 or 4 months, and move to the next. Knock out about 5-6 countries in a couple of yrs.

Who needs a brand new car or SUV? Garage full of snow blowers, lawn mowers, tools, junk? Basement and attic full of old clothes, kids's toys, books, unused stereo equip, DVDs and CDs?

Large scooter, train/bus pass, taxi fare, and tennis shoes. At most, a used car for bad weather or rent for road trips.

1-2 bedroom apartment..... 50" tv in living room, maybe a one in the master BR. Cable tv or WI-fi and Firestick..... minimal furniture..... and enjoy life.

Youtube "cheapest countries in Asia" or Africa or Central/South America. The ppl live GOOD on less than $1,200 US per month. You don't need to hit the ground with $50-100K in the bank. Just about $5-10k and few retirement dollars every 1st.

Every country has a retiree or Ex-pat community from the States, Canada, England and Europe if you need to speak English to Westerners. All the bars carry the sports via satellite of your favorite teams.

2028? Plan on the coast near La Paz myself. Not because of the money, but because as it turns out, this country has 30-40 million unapologetic hate-filled willfully ignorant assholes in it, and they won't rest until the country is as backwards as they are.

"Most of the big boys estimate 7-9"

Who wants to live thru two entire presidential terms of this mess?

Rent in the SF/Oakland area goes ballpark $2,800-5,000.

There's a point where you downsize and move out of state. Start over elsewhere with cheaper rent.
Houses and apartments are full of material stuff. Grab some clothes, family pics and records and ID's and start from scratch.

Struggle in Cali, or start over in AZ or NM?
Struggle in NY, or struggle in SC, GA, or somewhere cheaper?
Cost of living is far more difficult to maintain in Chicago than OKC or Memphis.

I'll be long gone by the 2028 election. Probably even be in the Pacific Island, South America or West Africa before the 2024 election.

$1,000 to $3,500 per month goes a long ways in the Philippines, Thailand, Ghana, Kenya, Argentina, Costa Rica, or Belize. Can always fly to see family 2-3 times a yr or vice versa.

I'm trying to think how pathetic my life would have to be where in my fifties, I would spend time on a forum and contribute absolutely nothing but attempts to annoy people that disagree with me... and I just can't picture it.

Also: if this forum had any moderation, blocking would not be necessary.

Lmfao

...so they will blame the Dems. When dems win the first thing is to kill the filibuster and neuter MoscowMitch and gop.

"We may need 2-4 yrs to recover financially."

Most of the big boys estimate 7-9.

In 2008/09, there was no pandemic threatening existing small and big business to stay closed or shut down for good. Bailouts and job creations helped things get going again.

Right now, every industry is suffering directly or indirectly, even sports and entertainment... which holds hands with travel, car rentals, hotels, restaurants, bars, clubs and building owners who lease space. The Mom n Pops are gonna feel it the most. These folks are gonna lose businesses, homes (equity), cars, life savings, tuition money, etc.

2021 is gonna be Super Ugly. The domino effect will be like a bad B-movie.

We may need 2-4 yrs to recover financially.

"I think most landlords will be willing to work with tenants beyond Sep 1."

Most landlords will be willing to work with tenants until the mortgage forbearances, and utilities grace periods end. Because somewhere in 1Q 2021, all of that is going to stop, and there are going to be millions with mortgages who did NOT get their jobs back, and owe thousands upon thousands on their mortgage, gas bill and power bills, and are going to get evicted. It's going to be 2008, but worse, because other debts are far worse -- car debt is far worse, HLOCs are far worse, et cetera.

Landlords will be able to raise rents 50-100%, at least temporarily -- but they won't be able to do so on existing renters in most states. So the willing to work with renters thing is going to run out, and hard.

"Frontline Doctors saying the pandemic is a scam, it is over, and we have treatments, so time for everyone to be back at work."

[GUFFAW] [Citation seriously fucking needed]

Dems asked for$600 but were blocked by GOP, the payroll holiday means no contributions to Medicare and SS ideal for the elimination of these programs if Trump gets reelected. That has been the republican wet dream for ever. He even just on TV he will make the "tax holiday" permanent. The EO does not bar the evictions actually.. Just suggested they be postponed.

I think most landlords will be willing to work with tenants beyond Sep 1.

Maybe til Nov 1st? Reduce rent a bit or a payment plan on the balance til the next stimulus or unemployment weekly bonus.

A bird in the hand is better than empty units.

Now the greedy mortgage lenders and non VA or Fed backed loans.... They might be holding the bag with houses that won't sell for awhile.

Erotica, Poor Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Bolsheviks, their low I Q minds are made up against anything Trump does.

So Trump threw out the first salvo.

His 'executive' orders.

$400 UI bumps.

Eviction moratorium

Payroll tax holiday.

Let's see - Congress controls the purse, so I don't think he can do the $400 to the UI.

Eviction moratorium - he can do federal, I don't think he can do non-federal housing.

Tax holiday - it's a deferment! He is giving people cash in the pocket today instead of collecting for taxes later. This means come April 15 a LOT of people will owe! ROFL! I don't think he can do that either unilaterally.

This is very very very dangerous. Just imagine a president saying, "Goodbye private healthcare, all healthcare is now government."

It's interesting.

I am not watching any conservatives say that Trump is over-reaching with these 'executive orders.' He has done two things recently that should be abhorrent to conservatives. He said that TikTok has to sell to Microsoft within 45 days. Then suggests that there be a commission paid for it! The second thing is the executive orders on UI, Payroll Tax, eviction, etc. While I laud the ideas, I don't want ONE person to have that much power. I don't think it will survive scrutiny.

Come November no matter who wins. Covid will certainly still be here but almost all restrictions will go away.

Virtually.all the schools in California are closed.

My community College district has 800 on campus enrollments out of 90,000 total.

Its going to be when thousands of people get evicted. That will happen before the election.

They won't be able to pass the bill fast enough then.

@TBR

Oh I can't wait for McConnell to let the senators go home for August. It's easy as fuck to be a 101 keyboard warrior. It's easy to sit in DC and make or not make legislation when your constituents are 1500 miles away.

They are gonna hear some shit. So you may be right, after recess something gets done.

What I think the gameplan is is for the Repubs to see what happens with the schools. I don't think we can see the economy get back to anything remotely normal until we see kids out of the house and back in school. Just like one person, Rudy Gobert, closed down the NBA, I think ONE kid, getting CV19 at school and dying will shut down the school system. And by school system, I am talking national! If a kid gets it in LA, it will close the schools in Georgia.

Give it a couple of weeks.

Sept. 1 will be critical. How would it look for thousands of people to be homeless...

The first vote happened with stocks off more than 30% from their recent peaks and government ordered lock downs in most states. I am not sure the votes would be there with stocks at current levels and Frontline Doctors saying the pandemic is a scam, it is over, and we have treatments, so time for everyone to be back at work.