These days, I drink for taste. I actually prefer NOT to taste any alcohol. If someone made a drink that strong, I'd ask for another glass with nothing but mixer to dilute it. Basically I'd make 2 or 3 drinks out of the one.
Some drinks, like pina coladas for example, can hide a world of sin. So if you're actually tasting the rum in one of those, it was likely made strong and/or had some very dark flavored rum in it.
“They mixed the drinks very heavy, and after a few sips out of the glass they "dumped" more alcohol on top. Who the hell tends bar like that?“
When a bar service caters an event, sometimes they get paid for all the alcohol and a percentage based on how much alcohol they served. So they tend to mix drinks a bit heavier than someone who is selling cocktails one-at-a-time. The one time I got absolutely knee-walking drunk, it was at a corporate event, and the bartender was serving cocktails in red solo cups. I got horribly wasted on cosmos and piña coladas. Barfed for five hours straight.
GETTING DRUNK: We attended a bar take over in Wisconsin years back. Cost $40.00 per couple. The hosts made a lot of money off the couples. WE got drunk as hell, not by choice, but at the discretion of the bar tender. They mixed the drinks very heavy, and after a few sips out of the glass they "dumped" more alcohol on top. Who the hell tends bar like that? I never did. so as a result of this fiasco we ended up paying $150 for the hotel, $40 for the take over, another $80 for food. So Short of $300 to get so drunk and pass out no sex and hang over. We are on a diet so we do not drink a drop of alcohol now. It is great to be sober when we play and feel good when we wake up the next day. IN FACT we are really put off by people that drink too much, they tend to get loud, obnoxious and irritating. We are here for friendship and continuous sex, and take the lifestyle serious.
“ I drink very little, mostly because I have zero interest in ever again being drunk or having a hangover”
I was 36 the first time I ever got truly drunk. The demon rum had his way with me. I’ll never drink at an open bar again.
“Lechery, sir, it provokes, and unprovokes; it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance: therefore, much drink may be said to be an equivocator with lechery: it makes him, and it mars him; it sets him on, and it takes him off; it persuades him, and disheartens him; makes him stand to, and not stand to; in conclusion, equivocates him in a sleep, and, giving him the lie, leaves him.” – Porter, from Macbeth, Act II, Scene 3
"It's not because I'm a very light drinker, it's because I want informed, enthusiastic consent, which you can't get from impaired people, and everyone displays impairment differently"
This might be the truest thing I've ever read in the forums.
Based on the responses so far, I'd say we most align with Mayhem.
At the weekend takeover events it is best to alternate water in between drinks.
I drink very little, mostly because I have zero interest in ever again being drunk or having a hangover (I was 14 and once was enough), plus my body is pretty sure alcohol is a poison and reacts accordingly. No problem with others drinking, but sex is off the table if I see them drink a fair amount or they show any effects. It's not because I'm a very light drinker, it's because I want informed, enthusiastic consent, which you can't get from impaired people, and everyone displays impairment differently (a longterm fwb can be shit faced drunk and the only sign is a slightly droopy eyelid).
Owcanplay
FYI I am an alcoholic so your teetotaler theorie is wrong. I have been sober for close to 35 years, I lost everything before I sobered up. I don't care if somebody drinks but I will not have anything to do with a drunk.
I have a feeling that if I ever met Mr and Mrs MAYHEM for drinks, it would be ice waters for everyone!
I have always had a pretty high tolerance to alcohol. Certain ones like gin hit me harder/faster, but if drinking beer, wine, rum or vodka, it's extremely rare that I'm going to get that drunk, much less wasted. I've run across a number of LSers like me at parties.
I could see light or non-drinkers watching me and thinking, "Holy shit! This guy is hardcore." For us, it has more to do with how someone acts vs how much they drink. In that sense, we usually fit right in with most LS party goers. If I'm making them, our drinks get lighter on the alcohol as the night goes on and I'll switch to coffee (if it's available) an hour or 2 before heading home.
Usually my aversion to drinking a lot is in not wanting to get up 4 or more times during the night to pee vs gettting drunk. The coffee certainlty doesn't help with that.
It's also why we prefer BYOB parties, because I hate spending the equivilent of a months worth of alcohol for a night's worth of drinking. I may be cheap, but I'm far from a cheap date when it comes to a bar tab. I can barely afford me ;-)
Owcangrace,
We agree with your way of thinking; the first drinks on us!
Cheers!
Partiers like to party. We aren't all drunks but we do have more than 1-2 drinks particularly when the hours go by. Hell 1-2 drinks at 6:00 and 6 hours later you are sober, actually well before that! Now the peeps replying so far are essentially the teetotalers or near teetotalers of the lifestyle. Reality is LS people are predominately belly up to the bar types. We see no issue with either approach provided the person is aware, non belligerent etc. If they are a lot of fun, laugh a lot and can still perform, sign us up! We are hardly in the minority but I will suggest the teetotalers are. Now am I suggesting the teetotalers are somehow negative as they have communicated drinkers are? Absolutely not! They are who they are and as you can ascertain from their posts quite stuck in their ways. I'd also add that science says they are making wise decisions ; however, our intent is to say it is a broader world and moderation in everything. Having more than 1-2 doesn't make you a drunk. Having to be supported as you leave the party room does.
I don't drink and the wife only has one or 2, less inhibit. Nether one of us will fuck a drunk
EXACTLY Sorillo! That’s a major part of the drama we refer to. Also, we’re of the mindset that if you have to get hammered to participate then you shouldn’t be swinging.
The other thing with overly inebriated folks is the issue of consent. No matter how careful you are to only proceed with consent, their judgement is impaired enough that you can never be 100% sure that the consent you receive is genuine. Because in that situation they may not be ABLE to give 100% informed consent. It's dangerous all around.
We don’t have many rules per se, but one standard is we won’t play with drunk people. It’s no fun and we don’t want the potential drama that may come with it.
Exactly SOC .. we limit ourselves to 1-2 and dont need any more.. we want the full effect of all senses, smells and touches without being drunk.. and YES it kills our workout regime the next day.. including heavy weights and cardio!
Agreed... I made the (over-drinking) mistake at my 1st SLS party event. I'm not a drinker to begin with, but my Bad encounter was due perhaps to nerves and Not knowing anyone. Since then I have a 1 drink MAX and walk around with a water cup afterwards (most people think I still have a drink). Has been working well for me so far.
We stopped drinking as we are on a diet. When we meet people that drink a lot we tend to get turned off. Some people really change personalities when they drink. We find it more enlightening to stay sober and drive home safe. Play more aware of the other person, and have more fun.
There's a big difference between wanting to have a drink and needing to have one. I suspect the title was meant to be more about overly drunk people.
The Mrs and I fall under the "wanting" category. Neither of us need to get drunk in order to get naked and play.
For me, my stomach will actually get full before I'll get drunk on what I normally drink at parties, which is spiced rum and diet cola. The caffeine in the cola tends to counteract the alcohol to some degree, but I have always had a high tolerance. People would be hard pressed to tell I've been drinking at all.
It's easier for the Mrs to go over the edge than me, because she usually drinks flavored vodka on the rocks. When going to a party though, we usually only bring a certain amount with us and if/when it's gone, then we're done drinking for the night.
There are those times though where something is off (dehydrated slightly?) and a lessor # of drinks will be felt more than normal. We have both gone over the edge at times, but it's rare for us and especially for me, since I'm the one usually driving. At parties, I'll switch to coffee (if available) or just straight cola an hour or two before we have to leave.
While women don't have the performance issues of men, they can get annoying when they drink too much. Some get overly chatty to the point that they completely dominate a conversation. To make matters worse, they'll talk over people just to repeat themselves. As is usually the case, few if any even realize they've crossed over a line, so they keep drinking.
I've done all of it... been wayyy too drunk and left her hanging, been snockered and f*cked like a pornstar... I've been sober and a bore while other times I was her favorite. I've learned though, that it's a lot more fun to stay inside of 2-3 cocktails rather then making it a dorm room pass-out fest LOL
I think there is a difference between an "alcoholic" and someone who may go overboard. I think that a lot of times people are just so nervous that they use the alcohol to lower their inhibitions. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't know how to draw the line between loosening up and overdoing it, leading to negative experiences for their partners.
We have had it twice where the guy got too drunk to perform. Once the guy ended up admitting he was an alcoholic which we understand and feel for the other jackass was too nervous and kept drinking. We saw it happening and let it go to see how bad it was going to get. The guy didn't disappoint in the laugh area but good lord he had no game in bed. Was sad and pathetic actually but we learned a bit on how to screen better.
Playing with a drunk is no pleasure at all.
