Onehell…..”Mario you’re having a very difficult time with the difference between what a law states and what peoples opinion of that law are.” No, not at all. I brought up two contradictory cases IN LAW that contradict most of the reasons a…
Onehell….”That is what you THINK” Ah, no. That is literally the way it works. Is the woman thinks she wants the kid, carry to term. If she doesn’t think she wants it….kill it. I guess you don’t see the contradiction in treating a fetus as…
Tbr…..”It makes no difference what an individual thinks.” Bullshit! If the mother THINKS she wants the child, she can go forward with the pregnancy. If she THINKS she doesn’t want the child, she gets to kill it.
Ro…..”The courts never said an unborn fetus is a viable human.” The courts do say that the fetus is a human. Viability is a bullshit argument. There are 10’s of thousands of adults that are not viable without external support. Should we be…
Ro…..”when is the male responsible? ” The male is almost always responsible. Courts award women child support and force men to pay for prenatal care all the time…..it doesn’t matter if we do or do not want the child.
Onehell…..”My opinion? It’s an stupid law. It’s codified so a Conservative (such as yourself) can claim that at any point after conception there is life.” Thanks for your opinion.
8….. so now the brain must be fully developed to gain protection? Great. So we can kill people until they turn 25 and their frontal cortex is developed? Lmfao
8…..”If a person physically or sexually assaults her, does he get multiple charges? When she commits a crime, does the officer charge multiple people?” Seriously? The unborn child (fetus) has no intent in all of your situations. Thus they…
8….”Is it an unborn child, kid, youth, young man/woman, fetus or baby that she is carrying?” It is a “human”. Humans are not to be killed unless they are going to kill you. The law is clear that a developing baby, fetus, etc is a “human”,…
Onehell…. I couldn’t make it any clearer. I even put the operative word in caps. Why do YOU think it is illegal to put a pregnant woman to death? I’m only asking what YOUR opinion on that law.
8….”At what point is it human life? Lastly, can a 1-3 month fetus/baby be born an survive?” What does that have to do with anything? A one year old, which everyone thinks is a person, can not survive on its own.
Onehell….. My original question, which you have yet to answer, was why do you think we made it illegal to put to death a pregnant woman? It is very specific. So again, why do YOU think we put that into law? It surely isn’t to protect the m…
8inch…..” You want to decide for the woman?” No, I’m agreeing with the courts and treating a fetus as what it really is….an unborn person. And all persons deserve to be protected. That is why we put into law that we will not put to death a…
Onehell….”Where in 18 USC 3596 sec. b. does it mention anything about babies? ” Sec B is in reference to “pregnant women”….. what the fuck else are they pregnant with? A kangaroo? Yeah, I answered your stupid question. Now answer mine.
Onehell….”Because. I was simply pointing out that this only pertains to federal death penalties. It has nothing to do with state death penalties.” That is all fine. But you offered that point in regards to my original post. So answer the o…
Onehell…”It’s all in good fun. Mario has no problem giving it back. And I would expect nothing less from him.” So very true. We break each other’s balls a lot. But if we ever sat down for a drink and talked, chances are we’d have more in c…
Onehell…. First, why would you bring up a state law when my post was in reference to a federal law? Also, federal law supersedes state law (Article VI paragraph 2 of the US constitution). Care to try again?
Onehell….. “ Reading is fundamental. They didn’t teach you that at Drexel? If the state the prisoner is in does not allow the death penalty? How can they be sentenced to death penalty in that state unless it was on Federal charges?” Wow, t…
Onehell…”My question stands. Where does it say anything about the baby being innocent.” Like many other laws. Your argument was addressed in subsequent SCOTUS opinions. You might want to reference US v Higgs. But thanks for trying.
Onehell….”What section of 18 3596 mentions anything about a “developing baby”?” Do you think the woman is pregnant with a kangaroo? Your arguments have not gotten any more lucid in the past year. Well done on staying, at least, consistent.…
Onehell…. First off, I attend Drexel University’s Kline School of Law. You do realize that federal law supersedes state law, right? The federal law is used to convict the accused. State law dictates the manner in which the sentence is to b…
Sum….. the other poster is “party” correct. Constitutionally, we are not to have a “standing army” (this includes all other branches except the department of the Navy). However, the constitution permits a “temporary” funded army. Hence the…
8—-“Because only the woman can decide if she wants to carry to full term or not.” Um, no. Nice try. It is illegal because the developing baby is innocent and has not been convicted of a capital offense. But nice to see you fall in line, li…
Can anyone answer why 18 USC 3596 sec. b. states…….” (b) Pregnant Woman.— A sentence of death shall not be carried out upon a woman while she is pregnant.” Any ideas as to why we made it illegal to put to death a pregnant woman?
Onehell….. First of all, I never said that I had bronze stars. I said that my family has 2 bronze stars and one of which is mine. It started in a conversation about military awards. So it was directly in relation to a thread topic. As for…
8inch…. The slave states wanted ZERO REPRESENTATION of slaves. Thus, 3/5’s is less than what they wanted. Hence the term “compromise”. Guess you don’t understand fractions as well as common English terms like “compromise”. Lmfao.
Onehell….” Did you serve with an Internet Dentist also? He won a couple Bronze Stars also.” Just because you have done zero in your life, does not mean that the rest of us have done the same. Funny how you talk shot about people who are no…
8inch…. Lmfao. Funny how you completely dismissed the fact that you had the state’s stances completely reversed. But don’t comment on your obvious stupidity towards commonly known facts. Moron.
8inch….” The anti-slavery states wanted to NOT count Africans/slaves” Wait, the anti-slavery states wanted slaves to not count slaves? Well done, MORON! You got it EXACTLY wrong. The northern, anti-slave states, wanted slaves to count equa…
Onehell…” @Mario, no reply about the garbage spewed from the first term Rep from Colorado?” Not sure as to what specific “garbage” you are referring to, but I’ll be happy to put forth an opinion, if you refer to a specific statement.
8inch….” Why the need for the 14th Amendment to the Perfect Original Constitution?” To overrule any state’s laws on the matter. Duh! Guess you didn’t know that amendments superseded state laws? Of for fuck sake.
8inch….” for the purposes of determining congressional representation” Exactly. “ The "Three-Fifths Clause" thus increased the political power of slaveholding states.” Ah, no. It decreased the power of the slave holding states. THEY wanted…
8inch….” In 1787, Africans were negroes or slaves. No voting rights. Not considered equal to White men.” Except there were black men who could vote. They were land owners….and, some blacks even held black slaves. Guess you didn’t know that…
8inch….” We, well most of us, learned in high school that both parties flip-flopped on their ORIGINAL plans/format” Guess you don’t realize that the “flip flop” happened before those two , democrat filibusters AGAINST the civil rights act?
Onehell….” That isn’t extremist? How about form the upper chamber. LA Senator Kennedy called a United Stares citizen a communist. Not extreme?” Ah, so stating facts are now extremist. Now your opinion makes more sense.
8inch….” When were white ppl written as chattel and 3/5 of a human being” Apparently, you have yet to master the English language. Blacks were never considered 3/5’s of a human being. But by all means, do try to push that bullshit narrativ…
Onehell….. Do put forth your evidence of “extremist” rhetoric on the floor of congress? If there was any, I would probably condemn it, as anyone should.
8inch….” Originally it was legal to enslave and murder non-whites. Even after amendments, Natives had their lives and land taken away.” Ah, the law never mentioned race, moron. It was based on land ownership. That is why the first slaves o…
8inch….. Ah, no, we studied history. We just don’t slant it towards our current political agenda. You DO realize that it was literally against the law to free a slave during colonial times, right? Hence why several signers of the constitut…
Onehell…. Seriously? Please do post any and all laws that specifically target “black” people. Bringing up race in rebuttal to all the race bating is not bringing race to the forefront, it is a response. But hey, your party found a “race” p…
8inch….” ounds like a States' Rights kinda guy. America was created with racial and gender hierarchy. The Constitution is proof.” You mean the constitution that states ALL men are created equal. Moron.
8inch…..” What were their names?” Guess you don’t have google? Moron. Maybe stop being a race baiting cunt and listen to both sides, with an open mind? But you’ll never do that. Putz.
Tbr and Onehell…..” You do not condemn them. Why?"” I condemn both. There is no need for the bullshit race baiting. We don’t have a race problem in America, we have an extremist problem.
8inch…. The moral right? Meaning the lunatic evangelicals? Yeah, they are nuts as well. FYI, morality is not a characteristic of a certain group. Unless you mean people with morals. Morality comes in all shades, religions, sexes and politi…
8inch….” Guess what dickhead, there are still laws being broken and ppl dying.” And those people need to be prosecuted and sent to jail. You can’t regulate evil deeds and expect to make meaningful changes. People have evil intentions and b…
Onehell…. I have an issue with all divisive speech. That was one of my issues with Trump. If he stuck to his policy matters and stopped with the Twitter, reality show rhetoric, he would have had a much better platform. But I’m not for the…
Tbr….” It's only morons like you and porn picture guy that are outraged.” How exactly did you ascertain “outrage” out of that statement? Not liking something doesn’t equal outrage. Unless you are a moron who doesn’t comprehend english.
Tbr….Apparently you don’t even watch your own left wing bullshit media. It was the left that was outraged. I found it all pretty ridiculous. Or are you one of the morons that still believes that Juicy got beat up by some whit (black) supre…
Tbr….” There is no sense in rehashing this over and over.” There most certainly is a sensible reason to go over this case. Because it was a clear case of self defense and yet people are still characterizing him as a murderer (like Onehell…
Onehell….” If he wasn’t there? He would not have had to self defend.” Ah yes…. The old, “She was asking for it because she wore a short skirt” argument. Way to go. Blame the victim. It is just as easily stated that this would have never ha…
Onehell….. 8 said “hired or asked”. I did not distinguish between the two. But to farther clarify, Kyle was ASKED by a representative of the car dealership to protect that car lot. There were clearly additional car on fire that night, as s…
Tbr….. Because you have no legitimate argument. I already stated that I didn’t agree with him being there. That doesn’t give anyone the right to attack him or negate his right to self defense.
Tbr….” The bottom line is there are two people dead that would still be alive had he had decided to not get involved.” There are two people dead who wouldn’t be if they hadn’t attacked another citizen. There, I fixed it for you.
8inch….” Who hired or asked him to come to WI?” The owner of the car dealership. Again, that was brought up in the trial….. if you bothered to watch it before spouting your claims.
Tbr….”I don't really care who passed the law, or the party of the governor who signed it into law.” Yet you felt the need to add that a republican wrote that law (erroneously). Your credibility for partisanship is severely compromised.
VA, I never said what he did was wise or anything of the like. I surely would not have allowed my 17 year old to be in such a situation and surely would not have driven him to that area. However, he allegedly went there to protect property…
Tbr…. Nice try. Do your research before you spout off your bullshit. The fact that this was one of the most obvious cases of self defense in recent history, with video evidence from several angles, yet you still sit on your pulpit and spou…
Clyde….. It’s almost funny that Tbr assumed that a republican put those gun laws on the books. The particular law was written by a democrat and voted on in bipartisan fashion and signed into law by a dem gov.
8inch…..” He was a terroristic threat to everyone on the street, including himself.” He only pointed the gun at people who threatened his life….so how was he a threat to anyone else? Your statements get more ludicrous as you try to dig you…
8inch…..” He was not met with deadly force,” He had a pistol pointed at his head. Is that not deadly force? Lmfao. How about a kick to the head? Or a skateboard to the head? Yeah, those actions have never resulted death. Duh.
8inch…..” How many off them stabbed or shot him? How many shots were fired at him?” Ah, so you have to be stabbed or shot at defend yourself? It is the threat of bodily injury that you are legally allowed to defend yourself against. I don’…
TBR....."every reputable study"....... You stepped on your nuts again. Wrong! Nice try but thanks for trying. Most mass shooting are stopped with a good guy with a gun.
Ro..... Between 65,000-100,000 women are raped each year. Yeah, it actually is a lot like thunderdome . I'd much rather they stood a better chance at fending off the rapist or killing him than getting raped and/or killed.
One hell.... Oh for fuck sake. I moved no goalposts and the scenario was more in jest. I initially had it as an average woman against an average man who is trying to rape and kill her. I thought making it a roving band of Trump supporters…
8inch..... "Do you advocate for non-violent offenders to re-gain their Constitutional Right to own guns?" Of course they should get back ALL their Constitutionally protected rights.....after their entire sentence is served. Although you ma…
One hell.... First, I never said that the vulnerable were being attacked WITH guns. I'll give you an easy example. You are unarmed and a group of racist, white supremacist, Trump supporters, are going to attack and beat you. Are you at a s…
TBR....."One could think that it is a tragedy that so many people are killed by gun violence, and also being for the right for people to defend themselves." ......and yet you still want to take away people's right to defend themselves. A f…
One hell.... Ah, so maybe the white guy deserved it for beating his wife? So you side with the cops when it's a white guy getting killed by cops but not with black guys. There is a name for treating people differently because of the color…
One hell....."Maybe if the genocide wasn’t taking place the riots never would have occurred." Because I asked "what genocide"? Yeah, 25 deaths is not a genocide. But if you "think" it is a genocide, there are twice as many unarmed white me…
One hell.... Why would I be concerned? Gee, because there was over 25 deaths, hundreds injured and billions in property damage because of this case. Isn't THAT cause enough to be concerned?