Attacking the Green Cards

Birmingham, AL, Us

Huang became a citizen in 1973.

Musk was a Canadian citizen in 1989.

Both of those events predate the "offshoring of US tech and businesses of the 90's and 00's. Also predate the rise birth tourism, replacing US workers with H1B Visa holders, the never-ending "temporary" 18mo TPS granted for people fleeing disasters (2010 Haiti quake, 2001 El Salvador quake), and the WIDE OPEN border of Biden 2020-2024, it's a necessary correction.

sn1987aVeteran
Freeport, NY, Us

Just to help people to understand this, if this policy were in effect way back when, Elon Musk would have been affected and probably would have ended up on a totally different trajectory. Jensen Huang may not have founded NVIDIA. The list goes on and on....

I mean, if it isn't clear that the orange fat man is making the future america much worse, this new policy is another obvious nail in the coffin.

Windermere, FL, Us

Fewer intelligent people around has the beneficial (for them) side effect of raising their percentile ranking.

So first they'll make it very difficult to get green cards. Then they'll make it very difficult for existing green cards to renew.

Windermere, FL, Us

Fewer intelligent people around has the beneficial (for them) side effect of raising their percentile ranking.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

"The people who claim people here legally have nothing to worry about have obviously are people who have never had to be concerned about such things."

And many have been brainwashed by certain people/groups.

I was unaware of the changes to the process/introduction of the "catch 22" issues.

Yeah, lots of valuable, brilliant and talented people will be going elsewhere.

I think that every village idiot would be able to understand that and they're probably thinking that will make them appear much smarter because there will be fewer, much more intelligent people around.

Windermere, FL, Us

The "I always believed..." was not the beginning of the post as I wrote it. I either deleted it somehow or the site lost it.

Oh well.

The people who claim people here legally have nothing to worry about have obviously are people who have never had to be concerned about such things.

Stamford, CT, Us

Your experience was there before. I don’t see it now.

Windermere, FL, Us

It has come to my attention that only the 2nd half of my first post actually showed up.

The 2nd and 3rd posts are a CATO Institute article about the new decree.

Birmingham, AL, Us

"I love this country. I have dedicated my adulthood to it, and I want to enjoy the rest of my life here."

"My Green Card was going to expire in August 2027. This would have been my second 10 year renewal."

"My becoming a citizen can only barely have been described as voluntary."

Stamford, CT, Us

Nothing should be that difficult. It’s exhausting hearing people talk about coming here the “right way.”

The have no clue how long, expensive and complicated the process is.

Phoenix, AZ, Us

I've mentioned before that I was married to a foreign national. He came to the US on a student visa, we got married, he eventually got a green card and later was granted citizenship. It was a pain in the ass then but at least there was a transparent process. And while officials at what was then called INS were deeply suspicious of everyone's motives, movement through the system wasn't impeded by gross stupidity, nationalism inconsistent with our founding principles, and mind boggling intellectual toe stubbing (immigrants help make our country great).

Windermere, FL, Us

Part 2

Who is affected by ending the adjustment of status?

The memo doesn’t explicitly cover asylees and Cuban Adjustment Act cases because it only discusses adjustment of status under one particular section of the law, but it notes that only a few categories—like refugees admitted abroad—have mandatory adjustment of status processing guarantees in law and would be exempt from the logic of the memo (i.e., that adjustment of status is discretionary and disfavored). Therefore, there is reason to believe that the same policy could eventually be used for Cubans and asylees, even though there is no way for them to be granted an immigrant visa. The only way to receive permanent residence is through adjustment of status. As the figure above shows, USCIS has stopped processing these humanitarian categories anyway.

The upshot of USCIS’s bizarre new policy is that the vast majority of the 1.2 million backlogged legal immigrants with pending green card applications for legal permanent residence will have to self-deport. This includes spouses of US citizens and legal permanent residents, as well as their minor children. It includes skilled H?1B and L?1 workers who have often waited for over a decade or more for green cards, along with their spouses and minor children.

Further implications:

Forcing green card applicants to leave will render many green card applicants’ ineligible because, when they leave the United States, they will trigger the 3- or 10-year bars on receiving an immigrant visa based on accrual of unlawful presence.
It may cost them their jobs and, therefore, their sponsorship if visa delays prevent them from returning quickly (which is guaranteed to happen based on the flood of new applications).
It will cause them to be subject to the Trump administration’s 75-country immigrant visa suspension and 40-country travel ban (92 total countries)—or half the immigrant visa flow.
It will cause them to forfeit hundreds of millions in application fees.
It will force them to apply at consulates where the doctrine of consular nonreviewability protects any denial from judicial review, and there is no administrative appeals process.
When people are denied, if their underlying status has expired, they will be eligible for arrest and deportation—juicing ICE’s deportation machine.
This policy is illogical and will harm Americans, their employees, employers, and family members. It will drive talented people to other countries and make America a less competitive place for business.

Windermere, FL, Us

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced Friday that it will cease granting green card applications except in extraordinary circumstances. In short, DHS grants green cards when a qualified immigrant who is inside the United States applies to adjust their status to legal permanent residence. Now, every legal immigrant must leave the country—that is, self-deport—even if they are qualified for a green card and even if leaving would disqualify them.

The policy is a radical expansion of DHS’s “quiet quitting” on legal immigration that has been going on for months. As I previously detailed, DHS—or, more precisely, its component known as US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)—has slashed green card approvals in half over the last year. This drop came primarily from not processing applications. Now USCIS’s new memorandum details a plan for mass denials. USCIS has gone from the “quiet-quit” to walking out on 1.2 million green card applicants.

“From now on, an alien who is in the US temporarily and wants a Green Card must return to their home country to apply, except in extraordinary circumstances,” USCIS states. It calls adjustment of status inside the United States an “extraordinary form of relief.” The idea that this is an extraordinary form of relief is entirely baseless. This language and framing are not in the statute, section 245 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which has existed for decades. The law grants the authority to do it, which every administration has faithfully done according to the intent of Congress, until this one.

As the figure below shows, most legal immigrants—56 percent—since 1980 adjusted status inside the United States. In no sense is this a policy reserved for extraordinary situations. The reason it has expanded so greatly over its existence is because more people come to the United States temporarily. More people coming means more opportunities for those people to apply to adjust.
How USCIS (mis)interprets the law.

The USCIS claims that it is contrary to congressional intent to have so many temporary residents applying to adjust to permanent residence. This is wrong. In 1952, Congress created the adjustment of status provision because it was causing so much hardship to Americans and their families to have to leave the United States for the sole purpose of getting a visa to come right back. It was an illogical, complicated, and expensive process with no upside. Since then, Congress has repeatedly attempted to expand the use of the adjustment of status.

USCIS states, “Nonimmigrants, like students, temporary workers, or people on tourist visas, come to the US for a short time and for a specific purpose. Our system is designed for them to leave when their visit is over.” But this ignores the realities of life. People come as students, and then they get a permanent job offer. People come to visit friends, and then they get a marriage proposal. People come for whatever reason, and their country is taken over by someone who will persecute them.

The law explicitly envisions these things happening. The K?1 visa was designed for fiancé(e)s of US citizens to come temporarily for the purpose of getting married. The H?1B and L?1 skilled work visas explicitly permit someone to have “dual intent”—both to come temporarily for work and to pursue a green card at the same time. Employment-based immigrants are explicitly entitled to change jobs based on a long-pending adjustment of status application. Congress clearly expected that many applicants would be applying for adjustment of status, and that backlogs would likely continue.

Continuted..

Windermere, FL, Us

I always believed I would take citizenship one day. But I wasn't in a hurry to do so until last year.

My Green Card was going to expire in August 2027. This would have been my second 10 year renewal. Before - including when Trump was president in 2017 - I could go into the process confident it wouldn't be a problem.

Well, since they began deporting long-time Green Card holders if they so much as bounced a check- even decades earlier - for the first time my continued life in this country felt threatened. I began the process on I believe March 29, 2025. Once you begin the application, you have 30 days to complete it or you have to start over. At least, that was the procedure then. Maybe now you just get an automatic "fuck you".

Anyway- my 30 day window was closing. Since that time, a new application form was introduced, with dramatically expanded demands. If I didn't complete this one, I'd have to use the new one - which demanded oodles of details of not just my own social media history but also all my family and friends. I would have been committing a crime to not include my handle here.

So - I hit go.

The granting of citizenship itself was relatively smooth, although the actual day I got it was harrowing. I don't think I heard 10 words from anyone else there. They just went stone-faced through it like me just wishing it was over. Because this is what getting citizenship is supposed to be like right? Everyone scared to death?

My becoming a citizen can only barely have been described as voluntary. Like someone who is told they'll be kicked out of the house if they don't get married. Am I proud to be an American? Well, I would have been. "Why don't you leave?" the idiots ask. Well, for the same reason a spouse doesn't just up and leave. And possibly like that spouse, I'm under the delusion that "they'll change".

I love this country. I have dedicated my adulthood to it, and I want to enjoy the rest of my life here. But I'm not currently enjoying my United States experience. It is because I love this country that I am so distraught to see what is happening to it.

Trump is not the problem. He is the result of the problem. Getting rid of Trump won't solve anything because the conditions that produced his presidencies will not leave with him. He didn't roll in on a tank and seize power. We hired this psycho and refuse to fire him in spite of his abysmal job performance and stealing from the company.