Bi Sexual Men

TIME FOR THIS THREAD TO BE WRITTEN OFF. TOO MUCH BS FOR ME

"Lets face it, If you want the least risk for STDs then stay home, sit down and keep your mouth closed"

We don't believe in absolutes. We recognize that everything in life has a risk, however, just as in business or finances, you mitigate your risk by educated planning. For us, playing protected, sticking with straight couples/single + frequent testing have given us wonderful hours all while leaving home, walking around and keeping our mouths open and smiling.

Posting links here requires more twists than a pretzel, but if you search Google for study swingers stds you'll run into a study published on the results of 8900 plus consultations at STI clinics in one Dutch city over 12 months in the Netherlands.

You'll also run into a bunch of articles based on this research, including one from Britain's National Health Service. It includes the following information:

about one in ten (10.1%) heterosexuals (excluding swingers) had an STI

between one and two in ten men (14.2%), who had sex with men, had an STI

less than one in ten (4.8%) of the female prostitutes had an STI

just over one in ten (10.4%) swingers had an STI, with female swingers having higher infection rates than men

The study also found that among swingers increasing age increased the risk, with between one and two (13.7%) of those aged 45 having an STI and with older women swingers having the highest prevalence.

More than half (55%) of all the STI diagnoses in the over-45s were made in swingers, compared with about one-third (31%) in gay men. However, on average, other groups tended to be younger than swingers, whose average age was 43 years, compared with an average 24 years for heterosexuals. Overall, only about 1,000 (11.7%) of the total attendees were over 45.

funlyfriend could you post a link to the study that said swingers have a higher rate of STDs than prostitutes? That sounds like an urban myth, but I would definitely like to see the study.

I would bet that most male swingers who are bi are oral bi only. Statistics are meaningful but you have to use some common sense. It's highly unlikely you'll get anything from oral sex. However, unprotected anal sex is a different story. For example, there has to be blood to blood to seamen contact for you to contract HIV. It's having surgery and going into a hot tub. If you have any open wound it gives the virus or bacteria an entrance to the body. How often do you end up with a bloody vagina during sex?

If you are seriously this freaked out about getting an STD, what are you doing in this lifestyle?

Amen. This is the last time I visit this thread. It is just old. You all have fun with it.

Lets face it, If you want the least risk for STDs then stay home, sit down and keep your mouth closed

Oh, it actually higher std/sti amount straight swingers than prostitutes. Yes, it still does discuss bi/gay men too, but...

Yup, and there is a study that says swingers get std/sti at a greater rate than prostitutes. Guess everyone is taking a risk.

@Vegascplxxx: Good point, we can all try to be more honest. We still think that the scale of someone misrepresenting their appearance and/or age isn't as severe as not disclosing a sexual preference. When we meet the other couple/singles, it will be very evident if they look heavier and older and we have a choice to make then.

The CDC stats always lump gay/bi-sexual men into the same group, because they are exposed to the same risks.
From the CDC: "A much higher proportion of gay and bisexual men have HIV compared to any other group in the US. Therefore, gay and bisexual men have an increased chance of having an HIV-positive partner." and "1 in 6 gay and bisexual men with HIV are unaware they have it"

So a bi-man, you can't really tell unless they disclose that fact. Bi-men pose bigger health risk than straight men. We know we are going to get shit for saying this, but that is our stand on the subject. We are in the Lifestyle to enjoy and enhance our life, not to contract an unwanted virus.

We have a President who lied 10,000 times in his first two years in office. When you are communicating with someone online you have no idea who they are. I'm guessing that every person on here has something on your profile that isn't quite true, and most likely a lie. It could be your age or the picture that was taken 20 years and 30 pounds ago. When you think you are talking to a 21-year-old cute girl, it's more likely that you are communicating with a 300-pound guy sitting at his computer in his tighty-whities! Instead of pointing the finger at someone else for not being completely honest, maybe we should clean up our own act first?

I was just a commentary on how far someone has to go to disclose personal preferences...

Does this mean I need to tell everyone that I dress and live most of the time as a woman when i am not dressed as a woman????......Some things are not needed to be sent out to the world to see or be told until it becomes pertinent to a specific person or couple in this case...A little common sense and flexibility goes a long way in this crazy world...Were beating a dead horse......I myself like a straight guy... A lot of bi guys are too touchy, feely for me... Mary Jo

The previous 2 messages are true. That's why I openly say I'm bi and am married. Simple enough. If a couple has issues with that they know upfront and don't need to contact me. I talk to anyone with interest, meet for coffee with many but play with a select few couples

Couldn’t agree more B&S

~rabbit ~

While we discuss the bisexual lie , we should include the single guys who are really married guys looking for a little extra. The guys who say "wife knows and approves" (wife usually has no idea) or a classic, "wife just dose not understand my needs" LOL Also the couple profiles who when contacting you mention the wife is not available right now. I don't like that dishonesty any more than straight people don't like to be lied to. I know this is food for an other thread but it dose have some relevance here since a lie is a lie.

Why are so many guys claiming to be bi when they are really straight. They they are bi just to fuck the wife.

Oral: I understand what you are saying, but for a bi guy to hide the fact is very dishonest. It is about baiting single couples to believing something that doesn't exist. I have been lucky to meet amazing couples who don't generalize, but not all couples do. One bad experience with a "straight" single guy and, rightly so, they become cautious with future ones. It is tough enough being a lifestyle straight single guy among all the disrespectful, fakes and flakes around. It's been said on the forums before, some couples block single guys on the assumption they are bi because their profile says straight. So bi guys hiding behind that pretence DO hurt the chances of straight guys meeting couples!

If bi guys have the conviction and belief in their choice they need to be brave enough to live it and not hide behind a straight mask. It is a swingers website for boobs own sake, not some Sunday missionary school!

Oral - The problem that arises (no pun intended) is that closeted bi guys listing as straight need to act straight. No surprise dick grabbing during playtime. Sadly, we've had issues with bi guys listing as straight try to get with Scamp. It ruins everyone's good time as it brings playtime to a screeching halt for us.

~rabbit~

In my opinion, many men who are bi or bi curious are fearful of what others will think of them. It is "safer" to claim "straight".

Interesting thread! The themes repeat, and my 2 cents: I am straight with zero possibility for that to change. I believe bi men (singles or in couples) need to state that they are on their profile. Disliking the bi-sexual men lifestyle doesn't make me homophobic, it only proves me a man with opinions. No apologies, no explanation no regrets! If that offends some people, well, life isn't perfect.
I have walked away from "straight" situations where the husband suddenly "became" bi. They are dishonest at best.

I also modified my profile because certain people misunderstood terms like "sapiosexual" as somehow bi! Yes life isn't perfect but sticking to your preferences is.

I don't eat it or start it, I just flush it. There's just no interest.

I've been told that if you keep stirring it you might get to lick the spoon.

It was funny as fuk.

BT

Oh shit!! I usually proof read for spelling any word with more than 5 or 6 letters. I trust spell check to underline my mistakes, If that was a Freudian slip it was truly unconscious but I am claiming a missed key LOL

"Some may like to eat it, others like to start it. No thanks."

lol

Well crap. Sorry about the potty mouth.

lol

~Allen