Send us Fan MailBeing New in the Adult Alternative lifestyle, I.E swinging is about lots of fun and lots and lots of learning and some bumps and bruises along the way. This week we answer the question of a new couple that hooked up with a Newer couple and how things got really fucked up really fast. Can we say it again for the people in the back COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION. If you are new or experienced you need to listen to this episode. We will give a spoiler, the couple that sent in the letter, did not do anything wrong and we hope they will keep pushing forward in the lifestyle! CHECK OUT ALL OUR SHOWS AT www.buzzsprout.com/181336Visit our paid sponsors at http://www.asnlifestylemagazine.com http://www.fullswapshop.comVisit us at http://www.fullswapradio.comVisit us at : http://www.krazykasbh.comYouTube : http://www.youtube.com/KasbhSend us emails at [email protected]: @TruthKrazyInstagram http://www.instagram.com/Krazy_Kasbh/Support the show
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Speaker1: Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth. I'm your host host with the most cold i'm here with the lovely lovely and probably highly annoyed yet again miss amanda wow that's rarity say your line right for the hey god god this is season four episode 160 and we're just now learning our lines. We don't have lines. We have lines. We don't have lines. People have expectations. Maybe you have to change it up so it can be a shock. No, they have come to expect to hear your warm and loving, hey, it means all the difference to them, And then these people tune in for this opportunity. And then all of a sudden you get, that's different. And then they're like, but, I need my Miss Amanda. Speaker2: Hey, fix. Speaker1: They need a hey fix. Are you going to wake up to do the fucking show? Speaker2: I'm just listening to you. Yes, I'm wide awake. Speaker1: Oh, yeah, you're wide awake. Speaker3: Yeah. Speaker2: Mine might be bloodshot, but I'm wide awake. Speaker1: You look like you fucking have six bowls shoved up your ass at one time. Fucking bake galore. Speaker3: Anyways. Speaker2: If I did even... I can't tell. Speaker1: Would you like to expand upon that thought? Speaker2: If I ever did that kind of thing, you might be able to accuse me. Speaker1: Accuse you of what? Getting high. ever did that kind of thing you might be able to accuse me accuse you what getting high with a little help from my friends thank you very much to be here all week hello did you plan that one i did yeah i always do uh awesome we're being listened to on a motorcycle right now does that mean i need to speak louder just kidding i'm sorry i'm a dick dick i'm such a smart ass okay so uh for those of you don't know well welcome to welcome to the new world the new dawning it's the age of aquarius uh anywho uh so but we also record our show in front of our secret secret facebook group casbah inc shh don't tell the others so uh but if you want to join let us know we'll hook you up uh and somebody sent me pictures uh hold on hold on we got to check this this is important holy shit somebody went blonde look at that you go girl I love when people send us pictures
Speaker3:
that's awesome I'm a blonde. Woo. Look at that. You go, girl. Woo. Woo.
Speaker1:
I love when people send us pictures. That's awesome.
Speaker2:
That's sexy. I prefer them naked.
Speaker1:
Just saying. Just any blondes.
Speaker2:
Show them a shirt on.
Speaker3:
Why?
Speaker2:
I like seeing girls naked.
Speaker1:
I know you do. And we both do. So, yes.
Speaker3:
Just saying.
Speaker1:
The hair looks really nice. Yes. But by the same token, you know you know and a truck so we've got on a bike and a truck we're everywhere you know what as johnny cash once said i've been everywhere man we are everywhere right now we're traveling the country as we go so hey real quick let's give a shout out to our paid sponsors shall we we shall okay so we talk about all the time you know that tits they sag balls may drop smart swingers read and that's very true and they read asm lifestyle magazine but tonight here's the deal so i want you to do something special i want you all to get your handy dandy pen and paper out right now and i want you to write this down because you all need to be not you need to Or your notepad app. Or your notepad app. Thank you, fucking Bill Gates. Anyways, so conspiracy. I'm just kidding. So there we go. Oh, I got it. Much better. Boobies. Love it. Love it. Nummy. Thank you. Yeah, thank you very much. is why we record with the computers out here. This is why you can't see why I'm starting to jack off at my desk. Anywho, so, no, I'm all butterfly. What was I talking about? ASN. That's it. So, read the magazine. Three million swingers can't be wrong. But also, you have a chance to come party with all of us that are part and deal with asn and the great folks at asn magazine you can actually come up this uh now you can sign up you go to www asnevents.com you need to get signed up today to get your tickets to go to the asn awards which we're up for like seven awards right okay so you need to be voting for us anyways but uh the the event is the weekend of it is and we have our team we're gonna be there so you can meet us for one okay party with you can party with us and and right off the bat if you're not partying with us why are you not partying with us i'm just saying uh and they've got all kinds of stuff going on they have there's gonna be a vendor showcase after hours parties seminars pool parties uh entertainment there's big time entertainment silent auctions uh meet and greets workshop i mean this is gonna be the shiz knit uh plus you watch this one you didn't write down the date did you what do you mean i didn't write down the date yeah it's. Of course I wrote down the date because we're there. We're already booked up and going. It is the weekend, September 16th through the 19th in Orlando, Florida. So sign up today, asnevents.com. Now, here's what's really funny. Anybody that wants to come from here, we can do a freaking caravan. We can, and here's what's really funny. I have a code that you can put from us. I forgot to from us i forgot to write down the code but you don't need a code to go sign up so go sign up sign up today before huh what would the code be that they know that came that they're part of the the crazy group ah gotcha but the thing is is we want to see you all there we cannot wait to see you all there so make sure you check that out also uh don't forget you listen to the show here's one you're listening to it now uh you read the mag you're gonna go to their award show come on fuckers go buy some swag full swap shop.com check it out today you want to be a part of the magic how can you be part of the magic have it on your chest magic happens on people's titties just saying or on your cooters uh and dicks and stuff so get some of your stuff today uh full or coffee books magic happens in coffee too just saying so check it out okay and you can listen to our show on fullswapradio.com don't forget to check that out yeah have anything you want to add say you want to do anything this is our 160th show aren't you excited wow
Speaker3:
is that a milestone Yeah, have anything you want to add? Say, you want to do anything? This is our 160th show.
Speaker1:
Aren't you excited?
Speaker3:
Wow. Is that a milestone? No, not really.
Speaker1:
It's just a neat number.
Speaker3:
Just saying.
Speaker2:
Okay. Okay, so. I'm trying to figure out why your camera has me cut off. That's all good.
Speaker1:
Well, you need to tilt it more that way.
Speaker2:
I'm not touching it.
Speaker1:
There you go. There she is. Just like that for the whole show.
Speaker3:
Okay, so. So, yes. And thank you very much. It's very nice. We were actually doing a celebration of life thing this weekend. So, we are back and ready to roll. So, I've got a question in my hand. I got a question. Do you want to read the question? Oh, it's long. You read it. You fucking. Oh, you got to take the glasses off. Oh, God.
Speaker1:
I didn't bring my bifocals. Okay, so this question is from D and Z from Tennessee.
Speaker3:
Okay?
Speaker1:
Before I go into my question, I want to give you some background. We're relatively new to the lifestyle, about three months. We've met a few couples, been to a couple of lifestyle clubs. We don't have a lot of free time, so we usually, where are we at we usually chat uh with couples before deciding if we want to meet potentially play before last night we had met about four different couples one we have become really good friends with but haven't played with yet one we have played with and the other two we just got drinks and had good conversation one brand new couple had messaged us i need better lighting messages and we started chatting and they were and uh we got drinks and had good conversation no i messed that part up we just started we just started god damn it uh they were super cool and everything was going great i was a little concerned in the beginning because when we asked them about their rules and boundaries they were pretty big quit touching my shit they were pretty vague and it just didn't seem like they had really set those yet that's a key point in this okay okay there was a lifestyle party coming on or up that we were going to and they decided to go and meet us there it was super late when they got there but I was actually surprised that they showed up at all because it seemed like they might flake out either way we had really good conversation and everything seemed to seem to be going well she was hitting it off with my husband and he was the same way with me I asked him again what they were looking for and he said he didn't know if they were soft swap or full swap it just depended on how they felt the party was winding down so we invited them up to our hotel room once we got there they kind of kept chatting and my husband and I after being at a party for a while we're ready to get into it I'm just being honest so he asked if they minded if we got that started they said go ahead so my husband and i started to play with each other and they did the same my husband suggested a soft swap and asked if they wanted to do that and they agreed so we swapped he asked to go down on me that would be the guy writing it and i said sure all of a sudden my husband and his wife are full swapping uh i.e they're fucking which he asked her if she wanted to and she said yes so i asked him if he wanted to fuck and he said yes at this point he was soft again okay so i helped him out there and we started having sex his wife is getting railed awesome and having a major orgasm to which he said she is coming and that is hot and about 20 seconds later he's completely soft and can't get it back up i know this happens to guys and i completely understand especially since it was their first time so i asked him what he needed and suggested we and he suggested we swap back hoping that might help so i go back to my husband and he goes back to his wife and the next thing i know he's in the bathroom and his wife looks like she's about in tears we ask if everything was okay and she gathers all their clothes they change in the bathroom and leave without another word to us and he immediately leaves the group chat we had going So, let, so. time playing with another couple and it kind of shook us wow okay so okay so i'm gonna boy did i just trail off that bad yeah that's why i was moving the microphone you got pissy at me okay so i reached out to them and i asked for a little more information okay okay i asked them if there were condoms were used uh and if there was come swapped yeah and i asked when the clothes came off to the other husband you know what was his reaction what what was their reaction was they were getting undressed as the play started with each other with their own couples with okay uh and uh then the other question asked was how big the husband was okay okay because my size intimidation right there's a whole lot of factors going on here because you're you're talking about this is a challenge with newbies right. So to a degree, you have the blind leading the blind somewhat. Okay, so actually, since that was lengthy, break it down. Break it down for me, fellas. No, give the, I say the CliffsNotes version, but that's really kind of going against shit. So how about the condensed version? Okay, so the condensed version is this. They're a relatively new couple. They ended up hooking up with a brand new couple that didn't... There were some red flags. It didn't sound like they were real sure on whether they were full swap, soft swap. In the heat of the moment, they went to full swap. And all of a sudden, he was having issues. They swap back. And the next thing you know, the couple that invited him to the room looks up. The other couple basically shoots out of the room. Goes to the bathroom, gets dressed, doesn't say a word. And this new couple that they were hooking up with has taken and left the chat group.
Speaker2:
Okay, so you said that he had left the chat group.
Speaker1:
But they sent me another.
Speaker3:
I don't know. that they were hooking up with has taken and left the chat group. Okay, so you said that he had left the chat group. But they sent me another update. Did she? Here's the thing. Not only had they left the chat group before they even left the hotel, she sent me a follow-up. Before they even left the hotel, they had deleted their lifestyle profile. Oh. So we're talking like oh holy shit and the bigger part of the cliff notes is there's a passel of mixed signals being sent here yeah okay so i i want to start with the couple that sent the question in okay because their first thing was did we do something wrong absolutely not no okay so now normally miss amanda and i do not talk about questions at a time no but we were in the car we had we were in the car and i was reading it to him so i knew what the question was right and and we we have we have talked about this a little bit because over dinner but yeah over dinner part of the reason we though we talked about this is because this is kind of a serious question and and there's a lot of things here it is a serious well it's a serious question plus you're dealing with two couples that are new so something's happened and two couples have been drastically affected by it number one to the couple that sent us in you didn't do anything wrong that is very important because yes and everybody's saying right now on the page communication communication issue very much as communication you did not do anything wrong i have some things i would suggest right okay the the first thing i'm going to suggest is because you were right when you put in your email there were certain things that caused you to were red flags you mentioned here that when you asked they didn't have bound or they didn't have set boundaries they didn't have set boundaries and that caused you to kind of be feel a littlefy about it. Here's the thing. No matter how long you've been in this, you always have to trust your gut. It's better to err on the side of caution for what's better for you. Look, you may piss somebody off because you don't play with them but if you don't get the right vibe yeah from them click don't because like people go and ask the rules i hope that's a good point ask the rules uh and and here's the thing when when if you ask somebody the rules and they can't give you a clear-cut answer. Being new, they may not know all the rules. To me... When we first started, there wasn't... You know, the guy said that they were actually a pretty good newbie couple, even though they weren't really a couple. They sucked in everything else, but they were a great newbie couple. Yeah, they knew what to ask newbies. We didn't have any boundaries. No. We didn't.
Speaker1:
No, we had one.
Speaker2:
No, no.
Speaker1:
No, no. That was the only boundary. In the three hours we talked, we told them the only thing was there was no fucking any
Speaker3:
answer.
Speaker2:
But we didn't also say that, well, it'd be soft swap unless, you know.
Speaker1:
Well, we even said we were going to go full bore.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
We're all in.
Speaker3:
Right. But, I mean, we didn't. No's what they did with Start Off Soft. Go on. No. Well, so the thing is, trust your gut. That would be the one thing I would say is if there is, you're better to err on the side to say, you know what, we like to play with you but it doesn't sound we're not comfortable that you're comfortable with where you're at yet and you can use the excuse that you're new to go we're so new we've only hooked up with one other couple we're so new that this makes us uncomfortable it's nothing personal but we have more set rules and where you don't have them we're not comfortable if that pisses another couple off and they don't want to play because of that it doesn't matter right because look you're never going to have play with these folks again anyways and and the bad thing is now you're second guessing yourself because that would shake you up that is like that you know i mean understand not everybody who's gonna have fucking a a listing hold on rule number 15 says no but if you don't if you don't know for sure if you're gonna do full swap or soft swap and it's okay to go with whatever feels right what you're in the mood for that's fine but when you're adjusting that rule on the fly that is never good one one thing that i said earlier was some couples might say i'm soft swap or you know we're soft swap so they have a buffer in case they don't want to go right right and then they can just go you just go, you know, I'm okay giving a blowjob, but you're not fucking me, you know, type of thing. Right. Not saying they're that way, but that was one of the thoughts that popped in my mind. Okay, Hillary put a good thing here. I feel as a seasoned person, you help them by suggesting they discuss rules as a couple and get back to us, offer availability for questions. And that's what we were talking about earlier today because you know as goofy as the first couple was that we hooked up with one thing that they did do right was they said go into the kitchen and talk amongst yourself to find out that's really what you wanted if you really want to hook up and we made fun of it and we laughed going well we wouldn't be here if we weren't but this couple goes from a party and it's set they talked but that's the first time meeting them yeah so they didn't they went straight from that party up to a hotel room they didn't get a chance to talk amongst themselves in private to know if that's really what they wanted to do right right okay real quick and we're gonna come back right back to that mike has a good thing too if other couple has no rules our concern would be will they respect our rules i never thought of that that's valid as fuck and we're gonna come back to that point too because that's awesome but what going back to that they didn't have a chance to talk when you're new you're excited we were in a situation where we learned the hard way as most couples do we were in a situation where we knew we were at that point where you thought you had no sex with everybody not saying that was the case here but there was it we were at a situation we ended up hooking up with there was was a couple of couples. I thought you wanted to be there. You thought I wanted to be there.
Speaker2:
In reality, neither one of us wanted to be there.
Speaker1:
We didn't talk. And we've had two experiences where people have done something like this to us.
Speaker3:
And we weren't new. No.
Speaker2:
And it does mentally, it's a mind fuck. Well, the first the first couple well they were actually relatively close together but the first one that we weren't into it that much that far a couple years maybe yeah so that's still fairly new to have somebody walk out on you at their house at their house yeah they all said got him went to the bathroom and then came back and like well we're done yeah and we're like to this day we still have no we got in the car and went what the fuck ruined my fucking birthday uh yeah but but we still don't know what we did and we had another one where we we were going new year's eve new year's party and And I was railing the girl And it was going great The guy hadn't even Got his clothes off
Speaker3:
Yeah
Speaker1:
And she came
Speaker3:
And all of a sudden
Speaker1:
She got up And literally Pulled it out of the room
Speaker3:
Crying And I'm going
Speaker1:
Well that's when it comes
Speaker3:
Then we
Speaker2:
The husband at least Stayed behind
Speaker3:
He stayed
Speaker2:
To explain
Speaker1:
To explain the situation Which the situation was That was the first time
Speaker3:
They played
Speaker1:
She had breast cancer And had just finished Her last treatment And it was like Thank you. explain the situation which the situation was that was the first time they played she'd had breast cancer and just had just finished uh her last treatment and it was like okay good thing to know ahead of time would have been great yeah and i and but he also then said don't worry you didn't do anything wrong because i we had respected all rules and everything like that but here's here's the other suggestion for the couple themselves what what you can take out of this what you can learn and we got so many more points to cover that's not funny when you both did the right thing you ask do you want to go to the next step with to full swap but what should have probably happened is when the the gal said to you the husband yes you know let's fuck he should have turned to the husband that's where that's where it would have been better to go okay i want to make sure let's make sure everybody wants to do this and that's where you have to stop it's hard you have two new couples that are caught up in the moment but that's where you you have to stop and go okay so wait a minute we're all having a great time sounds like right yep so do we want to go ahead and go to the to to the next level full swap because here's the deal it won't kill the mood we were in a situation the soft cop soft soft, where we were just happy, just giving oral. Well, let's back up. We flat out, we knew that they were a soft swap couple. And you specifically asked the gal, you said, look, here's what was it, at a party. And you were horny for pussy. And you're like, here's the deal. Do you want to come up? And know you're soft swap and so she's like i will not reciprocate i'm like you don't have to and are you cool and they're like yes they're all in great no big no big deal and and so we were going to do the soft swap thing as that was going he asked because i mean it was one of those things it's like we put it out there if you want to do more we're in no pressure we're not gonna you'd have to let us and that's what we said no pressure no anything else but if you're in let us know we're we're absolutely interested and so then the husband says you know to her hey because everybody's having a good time do we want to take this to the next level and she goes i i'm not ready to do that and and it was so funny that i was like okay well then immediately i'm really sorry it's like no there's no reason to apologize we we knew going into it that it was soft swap and it was totally cool we had been in it long enough it was that was not a hard thing for us to do it is it's a yeah it's a challenge with new couples but that's what if anything you learned out of this is look if anything you do for clarification during a swap or during a play date or play whatever kills the mood there's a reason for that it it was not meant to be it just it's better that it stopped at that point in time so okay so i want to i want to hit on a couple other stuff so hopefully number one uh dnz hopefully you guys don't don't beat yourself up okay learn from it learn from it and there's nothing wrong with causing everybody to to be the people to go whoa let's slow it down for just a second trust me whenever it goes yep yep we're all in and and everybody's for sure they're all in it'll heat right back up to awesome levels to people that are new that are just listening to this for the first time and you're thinking about doing it or you're thinking about your soft swap making that transition whatever the case may be i have said it a million fucking times on this show we have said it a million times you can plan for it you can talk about it you can vision I have said it a million fucking times on this show. We have said it a million times. You can plan for it. You can talk about it. You can visualize it. You can think it. Until you see a dude slide his dick in your wife or significant other, you cannot be 100% prepared mentally for what that is. just can't and until you see your husband or significant other slide his dick into another girl you cannot be 100 it's going to trigger shit in you you just have to know you can think no no i've got this it no it doesn't fucking work like that at all maybe you're just odd no i'm not no fuck you no but that's okay and the thing is it's okay it's okay it is even okay when it happens to go i need a minute because as a guy i know that i went i went that is so fucking hot why is this fucking hot that is my wife he's fucking my wife oh my god why is that hot but it is hot you you just have to know and so this is why making that switch or making the decision on the fly and going you know what fuck it we said we're gonna be soft swap fuck her nail her take her down pound that pussy bad fucking idea because when you see you're gonna be like oh my god she's liking it and that becomes the fucking problem it's not a problem but it's you have to realistically it's not a problem you just have to know it yeah so there are so many different scenarios that could have happened that you'll never know unless they tell you and what happened because i mean it can be anything from intimidation on size it can be anywhere from oh my god you had this massive orgasm it was hot but you don't make that sounds with him i've never seen you come that hard before it could be she enjoyed it too much could be that here's the thing it could be they weren't near as ready as they thought they were. When they removed the entire lifestyle profile.
Speaker2:
She said they used condoms, so that could be an issue.
Speaker1:
Yeah, because she said he was nervous with the condoms, which happens. And she did, again, kudos to this couple. They did a good job of, you know, like, it's okay, trying to help, work with it, whatever.
Speaker2:
He could be embarrassed as shit.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
Because it didn't stay up. There's so many different ways it can go, but the thing is, is that none of it is on you.
Speaker1:
No, but here's the thing. People have to, or the word you fuck me so good yeah absolutely yeah very much uh words have a very powerful fucking effect and a lot of times it's just saying what they you think they want to hear well i you know here's the thing is that it might have been hot but they could have had a very set i don't make noise so when i make noise oh my god when the first time you made noise and i'm just like i'm seriously i make the joke all the time if you just sneezed i'd be like you don't sneeze when we fuck you know but i also thought that i'd watch three kids pop out of your badge and all of a sudden i thought if there was a bigger dick i forgot it goes back down I mean it's just fucking you know you're just fucking the the scary thing with this okay this is fucking it is communication this is the risk you run with sport fucking honestly this is this is the okay I'm gonna say something that sounds horrible as a general we don't play with newbies i don't i don't need this shit we have we have there are people that prey on newbies and it depends on who it is honestly oh yeah because there's some people that we've gone okay no if you want to slow down let's slow down because we've coddled some yes along the way there are some people that it's like no i'm just not gonna i'm not gonna go down you you go by your gut yeah when you get certain vibes you're just like okay yeah you're about as ready to watch me fucking stick my dick in her as a hole in the head and no yeah when she fucking makes your old man's eyes roll in the back of his head because she sucks dick like a fucking porn star queen you're gonna lose your shit no we're not doing that no and it's just like they're you but then there's other people like okay it's worthwhile to do it even look some of this shit happens with experienced shit you know i mean we've had couples where shit you know the dude, the gal and I were fucking apparently just like wild monkey sex had never seen sex before. We're just like humping in no time before you and the dude could even be naked. And it killed the mood overall for the whole thing because I'm over here fucking railing away. And he's like, what, you know, we had a couple of different examples of that where he didn't even he didn't even have a chance to get hard yet yeah and we were like on round two fight it was it was and i'm look over i'm like holy shit and i mean and that can and slow down what i mean and that can and that can happen there's so much shit that can fuck shit up. I mean... Well, you're at halftime. Do you know that? Oh, shit. God damn it. Take a break. We'll come back. Okay. Hold on. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Did you need to do this? Huh? No. Okay. We'll talk. We'll run off the air. Oh, hold on. What the fuck are you doing? Shut up the mood man how can i do fake shit with her ding dong say hello come on come on go along ding dong shut up ding dong stop it if i'm gonna keep ding dong until you answer the door. Ding-dong. What? Hello. What do you want? What do you listen to to get you through the day? What tunes do you listen to? Do you find ways to improve your mind? Would you like to learn more about the lifestyle that you're a part of? Enjoy your hobbies more than you ever thought possible? If randomly shut up and answer the questions ma'am do you want to answer yes of course you do well we've got the solution for you full swap radio tune in today 24 hours a day seven days a week the top shows in the country all about the adult alternative lifestyle erotica kinksters bdsm swinging and so much more the things you can learn 24 hours a day seven days a week wouldn't you like that ma'am so i can learn to put a cage on you you can that's right we have cockerel shows and so much more so check it out today full swap radio.com you'll be glad you did i want to see you go to the neighbor's house and do that full swap radio it's the way to play well that was a neat commercial oh whatever i just came up with a no shit go go next door bring the doorbell and say that to the old guy okay Oh, no. You don't randomly go up to the door and bring the doorbell and say that to the old guy, okay?
Speaker2:
Ding dong.
Speaker3:
No.
Speaker2:
You don't randomly go up to the door and say go listen to our radio. You're a dork.
Speaker1:
Hey, you know what? Tell me that commercial won't stick in your fucking head. And you know what's funny? I pictured the microphone dancing when I was doing that little theme song. Full swap radio. Check it out today. Just saying. Okay. Whew. The marketing staff here at Kaz Bank is incredible. Just saying that out there. Okay. God. So, hey, we're back. Oh, my gosh. Seriously. Holy shit. We're back. Hmm. Can't wait to hear what people are listening to at halftime. Anywho. So, oh, fucking God. I am such a fucking idiot. Jesus. You said it. Everybody heard of you say it. That you're an god anyways so back back to back to our fucking kind of what the topic has turned into is a little bit is is like you know the the this is the challenge let's talk newbies a little bit and earlier you had a really good point about being able and willing especially as experienced people to go hey you know let's I have to really good point about being able and willing, especially as experienced people, to go, hey, you know, let's. I have to go back and watch my facial expressions. Let's talk about this a little bit. Here's one of the bigger challenges with this is that, you know, this whole scenario was two newbie couples going at it. I'm not saying that can't happen. No, and sometimes, you know what, what there are some couples when you think back to some couples that we got we all came in a lifestyle about the same time that we're still really we played with a couple times we're still really good friends with like really good friends with and some things we all kind of learn together. And here's what's funny. Most of us all had different shitty early experiences. We know one couple, the first couple they played with, right after they played, the guy committed suicide. And it was like, what the hell? But that wasn't even different it wasn't even no but it wasn't swinger related but some of the things were not swinger related but it was like holy fucking it it it fucked with them because because again they were they were developing a friendship our first swing experience was obviously not a good one with a couple it was not really a couple it was you know everybody's heard the story it's not was not a good one. It was with a couple that was not really a couple. Everybody who's heard the story was not a good one. Several, several. One couple that we're friends with, the one that left the party that we stayed at when we didn't communicate correctly, originally was with his boss and wife and it ended up going south on him at one point in time almost everybody's had you're going to have some of these types of experiences some of the values though we all were we all literally it's like we were like a class of swingers the newest class that came through and so some of the things we grew up together because by the time we were hooking up within that group and most of that group is friends still to this day we were all new and we were sharing stories of like guess what happened a couple weekends ago we were still learning you know learning curves as we went through one of the couples that we hooked up with you know uh they really hadn't had where the guy had an issue before and i was the guy that had an issue and and working through that and working through you know as as a couple and as friends so there can be a lot of advantages of two newer couples hooking up you kind of like you have a you're on the same page a little bit because look when you can talk about the fact of that you know we're new we have, we have no idea what we're doing, and Derek goes, we're new, we have no idea what we're doing, and now we're just sitting around naked going, well, this is fucking fun. Let's bumblefuck together. Yeah, yeah, and we're just rolling around naked, you know, fun together. That's awesome. And, wow, there you go. So, Mike KSN will be about our one-year anniversary. We've been lucky so far, far but we have done our homework that's very true and that that's one of the things you you the sometimes either by like we didn't have podcast stuff to listen to so we had to learn a lot of shit the hard way that's why we do this oh they probably did but we didn't know it existed but the sad reality is and then we also that whole group of us we also hooked up with some couples that were more experienced that were very cool to us and and did kind of guide us a little bit or you know i mean what they did was they didn't take advantage of us let's put it that way right and we learned from them also and then we also saw some of the other examples there are couples out there the sad reality is that prey on new people that's why having your fucking you don't have to have your every rule set in stone but that's why you can't do this adjust on the fly crap you you have to know that's it that isn't even like a minor rule
Speaker2:
or boundary that is like it's either a do or die
Speaker3:
I mean
Speaker2:
you can't that's mixed signals
Speaker1:
once that dick you can't unsuck a dick you can't unfuck a dick you can't unfuck somebody we're just going to try it once that once that happens it never goes away Thank you. unfuck somebody when that well we're just gonna try it once that once that happens it never goes away it never goes away all right so like dan puts rachel sometimes feels like no one will want to get to know us look here's the thing for us that wasn't as big a deal because we were in a sport fucking which there's advantages to sport fucking because it's easier there's some people we didn't know but some people some people we still couldn't tell you what their names are and whatever and we're okay with it but that's not everybody's gig but here's the thing if someone this is a hobby this still is a hobby so you have to keep it in that fucking frame of mind what did what did i tell you during dinner when you said remember that for later something about new people and worth it they might not be able to or they don't oh no no no what i said was that like with this couple if you're fucking doing this you still it was about communicating after the fact about how shitty it is just to blow out and not tell them what's going on yeah and i said that regardless if you're old enough basically if you're supposed to be mature enough to fuck each other people you should be able to at least say hey i'm sorry and i said if they're brand new they might not know to say something yes and that's a valid point and
Speaker2:
that's that's i don't totally agree with because well yes and no because they don't realize that now they're ghosting they don't think that they should give an explanation because they probably don't think it did anything to them yeah well and honestly they're obviously very unhappy with the decision that that they made in some way.
Speaker1:
So they don't apparently they don't know. We've talked to way more experienced couples than we have actually played with, including this podcast. Great to learn from others. Bad experiences than having to learn firsthand.
Speaker3:
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker1:
There's some huge value to listen and learn. You know, like, don't do as I say, not as I did, that sort of thing. That's huge, a little bit. A lot of times I feel like we just talk about the negative, but that's just for learning experiences that don't think that one person that's the only one that's gone through it. Yeah, basically, yeah. Here's the thing. We want people to understand you're not alone feeling like you're the only fucking person that that's ever happened to or the only couple that can be a real mind fuck you're not you know as a guy okay so let's talk about let's talk about dicks for a minute shall we ask me about my wiener by the way i just want to put out here having one ball is the greatest comedy source anywhere at any bar oh good grief you can make any group laugh when you talk about having one nut just throwing that out there but i'm only throwing half of it out there just kidding oh that was horrible so but i don't even oh but anyways it's like the guy i lost my dick for a minute. It's like with a guy, for some reason, when it doesn't get up, you're like, you're pretty sure you're the only dude that's dick hasn't worked when it's time to put it in somewhere. I mean, oh, I know, that's right. They've invented Viagra just for me. They were thinking to me that I was going to have my dick now. No, but at that moment in time, rational thought, just like the concept of when we first started swinging going, but if you have a bigger dick than mine, will you feel me anymore? No, it never goes back. It just stays that way forever.
Speaker3:
What? What?
Speaker1:
We become morons. We become, and it wasn't because all the blood rushed my dick because my dick wouldn't work. Thank you very much. I'll be here all day. I really didn't see that one coming. Miss Amanda doesn't look entertained, but she's entertained, trust me. No, don't. No, don't look. She lives for these moments in time. Sometimes you never know what's going to come out of his mouth. Quit hitting me. Now I want to touch you. Don't do that now. That's my cow having an orgasm sound. Just saying. As long as I'm not your cow. We were talking about pig slapping yesterday, and that just about got horrible. Anyway, the thing with this, too, is this kind of shit, there is weird shit that happens in the lifestyle whenever. So this, again, this is all you new people out there. Don't let some one weird experience totally fuck you over in the lifestyle. Because we, look, we've had the experience where a couple an experienced couple and we were experienced go in and basically the wife was pissed at the husband for something that happened the night before that did not in even involve us in any way shape or form at all we weren't even in that city that night took and purposely made it so that his dick wouldn't work because they knew we were coming out she was a bitch knew knew because it's been a long time coming we were gonna hook up purposely to because she was pissed her husband did some things to make sure that his dick would not work to fuck you not because she wanted to be pissed at amanda or me because she got fucked by me but because she was pissed her husband never even thinking about who the consequences were that the consequences were and and when we left and the tears all the way home that kind of shit it happens all you can do is to hope to learn from every experience and get past it. I mean, that's all you can do. Grow. Yeah. Especially if you're a grower, not a shower. Then you just want to grow all the time. Water me. Water me. Don't stick miracle grow in your penis. There's our public service element. It won't help. Anyway, so the thing is, there was going to be this great analogy I was going to use. What the fuck? Oh, I know what it was. Arguing about your point of they might not know what to say. My point is this. If you're able to fuck as as a hobby or think you want to fuck as a hobby you should be mature enough if something's not going right to have to say why to not just go running out of the room like a fucking psycho person and you said well new people might not know my answer to this is okay here's the deal if you're a new nascar driver right and you're brand new and you do something stupid and you cause a wreck and it kills another driver you don't just go well it's not a big deal because i was just new it's like no you still fucked up and it still had this effect so it's the same thing if if you with this it just really nothing is that really nothing no i don agree. Because you can't use driving a car. Don't you know that you're supposed to agree with whatever I said? Oh, whatever. No. Not in the least. No, when it comes to something and you're newbie, it's like giving... It's like... I don't want to be drinking. Here, you don't have your driver's license yet here's some keys and you kill somebody and you know it's a newbie they've never had a single experience I think we're picking horrible analogies yes we are I hate analogies it's like putt putt golf don't go in the water hazard I don't know what that means. I'm just saying. Yes, actually, Hillary put research before trying this very much. Mike put having self-confidence and a supportive partner is key. You don't get mind-fucked by others who are not or behave selfishly. Yeah, well, in theory. Okay. And by the way, Hillary, I just want to put out here because that's an excellent point uh that is my point for saying why people should use hookers because it's like if you rent a car before you buy it you know take it out take it for a spin see if you like it then buy you know you're buying the right model so you know if you try out a hooker is like a rental car there you go sorry go ahead This show is going to fucking bomb Like none other Go ahead
Speaker3:
I don't remember there you go sorry go ahead this show is gonna fucking bomb
Speaker1:
like that other go ahead
Speaker2:
I don't remember what I was gonna say
Speaker1:
what was I gonna say well I don't know I just had this thing with about mindfuck mics about not being able to get mindfucked
Speaker2:
oh at least the guy that was having issues at least said well what would help adapt is to switch
Speaker3:
I'll see you next time. At least the guy that was having issues
Speaker2:
at least said, well, what would help is to switch. Granted, we didn't know he was going to bail, but that's what you would do to get your mind back in it.
Speaker1:
Right, yes, exactly. Again, there was a lot of good things coming out of it. You know, this is like game film.
Speaker3:
Okay?
Speaker1:
Even when you lose the game, there's some positive points to take out of it you know this is like game film okay even when you lose the game there's some positive points to take out of it the final score didn't show that you won but you grew and you won it a little bit so the thing is is that is that there's some great things to take out of it doing the switch was a great thing asking to be sure asking about the rules was a great thing you know understanding being kind of cautious those are good using condoms those are all great things so there was lots of positives sometimes you'll get more positives out of a game that you lose than a game that you win if it went smoothly you just fucked everybody left well what'd you learn from that pussy feels good and dick feels good what you
Speaker2:
already knew that what'd you learn here here in this situation two people grew and you know what no one did sorry i couldn't resist two people grew and when you grow as a person that's what makes it all worthwhile what a why are you looking at me like that seriously no reason I'm practicing for when we open our own clinic oh clinic we're opening a clinic sure why not that's pretty solid fucking advice right there no I'm just we're fucking we try to make it look if you can't laugh about shit when shit goes totally south and uh totally totally uh sorry i just read a text message that came through on my phone from a distance and i instantly now am uh uh stiff i'm not a grown out of show now It. It's grown. It's grown. I'm like Jack's Beanstalk. Come see my giant. Alright. This show just went off the road. Now the rest of the time we're just going to talk about stupid shit because I don't think we can help people anymore. At this point in time we no longer have the ability to help anybody I don't think. Why are you looking at me like that? I don't. I like trying to think, and it just doesn't work. Okay, so we... I spent all day yesterday trying to keep up with relatives and drinking. Oh, my good Lord. Drink. Wow. They make me look like I've never touched alcohol by god we did all right i held i held my own i carry the team motherfucker oh and you were gonna go hit on some people for my cousins that was funny they were being fucking tool bags and it's like look if you want it you're blow get a blow job the drunker they got more perverted and i'll up that girl. You want a blowjob, I'll go find you a girl to give you a blowjob. I offered to help him out. I'm like, well, you're one cousin. Rings are bad, not black rings, motherfucker. Just saying. You got to know which ones to look for. Just saying. He was talking about the girl at the bar, and he goes, look, she has fishnets on. I'm like, okay. And look, she has this corset on it it has leather straps i'm like okay i'm like and your point is what well you know i don't know what she does for a profession i said i don't either but i like her outfit you know people that have way more it wasn't even that risque no it wasn't i'm like that okay well we know a lot of people that were that kind of stuff you look there oh you know what i'm gonna tell him about this this is what i'll talk about last part of the show so we stayed at a hotel last night and uh it was a great hotel that your aunt your aunt put us up in the hotel actually and it's a 21 over hotel we walk into this motherfucker and you only can be 21 over to be in that one because it's in a casino the shower was a huge shower with the big wall so and we even told them that we were going back after we left the bar to go take dirty pictures and we did because we took all these pictures you fucking pressed up against the glass like porn pictures the bed huge bed had like mood lighting above the fucking and built into the headboard we took a bunch of pictures there we fucked it was awesome i mean the room was fucking we all go to the room and they're like we're gonna go take a nap and they're like well did you take a nap i'm like no we had sex no so you had to change your shirt because I had got cum on your shirt for crying out loud. Yeah, you did. I didn't take my shirt off. I was lazy. It was like, fuck it. I mean, that place was awesome. Because they were making fun of you about like an erection or something. And you go, no, I saw that 20 minutes ago. I had one. No shit. Yeah. And they're like, Amanda already took care of that. Oh. Yeah, your cousin fucks like a boss, just so you know.
Speaker1:
And I'm not the only one that knows it. That's what I, which I didn't get to say that. I really wanted to, but you didn't.
Speaker2:
You probably could have.
Speaker1:
Not that early. They were still too sober.
Speaker2:
Did you see my cousin's boyfriend had a black ring on?
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
Did you also see me checking out your cousin's tits? Because I'd have fucked the shit out of her.
Speaker3:
Just saying.
Speaker2:
She's too young for you.
Speaker1:
Fuck the bull fucking shit she is. Let's do this. Did you also see me checking out your cousin's tits? Because I'd have fucked the shit out of her. Just saying. She's too young for you. Fuck the bull fucking shit she is. Can you go up a couple octaves? Yeah, if I can get in there. She was 30-something. I don't fucking know. I fucking... Look, she's not... She's your cousin, not mine. There's nothing... I'm married into the family. I can bang that. It is what it is. fucked her Chef Boyardee Beyonce or whatever I don't fucking care He was from They're from Seattle Yes they're from Seattle She'd have fucked me I guarantee She thought I was cool as shit She did She did She thought I was cool as shit Yep Cole the Cole, the life of the party. Yeah, still got it. Family reunion is never going to be the same. Just saying. What did you do? I went fucking in-laws. I went in-law hunting.
Speaker2:
You're talking to your cousin about Tinder.
Speaker1:
Oh, yeah, no shit. He has a girlfriend, but he talks about Tinder. He was so drunk. That what's so funny like this chick she was so uh you can see her underwear lines and we're both going underwear lines what's hot about underwear lines what like it just curved just right i'm like oh my god when you're when you're the female guys is like yeah we're around in bras and panties. It's like, that's fucking lame.
Speaker2:
Oh, that was talking about the pool.
Speaker1:
Yeah, that's fucking lame. What are you talking about? You need to come party with us, girl. We'll fucking, you know, we'll show you how it's done.
Speaker2:
Break her in.
Speaker1:
You know what? You think we're just cool old people to party with? You have no fucking idea. We're like, we really have to get home. We didn't say so. We could record our fucking sex podcast because because we needed the episode 160 of our sex podcast to get published today no we didn't we didn't add that no but i got to hear about a relative that used to hang out with a bunch of people that suck dick in a bar yeah no shit wait a minute i think we know them what's your last name again can you believe she was in the corner giving a guy a blowjob? I'm like, well, I'm down in a parking lot. We told the story about knowing people that had sucked a random guy's dick in a parking lot. That would be Miss Amanda. And about a guy that, because I'm telling the story about this guy that we saw fucking a chick on the drummer's pickup. Better if it's a pickup truck blocking the front door of a bar to go in at 10 o'clock. And they're like, oh, my God, really? I didn't tell them that that was me. I'm like, yeah, there's people fucking on cameras all over the place. They're like, oh, my God, I can't believe that. Wow. I'm like, it's fucking true. We have nothing but it's the truth and nothing but the truth. So help God I have halos above my head Fuck those fuckers are tainted so fucking red You left me a halo on my You came so hard on my dick You cleaned it up before we went out That's fucking That room just fucking Reeked of sex It was just like I'm like holy shit That's drifting down the hallway That's fucking I'm not gonna apologize for that We didn't stay on our diet tracking food But we worked it off It doesn't really matter So What was that Did you really flick your hair I did flick my hair because it's stuck in my collar.
Speaker3:
Fuck off.
Speaker1:
Leave me alone.
Speaker3:
I don't even want to.
Speaker2:
Shut up.
Speaker3:
That's it.
Speaker1:
We're done with this fucking show shit.
Speaker3:
All right.
Speaker1:
No, that's a great thing to go. So there you go. So hopefully you learned something. I don't know if you did not. Did we even answer the question?
Speaker2:
Yeah, they asked if it was them.
Speaker3:
Okay. What? What?
Speaker1:
What are you talking about?
Speaker2:
Did they do something wrong?
Speaker3:
No.
Speaker1:
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker3:
We are. Okay, good. Cool.
Speaker1:
Maybe I am still a little drunk.
Speaker3:
Don't know.
Speaker1:
Anyways, all right. So let's go back to our sponsors. Again, ASN Lifestyle Magazine. Three million swingers can't be wrong. If they are, they win because there's more of them than not.
Speaker3:
Anyways, but make sure you go get your tickets today. Don't wait. Don't delay. swingers can't be wrong if they are they win because there's more of them than not uh anyways
Speaker1:
but make sure you go get your tickets today don't wait don't delay are you waiting are you delaying quit it go get to www.asnevents.com uh that would be september 16th through the 19th we're going to be there so you know what that means drinking debauchery probably nakedness probably got Probably. Probably my dying ass will be fucking doing shit. So check it out asnevents.com get your tickets today get down there don't wait don't delay motherfuckers and remember you just listened to another one of the shows come on you need some swag swag buy some swag how about some swag? Buy some swag. Fullswapshop.com. By the way, we are adding another new show is going on Full Swap Shop in the next couple of weeks that just signed up and another club and an author that has a really good book that's out on Amazon is going to be a part of Full Swap. So we just keep growing keep growing we were showing now we're growing yeah come get fucked by us so uh you can also find us at follow us on twitter at truth crazy on uh youtube uh youtube.com backslash what's your instagram uh our instagram account and our pornhub account you can see miss amanda doing dirty things with her pussy On Instagram you can't account and our Pornhub account. You can see Miss Amanda doing dirty things with her pussy.
Speaker2:
On Instagram you can't.
Speaker1:
No, but on Pornhub you can. And send us emails at crazy.kazba at gmail.com. And check out our website. The salesman should have.
Speaker2:
We have one?
Speaker1:
The salesman should have talked about that at halftime. Crazy, K-R-A-Z-Y, Kazba, k-s-b-h at or dot com excuse me fuck me anyways that's it we're leaving with that being said do it the only way uh i want to the only way we can and the only way ever will and yes hillary it was you that i read the text from uh um
