Send us Fan MailWe have a great show this week. We talk about Progressive Swingers. What does that term mean. Are you a progressive Swinger? How much is just lip service? This show dives into the concept of relationships, intimacy and feelings in the adult alternative lifestyle. We talk about all of the what ifs and what can happen. NO this is not a show of just sex stories, it is a show of substance!!! Is the show still fun and funny? FUCK YES!! Do we tell you if you should be a Progressive Swinger ? FUCK no. The lifestyle is your journey but you need to understand the road signs and how to read the map! Check out all our shows at www.buzzsprout.com/181336Visit our paid sponsors at: Http://www.smokinmeatsbbqtreats.com http://www.asnlifestylemagazine.com http://www.fullswapshop.comfullswapradio.comkrazykasbh.comYouTube : http://www.youtube.com/KasbhSend us emails at krazy.kasbh@gmail.comTwitter: @TruthKrazyInstagram http://www.instagram.com/Krazy_Kasbh/
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Speaker1: Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. What are we doing? Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another episode of Crazy Truth. I'm your host with the most I'm Cole. I'm here with the lovely, lovely and so loving and caring Miss Amanda. Hey, I am very loving and caring. It depends who we're talking about. We'll get to that in a minute. Show it one way. This is season four episode. Oh, fuck. Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. I did not eat in her pumpkin. I didn't even know she had a pumpkin to eat. Episode 159. Now, guess what that means? The next episode is 160. Do you know what that means, kids? Do you? Do you? Not a goddamn thing. That means 160. It's not an actual special thing. But if you make it sound like a special thing, people are like, we need to listen to this show So we can hear what's going to happen to the next special show Woohoo But then they're all special, right? Oh, they're not fucking special, alright There's a degree of special, like unheard of Anywho, so we are here It's a holiday, we record on Sundays It's Sunday, it's Memorial Day weekend Does a holiday weekend stop us? Fuck, no't. Hasn't before. By golly, we just power right through this shit like the fucking, like we are and like we do. Yeah. So suck it, mother. Yeah. Woo. Anyways. Okay. You can jump in and add in. No. Are you in the holiday spirit at all? You're wearing your Full Swap radio shirt awesome yep right across her tits if you listen to full swap radio you'll get to see her tits i don't know if that's true or not but it's sure worth a try uh on a radio how can you see oh hey look at this leah jim brendan larry are all listening together rock on we've got the the gangs all here it's like awesome are you guys naked if you're naked here's the deal if you guys are naked and send private message me a picture of the four of you naked we will send you you'll win a free gift thing i'm going to show you right now so we're going to go to our sponsors right now our first sponsor is smoking meats barbecuetreats.com there are good friends cody and amanda uh and it's meat rubs here let's let's show the meat rubs so here's the thing uh they've got lemon pepper orange mango spg with uh himalayan uh pink salt what and oh yeah and pineapple paradise plus the fourth one is going to be named after uh i thought you fucked it up also now here's the thing so these are awesome. You can now order them. They ship anywhere in the country. Smokin' MeatsBBQTreats.com. You can also find them on Facebook. But that's their website. Order today. Now, we have, so Leah and crew, here's the deal. We have a set of all four of these that they ask us to give away for free for a contest so here's the deal send me a picture of the four of you naked we will send you uh we'll send you meat rubs the guys are going hurry up strip no shit and and they will until and girls make sure you grab the one with the hima hima uh habanero on there and and rub that on their meat i don't know i didn't send a picture of that that would be wow uh so anyways again and we want to thank them because this is obviously barbecuing is a big thing memorial weekend they are actually having a big barbecue as we speak at their house right now so again uh support them smoking meats barbecuetreats.com also asnlifestylemagazine.com remember remember tits they may sag balls they do sag they may drop but a brain will last forever if you read smart swingers read asnlifestylemagazine.com three million swingers can't be wrong they They can be, but there's more of them than there are of you, so they win. Read, check them out today. And also, Forbidden Omaha. So it's Forbidden-Omaha.com. Check them out today. They're one of our sponsors for Crazy Summer Nights. Derek and his wife have done a tremendous job. It's a badass club here in a play on-site club. Oh, I gave shit away. Whoops. It's an on-site premise play club. Check them out today. Forbidden slash Omaha. Or no, hyphen. Hyphen Omaha dot com. Check them out. Fuck off. Give me some sign. Don't look at me like that. I'm trying to figure out what you magically gave away. What did I give away? A four-pack of... Well, not that jackass.
Speaker2:
What? Oh, when? What?
Speaker1:
Oh, well, I was going to say Omaha, but it doesn't matter. It's Omaha. So there you go.
Speaker3:
Well, it was in their title.
Speaker2:
What?
Speaker1:
Yeah, I know.
Speaker3:
Why is that actually fucking... That's why I'm like, I'm confused. What's so secretive?
Speaker1:
I've been on the road for 20 fucking... I've went around the world, and that was within a two-state radius. radius you don't know that you weren't with me all those miles on the road again I don't own the lyrics but I can say it there you go anyways hence cowboy hat no I'm just kidding cowboy hats because I'm breaking my hair in it is what it is I was waving all the truck drivers going by thinking someone might know why he was. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. Holy shit, and we just got a naked picture, a four-smith naked picture. So there you go. We will have the four set of... Oh, that's awesome. That is so badass. So you guys just got a free four-pack of all the rubs, and we're going to save that picture here. No, I don't save pictures. But that's fucking awesome. You guys kick ass. Way to go. Awesome. Now, see, now it's a party. The guys probably went, hurry up, get undressed. Now it's a fucking, now it's a party and a half. There's meat rubs going on all over the place. We need a party like that. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Raise my flag. I said we're stuck at home. We mowed, though. And a kid going, hey, I might need you to pick me up. Hey, I went to a church thing and I got wasted. Good plan. Great. Sure, we have nothing else to do. Anyways, whatever. But that's a party. Memorial weekend party right there. Wow, that's awesome. Man, they were hurting. They were listening and stripping clothes. Hadn't been just flying everywhere. That's awesome. Although it looked like things were kind of already... I don't know that they had to work that hard to get naked. It seems like the process was well started. And that's the way it should be. Now it's a holiday. Okay, so let's get on with the show. The show ho-ho. Do you have anything exciting, different you want to talk about for the week? Oh, fuck.
Speaker2:
Do you? Maybe.
Speaker3:
I don't know.
Speaker2:
Do I? I don't know. Do you? Hmm.
Speaker1:
Let's see. Miss Amanda believes in customer service. Let's just put it that way. You know, here's the thing. There was this time. There was a time. and this actually leads into what we're going to talk about really well great actually uh there was a time and a place where i'm gonna have a shirt that's made that says this i why would i ever want to fuck anybody but you we have progressed from that point to to sucking the dude's dick in a closet I don't know.
Speaker3:
I don't know.
Speaker1:
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker3:
I don't know. I don't fuck anybody this week. We have progressed from that point to sucking the dude's dick in a closet at work this last week. Yep. There you go. And it wasn't the boy toy. No. Oh. Now, it was not just a random. It wasn't. She just walked up and like, hi, welcome to Want Your Dick Sucked? No, it was somebody that we knew and he follows me on Twitter and he's vanilla as fuck. Yeah, he is and he was trying to be smooth as all get out and see, it worked. It happened to be it was what, 7 o'clock well, it was like 7.30 in the morning I don't know, I wasn't there, pumpkin and I i'm like well there's a closet right here and he goes let's go i'm like okay so miss amanda makes dreams come true just so i sucked his dick he wasn't gonna do anything else no i know that but that's okay and it was not totally random by any stretch this is we've been teasing and flirting about it for quite oh my. Oh, my God. Probably well over a year. Yeah. Well over a year. And I didn't think he had the guts to follow through with it, but apparently he did. And obviously, she did have the guts to follow through. Or he did. Yeah, he did. Yep. So I followed through on my end. Miss Amanda pays her debts. What can I say? And so I've been hassling her nonstop. And then later that day, then I had a little make-out session fondling, and then I messaged you and said, you're fucking me when I get home. And then you made dinner and forgot about it until I came out and said, hey, are we doing this or what? And you're naked. I was being nice. I wanted to get my dick Somewhere in the pecking order God
Speaker1:
She had a very busy day She didn't do a damn thing at work But she was very busy
Speaker3:
I was away from my desk quite a bit
Speaker1:
No shit For some odd reason I didn't think Amanda smoked She doesn't Why is she never here? No reason Yeah So there you go So you had a fun week at work A day at work
Speaker2:
Whatever
Speaker1:
I don't know. she doesn't why is she never here no reason um yeah so there you go so you had a fun week at work a day at work whatever you like piled it all in one day yeah pretty much it's been kind of slow it wasn't bad it made the day go by fast i felt bad i wasn't at my desk very much oh i, I'm sure you felt horrible. I felt horrible. Yeah, I felt horrible because my knees hurt. Wait, what? Okay, so... I squatted. I didn't get on my knees. There's a difference. Good girl. I am so proud of you. Nothing worse than having dirty knees when you come up for no reason. You've got some on your knees oh check under her mask anyways uh no mask okay so the reason this ties into because what one of the things i want to talk about we had a very interesting post uh this week on our on our page hold on a second i got i gotta oh i we got another we got another photo oh yeah oh look at that i'm getting i'm getting pictures all over you know what uh we can do that uh uh miss luna luna we can yeah miss luna i'm losing my mind we can uh so you got another pack of meat also because i just got another naked picture there's a pack of meat or how about rubs you get meat rubs you can rub on mike's meat it'll work out anyway okay someone caught me off so that's we're going to two sets of rubs away so there you go there you go uh so yeah okay so here's what butterfly here is what We had a post go on our page okay and i thought it was very very interesting we talked about it a little bit she didn't know i was going to talk around here so here it is nope i didn't okay uh the post was progressive swinging and the definition progressive swinging is a newer term that describe describe swingers who are comfortable with and sometimes prefer some level of emotional intimacy with their other sexual partners. Often progressive swingers enjoy having friendships with their play partners and enjoy doing non-sexual activities outside of the bedroom in addition to sexual activities. Okay. So, so I, I looked it up. I wanted to see where the term came from uh everything like this term came around in 2014 it was started by another podcast uh that still is hit miss and going the podcast is very poly uh and very poly focused and so i want to talk about this because here's the thing i think that there for those of you just listening i'm getting picked off my shirt for those of for so the thing with this is is that okay when this term came around in 2014, okay, Facebook and some of the other social media sites were starting up, but it was not as predominant in the lifestyle community as it is right now, at all, okay?
Speaker2:
Okay.
Speaker1:
So, when you look predominantly at the responses on our page to just this post, I don't know.
Speaker3:
I don't know.
Speaker1:
I don't know. I don't know. I don swinging adventure is their own okay so understand that don't take it personally if you get your panties in a wad no because we're gonna have different views on this right if you get your panties in a wad tough shit fuck you it's not my problem i warned you okay okay so here's the thing with this i think it's really interesting because this concept is great, but I think that it's really fucking twisted in today's world versus when this came out in 2014 and when this started. Okay. Do you want to know why? Why? because I truly truly believe that or the question i would ask is how much this was designed for fate was considered face-to-face contact i want to get to know you as a person not via the computer not social media more and more people now if will consider if you interact with someone multiple times or a whole bunch online, it's like they know you. It's like you know them, but you don't. Okay. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So when everybody goes, yes, because most people go, well, we do like to have something. I've got a couple problems with this, to be honest with you, but that's you but that's the first one it's like okay wait a minute are we talking you want to get to know someone like real life get to know someone which you cannot do online that's how catfishing happens that's how all that shit happens like real life get to know people or just are you wanting to be comfortable with somebody there's a huge huge fucking difference in my opinion. Yeah, but you don't know which context this was taken out of. Because in my opinion, that is when everybody started having freaking labels on everything. So we have to have a label for this and a label for that. It's gotten away from what you consider traditional swinging, which is just pick a key and fuck whoever you get it right it's more of a comfort level on having to get to know somebody because what if you're friends so we've had friends in the lifestyle that we've never had sex with and we've had some that we have had sex Does that mean to get an emotional connection and make us into a poly type thing? No, we're just friends. Okay. No, and I get that. And real quick for people who are just listening that don't know, we record this every week in front of our live Facebook, secret Facebook group, Kaz Bank. Shh. Don't tell the others. And so we get, we got some good comments already. Mike puts, read the post, not into labels, but we prefer to know about the people we play with and am not opposed to doing vanilla things, but it's not a requirement. That's a great point. I think that kind of goes along with what you're saying a little bit. My thing though is, okay. Well, I'm going to come back to my other point. Here's one of the other problems I'm going to point out with this in my opinion. Okay. Okay? The focus, everybody focuses on when we saw this post and when it went out and when it's on the internet and even when it was originally talked about, the focus comes out to describe swingers who are comfortable with and sometimes prefer, basically, the second half, they prefer to doing non-sexual activities outside of the bedroom in addition to sexual activities, that they enjoy having a friendship with their play partners. That's the part everybody focuses on. That is not what this fucker says.
Speaker3:
No, it was about the emotional attachment.
Speaker1:
Yeah, well, it's comfortable with the intimacy, with the level of emotional. It's not just emotional emotional the key phrase in this to me is intimacy okay intimacy is a big deal it's easy to browse past or blow right past the word intimacy look you're going to have an emotional attachment with somebody that's okay in my because friendship is a form of an emotional attachment intimacy has no fucking place in the lifestyle none intimacy has a place in polyamory and poly relationships but in pure swinging situation here's the deal intimacy is not okay intimacy is supposed that that's part of the problem is people are getting into the lifestyle because for the wrong reasons because they're lacking intimacy if you're looking for intimacy out in the lifestyle with somebody else why are you looking for intimacy because you're lacking it in my opinion okay okay so and when you start having intimacy then we have talked about in a poly situation learning how that you can love and have different levels of intimacy is is true in a poly situation i have lots of people that i'm friends with that i have a couple friends friends that are close, close, good, good friends that I love that are, you know, like my best friend type thing. But that number is very fucking small. That's a very reserved place. And just because I want to stick my dick in you does not mean I want to be intimate with you because intimacy means you're gonna i'm gonna show you you're gonna get to see me at my weakest you're gonna see me at my most vulnerable i'm gonna open myself up and allow you to see hurt to see tears to see all those things that is not something's gonna fucking happen i don't care how good of a fuck you are but i mean do you i mean I don't know.
Speaker3:
I don't know.
Speaker1:
I don't know.
Speaker2:
I don't know. I don't fucking happen i don't care how good of a fuck you are yeah but i mean do you i mean maybe that doesn't matter i mean i guess if if everybody's agrees and blows past the word intimacy then i guess it doesn't matter right well no it does matter maybe that's what people are missing i mean okay so do you believe that you can have can you have a friendship
Speaker1:
that equals this just by buying by inner online interaction well no so okay so but well but can
Speaker3:
you do you think that people have that misconception well because of social media and stuff Thank you. so okay so but well but can you do you think that people have that misconception well because of social media and stuff that takes away from all that but you still want to meet the person before you have sex with them well but to me this is less about sex and more about establishing this whole other outer relationship ahead of time see to me i get no well it can go either way you have to look at it because some of it um you're not going to develop any type of connection until you meet face to face right okay you're not gonna you're not i'm not but not everybody is gonna say that way okay but you're not gonna get that level of connection even just emotional leave intimacy out of it you're not going to say that way okay but you're not going to get that level of connection even just emotional leave intimacy out of it you're not going to get that without meeting them plus you're not going to get the you know non-sexual activity sexual and non-sexual you can't have sexual without meeting them well no but what i'm saying is think about people that marry somebody in prison they've never met so so so i mean the reality is
Speaker1:
there are some people that feel like they have without i feel like i've known you all my life i feel like we've already we've already met we that have that level of that they can somehow i can't do it get that level of emotion via the computer via or via social media or media I'll see you next time. That they can somehow, I can't do it, get that level of emotion via the computer or via social media or media versus getting to know people. And to me, that's a scary thing. Real quick, Jeff says, social media is nothing like face-to-face meetings. Mike put, between us, the lifestyle increases intimacy, i.e. learning new things to please each other. Exactly. That increases intimacy between the couple. Yeah, it increases intimacy i.e. learning new things to please each other exactly that increases intimacy between the couple yeah it increases intimacy for them between the couple this is where to me it gets challenging i think that there's a huge influx i have to take these off because i can't fucking see there's a huge influx oh my gosh there's a huge influx of the ability to communicate face-to-face is a dying art, right? And so I think that people can find a way to substitute and convince themselves mentally because you do so much interaction with people online before you ever meet that it's like, oh, yeah, I know them. Look, Jerry Springer's made a fucking career out of bringing people on that thought they knew somebody online. Seriously, it sounds stupid, but I sit there and go, okay, I understand that people want to have a connection before they have sex. You and I don't give a fuck about that we are into sport fucking we always have been because fucking is fucking i don't look i don't need to know shit about you either i'm interested or i'm not if you're a cunt i'm not i'm not interested if you're fucking funny and cool then i probably want to bang it you know i mean we're that's just us we dig sport fucking i understand that some people want to for there are many different reasons want to have more of a relationship but part of it is i think it's a bullshit relationship which leads me to my next point with this you ready for this one i don't know let's go here's my thing everybody this i look at this as a lot like condoms okay okay if you look at every single fucking person's profile out there or i'm gonna go 90 of them they all say condoms condoms only condoms only always fuck with condoms what do we know about that that we know that's a complete crock of shit right right this is the same thing here's the deal everybody goes you know what we're not gonna just fuck somebody on the first time we meet him there's a lot we want to have a really i'm not saying everyone we want to get to know him okay here's the thing except for the fact that it's some fucking chick i'm gonna go from a guy's perspective here it's some chick that is super hot you've been talking to for a year your picture her pictures make you hard as fuck you finally meet and it's like yeah it's like we know each other yeah good enough bam here's i'm gonna be in town one night this is your one chance fuck and you you're not gonna go to dinner and say well we need to schedule another time in six months you're gonna fuck her you're going to fuck her 90 of the people are gonna say well we know each other from facebook close enough yeah let's go you don't know shit about her it's in theory it sounds good so you don't sound like a slut but the reality is is the opportunity comes up a whore the opportunity the opportunity comes up to fucking rail that person that you've been lusting after online online and the opportunity comes I would put money, money that 90% of the people are going to give into it Cole would it be more than just being friends with someone because certain people might not want the intimacy? True. Cole, if you're really into sport fucking, you'd fuck the cunt. You still want to get the minimum. No, because look, I do everything to win. Okay? So I have my hands full of fucking as many batshit crazy girls as I can possibly find. It seems to be, I have three criteria to have sex with a girl generally. My turn-ons are. I don't think we're completely. Blondes, nurses, or batshit crazy. Any one of those three. But I think, okay, I think definitions of sport fucking is different too. Yes, it is. I'm being a smart guy. You wouldn't just pick a key and go, okay, you're up, that's fuck. It if the opportunity came up if it was somebody what if it was somebody you you knew online that you hated if it was you wouldn't be able to get it up what if it was somebody that wasn't your body type you could get it up no i don't believe it i'd like to think because it was an opportunity i would like to try but no you're right okay no i can see you if it was somebody you hated doing an angry oh fuck yeah banging the crap out of them it'd be like i'd be drinking i would you know what i would do i would put my sunglasses on while i'm fucking them from behind and have a bottle sitting on their back so i can take shots while i'm doing it just to be a dick that's what the kind of angry fuck i would do but as as a general rule, you're correct. No, yes, we do have different definitions of sport fucking. Yes, because I'm just not going to. Okay, have we hooked up at a bar and gone, okay, yeah, yeah, it's doable. Let's go. Yes. Have we done that? Yes. Have there been some times that i've had to take one for the team
Speaker3:
because you were just too drunk yes okay and and we couldn't back out by that point because someone was running their fucking drunken lip i'm like are you kidding me i'm like oh my god it's not my type but okay we'll go with it but here we go this is gonna be awesome. Can I meet somebody for the first time and within hours go fuck them yes if they put off a bad energy fuck no i'm all right but as long as everything clicks right off the bat then it's go right but you don't need to know you don't have to have a long history with no do i need a connection no no but i don't blame people that need
Speaker1:
to at least meet first and and then then not let's rephrase they don't play on the first right and we are not i get that we are not i am not bashing that either i seriously think that's just a label because for some god-awful reason everybody has to have a specific label for everything can you have an intimate connection and not really mean it not really mean it i can't no i get it i get it that it's not like a marriage intimacy or a massive intimacy type thing i've had a guy that i hooked up with we hooked up as a couple and he used the word chemistry and you about fucking lost my shit Yeah, when no, we had a guy that I hooked up with. We hooked up as a couple. And he used the word chemistry and you about. Fucking lost my shit. When, no, we had a connection that was just weird. And all of a sudden, it was just like, it was amazing. It was. But to me, the thing with it is, when you start fucking around with the word intimacy. And when you start, you are playing with fire here's the reality of it i don't i will put our communication and our marriage against anybody's bring it on i don't give anybody listening you want to compare communication skills and marriages step right the fuck up okay and i know that when you start fucking around with intimacy and what that truly means, you are playing a dangerous fucking game. Don't you think there's different levels of intimacy? I do think there's different levels of it, and I think that when you as a couple are ready to move into a poly relationship, I think you should have that. If to my current rant my newest rant just throwing this out here is that i drip on poly i don't rip on poly i rip on this new wave thing in the lifestyle of hey we're brand new we think we want to fuck other people because it's going to enhance our marriage we did that for a week and a half now we want to have play separate have boyfriends and girlfriends you don't have a fucking clue what you're doing you are not fucking ready there's like this huge jump like we need to hurry and be in a poly relationship poly is just that a relationship you need to have your shit together before you bring somebody else in it's kind of like kink hey you know what you slap my ass i kind of like that so i went out and bought a fucking saint andrew's cross and i'm having somebody with bullwhip beat the fuck out of me uh wait a minute you know well i slapped her ass one time i'm i now can be a dom no it's the same thing there's like this there's like this i tied a knot let me tell you yeah no shit hey i'm i tied my shoes i'm a rigger let's go i i mean the the thing is is that you're not touching me the thing is is that it's not that it's wrong and and maybe this is a way to slow help people slow down as well with that but it is a dangerous trend in the lifestyle to be trying to hurry up and get to playing alone or trying to get to a poly situation you need to have your shit together and people just because it seems cool like so you can tell everybody i've got a wife and a girlfriend hey you to know what? It's a motherfucker to make a wife and a girlfriend happy in a true relationship and to be able to fulfill correctly and in a positive relationship emotionally and sexually to different people. Most people can't do it for one. Most people probably shouldn't be allowed to jack off and think at the same time because they don't even know how to emotionally handle themselves let alone touching themselves and include sexuality at the same time that's just the reality of it so then it's like well yeah it is cool to say that you have a wife and a girlfriend i've been there but i've also made the decision at an event where I could have hooked up with a girl that was really wanting to hook up. And I was really down to hook up. But my wife, the guy that she was going to fuck, it fell through. My girlfriend, the guy that she was going to fuck, it fell through. They were both bummed out. and I made the decision not to go hook up because I knew from a relationship standpoint they would have been okay with it but it kind of would have been like a slap in their face so i put the needs of the two other people i'm in a relationship with ahead of getting my dick wet and you got in trouble for that and i got in trouble for it but i don't regret it because a relationship is a willingness to put the other person ahead of you so that what i would say is if you're gun ho to get two fucking girls are you gun ho to pass up the super hot third chick not get your dick wet because it's the right thing to do for the two that you're just walking around pretending like they're eye candy that's what i think that's where my concern with this comes in you know you're like halftime i am at halftime and but we're not done with this but i'm coming back so stick with us we'll be right back there'll be more hey have you ever been out yeah on an evening yeah and you saw somebody and you went man That's a cool shirt. Where'd they get that? Have you... an evening yeah and you saw somebody and you went man that's a cool shirt where'd they get that have you ever went man i wish i could wear the newest coolest shirts damn well you can if you go to fullswapshop.com you know what we say kids you've listened to the show you read the mag come on fuckers don't hold back buy that swag get your full swap shop gear today all your favorite shows you know like the one you're listening to now insert name here crazy truth maybe it's one of the other shows maybe it's a sport that awesome full swap radio whatever the case may be check them, check them out today. Full Swap Shop today. Get your merch today.
Speaker2:
And we're back.
Speaker1:
That was a new commercial. That was neat when that one got cut. Anyways. Wow. Somebody should work on that. Insert name here. That was kind of bad. This is why people hate us.
Speaker3:
Anyways, okay. No. People hate us and hate me anyways okay no people hate us because i don't know it's not because of the customer service that's one of our strong points okay so don't you know we have haters because we don't know why when we've even asked them And they won't tell us why. Okay. Because. You know why. No, why? No, seriously.
Speaker1:
You know why no why no seriously you know why no i don't please please tell us we want to be better i swear to god we do okay so i want to go back to this a little bit and then we'll move on but i just think that this is I think that there is a huge desire in the lifestyle right now to find a way to make it less dirty.
Speaker3:
Okay.
Speaker1:
A little bit. And I think this is a safety factor to do that also.
Speaker3:
I don't know. I'm on one Facebook page and that makes me look like i'm a fucking angel well okay and maybe maybe that's it well maybe we're just in the wrong area well maybe maybe the old school way is is i mean i guess there's the reality of have we have we gone the way of the the dodo bird that it's just wrong to fucking two sport fuck it's hard because no because i think it it might might go based upon where you're at location wise geographically because these people are on the east coast and it was almost like you know party this party that and i fucked this guy and i had this many guys and yet i'm like going holy shit i need to move out there my game you know they made fun of me when i was talking about parties and letting singles in and i'm like but we live in a large poly community you know yeah well it's I'm watching the lines and they're not going. There's, it's, it's a large. It's just the swing of a pendulum. I like that. We'll put that on a shirt. Swing of a pendulum, swing of a pendulum. I get it. My, I guess here's, I guess here's probably my biggest problem I have with this. And this, this goes back to the condom thing too you want that damn condom thing no my thing is fucking why can't people just be honest you know what you will never never get me or read anywhere where I say that we don't play on the first date
Speaker1:
and that or the hey you'll never get me to use the word date one sorry you'll never get me to say that we we don't play if if things are hooking up or feel right and you will never get me to say that we have to get to know people better i'll never say never because it might be a once-in-a-lifetime thing and you run for it the thing is is if i choose to do that with somebody I'll see you next time. get me to say that we have to get to know people better never say never because it might be a once in a lifetime thing and you run for it the thing is is if i choose to do that with somebody whatever and that's fine again we're not bashing but my thing is i think too many people are putting shit they're they're basing things off of what they think sound good what they think look good and i think that they're not putting into the truth of the internet. They're not putting the truth of how that should actually work and interact. And the difference of it, you can't put a blanket statement. The internet is a game changer. It changes everything. How do people know each other? How much, what do you need? How much, what type of interaction do you need to go out on dinners? Do you need dinner dates? Do you need, do you need dates? Or is it just you chat for two months online and you really get to know somebody? Cause you can, you can get that feeling. What is it? A blanket statement doesn't work. And I don't believe that most people put these blanket statements for any other reason because other people do. So they think it's like height and weight proportionate nobody ever puts what height and weight proportion is no one ever puts on their fucking profile that you need here's your height chart and here's your weight chart five foot you need to be 90 pounds five foot one you need to be 92 pounds five nobody puts that part they all put must be height and weight proportionate what is height and weight proportionate excuse me bob you have height and weight proportionate required on your on your profile if someone is six three what is the correct weight for six three wait you don't know well how will they know if they're height and weight proportionate and bob what time does the train leave detroit you don't know that either no no stop remember when we first got in the lifestyle mirror on one of the websites i don't know which one and someone put no, stop. Remember when we first got into Lifestyle and we were on one of the websites? I don't know which one. And someone put, must be, we're into the athletic type, height, weight, proportionate. And we weren't, but we just happened to be at a bar that they were at. And we're like, someone introduced us. And I'm like, that's the one that said that they're athletic. Where? Yeah. Well, guess what? You know what? I understand that playing cards can be athletic as hell, but whatever. I'm not judging, but don't ask for something. But then a lot of people put that. A lot of people started to put height and weight proportionate. But no one can define it. You can't put shit in line. Technically, I am 60 pounds overweight. No, look, here's the deal. My title, if we were going to put it on a business card, would say Cole Snodgrass, Crazy Truth, Swinger, Fatty. That's what mine would say because that's the... Mine would say morbidly obese. Yeah, mine would say morbidly obese because you know what? I think I supposed to be 180 i can tell you that if i'm 180 that i could i i do not look healthy we'll get to 180 and we'll we'll find i look good at 223 that's my my goal is get back to 223 now look here's the thing what the the point i'm making with him though is that if you don't put terms that you're not going to define if you have a certain thing that you feel strong about rock on and you should do it define it okay so let's look at this at a different standpoint okay you said oh fuck off you said that that came from podcasters that were mainly poly yes okay so maybe they just stuck the word intimacy in instead of just having an emotional connection but they threw intimacy in to sound good and then it stuck and then that's really not what they meant it very well could be it it very well could be and part of the reason i say that it very well could be is the poly community is there okay we are not experts in any way shape or form i am not an expert on poly at all we have dabbled in it we're in a form of it right now a form a form really what you call it Exactly. please take this for exactly what it is we are admitting our complete lack of experience to be able to say anything you know this is not factual that we know test over this but when with people have this misconception that if you're poly if you ask a vanilla person oh so somebody's poly that means they fuck anybody no there are a lot of poly poly group relationships i guess what it would be officially what you call it i believe triads and more ads and whatever that they are not is a triad a poly relationship depends on on the on on the poly thing again that's you know we'll just we're just gonna say a poly relationship doesn't mean that they're it just means that relationship is with that x number of people in case it doesn't mean that they're swingers it like we go have sex with multiple people that's what we do i mean a theory rumor rumor has it anyways just because a poly relationship is poly doesn't mean they're having sex with anybody else outside of that who's in their poly in their in their group so then here's a here's another thought though because this tells how much I don't know, is I saw a single guy post that he was poly. Well, okay, how are you poly if you're not in a relationship? But or is it saying that he's poly-friendly to do that type of relationship? I think, I think. what okay because i've actually been added to two poly Facebook groups because a couple that's on our page are admins of a couple of poly Facebook groups. And so I got added to them. And one of the things it's been very interesting to watch because the dynamic is so different in terms of it's not the sexual swinger concept, you know, that it's, it's a relationship they're looking for. I would almost put it as in this is my total uneducated viewpoint of it, almost like more like a dating site. Okay. So they're looking for people interested in poly. So, so basically it's like farmers only.com. They're looking for other farmers. You know what I mean? So in Christian Mingle, they probably don't want a satanic worshiper and it's not going to hit it off with somebody in ChristianMingle.com. You know what I mean? So they're looking for other people that are open to. Or a swinger. Oh, yeah, that are open to or interested in poly. So I think that if we were to be on a site like that, we are open to a poly relationship. The difference now for us is we are not, and this is where I think swingers and people that are truly poly are different. And this is part of my hang-up is that swingers, poly people are looking for poly relationships. That is what they want. They want to be a part of a poly relationship. They're looking for a relationship, not just a threesome or foursome or exome, whatever you know they're looking for deeper and more than that where a swinger you know what i want you and another girl because that's a threesome and i like that you know i'm i'm not looking for a girlfriend so to speak whatever it's just there is so much difference between the swinger world the poly world I'll see you next time. girlfriend so to speak whatever it's just there is so much difference between the swinger world the poly world the kink world granted we're all okay i always say it we're one big tree right we all have our own branches just because we're on the same tree doesn't mean we're all the same nut okay so it's like we can't you know it's one thing to dabble and go visit the other branches and and go okay and and maybe move into those other branches or progress to those other branches whatever that's fine but just because we can't lay claim that well you know what um well we're swingers and so let's see who what are all the branches kinksters poly nudists you know so we're all those things too i'm not a fucking nudist no nope not it not it in least i'm not a fucking kinkster not it okay you know and just because you're a kinkster or nudist doesn't mean you want to fuck other people doesn't mean that you're a swinger. It's adult alternative lifestyles, but it's not necessarily adult alternative fucking lifestyles.
Speaker3:
So when they created this term, do you think that they're wrong?
Speaker1:
No, I don't.
Speaker3:
What would be your definition if someone were to say progressive swinging?
Speaker2:
Because to me, it's like it's a step above regular swinging which to me because you have to know somebody doesn't make to me I would eliminate it to me I think that there's too many of there's too many subcultures and too many labels you know what here's what it is on my swinging swinging adventure i like to sport fuck i'm open to or i in my swinging adventure and our swinging adventure we're open to sport fucking or getting to know people we're open to either one and maybe for somebody else's they can say on our sexual venture we want to know people better why do we need to why do we have to continue to separate so when you separate like this what you're basically saying is we're right you're wrong and they go well no no then then they go okay well here's the deal you don't think the way we think so we can't there's no way we can act you stay over here you stay over here that's the problem in the fucking lifestyle in the adult alternative lifestyle instead of being open to let us all do our own thing and be cool to each other again bill and ted had it right be excellent to each other and learn we're so busy making sure going keep the dirty whores that are sport fuckers out just the relationship people keep the fucking people that need to date Date and fuck Keep them away Keep the dirty meet and beat group away Why are we so worried about Trying to take and compartmentalize The lifestyle Here's what it is If you're cool And we hit it off and you're okay with fucking because you think i'm cool we go fuck then everybody else should be like rock on happy for them if we talk and we go oh well you know hey would you like to have dinner sometime and then we hit it off and then we fuck we everybody else should go rock on We have done that and not even known what was going on. Yeah, but there's such this, God, it just. The challenge is what happens is these things come in vogue like this, okay? Yeah, it is. Dan has it right. It is like having high school clicks. As these these things come in vogue what happens is new swingers coming in whatever is the predominant new flavor or new style of the month type thing that's what the new swingers are going to think is is the way it's supposed to be remember eventually they're going to be the old swingers at one point in time because we just were horny and wanted to fuck other people and the way we did it so we could not feel dirty about it because seriously key parties started because here it was we could all go drink put our keys in and you didn't have to worry about anybody being judged because we're just pulling a key out and we're fucking whoever it is it was a way to make it feel more normal so everybody could fit in and have fun that's what a key party does instead of just an open orgy exactly gotcha and because here's the deal everybody had a key everybody was getting laid it's that simple there was no no because you know what there was no social media you didn't have very many choices look you found 20 other people that want to fuck yeah there's like five of them that are super hot and and the rest that are just average people the super hot ones are the only one's gonna get fucked nope everybody put your shit in the key in the bowl everybody's getting fucked we all had sex and that was the way and then it progressed, things came out that we could be more choosy. And people could. And that's how all this shit progresses. So this is like the now version of a key party. It's still the same thing. It's just, you know, now we're going to have. We need to put a term on it's still the same thing it's just you know now we're gonna have we need to put a term on it look how sterile this sounds you know what to the vanilla world if you say things like emotional attachment intimacy okay it's like talk with delilah okay it's john stew Welcome. Today we're going to talk about intimacy with your play partners. Emotional attachment. It's deeper than that. It means more. Because in the vanilla world, all they hear is you're dirty fucking whores and you fuck everybody. Oh, but wait a minute. This group's talking about intimacy, emotion. And that's all it is. It's smoking mirrors. Great news. Here's the deal. You're married to you. You and I are married. I go stick my dick in her. You watch and you like it and you're okay with it. It doesn't matter if I cover it with the word emotional or intimacy. I'm still fucking another pussy and it's okay. And we like it. And it's a sexual kink and it is what it is. You can make it flowery. You can make it pretty. You can smoke and mirror. You can decorate it. You can put all the makeup you want on that pig. The bottom line is our hobby is fucking other people. You had another dude's dick in your mouth this week at work. And you know what? You liked it. It turned you on. You got off on it. It made you excited you excited and you know what it made me excited when you got home it made my dick harder to fuck you now you can say emotional and intimacy and caring loving nice yeah but it's still raw as fuck it's just it's you sucked a dick and it made me hot there was none of that well no i i know but but that's the whole thing it is what it is so fuck all the take lose the smoke and mirrors it is what it is you know what it's not if if in a poly relationship it's a relationship that's what it is a relationship to people you vanilla relationship is not always pretty a poly relationship is additional people in a relationship you know what it's not always fucking pretty it's a lot of work it's a lot of effort there's times we hate each other there's time to like each other you're gonna fight you're gonna break up you're gonna get together it is what it is quit fucking smoking marionette quit trying to make it something prettier than what it is quit putting makeup on the fucking pig we got a whole bunch of pigs running around and they're all dressed up and nowhere to go when have you ever used the term don't make up on a pig i've used it a lot no you haven't yes i have i've go back and listen you've said here when i've said it on other shows just say you're full of shit well you are such a fucking bitch. Such a fucking bitch. Yeah, it's just, yeah. So, and Shanna has a good point too. It's the current social norm, needing to label everything and everyone. I'll agree with that 100%. It is, you know. Everybody wants a label. It's the younger generation that has to, well, I think everybody wants a label at some point. You know why that is? What? they quit giving away the free labelers and cereal boxes where you could label all this shit in your house because parents got pissed off and that's what it is so more kids needed that as a little kid they didn't get to put license plates with their names on their bikes so they're making up for it by naming their fucking sexual adventures shannon but cole we must define and label each dynamic and person to make us look better to make us look better people that's about the truth look there was a time in the world where if you uh if you were a guy or girl and you worked for a garbage company and you picked up garbage, you were a garbage man. Okay.
Speaker1:
And now.
Speaker3:
They're a sanitation worker.
Speaker2:
That's right.
Speaker1:
No, they are not workers.
Speaker3:
Oh, what are they?
Speaker1:
They are sanitation engineers.
Speaker3:
Oh, gotcha.
Speaker2:
Okay.
Speaker1:
There are no truck drivers. There's transportation specialists.
Speaker3:
I was a domestic engineer.
Speaker1:
You were a domestic engineer.
Speaker2:
Absolutely.
Speaker3:
I was still a mom.
Speaker1:
Uh-huh. And everything is. Insert. You were a domestic engineer, absolutely. I was still a mom. Uh-huh. And everything is, insert what, you know what? Somewhere along the lines, we forgot that to just take pride and just be okay with who we are, that we weren't our titles, that our titles didn't define us as people. And it started in that world where everybody so now everybody all look it doesn't if you're a cool person it doesn't matter what your job is why do you need you know the your job the title shouldn't define you that's a problem this is where swinging and the adult alternative lifestyle is very much a mirror reflection of real life because we have lost the ability to just be okay with who we are. We take our self-worth based upon fucking categories that people put us in and titles that people give us. So now we have to say we're progressive swingers or we're we are you know whatever you know we are bdsm or we're poly or what instead we're just we're just fucking people man it is what it is keep it fucking simple this shit is not that difficult it just drives me up a fucking wall yep great show alright goal that was awesome and fun wasn't that neat how many downloads are we going to get on this one 12 doesn't matter I hate labels always have I do too I do too you know the sad thing is is that how many people are missing out on an opportunity to hook up with somebody that's really cool that they might really like because that person isn't labeled correctly it's happening I promise you it's happening and it's happening because new people are like, oh, wow. They've heard, stay away from Colleen Amanda.
Speaker2:
They're just. It's happening. I promise you it's happening. And it's happening because new people are like, oh, well, they've heard.
Speaker1:
Stay away from Cole and Amanda. They're just fucking. They're whores. They'll fuck on the first date. It's happening. Mike, we like fucking.
Speaker2:
Absolutely.
Speaker1:
That's the shirt we all need to get. That's what our name tag needs to say. Hi, I'm Cole. I like fucking. That's what it is. I think I like fucking, I remember it Way back You fucked me up Not that long ago So you remember what it is I knew not to fucking bark Yeah, I got that But that's fucking. Yep. But that's fucking current. That's fucking fucking. That's regular fucking. Swing fucking. That's been a while. You know what? If your kids have a kid, then I'd be fucking a guilt because I'm soon to be fucking a new bracket. By the way, in 13 days, if you like Miss Amanda, follow her on Twitter her you know what she likes two weeks from today which is she turns 50 years old so here's the deal send her birthday presents she likes things like $100 bills just saying put your fucking hand away I'm broke That's why we're making this plea. Just saying.
Speaker2:
Put your fucking hand away. I'm broke.
Speaker1:
That's why we're making this plea out of here.
Speaker2:
No. So, anyways, follow her on Twitter. Don't you have a wish list on Twitter? Uh-huh. No. She needs stuff. I don't just mean like walkers and stuff like that.
Speaker1:
She's not like that. She walks and does yoga and exercises and as sexy as oh hey look okay oh my gosh hey that's awesome alright so uh you know there you go so that just keeps that in mind so soon I'll be Miss Amanda's getting ready to change her age bracket so I'll get to say that I'm fucking someone from the age of 50 to 55 now.
Speaker2:
Neat.
Speaker3:
Oh, my God.
Speaker1:
So much closer to cheap free shit, I can't wait. Like, I got a long ways to go. Trust me, I'll be getting the ARP shit long before you do, because...
Speaker3:
You have been.
Speaker1:
I know, because people look at me and they go, oh, look at those crow's feet. That guy's 112.
Speaker2:
Neat.
Speaker1:
All right, how are we doing? Where are we going? We got to fucking... It's time to go. It's goodnight, sweetheart. No Truth Crazy. Listen to us on FullSwapRadio.com. There's also an app for that. We are there. We are on there every Monday at 5 p.m. Central Standard Time. And again, at 11 p.m. Central Standard Time every Monday. Full swap radio. Also, don't forget all of our great sponsors. Remember, SmokingMeatsBBQTreats.com. Order some. Tell them Kazma sent you. God damn it. And remember, lemon pepper, orange mango, SPG uh himalayan pink salt uh and pineapple paradise that's the one that's the rub for the lifestyle uh plus we're gonna have one named after us apparently which is cool uh smart swingers read asn lifestyle magazine.com three million swingers can't be wrong unless they're all dumb and they're not smart swingers read just saying and remember you want cool shirts like, just saying. And remember, you want cool shirts like Miss Amanda's? Tits included. You want cool shirts like Miss Amanda's and mine and some others? Go to fullswapshop.com. Check them out today. Send us emails at crazytruth. No, don't send us emails, though. Send us emails at crazy.casbah, K-S-B-H, at gmail.com. Go to our website, www.crazycasmail.com. Go to our website. Crazy, uh, www.crazykazba.com. Fuck off. Um, no, no, you know where we're at. Follow us all over your fucking place. If this is your first time listening to us, ask a friend, they'll tell you how to get to us. Anyways, doing it the only way I know how, the only way I want to, by the way, congratulations against to Luna and also to Leia and I just remember their
Speaker2:
pictures.
Speaker1:
Leia and all the naked people with it.
Speaker3:
Oh, you're stumbling, man.
Speaker1:
God, I'm fucking... I've been drinking. Anyways, you guys, your meat rub will be on the way to rub some out. So we will talk to you all soon. Doing it the only way I know how. The only way I want to. Holy fuck. And the only way I ever will. Casbah style.
