Krazy Truth about Swinging #362 Is it being discreet or ashamed?

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Speaker1: Hey, kids. The program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey, you crazy motherfuckers. Welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth About Swinging. I'm your host with Mos Cole. I'm here with the lovely, lovely and itchy Miss Amanda. Hey. We're here to tantalate, titillate, and otherwise. There's a dog that peeks their head, and that's because it's going to go south in a hurry. This is Season 9, Episode 362, and I didn't look at that first. So you were guessing. No, I remembered. I remembered it. Ow, fucking eyes. God is my witness. Anyways, so we're here to tantalate, titillate, and otherwise. Quit shaking me. I'm fat and shit jiggles weird. Stop it. syndrome. Anyways, quick shout out to our sponsors. Fucking. Shout out to our sponsor, asmlifestylemagazine.com. 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Well, what about the swinging part? Anyways. So, the swinging part, we're in the Cassidy section. Ta-da. So, there we go. You have to watch strippers. All day long. It's really funny because I spend half the day filming people. Brenda missed the guy at the Orgy's booth. Yeah. They're like therapists for swingers and stuff. He's from Italy. It's not an orgy. They do cream stuff. And yeah, he lives in Italy. His name is Giovante. But you can hardly understand because his Italian accent is... That thick? Like, he's struggling with the American. How do you say... Yeah, it's an older guy, but I was like, well, that's hot. If I was a chick, I'd be wet. I'm probably going to come to Crazy Winter Nuts, so there you go. Anyways, so, okay. Great time, fun. Reach out to us. So, I was sitting there thinking, because, you know, I had a lot of time at the booth, a lot of people up and down on my lap and all kinds of fun shit, and then I get some time to just ponder shit, ponder life, life choices. Naked girls in your lap, life choices. Anyways, I got to thinking about something, and it's, and because, The theme this year has been shows that no one else, people don't generally touch on. And, you know, it's, we live in a world where, uh, obviously everyone knows discretion is a huge thing this morning, right? Don't, you know, we want to keep it, shh And I started seriously, conically, why? Why are swingers, why are we so adamant about that? Because some people lose their jobs. No. That's the bullshit simple answer. They'll be judged. They'll be judged. Right. They'll be judged. They'll be judged. It may make somebody, they may not agree with you. They may not like it. They may not. Whatever. They may think differently. It's not socially acceptable. That's all the standard easy answer. Okay? But I think it's bullshit. I think it's bullshit. Because think about this for a minute. Let's use a sports analogy. Okay? a great example. Being from Nebraska, a huge Husker fan. Right? Mm-hmm. If you go to Iowa, because there's a big rivalry between the Huskers and the Hawkeyes. Right. And literally, if you put up a fucking Nebraska flag or something like that, you're going to get shit. You will get harsh responses. Some people, which isn't fun, right? But you will get people harsh responses. It doesn't stop us from being diehard insert fan team named here, right? It doesn't stop people. People will go to Raiders games, the famous black hole, and wear fucking opposing team jerseys. If you go to Kansas City Chiefs game and you wear to one of their home games and you're the culture plan and you wear cultures, people will throw beers on you. They'll spit on you. They'll try to fight you. Even if you're little kids. But we still do it. Right? We don't any, you know, all those things that people make fun of us, people could judge us. There are people that have been forced to celebrate certain sports teams at their jobs. When you were in school, when you were a little kid, little, little, what state did you live in? I spent a year and a half, two years in Oklahoma. And you were, and it was a sooner country, right? Yeah, we lived in Norman. In Norman, home of the Sooners. And in school. I knew. Well, I'll just explain it. I knew absolutely nothing about football because I was all in whopping third grade. I didn't care. My parents didn't watch football. It wasn't a thing growing up. So one time they handed us sheets to color and it was a fucking football helmet. And I'm like, well, I don't know what color. What do you color it? So I just started coloring it green and different colors, and I was made fun of because I didn't paint color red with crayons. I'm like going, well, why did you color it that color? I said, well, because I like that color. Why not? And then I was made fun of, and then I felt horribly embarrassed, and I'm just like, okay, well, okay, we won't do that again. You can go to another school, another state like Colorado, for example. If you wear Huskers, there are people that have their cars, keyed, literally attacked. But does it stop us from doing it? No. It's something as little as sports. Okay? So all those, a lot of the same, the same logic of why we don't tell people about swinging, you know, why we can't talk about it, would apply in the sports and that analogy, but it doesn't stop us. Religions that way. People don't hide that they put up Christmas lights. They don't... You don't see many people that will have a problem saying, I'm going to church on Sunday, or I'm going to synagogue, or I'm going to mosque, or I'm going to whatever, even though we all know the religion. We're going to talk about religion. We're going to talk about church in public, right? Because it's a divisive topic because it can cause people to be angry, get upset. It can cause people to... Lash out. Lash out, not speak to you, issues of families, right? The whole nine yards, right? don't hide that part. We still, we're in our conviction. We do it right. Same with politics, same with our job, jobs, what we do for a living. There are certain jobs that are, that, you know, some people find mega offensive. Some people find it just a job, but we don't, we don't lie about it. So there are people that get shot at family gatherings every fucking year. Okay. Over. things that are way less controversial, way less of a big deal than swinging, but that people are so adamantly passionate about or identify so much with. And we say, and if you ask somebody, you said, walked up to somebody and said, you know, hey, you're not going to play with those Christmas lights. We're going to get fucking pissed. We're going to be like, fuck you, this is what we want to do, right? Or, hey, you're not going to wear that fucking Husker jersey here. Look, fuck, I'm not. And we wouldn't give a shit. So then why really, when it comes to swinging, are we so fucking secretive about it? Now you can take this a step even further and another analogy and go, well, it's nobody's business. who you fuck or what you do in your spare time. Right. Is it anybody's business who you marry? How many or better yet, kids? How many people have kids and if someone in their family doesn't think they should have kids, how many people take and go and don't have or go have a kid in secret? Right. And don't tell their family. And if they are sitting with their kid, go, oh, I'm just babysitting for a friend. Do we do that? No, that's ludicrous. Because we don't fucking care. But all of a sudden, when it comes to what we do in our lives, this one part of it, all of a sudden, we care. All of a sudden, we get all fucking... There's massive judgment with it. Yes, there is. It's like going up and telling, somebody, you know what? I'm a hooker. You're not going to get judged for being a dirty, filthy fucking whore. Okay, but here's my counter to that. There is judgment to that. But that's all bullshit to me. I lived for 20 years in a profession that had fucking people that, you know what, there are people that would have rather talked to you as a dirty hooker than me as a fucking car salesman. And if anybody doubts me, you're wrong because I had people from church. That wouldn't talk to me outside because you were a car salesman. And people that ostracized you. Do you remember being at the church helping out and somebody asked you how you could be a stay-at-home mom? And it was because I worked in the car business and then you were ostracized? They didn't ostracize my tithings. America is oddly conservative when it comes to sex. They are. But it's not America. And I agree with you. But it's not. Here's my thing. It's not their fault. It's ours. See, we spend all this time. You don't think it would cost people their jobs? Maybe. But you know what? Smoking weed would cost people jobs. They've been doing that fucking forever today. Being train wrecked drunk every weekend would cost people their fucking job. Or every night when they get home. Beating their wife or kids would cost people their fucking job. Just to stop people from doing it? Nope. Gambling. How many fucking people are Degenerate Gamblers and have been long before it was legal in states. But they don't talk about it. But it affected everything they did because you could absolutely, I promise you, yes, if you have a great swingers weekend, you're going to have a special glow about you. So somebody's like, wow, you're in a great mood. Yes, I am. Or you could go lose fucking 25 grand and have fucking people going in your small town putting up flyers because you don't pay your fucking bookie. He had that half of the co-worker. Not me, but a co-worker saying that they're going to kill your wife and kids. Guess what? That shows at work the next fucking day, too. And you know what else happens? The fucking bookie shows up at work and sits there and goes, you better fucking say something. I'm going to go to your boss and tell him I'm going to kill you. That won't happen with swinging. So the thing is, is that we spend all this time to go, they're friends from a bar. All the bullshit excuses we come with instead of saying, they're friends, we're in a group. we come up with excuses so my point with this is this why is swinging so dirty why is it so dirty why is it so dirty because it's not just sex if you have kids everybody in your family knows you've either taken a dick or you've stuck your dick somewhere right we all know it why is it so dirty and i maintain it's part of the reason it's dirty to the rest of the world is because we do things so shifty with it. Case in point, long-haired beard. If I walked into a store, ripped up jeans, cut off t-shirt, looking homeless, I go in to a store and I walk by something to pick it up and when I'm walking, I'm going, looking both ways, kind of looking down, kind of clothes and walk around that fucking store. At 50 fucking three years old, I will look like I'm leading a goddamn parade. Because I'm doing, I'm acting suspicious. I'm acting suspicious. But if I walk in, you want to know what thieves, good thieves do? They walk through the place like they own it. They don't, you can't tell they're doing anything because they don't trigger it. They don't do anything to show it. Do it with confidence. And the thing is, is, so with swinging, if we sit there and be like, oh, how do you know them? Uh, uh, well, uh, we're kind of like, how caused people to go? Cause if we knew them from work, yeah, friends from work. Shit. I know how to tell somebody to go fuck yourself. I can tell you, go fuck yourself. And I can say it in a way that you will say, thank you and think I'm doing you a fucking favor. how you say it. Right? So it's the same with swinging. Oh, how do you know them? What do you care? I mean, do you need a list of everybody I know? Whatever. I mean, I can get that for you. And laugh. And they'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, never mind. And kill it. Squash it. But we do shit to make it look so guilty. So why do we do that? So where this is all leading, and I know everybody's like right now going, this is the dumbest thing we've ever heard in their life, is what I think I think a huge challenge of the lifestyle is, is that it's not that everybody else will think we're perverts or anything else. It's that we feel guilty about what we're doing. Well, Scott says it's assumed you're cheating if you do it or that a guy is forcing the woman to do it. Exactly. And you're exactly right. It's assumed because you know what? No one will tell them the truth. Well, when I got into porn, someone asked me, was he making you do it? Here's what's so funny. Swingers are the perfect case and point for the stupidity of it all. Because half the swingers, when you said, when we started telling you that you were going to do porn, And I could list names. People that have been friends a long time. That when you were going to start doing porn, and especially when you go to the brothel, got all fucking judgy. Let me help you out with this. Let's go through the difference of how this works. Okay? A prostitute gets paid strictly to have sex with people because the person needs to be paid to get laid for whatever reason. Who knows what the reason is. It doesn't matter. A porn star gets paid to have sex. It's on film so other people can live off a fantasy. A swinger pays me to come to my parties on a fucking snowball's hope and prayer that they can put their dick or get a dick that they could normally get. Oh, some of them like to have fun. Right. I'm sorry. Everybody gets in the lifestyle initially. Nobody gets in the lifestyle. Well, then you're fucking me over because I'm not getting laid in our event. Oh, no shit. But here's my thing with that. And you're right that at some point in time, it progresses to that. But let's dispel that rumor, too. There's not a single motherfucking person that gets into the lifestyle willingly. Key phrase, willingly. What that means is not that they did it to humor their spouse, not that they were forced into it, but that they choose to get in the lifestyle willingly. Not a single person does it just to have new people. No one. Never happened. Never fucking will. Ever. No one visits a fucking... No one buys a porn video to check out what kind of hotel rooms they're looking at. They don't care. That's not why they do it. Everybody starts off to get in the lifestyle with the same goal in mind. Some sort of physical contact. I'll say physical because maybe if it's kink, it's different than an Intercourse, whatever, it's a physical contact. As they progress through, then it becomes about, it's fun, interactions, meeting people like-minded, blah, all the rest of the bullshit. But they get in it to begin with because it's for their fucking sex drive and their junk. Period. And the reality of it is, is that that's the truth. People pay people like me to go to their events because you're going to their odds of getting their junk touched. No, it puts everybody in the same area so you can scope it out to find someone you want to have sex with. Which ups their odds of getting their fucking junk wet. That's what they're hoping for. No one, no, okay, we all know you're not supposed to have expectations. No one goes to any fucking event and goes, man, I fucking hope and pray to make this the best event ever, that I don't get any fucking action at all. No one hopes for that. No, but at least introduces you to people for the opportunity to probably do it later. Not necessarily at the event. So, okay, so it's a grenade sex. It still ups your odds to meet the fucking people to get your junk wet. Swinging is not the norm. We're all raised to believe marriage is between a man and a woman to be together forever. And you're exactly right. But we were also, some of us were raised to believe that the Huskers are the best team in the world. Some people were raised to believe that, God, Iowa was, or that the Hawk, or that Penn State was, or whatever. And that, so, yes, we know what we were raised, but I guarantee if you examine your life, 90% of the decisions you've made in your life, although influenced by how you were raised, that at some point in time deviate based upon your own experiences. If your experiences were to beat the shit out or get the shit beat out of you, hopefully, hopefully at some point in time, you'll deviate from that. Some people don't because it does have strong bonds, but there's decisions that you make that are going to be different based. So why do people, why do people, what's their hang up on it? They're curious. What's our hang-up on it? We're hiding it, so now everybody else really wants to fucking get excited about it because they can't see inside. If you're walking down a street and you hear a noise in a building, right? And one building, you walk by, you hear it, and it has big glass windows, and you can look in and see what it is. You go, oh, and you keep going, right? And it's like, oh, well, that's whatever it was, blah, and you move on with your life. The other building you walk by, and it's some weird noise, but the windows are blacked out, you can't see. Which one do you think about for the next two hours? Which one do you have a conversation later on in the podcast? You wonder what that fucking sound was? I mean, my God, what was that sound? The one you can't see, and why do you give a fuck? Does it affect your life? No, but you couldn't see it, and so it's this insatiable need to figure out because you're thinking, You're missing something exciting. Was it gross? Was it scary? Was it awesome? Was it cool? Why do people fucking... Why are people so intent on prejudging the lifestyle? Because they don't fucking know. They don't understand it. Well, you know, think about it in terms of... No, through the years. More through the centuries. No one talked about sex. Your lecture about sex from a parent was extremely minimal. Did I have one? No. But you sure are good at it. I figured it out. But, you know, from the dawn of time, people didn't talk about sex or sexual feeling or orgasms or, you know, anything leading up to that. So it's almost like a forbidden topic. Okay. So actually, I get where you're going. Yes. It just hasn't been opened up for people to openly talk about it. In modern times, sexual awareness was a huge priority up here at one point in time. Sexual freedom, sexual promiscuity, and sexual activity was very much public, very much okay, very much accepted. Roman times, that's why the Roman orgies, the Roman baths, the whole nine yards. And then as we have continuously went through, we've created a new set of norms and values and whatever, and we've made it dirtier. And the U.S. culture has really amplified that up, right? Because the U.S. culture is totally different than the European. Look at cussing on TV, the difference between the European acceptable language versus the American acceptable language on TV or drinking, right? So we created this curtain. around. And so, which you're exactly right, but the question comes now is, at one time it was here, can it get back there? I don't know. The answer is, yeah. It could. When people think we want to have sex with everyone, that's so not true. Exactly. Very much so. They don't understand it, but because they don't want to, there's a prejudgment they aren't willing to let go of. That's true. Part of it though is, think of this, look at this analogy, full analogy today. Do they make sense? Yeah. Medical analogy. Okay. Okay. Here's the thing. When was the last time you went in to have a test done and they, you couldn't get results for quite a while and for even a week, a day, whatever. When was the last time that you assumed the best that you won? Well, you know what? But I think it's going to show that this pain really does exist. I'm just fine. When was the last time you did that? The correct answer is for I'm going to go a strong 90% of the people, if not more. Never. Why is Google's medical stuff search? Because we fucking mind fuck ourselves and we start doing it. And that's how you end up. I got a lecture about that today from the doctor. You cut your finger and next thing I know, I have ovarian cancer. I mean, that's how we that's how we get there. Right. So. The question becomes, though, we know where it's at. I mean, obviously, people are going to assume, people are jealous, so they're automatically going to assume, well. I don't know about necessarily jealous. People are extremely judgmental. They are. They're extremely judgmental. If it doesn't fit into their mold, then it shouldn't exist. Except, I agree with you, but can you honestly tell me, It's the assumptions because they feel dirty, just like all the swingers that are hiding, they feel dirty so then the answer is they're going to fucking hammer that it is dirty and that it is wrong shouldn't do that, it's wrong, it's wrong the reality of it is why do most people sound and say stupid shit around When I first came to the University of Nebraska, I was from Omaha. So it was 1991-92. It was the fucking old as hell. First time I came. And in the courtyard of a dorm, Harper-Shram Smith, there were three or four dudes that played football that were from Omaha and from other and from bigger cities. One guy on my floor was from Chicago. One guy on my floor was from fucking like Dallas, whatever, big cities. And they were absolutely, and I don't know why, because it's kind of funny, fucking with all these chicks walking by. Because these kids were like, like standing there staring like, and like knocking their hats off, fucking with them. And they, and they were doing that because these kids, they didn't understand. I had friends that had never seen a black person other than on TV until they went to college in 1991-92. And there are still people in small towns in the middle and in every state in small towns that had that exact same experience. So was it that they were, was it that the small town kids were trying to be judgmental? or were they just like... They were so unexposed that they didn't know how to react. And in turn, some of those guys from the bigger cities... One guy, a lot of times he goes, he had never seen so many white people in his life. He was like, oh my God. And when they actually sat down and talked and were honest about their experiences, it's like... Oh, holy shit. But they had to both communicate. Ashley, it's wrong because you are married and you share your spouse. Why did you get married? Because she was a good fuck. Because otherwise you're considered a slut. Larry, this country was built on religious values when the values taught through time as marriage is monogamous to one man and, and, oh, and one woman that teaches, teaching is still prevalent. And no one wants to openly dispute that in public to vanilla people. And you're exactly right. And there's also a huge part of it that comes into... Quit playing with the fucking hat. You touch your nails again, I will cut your fingers off. Oh, yeah. Okay, I won't play with my hat anymore. And again, you're right. But in 1953, Charlie Munger, who was the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, got divorced, lived in California, got divorced and got custody of his sons. It was unheard of. It was the kiss of death as a business person and a lawyer in 1953. 1953. Not that long ago. What changed is, is that people quit putting divorce in a dark little secret that it didn't happen. That's what changed. Now, I'm not saying run out and put up a huge sign in your yard that says, I'm a swinger. Okay? There's nothing wrong with it. I mean, you know, I had to tell my sister, yeah, we're swingers because she was accusing me. Because she was babbling about fucking stereotypes of swingers that she had no idea about. Well, and she was babbling about my brother. I think they're swingers. Might now. That's not how that works. Let me explain it to you. And she's like, oh my gosh, and turned purple when I said that we were. The people are just so sheltered. The thing is. Maybe that's what it is. People live such a sheltered life that they've never, that they don't think they know swingers, even though we know they're amongst everybody. Sure. We all thought that. Everybody went, Every single person when they first started swearing thought that. Yeah. Until they ran into their doctors, church people, their school teachers. The first event we went to, we ran into people from church. One of our admins had a house party, and one of our kids' teachers wanted to come over because he was a swinger in the group. We were all like that. Someone's uncle. Yeah, someone's uncle. Absolutely. I mean- Someone's HR. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, when HR, she goes, oh my gosh, she's in HR. I'm like, she's going to find you. She's going to see you. It's okay. She's here. She didn't just wander in. It's okay. Y'all just need to have a little bit of... The thing is, is that you don't have to advertise it, but by the same token, the bigger picture with this is swingers. Fucking admit it, because I know deep down inside, it's like that secret. You know, when somebody goes, hey, don't tell anybody. and tells a secret, right? And it's harder than hell to keep. Do you know how I know swingers want people to know? Deep down inside. Seriously? How? Go to any fucking meet and greet. Go to any goddamn swinger meet and greet. Anywhere in the country. Anywhere in the country. They're making out with other people. Everybody, it's not like we're all just sitting down to dinner and chatting. like you don't even have to know that they're swingers to go that just seems odd and it's not because they're just acting like two couples going out to dinner anywhere in the country we've seen it we've seen it when we went out east at events we've seen it meet and greets we've done we've seen meet and greets other people done we've seen it at bars oh i've done it fuck whatever and i'm not the only one people making out people doing you fucking name it you know and you see it everywhere here's the deal guess what it's hard to keep that secret And kind of, deep down inside, you kind of want people to know. If you ask people that are out, it's one of the most freeing things in the world. Because you know what? I don't have to worry about it. Whatever. Well, I don't go out advertising it. You don't have to go out advertising, but I'm just saying. But if someone asks, I'm going to tell you. Yeah. My mom still can't wrap her head around why would you let him cheat on you? Trust me. I understand. try to explain poly to your parents okay and i've been down that path and try to explain and and they had all they had all the typical questions that we have and they were also initially when they heard some things you could see that it registered about like fucking taking a stick and hitting them but when we were able to explain why when we were able to dispel the myths of we just fuck anybody yeah when we were able to do that it's not that you were going to convert that to start doing it. That was never the plan. It was just being honest. Like, this is who we are. It doesn't affect you. Don't worry. I'm not bringing somebody over to Easter and fuck them on the table in front of everybody. Like, I'm not going to throw her down and fuck her on the kitchen table. That'd be funny as hell. I'm not going to do that. So don't worry. I have to say your family took it pretty easily. I mean, your brother doesn't want to talk about it. But they were pretty, they didn't say It's not surprising. Here's the thing. Everybody thinks they're pulling this great fucking con job. My kids don't know. Oh, nobody in my work knows. Nobody knows. Let me help you out with something. The only fucking people you are fooling with that. The only people is yourself. Because I'm telling you, I have said in too many conversations and heard somebody go, Well, it was kind of obvious, wasn't it? I have seen it a million fucking times. What? You were selling a car to someone for a daughter. Oh, God. And she goes, oh, one of those friends. But to them, their kids didn't know. No. Our kids have no idea what goes on. Well, yeah, they do. Okay. I don't know if she's listening. We have somebody who, you know what? The conversation happened. I knew. that she was eventually going to shoot porn when she walked on Exotica with her daughter. Because there was no fucking way that it wasn't going to come out. Now, again, I'm not saying you have to tell everybody, look, am I going to go? My parents, there was a little bit of a reason I wasn't actively looking to tell them. I'm not actually looking to run up and tell them. No, they hounded. They wanted to know what big event we were having. Yeah, they wanted to know what big event. Larry, good point. We do not advertise it out of respect to our parents. Both of our parents are very, very hardcore. It would hurt them to know what we do. So we choose to keep it that way. We choose to respect their values. Which, and I think, no, and I know you guys and you guys do. We wear different hats in different situations in different places. Everybody does. Everybody does. That's just society. We had a friend. Who's your friend? Not my friend. Who's your friend? More your friend than my friend. He would not. He was in denial of this guy. Oh, yeah. That was from college. From college. Until he didn't because for his grandmother. And I can 100%. You could see it. He thought he was hiding it. But I know. Well, yes. But my thing is his respect and absolutely. Yeah. And you know what? And I think we all owe people the respect not to. And we know the people that, that it's not gonna be a big deal. And the people that are like, you know, parents, especially when you get to our age and your parents are older, it's like, yeah, you just, there's places you don't go. The average general people in the world, people that are around you, because let's face it, for the most part, you're around people, you're not around your parents as much or, or grandparents. But if my grandparents were alive, like I wouldn't have told my grandpa. That would not have been a conversation I would have had. And again, it's a respect thing. We just shot, you just shot with somebody who they said their biggest thing was their parents were sick of listening about it. They was going to shoot porn. They didn't care about how many shoots he had. And there is a respect factor there. But we're not hiding it as well to the rest of the world. I'll be honest. I think when you are dealing with older people, it's easier to hide it. Yes. I think part of it is, well, even with older people, I think that they have learned how to not see what they don't want to see. I'll give you an example. I got, my grandpa was in his late 80s, and his sister, his last sister died. And I took off work and went, To the funeral. Mm-hmm. Which is in, like, Oregon. Yeah, it was in Oregon. And I had one of the most uncomfortable trips I had ever had in my life. I got to here. Now, keep in mind, my grandpa was early 20s. He was born in the early 20s. Yeah, 23. 23. And my grandmother was born in 24. I got to hear about how by the time my grandma and grandpa first one on the first date that on their first date that my grandmother said you can touch my tits and that's it because someone else she'd already fallen with at once and she was another guy have sex with her again. This isn't small. Small. Let me reiterate, small town Iowa in a farm community where one of the farmers knew me when I got my car stuck in the mud because my dad had done the same thing with a girl years before. I got to hear that on the first date, on the first date, my girl was like, I've already bugged. You can touch my tits. That's it. That'll numb your fucking brain. I think that sometimes that generation. But you also got a lot more of his sexual... There was a lot more. A lot more. Sexual issues, erection issues. I think that they have learned... My mom and dad, I would have to say to my mom and dad all the time, do you really want to know? He would say that a lot. Don't... And we had an understanding. Don't ask questions if you don't want to hear the answer. Do you really want to know? And that was my warning. That was my warning shot. And then my mom or dad would be like, and they'd go, yeah. And if they said, yeah, then game on. Or they said, you know what? Right after a KWN in Omaha, we had the car loaded. We had to stop at their house to pick up something. They wanted to know what kind of party we went to. And he sat down at the kitchen table. He goes, do you really want to know? Yes, we really want to know. How do these people know? My dad started smirking. And we're like, here we go. And we sat there for a couple hours. Going through. And having to explain to it. They couldn't wrap their head around the polyamory part. Which, fuck, we still haven't either, so it works out. Right. Well, we know it, but we don't practice it. But, you know, it's like you're trying to explain the group and trying to explain all the different. It was entertaining. And before it was over, before it was over, my mom, before she died, Loved our group. Yeah. Loved our group. She wanted to come help at a KWA. She had just broken her hip. We're like, not a good idea. But because she got to then see, we'd had the discussion to get past the shock and awe. She was with us when we were driving her to your brother's. And we stopped outside of Ames at a gas station. And this guy walks by and goes, hi, Amanda and Cole. It's so great to see you. And we're like, yeah, it's great to see you. I see you too, blah. His mom's like. And we walk out. I said, who was that? I don't know. Okay. I said, he's part of our group. She goes, he is? My mom started to spot our logos on cards. Like, I saw a logo. So funny. I mean, but we were able, she was able to see the joy of honest communication is that my mom, of all people, could get to the point to see all the good parts of the lifestyle. Remember, we had a holiday here. Oh, God. And we had a curtain blocking off. Okay, so this is in our house. We had a curtain blocking off the studio. We called it a storage room. She didn't need to know one way to. She didn't write, so she comes knocking down there. She come down here. She wanted to see, and she goes, oh, and I said, would you like me to explain some things? So I'm explaining, you know, there's like a motor bunny sitting around. It's in a box. We showed some of the stuff people gave us. A dildo is like this big around. And she's like, oh boy. And I said, well, that's a motor bunny. I said, and Cole's trying to explain it. And I said, stop. I said, it's a dildo on a machine. It vibrates. And she's like, oh, I said, do you want to see it? No, no, I'm good. My mom wanted to actually help us redesign the studio. But the joy of being honest. is that... Yeah, yeah. She saw that swingers are good people. My mom, the group, sent her so many cards. But she broke her hip. It was incredible. And I know that not everybody's going to react that way. No. But you know what? Not everybody's going to react the same way. Not everyone's going to go, you know what? I'm a huge Bama fan. You're a huge Oscar fan. Good luck to your team. Nobody's going to react that way either. Some people are going to be douches and go, fuck you, fuck you. It is what it is. And never speak to you again. And so the thing is, is there is no general rule for anything in life that is blanket for everybody. But seriously, how do you know when your kids are doing shit? When they act shifty, they act sneaky, they act, it's something bizarre. Like, are we making it worse? If we can answer every fucking person that goes, oh, well, swingers, no, they don't. No, no, that's not how this works. I have some standards, damn it. Well, the thing is, is part of it is you're actually going to help them make for making an ass of themselves at some point in time because they're going to say to the wrong people. Or you never know. Some people are curious because of, like we talked about earlier, the strict way they They were raised in the absolute, very repressive or very subdued sexual reality of stuff. And so they're curious. They need guidance. They're asking for a reason. What's the worst way to learn about sex when you're a kid? Is it by a super awkward conversation with your parents or by listening to what people talk about? What's the worst way to learn about sex? What's the worst way to learn about being a swinger? Watching fucking porn? Or talking to a swinger? When I was in middle school, I had to have at least been 8th or 9th grade. This is how dumb Amanda was. Some guy came up to me. Do you squirt or cream? I didn't even know what that was. And I just kind of just laughed. Because what's your knee-jerk reaction? Ah, you know, I have no fucking idea what he's talking about. This is embarrassing. No, do you squirt or cream? Well, I just picked one. So I said I cream, which was pretty accurate. Hit it on the head, yay. Oh, okay. I still didn't know what it meant. And he probably didn't either. He probably heard an older sibling talk about it, and so I thought it'd be funny to say. I don't know. I don't know. I had no earthly fucking idea and I felt dumb. I felt dumb. It, it, there's always, there are going to be people. Of course, I think about kids learn a lot younger. They do learn younger. I, but here's what I think is funny when we, as we, we, if we continue to perpetuate the same old things, the same repressive concepts, the same, the same game. because this is where it's at now, instead of looking where it was. Why is transvestite porn and gay porn? Two big points to look at. Why? Why is that? I mean, if I have to tell you the answer, then never mind. Because they're afraid. People won't talk about it. They won't say it. A lot of people like it. Why is porn so popular? Why are we able to have, why are there 50,000 people that ran through Exotica this weekend? Why do we travel across the country to shoot content? And we've got, you know, Elm Eats, every sunflower, butterfly, honeybee. Why do we all shoot content? How can we? How can we? the thousands of other people, not including brothels and escorts and all the rest. Why? Because if we don't talk about it, it doesn't exist. Okay, we're supposed to be evolved. We're getting to the point of AI. We have machines that can think for you. The shit we can do and yet, what, really? It's just, at some point in time, it has to stop. I think it's become more open since we joined the lifestyle. And it's not necessarily to be mainstream. It's just open. But in turn, then the other part of this whole thing is to look. People have to look at, you have to look at yourself. And you have to do a deep dive on yourself. and legitimately, honestly, ask yourself, do you feel ashamed? Do you feel dirty? Do you feel, do you have hangups about, do you feel guilty after swinging? If you do, those are things you, that becomes a you thing. And you need to work on those things. Not so that other people swing with you, have a better So that you can live your best possible life. Like, you know, if you, every time you're golfing, then you feel guilty and dirty. I don't know why you would, but whatever. I mean, fucking broker, but dirty. Yeah, whatever. If you, if you feel that way, you need to figure out why and figure out what, what's making you feel that way and change it. Because you know what? You are not actually enjoying golf yet. And if you feel that way after you swing or after a party or after an event, you're not truly maximizing the experience of the lifestyle. In fact, it probably almost partially verges on not healthy. Like, work on yourself so that you can enjoy the max out of your life. You can have your best life now. That's huge. And that's what you have to be willing to acknowledge it. Instead of just, oh yeah, no, it's just social, everybody does it, social, somebody knows. Stop it. Just fucking stop. I don't advertise it, but I don't hide it. No. I advertise it, but I'm kind of a business. I mean, it is what it is. But you have to, yes, you have to figure it out. But the other part of it is, you owe it to yourself, if nothing else, to not be hypocritical about it. Don't fucking hide from it in every part of your life and then go out on a meet and greet and act a damn fool. Like, that doesn't, you know, you just can't. So there you go. Total swing of time that no one else covers. That's why we have so many listeners. I don't know if there's something in it. You got what comment over the weekend? Nice cock. No, about the podcast. I did not get that. Somebody listened in a different country or some shit. What was it? Oh, we had people. No, I told you. We had like 600 downloads. We were like the number one show. Like in Vietnam. Top five shows in Vietnam last week. Yeah. And Malaysia, Vietnam, and yes. We'll just go with those. There's another one. Probably like Cambodia or something. But it was interesting. to see it out. It's interesting. I talked to another podcaster this weekend, and I asked them, and I'm not going to say any other podcast. You'd know it from their outfits. Okay. You know, how they pick the topics that they pick. Now, you know, we don't want to say it's too complex. There's the problem. There's your sign. You don't want to deal with stuff because what, swingers can't, we can't, can't process complex shit? I'm pretty sure I know exactly who you're talking to. You do. Because he dressed pretty ugly suit things. Yes. That does not surprise me from them because I don't think they can handle complex. Yeah. No, but it's like, you know, really, I don't think there's just no, like, like. Swinging is, I believe. Probably 85% physical, 80% physical, and 20% mental. And I think that the 20% mental is severely neglected, which is stuff that would do like this. And that's the shit that can make your journey when you tap into that other 20% take it over the top. Places, who knows? There you go. All right, kids. Well, that's it. Yeah, we're here to be announced when we get this ready to get this shipped out overseas again. Just saying. They can get STD Hero tests there also. Definitely. Don't forget, get tested. Safety, safety first, 2026. Can we have badge tested? Huh? Oh, you say get tested. Get tested. I heard you say dick tested. Oh, no. Get tested. I can't hear. Whatever type of junk you have tested. And if you can't, get one of their tick tests. Just saying. Mind disease. STD Hero. Seriously, make 2026 the year of being safe or safer in the lifestyle. Check them out. You can get on Bullswap Shop and also on all of our websites, the Studio and Crazy Casbah. Make sure you check that out. ASNLifestyleMagazine.com. It's ASNLifestyleAwards.com. 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