Why do people swing?

"There have been cases of SMs telling wive's of couples that, if they were his girl, they wouldn't share them with anyone."

One of the many, many reasons I play with very few single guys is that without a personal, ongoing connection with a highly sexual woman, they are likely to have bad attitudes about slutty women like me. Life's too short for that shit. I'm much better off with a guy who loves seeing his wife have sex with other people and thinks it's perfectly normal for women to want multiple partners.

While I wouldn't exclude a single from the "swinging group" just because they were single, there are singles that are definitely not swingers. There have been cases of SMs telling wive's of couples that, if they were his girl, they wouldn't share them with anyone.

If we had an SM voice that and we found out, that would be the last time they would be playing with us. It's a suck attitude.

Meh.

The couples only, plus swapping being a requirement, along with the '...but singles have nothing to trade' nonsense is silly, as it means no one in a threesome is swinging, but if the third's partner joins them they all are. I'm all for fine distinctions in some areas, but when it's trying to define in-group vs. out-group in a way that makes regular participants out-group, it's gatekeeping.

OEC, sincere apology. Catch ya on a thread down the line.

I have seen one slang definition of swinging as "the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually." That could open it up to other than couples.

ww w.dictionary. com/browse/swinging

It was a response to someone you either have blocked or who has blocked you.

“ Regarding gatekeeping. Meh. I don't think that saying definitionally swingers are coupled is gatekeeping. It doesn't prohibit anyone from group play.”

Not even trying to be a jerk here, but I don’t see you chatting with anybody else on this thread, so I’ll assume it’s directed towards the conversation we’re having. I have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. What does the gatekeeper have to do with whether singles are swingers by definition? It’s just so far out of left field that it doesn’t make any sense at all for the discussion at hand. Maybe you’re chatting with somebody else in the thread that I have blocked. If so, my apologies for the confusion.

Regarding gatekeeping. Meh. I don't think that saying definitionally swingers are coupled is gatekeeping. It doesn't prohibit anyone from group play.

As far as that Molly whacko goes, I’m pretty sure we blocked her the first week we joined this site. She’s just another know it all that has no respect for anybody that doesn’t live by her rules. You know the type, the two of you should become penpals.

“ Is she married and cheating? Do you know? Because I don't know one way or the other. Her profile doesn't mention anything, she didn't say anything, so? And no, I don't think cheaters belong here, but I'm not alone in thinking that.”

I don’t know, and it’s none of my damn business what she’s doing. Did she message you? Proposition you? Direct any comments to you? Who put you in charge of who belongs here, on a swinger sex site? Exactly my point from the jump! GTFOH with that mess.

Thank you Ms. Molly. I'm seeing why you've blocked them.

Our experiences are similar to yours.

Is she married and cheating? Do you know? Because I don't know one way or the other. Her profile doesn't mention anything, she didn't say anything, so? And no, I don't think cheaters belong here, but I'm not alone in thinking that. I don't have a problem with singles in general. We play with them just like we play with couples. I do have a problem with liars and cheaters.

Very clear what you meant. You were telling the lady that her kind (in YOUR opinion) really doesn’t belong here and should be avoided. Exactly what I’ve been saying from the jump. At least own it. Says a whole lot more about you than being just a Cali liberal (hilarious that you think that’s an insult) when you can’t even own your own opinions.

The poster you're replying to got onto my block list fairly early for shitposting and being annoyingly persistent in that activity.

As far as happily married couples, my experience is that they make up the bulk of the couples who swing. And thank goodness, since they make the best playmates by far. With swapping being a key component of swinging and therefore limited to couples, eh. Leaves out too many people, including couples who prefer threesomes or gangbangs, to be useful, but it's a definition that works well as gatekeeping.

Oh for fucks sake. So I didn't put "potential" in my original post. I think it was pretty clear what I meant. Forgive me for not being perfect.

“ I'm not sure if you read the other replies, and if so you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but most people who swing are happily married couples. They are not here to get anything they are missing at home. Those who are, you'll spot immediately and IMO, should stay far away from because they are full of drama.”

Fudge, I’m trying to find the word potential. Hmmmm, the word potential would change the whole vibe of the paragraph and I just can’t find it.

Then searched definition of a swinger

swing·er
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noun
1.
INFORMAL
a lively and fashionable person who goes to a lot of social events.
"one of the oldest swingers in town"
2.
INFORMAL
a person who engages in group sex or the swapping of sexual partners.
"a twilight world of swingers and wife-swapping"

First site that popped up when googling the question about single men.

Swinging as a single man may at first seem impossible – there is a sea of other men, single women seem revered and rare, events often charge more for entry or prohibit you entirely - and yet the single man, if he knows what he’s doing, is among the best placed of individuals to become king of the swingers.

Every definition I see has some element of having sex outside of a core relationship and most specify swapping.

Correct, he is not a swinger because he does not have a partner that he swings with. He is just a dude who fucks a bunch. Swingers specifically are those who swap partners.

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Oh look California! Here let me toss out an insult...

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I said most swingers are happily married couples. Never said it was my job to tell anyone how to do anything. I never once said singles didn't belong. I did said there were a lot of "single" married men and women with potential drama but I never said they weren't welcome.

I have a bunch of shitty medical stuff to do today so I'm done.

I believe voyeurism is apart of the swinging lifestyle. There are so many variations that people have the ability to choose the swinging lifestyle that fits them best. Are singles swingers? This topic was brought up on another thread. Let’s take a single guy with 20 certs, goes to swing clubs, hotel takeovers, house parties, you name it. He’s not a swinger because he doesn’t have a partner with him? I don’t think the definition of swinger is wife swapping. I guess some folks will say it is, however, lots of those same folks will tell me the guy that tucks his penis between his legs and swims on the girls team at UPenn is a woman.

I would say they are voyeurs, and not swingers. To me, swinging is a much narrower subset of the larger Lifestyle spectrum.

You’re not really too annoying, no worries. To follow the same lead, couples that partake in the voyeur side of swinging are not swingers? We have 3 options, on this site anyway, full, soft and watch. Are those that only click the last box not swingers?