No one took your right. Do you.
"Most" nor "some" does not equal "All"
YMMV.
Like most people, I posted from personal experience.
Don't know where this poop comes from, but like your preference to say no, ditto.
Some may like to eat it, others like to start it. No thanks.
Enjoy your swing experience.
See, there's the rub again. I don't think I've ever run screaming from anything, least of all a homosexual advance, I'm just not interested in it. It just would not be a sexual feeling. Three's no phobia, no squealing, kicking or anything. It's simply not erotic.
Why don't I have the right to say I'm not interested without being called names? Why would I need to try it? Like Scamp says, do you like scat play? How do you know if you've never tried it?
Do you think if you tried a big mouthful of shit a few times you'd come around to it?
That's a good point, but it is getting to that point, that's the path one has to decide. I got there by being close to cock while swinging with my girlfriend.....Slowly got comfortable and all of a sudden that big smooth, shiny, lollypop cock looked very suckable.....MMMM and it was....Mary Jo
Lol @bucketlist
How do you know you wouldn't like a dink until you've tried one?
Sorry it was too easy not to...
"...most run screaming from anything that looks like a homosexual encounter - Whether this is due to social conditioning, their own immaturity or underdevelopment, or a myriad of other reasons in combination..."
Sigh. Or maybe they're just straight?
@Bill, I'll pass on the dink but a drink sounds good.
~Scamp
I agree with you, Mary Jo. As a straight woman, (dicks are wonderful) I've had a number of bi women/couples with a bi woman contact me. And you're right, if I were going in that direction, I'd start with a kiss and "go south" from there to varying degrees depending on the woman, the dynamic with the guy, and of course chemistry. You know, because my life isn't FUBAR enough.
To the point of the thread, men fear rejection. Couple this with the fact that most run screaming from anything that looks like a homosexual encounter - Whether this is due to social conditioning, their own immaturity or underdevelopment, or a myriad of other reasons in combination - it's a breeding ground for lies.
I'd rather brutal honesty from a confused person than lies from a person who thinks he has clarity. The former affords an adult discussion; the latter can pluck off.
The first thing a bi curious girl does is kiss another girl most likely... Kissing a guy is the last thing I would do and I'm bi....Mary Jo
“... a no obligation dink...”. Freud! Where’s Freud when you need him?
I saw what you did there, Bill.
BT
Some guys who are a little curious sometimes look for a girl like me explore the possibilities as they still prefer a more feminine look in a possible sexual partner.... Like it is stated in many different ways here, there are many different degrees of bi sexuality....Mary Jo
So maybe next time I get to NOLA, I'll buy you a no obligation dink. LOL
“There is absolutely no excuse for someone to advance on a straight guy without discussing it in the very beginning .”
On this (and most of the rest of your post) we are in complete agreement.
~Scamp
Those bi guys who make that statement are wrong and can no more know whats in the harts and minds of all, many or even some straight men. A few maybe. In any case, little boxes and broad brushes should not apply. As for the miss labeling or lieing on their profile, I can imagine some situations where someone may not want to advertise the fact they play with men. Perhaps a good friend on this site who is really homophobic ? So on this issue we should agree to disagree. In any case everything needs to be out on the open with the party they plan to meet before anyone wastes valuable time or effort. There is absolutely no excuse for someone to advance on a straight guy without discussing it in the very beginning .
I tend to use the same broad brush that is often used by some bi guys. In this case tho, I quoted the specific person I was addressing.
If you read through the thread, you will see a consistent theme. Bi males (and often guys who list as straight but are obviously not) constantly suggesting that straight guys would enjoy sex with a another guy if they were just more open minded and admitted they were curious.
I find that broad brush offensive and will continue to call out those who make those statements. I will try to be more specific in the future to state that SOME bi guys think this way.
~Scamp
"Bi guys insist that every guy is curious" I find this statement very objectionable and you have said this before. You can not pretend to know the minds of all bi guys, You certainly do not speak for me. I know dozens of straight guys who have absolutely no interest in "exploring their bi side". I have never believed they were secretly curious about homosexual sex. You and a couple others on this thread have a tendency to paint all bi guys with a wide brush.
"you may tell yourself you don't care for that, but eventually you might get over it"
Scamp, it looks like you might be busy, I hope you've had plenty of fiber.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or do you really not understand?
Bi guys insist that every guy is curious about sex with other guys and just need to be more open minded. I’m asking where you draw the line? If you are so open minded, is scat play or golden showers an option?
~Scamp
What the hell are you talking about Scamp? I don't believe anyone spoke about liking someone shitting in their mouths. Let alone doing it with you.
So confused...
“I cannot imagine never being curious. At what point in life did curiosity end and aversion begin?”
I know this is just more “straight baiting” but let me just say that the answer to your question is, when I realized I was straight.
Now there are a lot of things I am curious about; time travel, where to take our next vacation, what our planet is going to be like in 20 years to name a few but one thing I have no curiosity about is what it would be like to have sex with a man.
I encourage everyone to explore their sexuality in whatever ways you choose with the consent of your partner(s). Not sure why bi guys feel compelled to tell me what I should enjoy if I would just be more “open”.
As I’ve mentioned before, I know with absolute certainty that I am not interested in having a sex partner shit in my mouth. No curiosity whatsoever. So I ask all of you “open-minded” guys, does your curiosity extend to scat play too?
If not, what happens to your curiosity?
~Scamp
Can I hear a big AMEN! This is a sex forum, not a word parsing seminar
Funly,
I may well fuck the hell out of the sexy wife of a bi friend at a Halloween party tonight. Since they are a same room couple he and I will be quite close, literally as well as figuratively.
I don't like fucking pricks who transparently twist my words to their own purposed because of their insecurities or whatever.
Does that clear it up for you?
Seems simple to me. If you don't like bi men don't fuck them. Please tell me you don't like me so you can be sure you won't be bothered.
"... not everyone who "claims he isn't even curious" is, in fact, even remotely curious."
That's right. Not everyone who says they don't like dogs really might like a dog someday. Of course it's self fulfilling. Dogs sense your hostility and aren't friendly. So you can justify not liking them.
It's very joyous to be open minded about yourself and others and your interactions. It's scarier to think about some things than it is to be doing them.
@Bill
You can argue with the statistics on STIs if you like. It won't change the statistics. And the discussion about liars was about whether they are justified in their dishonesty or not, not whether they are bi. I don't find swingers as a group to be particularly tolerant of people who are not up front about their identities or desires, with their others, themselves, or their partners.
As far as what the programmers on SLS do with the info, I'm not sure if that was a joke or not. I could care less as long as they don't think their algorithms are better at understanding who I am comfortable playing with than I am.
When you look outside SLS or the swinging community, you find there are really only 3 choices, M, F, or both. Traditional straight people say there are only 2 choices and same with gay people. Bi people seem shunned by most. In the swinging community it seems to me that people need to find categories to place themselves and others into. This dose serve us well by allowing people to search for the like minded. When I read some of the posts implying that bi guys are more likely to be infected with something and that they likely to lie and cheat, it pisses me off and sometimes I would love to give such people some "come upance" This of course is a weakness on my part since I would do better to just ignore these bores. As for all the labels people have suggested, would be nice but can't you see how that would be a nightmare for the programers at SLS? So for now anyway bi and bi courous are what we have to work with. When making first contact, be sure to lay out your expectations and more importantly, your limits.
