Episode 112 - What's Your "Booty Count"?! | Does It Matter?!

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Speaker1: Living the Suite Life is a podcast intended for mature audiences only. We'll be using sexually explicit language while discussing many different adult themes. So if you're under the age of 18, please stop listening. Also, please know that our thoughts and opinions should not be taken as professional advice. We're here to answer your questions about the swinger lifestyle. From newbies totime swingers, or if you're just curious, we hope to engage you all and to encourage a sex-positive discussion. Now that we've got that out of the way, make yourself comfortable and join us in living the sweet life. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us in this episode of Living the Sweet Life. She is my beautiful, sexy co-host and wife, the lovely Trist. And he is my sexy chocolate husband, Lop. And that, ladies and gentlemen, was a ding of people saying, hey, we might just be joining the episode tonight. This is episode 112. We're excited to be here. We're excited to get back in front of the microphones, put the masks on, and talk a little jive with y'all. Right, babe? Jive? Really? How old are you? About 70. Creeping up on 70, I guess. At least my bones. They say that every morning. That's what they tell me. Your bones tell you 70? Yeah. Okay. They do. They do. But listen, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a fun one. First and foremost, today is June something or another. But y'all know what it is. We got to say happy Pride, people. Happy Pride Month. This is, man, this is a time of celebration of coming out and being your authentic self. And we always want to celebrate that. We want to, you know, salute the people who are out in the parades fighting the good fight, you know, wearing the fun tank tops and the nice little skimpy little outfits and waving the flags and all the colors, man. We are totally here for it. And it's a beautiful thing to see, man. Trista, did we do any pride stuff this year? I don't think we did any. I know I didn't do anything. No, not this year. We did not. We was kind of busy. We was kind of busy. Yeah. That first weekend in, what was this, June? First weekend in June. They was getting down in D.C. We had, we saw the parade. We saw people, we had friends go to all the festivities. Yes. And they had a great time. So, yeah, no, that's what's up, man. Love it. Happy Pride. Tonight, we're going to be talking about your body count. We want to see what, got, how many notches you got on your bed. What is it? Your bed? Yeah, you put notches on your belt. On your belt. Use them on your bed. Yeah, on the bed post. On the bed post. Yeah. But no, man, tonight's going to be a fun one. We want to keep it loose and goosey, have a good time. But first, y'all know what it is. We got to knock out the housekeeping. So for 2025, always stay tuned. Check out our Instagram. Follow us on all the all the socials because we're going to let y'all know when we going out and about because it's going to be a few little impromptu trips to Taboo to go hang out with Vicky and promote the club and hang out and see what's going on in there. But y'all know we're going to be in there promoting the Sneaker Ball for 2025. Trish, tell them all about it, baby. Yes. So Sneaker Ball 2025 is going to be September the 20th. It's going to be held physically at the Taboo Social Club. So what we're looking for right now, as far as the pregame before the event, we're still going to do the crawl between our two rooms. Sweet and Greek. Yes, the Sweet and Greek. Between our room and Paradise and Mr. Dependable's room. So more details to come about that. But we're definitely looking to expand it this year, at least in between those rooms and looking to have a really good time. And I can't wait. So if you are interested in joining us for Sneaker Ball, hit us up and we can give you the hotel information. If you need a hotel and you don't know what it's called please let us know hit us up on ig and our social media so that's right that's right we do it like this will be number four this is number four yes damn this is number four and number four i think it's going to be way bigger than any of the ones that we've done. That's what I'm saying. It's like every year this thing gets bigger and bigger, man. Like so many different sneakers. So many people from all over the place. It makes me feel so good when we're in there shoulder to shoulder with the sweet talkers, with the, you know, the regular patrons, the people that you see all the time in Taboo. You know what I mean? And bringing the party. Mr. Dependable in Paradise, they bring the party. It's always a good time, man. So if you ever want to go to a party at Taboo Social Club, this is the one. This is going to be your first one. Make this one it, you know what I mean? You don't want to miss the sneaker ball. It's always a good time. Always a good time. With that in mind, well, I guess a different little segue. So I guess we can go ahead and make this an official announcement. Mark your calendars, people, because Trist, her beautiful, sexy ass, she's going gonna be dragging my lumpy ass. No. More like he's dragging me. Not at all. Back to hedonism. That's right, y'all. Back to hedonism to kick it and to party hard with Mickey and Mallory for Casual Swinger Week 2026. We was away way too long, y'all. Yes, I'm pretty excited. I'm pretty excited to come back to be able to go on the trip next year to help with all the things of hosting, promoting, all the things that need to be held. And I'm looking forward to seeing more Sweet Talkers on this trip. Yeah. I know we weren't able to join this this year. Actually, it was this year. But next year, we're looking to make that trip even better to have more Sweet Talkers join us on the trip and having a great time. Having a great time with some lessons learned personally. Right. Yes. Yes. We we we got to figure it out, you know, because it was work. It was fun, but God damn it, it was work. Yes. That's what makes it great because we were able to throw ourselves into it right alongside Mickey and Mallory who gave that trip everything. And we heard that they gave, of course, like they don't fault it. They don't go backwards, man. They just keep getting bigger and better. And we want to get back in there, you know, get back into the swing of things per se. Right. And, you know, help them out, man. And we are super excited. We back in the gym. You know what I mean? We trying to get it right. And, you know, come the holiday season, we're going to put the turkey down. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We're going to skip that second plate. You know what I'm talking about? Don't mess around with the cake and the pies, Trist. I'm going to do all the things. No, no. Because we got to get it right. Because we're going to have sweet talkers coming back. Yes. We're going to be right. Yeah. And I appreciate all the sweet talkers that's been reaching out, asking us actually if we're going to be going back on the trip for next year. So thank you for reaching out because that actually got us to thinking about like, oh, maybe we should. We should go back next year. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So listen, if you know, if that's what it took for y'all to say y'all coming in 2026, let's go. Push the button. Push the button. Holla at Mickey Mouse. I think the only way that you can book the trip is going is through the resort now. Let me double check that. But I'm pretty sure that's the way you're going to you got to do it now. And that is March 14th to the 21st of 2026. I heard that on. Yeah. Yeah, That's they're going to be down there. So it's St. Paddy's. I remember that. St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, that's right. That's right. It's going to be exciting. It's going to be great. I think that's the earliest we've ever planned to go down there. Right, Tris? Like usually it's around Easter when we're there. Yeah. So it'll be a different little vibe. Hopefully we get get some good weather, too. I hope so. Because I think they got rained on a little bit. They did. All good, though. We saying bye? All good. I'm saying bye to people on Instagram. So please join us for the live show if you want to continue to have the conversation. The link is in the bio. Link in the bio. So my beautiful queen, baby, baby, we've been away from the microphones for a little bit. We've been a little busy. We be running around and kicking it, but we've been hanging out with our friends. It's not like we've been totally out of touch with the lifestyle and, you know, feeling good and feeling flirty and all those good things. But I want to check in with you, baby. You know how it is before we get into all the shenanigans, all the craziness. Got to check in with the queen. So my baby, I know you're texting the people on Instagram, but I want to know how you feeling. How am I feeling? I am feeling like I'm glad we're doing the show. Actually, I'm excited. I was looking forward to doing the show tonight. Just to be back on the microphones and kind of just talking through it as I was writing my notes earlier today. So I'm feeling like, you know, we've been having some conversations lately, like recently. And I'm looking forward to having fun for the rest of this year. We have a couple of trips, personal trips and lifestyle trips coming up for this year. But I'm also looking to build on like what else can lock interest do? Like building that more of a deeper bond with each other. And I'm looking forward to that. Like what can we do different board. Like, not different to make it like, oh, like I'm bored or something like that, but just make it better. No, I get it. I'm always looking for fine-tuning and making things better. Right. So that's what I'm... What? I just said I'm looking forward to connecting with you, Ward. Me too. And I thoroughly mean that. 100%. And I can't wait to do that. Like, we've been doing our date nights and stuff like that. I feel like that's been helpful. Yeah, it's been helpful, you know. But like you're saying, we can take it to another level. Like, let's keep on rolling. Let's keep on going. Let's keep on digging. Digging deeper. We've been married a long time, man. Going on nine years, shawty. Yeah. Together for much longer than that. I keep forgetting the numbers. Like, wait a minute. At least 2012, 2013. So it's like 10, 11, 12 years, something like that. We're going on like 12 years together, period. No. And I've known you half my life. Yeah, I don't think it's longer than 12 years. I don't know. Do some math. But regardless, I feel you on, you know, taking it a little deeper. You know what I mean? Having good conversations, figuring out, like, not necessarily fantasies, right? But, you know, okay, we know that you're a femdom. How can we do the next thing? What about the femdom thing can we do that's a little bit beyond the boundaries that you've already experienced? You know what I'm saying? We know that I've liked the zap zap. What can we do that's maybe a little bit more risque than the zap zap? What's the next level? Oh, look at that. We got some red. We got our homies red and ready. What's happening? Say hi in the chat. Hey there. Thank you for joining. Yeah. So, of course, I am 100% in on got to dig a little deeper. I will give you a million dollars right now if you tell me what movie that came from. You got five seconds. Yeah, what? Did what come from? Dig a little deeper. I don't know. Princess and the Frog. Oh, okay. You would have never got that one. No. I'm sitting here like, what is he talking about? Die Hard? I don't know. To my recollection, Trish, Die Hard was not a musical. It's a Christmas movie, but it was not a musical. It is. Thank you very much. So, how are you feeling? I am ready to party. I haven't felt ready to party in a while. Right? Like, I'm ready to, like, go out, hang out. And what sparked it, really, to be a hundred, was a naughty dream I had last night. I ain't even going front. I ain't even going front. We was together and it was just like a bunch of rooms and people just hiding in rooms and things happening and people like come on in and touching and rubbing and all those cool things. Kind of got your boy a little body working a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Got the blood flowing. So I'm like, damn, it's been a minute, you know, since I done got myself in some trouble. But you know, it's all good. It's all good. But no, that's initially like how I'm feeling. You know what I'm saying? But I want to piggyback off of your how you're feeling. So you got me feeling ready to continue diving deep with you. Of course. Of course. So we good now? You good? Yes. All right. All right. So, my wonderful sweet talkers, my beautiful queen, are we ready to get into tonight's episode? Let's do it. Let's go. All right. Welcome back, folks. Thank you so much for hanging in there for this episode 112. Goddamn, Tris. We really, people not tired of us yet? I think they might be, actually, you know. The Sweet Talker community is, it's a bunch of, like, loyal, loyal friends at this point. We're trying to build the community back up. But I understand what you're saying as far as, like, BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLAB get you all excited about joining us in this chat. Because, you know, this y'all show. We're just little mouthpieces for how y'all feeling. Look at that. We got Mrs. Playfully Artsy back up in the house. Hey, beautiful. This lady is gifted. I'm talking about we seen her recently swinging and flipping on a pole in a competition in front of a lot of people. Yes. A lot of people. Like, I don't know how you did that. that like we hey uh mrs playfully rc we we came a long way from messing around at uh hito on that on that pole see you you took it to another level i kept that shit right where it was i kept it right there and you took it and you ran with it and now you killing it so yeah yeah no yeah she's like a trainer all that nope i left that shit right there right where it belong right tris yes i don't even know bones me yes you what we love you back beautiful um so tonight folks we talking about a taboo topic well what was considered a taboo topic i was gonna say i don't think it's a taboo topic. Well, what was considered a taboo topic growing up? Right. And I think that's that's how we're we're opening the topic. Right. Growing up. How many people you had sex with was always like a divisive, touchy kind of conversation. Right. You would you agree with that? Yeah, it was kind of touchy. It was touchy go. The double standard was absolutely the standard. Yes. The double standard was the standard. It was the standard. This is how it is. This is how it shall be. Right? And what was the double standard for between guys and gals? Like girls should be very minimal to zero. To zero? I'm talking about, like, one hand, like, minimum. Uh-huh. Or zero. One hand of partners. Yes. Of sex partners. Until marriage? Like, so, you weren't supposed to have sex with practically nobody until marriage. That's correct. And then that's it. That's correct. Yeah. That was the standard for the ladies. Now, what about for the dudes? I don't think y'all had one. There was no number that mattered, huh? No. But I thought, I mean, you know, growing up where we grew up, hanging out, you know, where we hung out, you know, it was a point of pride for the fellas, right? The more, the better. Oh, man, you only had to say one time, you know what I'm saying? Or one girl, you only been with one man, you missing out, you know, you go to a party, you know, it was everywhere. Yeah, right? Television, right television movies pop culture it was about men racking up on bodies right and women you're shamed don't you dare you know what about like from um you know and it was it was names associated with the more body counts for for women right yes so you were a woman, and especially if you had sex outside of marriage or you had multiple sex partners, you was considered a slut. A slut, right? Might as well have a scarlet letter. Scarlet letter. I like that. Right, right. Guys were sluts too, but nobody gave a fuck. Nobody cared. It was a joke, right? Like, oh, he's a slut ass. He's a hoe. You know what I'm saying? Guys were called these things, but it didn't deter. As a matter of fact, what did you feel when you heard that a guy was a slut or a hoe or whatever? You know, I wasn't really around guys that slept with a lot of people like that. Not until it became a lifestyle. And as an adult, I didn't care. But I'm saying as reputation-wise, like in high school, we've all heard of some dude. There was a slut. I ain't messing with him. He wasn't my type anyway. Okay anyway okay that's what i'm saying so what was your perception of that person okay right um did he come off as like it wasn't your type so i guess it really didn't matter all right fine so what about from like a religious perspective uh like growing up and sweet talkers y'all know what it is any question i'm asking this lady y'all can answer as well please chime in's get this party going. What about from like a religious perspective? I think that that could be tricky because you have some religious, especially people that, you know, grow up on like count like con pounds where that it's like, you know, religious aspects of both people have to be virgins when they get married. So you have that aspect. But if you're just talking about the way that we grew up, then that you was just going to hell. If you had sex, you weren't married, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, the same. You was just going to go outside and catch on flames or something. I don't know. Right. Right. The same kind of idea was, was the cultural idea was prevalent. Like, you know, the more bodies you have, the faster your drawers going to burn in hell. That's correct. You know what I'm saying? Gasoline drawers was the thing, right? Yeah. And then you're going to have a baby the first time you have sex and you shouldn't have sex. Oh, yeah, it was all fear-mongering. All the things. So, and also back then, as we were growing up, people were very private, even lied about their number. Sure. Right? So, what, why, yeah, why do you think that was? Why do you think that was, like, the thing? For me, I avoided the conversation. I didn't feel comfortable with having the conversation. I'm talking about high school on up to early college, I would say. I just avoided the conversation. Unless somebody's pressing me. Even then, I probably didn't give an accurate number exactly. On purpose? Yeah, just because I just wasn't sure like, you know, if they would like just and I didn't have a high body count. I mean, I just it doesn't. See, that's the thing. No. I'm just saying at that time, I just wasn't, I was in very long-term relationships. So my body count wasn't that deep. But still, I still felt like I had to not really have, I didn't want to have the conversation about that. I'm not asking you. So why are you asking me type of thing? Shame and judgment, right? I mean, I think that that's pretty much what everybody's trying to avoid. You know, at least that's what we were trying to avoid in our former lives, right? Trying to avoid, you know, the shame, the guilt that's associated with what we were already saying. Like, you know, maybe like it's a religious background or it's just cultural. Like, you're going to tell a story in one of these episodes about how your dad views the difference between men and women and how he had a huge double standard as we were adults. We whole adults. Whole grown-ups. Like, all the way whole. Right. And we're both in the car. I don't know what your face, this is just a sidebar. I don't know what your face was like because you were in the back. But my face was like... Yeah. Like, total confusion. I'm not even talking about the more recent one. I'm talking about the one years ago. Oh, even then. Go ahead. You can tell that one. That's relevant. No. We're not going to talk because I know we're going to do an episode on that. But it was just total confusion about it. But no, I know what you're talking about. We got to give a little payoff here. We got to give a little payoff. I'm not going to do the whole on that but it was just total confusion about it but no i know we gotta give a little payoff here we got to give a little payoff i'm not gonna do the whole thing but a little payoff of her dad basically as we're grown adults right who reconnected she was staying with her dad for a little while okay so oh yeah you're talking about yeah yeah and basically and her grown brother lived with her dad as well. And we're, I mean, Trish. Yes, we're both adults. A divorced woman. And I was divorced, had a whole kid, all the things, right? So, and my dad said that Locke couldn't come in my room. Yeah. Just to have a conversation. Like we couldn't, I couldn't have him in my room with the door shut. And here's the double standard in that. We're in our 30s, bro. The double standard is that my sibling had his... Ten years younger. Right. His whole girlfriend. Who's a boy. Right. He's a boy. Yeah. He's a man. Spending the night. Mm-hmm. Every night as if they lived there. Straight up double standard. And he said. Daddy was trying to protect your body count. You can't come. You need to talk to him in the living room. Yes. That shit was wild. Yeah. But the double standard lives, I guess. It does. In certain generations. But we got a comment right there from Mr. Playfully Artsy. Yes. It says, yep, I was raised to fear premarital sex like it was the devil himself. You see what I'm saying? So, yeah, that shit is deeply embedded. So, again, I think that's the root cause of, like, why you didn't feel comfortable disclosing that. Somewhere in there. I can't speak for you, but I think somewhere in there could be associated with that shame and judgment. And like you said, you didn't want them looking at you differently, right? For me, it was kind of... I didn't really get slutty, right? I didn't get slutty until I had my first apartment. I had a good time. Yeah, a good time. So, but, you know, going through, like, high school. So glad I wasn't talking to you, though. Phew. Probably wouldn't be here. Yeah. But, no. So, yeah, like, going through high school and all that stuff, you hear hear all the stories you hear the people bragging and you know the locker room talk i hate all that stuff but that's what it was then just boys talking nonsense and shaming girls who they thought they knew about you know what i'm saying nobody knew what the hell they were talking
Speaker2: about um and you remember the american power Rule? We just talked about that. Yes. The American Pie Rule, for those who do not know, the classic movie. Now you should ask our friend if they've seen that one. That's a good one. That's a good one to ask. No, I'm talking about our friend that's just catching up on movies. Oh, right. That's a good one. Yeah, so yes, American Pie rule. If you remember the movie, there was a rule that they said, because all these adolescents were trying to have sex for the first time or whatever, or pretending that they didn't have sex. I think they had just came back from, I think it might have been American Pie 2. They were coming back from college. So they were catching up with each other. And one girl said, if a guy tells you how many people they've slept with, divide that number by three. And that's the actual number that people that they had sex with. And for women, this is what she said. If a woman tells you how many people she had sex with, multiply it by three. And that's her real number. Why do you think that is? I mean, of course, they were saying it as a joke. But why do you think that is, man? Because they don't want the stigma. Like women don't want to be labeled as sluts. Uh-huh. Yeah. At that time. No, you're right. I'm just saying it's just so unfair. It's just so silly. It is. It's so silly, man. So now, as full-on, full-grown adults in ethical non-monogamy, in the swinger lifestyle, whatever, however you identify yourself, the paradigm is now shifted, right? Like this whole conversation is on its head. So how is the stigma of body count changed in the lifestyle? Now that we're talking lifestyle. So one thing I think is that we've taken ownership of the word slut. Take that shit back. We got ownership of it. We got a sweet talker. Sweet talker says that studies show that the rule So it's just a little bit of a little bit of a little bit thought that shit was just like, no kidding. Look at you. Huh. I mean, my whole mind is blown. I mean, and this is coming from somebody who knows, like, you know, sex therapy and, you know, wow. So that that my mind is blown on that one because I mean, that just shows like really how deep that shame and that fear of judgment goes. If that's really how it goes, man. So and the bullshit that guys are doing right she man i've been with 21 youngins you know and you haven't even cracked double digits yeah right um that that's that's funny hmm a little okay i'm a little I was shook's crazy. Um, so then another thing, uh, how has it changed in like this lifestyle perspective, right? Have you experienced anyone asking you what your body count? How many people you've been with? No. And honestly, I didn't know until we did this little exercise. So I don't, I don't keep track of counts. This is not top of my mind, but we're going to get to asking some of the sweet talkers that. But for me, I had to actually work to figure it out. And it didn't take too long. It didn't take too long. It's not a good thing or bad thing, but we worked together and we figured it out. We worked together. We did because we did it by pairs. You know what I'm saying? Because usually we play with couples. We've had a few single ladies. We haven't had any actual single men. We borrowed a man or two from a couple. Right. But go ahead. What was you about to say? No, I was going to say in my number, like, so I have two sets, but the first numbers, it wasn't, I didn't count the women. Oh, gotcha. No, I was just talking about, like, actual. Penetrative. Right, penetrative sex. So I was trying to figure out, like, what that number actually was. And I even counted the ones that wasn't great. Because they count. True. Yeah. But even. Yeah. They still count. It counts. It count it counts we got a couple comments um it says oh not asking me how many but if i've encountered uh if i have counted before okay i want to know that have you have you counted no not until not you uh sweet talkers sweet talkers let us know if you've even counted how many partners you've had before. Yeah, and you know, for me, just really quick while we're picking up on Sweet Talkers, it wasn't because it's like a forgetful experience. It's just, I remember experiences more than numbers, I guess, if that means something. So it's not like a forget-all, I just forgot. It was a forgettable experience. It's not that. I just don't, like, number-wise, I couldn't tell you until now. Because does it matter is the overarching question here. Does the body count matter? I really think no. It doesn't. I'm laughing. Sorry to talk over you. I'm laughing because it's's like if somebody I'm picturing somebody walking up to me right now right and asking me the question like how many was my body count and I think I would laugh because I wouldn't be able to tell you that off the spot and they probably like oh she's a slut I'm like I For me, I'd be like, well, do you want pre-lifestyle or post-lifestyle or combo? Oh, my God. Yeah, because, I mean, I know. Okay. And I'm like, how much time you got for me to count? I'm pretty sure I know mine. I'm pretty sure I know mine. But we'll get there. We got some more comments. It is fun to work together in that topic. Yeah. Yeah. It is fun. It was fun trying to figure it out. Yeah. Because, nah, you didn't fuck that bad mood because I saw it. Uh-huh. Because remember you. I saw it. And then your leg went in the air. I remember it so clearly. And then I'm like, oh, but what about so-and-so? And he'll be like, oh, yeah, I forgot that you did that. Let me show you the picture. That's my favorite one. When you start bullshitting and I'm like, my ass here, look right here. Yeah, you did. That's your booty in the air right there. Look at that. Another top question. Go ahead or comment. Comment says that nobody has ever asked us and I would tell them to mind the business if they did. For sure, man. Because it don't matter at this point. It doesn't matter. All you need to be concerned with is if all these body parts are clean. That's about it. You know what I'm saying? If we clean and free of all the viruses and naughtiness. All the things. I don't even ask my friends if they've had sex with each other. Like, if they tell me that. What do you mean? Your friends have sex with each other. Like, if I have friends that are, you know, multiple friends in the lifestyle. Whatever the case. Okay. We're sitting at a dinner table. Sure. With a bunch of lifestyle friends. Sure. Right. Okay. I don't even ask them if they've had, like, playtime together or if they've slept together. I just don't. I don't ask those questions. I don't know. I just don't. No, because it doesn't matter. And it's like, you know, that shit will come out. You'll see some cross-flirting and be like, oh, yeah, they fucking. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't ask the questions? It'll come out. It's all good. And then we got another one at the bottom there. I'm heavily relying on your eyes. We did count one time, and it was fun to remember the experience. Still doesn't feel quite right to share the number. Right, right. It feels like... Okay, let me ask this then. Does it feel braggy? Is it a good thing in the lifestyle? Like, do people wear that as, like, a badge of honor now? Because maybe you're breaking away from that initial... Those initial feelings that you've grown upized in a way. You know what I'm saying? You know, I've had six black guys and, you know, four white guys. And, you know, I don't, that, that would bother me big time. That would bother me. Yeah, I mean, I can see if people are saying, hey, I haven't had an experience with somebody, I don't know, that is Greek or whatever. I don't know. Sure, sure. Something like that. Now, I can see that being like a thing. Like, you know, I want to at least have one experience with somebody or whatever the case or somebody from North Dakota. I don't know. Somebody from North Dakota. Something like that, right? I mean, that's still you. You're definitely fetishizing somebody. And I think the. That comes back. That goes to like the topic of like a BBC kind of thing, right? Yeah. Where I don't like it. I don't like being called that or used as that to check someone's box, you know. Don't tell me. That's the thing. Like, don't tell me. Not you. I'm just saying, like, if somebody is into that, don't make me feel like I'm that. Okay, got it. Don't make me feel like I'm that. Like, just treat me like a regular dude, regular person. And when you go home and you check, you know, put my name in your notebook, your journal, whatever, that's between you and your journal. Just don't tell me you're playing with me for that reason. You know, hopefully you figure out I'm a pretty dope guy in between. And know what I'm saying? And sweet talker number one. Hey! Sweet talker number one. What's good? Got you on a Monday. Isn't it Monday? Yes, it's Monday. That's weird as fuck. It is. It really is. But where were we, Trish? So yeah, like if somebody was like bragging on their number, that's kind of, that's a very different vibe. Yeah, yeah. That's a little bit of a red flag. I would just be like, why aren't you telling me all this? I don't want to know. Just let me just live and be. I mean, if you got more bodies, does that mean that you are then good at sex? No. Okay. Oh, that's a question. No, I don't think that more bodies make you better at sex. Okay. However, I think more practicing your craft makes you better at sex. Yeah. And I mean by practicing, meaning that you kind of take lessons learned when you have sex. And I think that that's the purpose at the beginning, right? So you have sex, I don't know, one or two people. You kind of start learning like, hey, I like my leg this way. Yeah. I like it when it go like sideways. Show me. What you like? You know, bend it over my head a little bit. I don't know. But even in the lifestyle, and this is what we were partially having this conversation with our friends the other night when we was on the Zoom, right? At the beginning of the lifestyle, it kind of segues into that a little bit. Beginning of the lifestyle, you're just out there, right? You're trying all the things. And the brain is in comparison to body counts because it's the same. Think of entering the lifestyle as your first time having sex. That's what I'm getting at. You start all the way over. Start from scratch. You don't know what the fuck. Your dick don't work. All the things. You are trying to figure it out. And you are trying all the things. Right. With just people and all of that. And then you start kind of fine-tuning it. Mm-hmm. And you start to be like, all right. You get your groove. Like, I really like this. I don't like that when somebody does that. And then it kind of like then it goes from there to now you know what to look for in people when you're meeting them in a lifestyle. So you're not as eager to just be just to just to have sex with somebody right i mean some people we're going to do this much much deeper in a future episode sure we're going to cover this uh we're workshopping a venn diagram or processes on our swinger lifestyle uh swinger life cycle yeah we work shopping that butping that. But go ahead, Tris. No, I'm saying it relates. No. You're right. We're going to do a swinger life cycle and kind of the ets and flows and kind of how you get there. Yeah. And how there's no real timeline for when these ets and flows actually happen. But I'm saying if for the sake of tonight's episode, that coming into a lifestyle is like having sex for the first time because you're a version to this. If you think of it that way. It starts all over. And it starts over. Now I got to figure out what it is I want, what it is I like. Am I just with my partner or do I want to experience it? And then you just start being out there like a kid in the candy store. You're just trying all the stuff. So you hit a phase where your body count jumps. Yes, that's correct. It just jumps. It spikes because you're excited and just like, okay, let's go. You know what I mean? So anything can happen. So, but there's no, there's no judgment. And I think that's the best. That's the freeing part. I think that's the part that we, we feel the excitement of like this brand new experience, this brand new lifestyle. Right. And we're just excited. We get to put all the bullshit behind us that we've grown up with all that stuff, all that cultural baggage that we, we pulled into like our relationship for one thing. And then into this lifestyle lifestyle you get to just drop it literally like as in the form of your clothes in some cases like when you're on vacation you get to literally drop that shit and just be somebody else and have fun no judgment body count be damned yeah let's go let's. Right. And then Sweet Talker says, I don't want to think I'm just a number. No. Correct. Right. And Sweet Talker number one says quality over quantity. Yeah. That's where I'm at. Yeah. I'm there. Yeah. No, she was responding to when we said, you know, if you have 180 partners, does that make you good? No, it does not. It doesn't. No, no guarantees there. You could just be banging and getting poor reviews. That's correct. Check your Yelp. You know, a thousand one star reviews is pretty shitty. Yes. So I have a question and I asked Loctis. It's a good one. Go for it. Let's do it. I was wondering, does it does it count? Does your body count count? Does it need to be complete intercourse? Yes. To be a body count. Sweet Talkers, hit us up. Does it need to be full-on intercourse for it to count in your number? What do you think, Trist? Let's let them answer, but go for it. We're going to get the conversation started. What do you think? Full on intercourse. So, I have a follow-up to that, and this is where I got kind of twisty with it. Because my follow-up question, I'll ask it so then I can actually talk about both of them at the same time. My follow-up question is, do same-sex count as a body count? Now, is that... Like, it'd be woman and woman or men to men. Does that count? All right. And here's the thing, because if you ask, if you answer the question to say that, yes, your body count has to be intercourse, well, then technically, if you're, if you're then say yes, and then you say yes to the second part that your body count counts, if it is same sex, which would be a woman to woman, right? Technically, I didn't have intercourse. That's what I'm saying. So it's like... Does a fake penis count? So... Then now we're getting Pacific. Yeah. Like, you're talking about, okay, was there a strap-on involved or was there, like, just any type of penis involved in it? Yeah, because you're not going to be able to penetrate anyone. And that's why we're having to debate about it. Or is it the double-sided dildo? Does that count? So, I want to know from you guys. What body count is counting here? Is what I'm getting at. You know, because I just want to know you guys like what what body count is counting here is what I'm getting at you know because I just want to know you want to hear them or you want to give you can I answer go ahead all right um yeah dog you got bodies man so we're gonna take that number and we're gonna multiply that times two. So here's what happened, right? So I'm sitting there writing my bullet points for the show, right? And I was like, all right, let me go back through and see what my numbers are. I had my numbers for before LS, and then I had my LS number, but then it got me thinking. Because initially, I'm, like, intercourse. Okay, cool. You know, ooh, here's my number, right? And I was like, but wait, does it count if it's same sex, too? Like, where do they fall in? Let's work on this criteria live on this here show. All right. Okay. Like, making out obviously doesn't count. It's not a body count. That's not a body count. No, it's count. That's a make out, right? Oral sex. No, I don't think so. So let's catch up on some sweet talkers because Mrs. Playfully Arcee says no, any sexual encounters is part of the number, but they do have an aster. And then it says that any human and any interaction counts for me. There we go. That's what I'm saying. Any interaction. Any. But that's a lot. We. Shit. And then. Interacting. Yeah. Sweet Target said it should all count. It should all count in my opinion. That's right. That's what I'm saying. So yeah man. Because, when you say the same sex count, you're talking about women. No, or you're talking about men as well. Well, it could be men, too, because technically, if you're saying the men, but they didn't have, like, penetrative sex, does that count? Yeah, I still count. I think that's a body count for them. Okay. And I think the body count for you, too. Like, if your genitals are touching, if you're messing around with genitals to the point of, like, excitement, even, you know, completion, I think that counts. See, and this is a great question for, like, just lifestyle people, right? You're just like, you would be sitting there on a trip or something and say, hey, does this count as a body count? And just watch people debate this back and forth. Yeah. Shit, you don't fuck me up, man. Because now I'm thinking like, okay, does a hand job count as a body count? No. What do you think? Well, um. A good old handy Oh, my goodness. Sweet Talker says that in my mouth is still in. That's right. True. So that counts. Okay, right. So I agree with... Right. I agree with Earl. But the handy. What about the handy? Good ol' handy. I don't see how that counts. And Sweet Talker says yes. Yep. I don't know if a handjob counts. Just like kissing doesn't count. That's just kissing. Yeah. That's kissing. That's just kissing. Sure. No. Kissing doesn't count at all. What? Hmm. Okay. Oh, she said, I'm not counting the handjob. No. Right. I don't think that counts. I don't count that either. No, that's like some flirting, little flirting. This is, you done fucked up the whole show, man, because now I'm stuck. Because that's good. Just because you're trying to shave off a couple bodies. No, so I was like. I don't like your math, the way your math is mapping. I am actually even on both sides. If you want to count the asterisk marks. That's what she said. Like I said, asterisk. Yeah. Then I am even on both sides. Wow. Okay. Okay. When it comes to that. Fair enough. And that was surprising, though, to me. It's pretty hot, actually. Yeah. Because I am terribly picky these days about, like, just partners in general not like on purpose it's just you know it's just what it is right I really go for the vibes and all the things so ain't nothing wrong with that I wasn't I was kind of surprised that they were even because I went all the way back like I went from the beginning and to now to like really think I was like oh shoot I forgot about that oh shoot and then just kind of like just putting them all in and trying to be really fair and realistic okay really think about like where you were the moments all the things so that I can write it out so yeah I was I was surprised that they were that they were even. Yeah. I mean, I really was. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty dope. One, pretty much a one to one. I want to hear yours. One male, one female. That's pretty hot. But the thing is, I counted even if I, okay, so here's how I counted, especially the same sex. Even if I didn't get anything from the person, if I participated, like doing something with that person doesn't necessarily mean that they did something to me. You counted it? I counted that because I participated in that. For example, give me an example, like a toy, like you used a toy or you just like- No. I mean like a counter. Yes, but not necessarily mean that they necessarily like, for example, like a penis was used on me. Sure. Like a fake penis or whatever the case. But you used a toy on them. Correct. And I may have used a penis on them. Correct. So that counts. Okay. That's what I'm saying. I agree with that. I agree with that. So those those are counted as well. Okay. Yeah. But okay. Let's again let's let's kind of bottom line this. We might actually get this episode done a little early. Look at us being efficient. I want to ask. Does it even matter? Right. Like let's go ahead and stick a pen in it and put a nice little bow on it. Does it matter? Like, um, someone's body count. If you, if, if we walked around and there was like, I'm having trouble with the camera here. Like it was just like a number floating over top of everyone's head. Would you, would you care what that number said? Would you be swayed? No. Like if even, and you're walking around with yours, like, you know, would you be swayed if someone's number was, you know, you know, in the, in the hundreds or something like that? No, I wouldn't be swayed. I mean, I've seen people play with six people in the same daggone environment. So no, I wouldn't be swayed. I mean, I've seen people play with six people in the same daggone environment. So, no. Yeah. I wouldn't be swayed necessarily. I think for me, especially in a lifestyle, I care about how often, how many numbers you getting tested. That's what I care about. Because if you're going to be playing that often, then how much are you actually getting tested, right? And if it's just once a year, then I may be like, alright. We need to up that. We need to get that number up a little bit higher. No, for sure. No, I don't think it matters either. Because it used to be some really bullshit stigma as far as like, you know, I'm kind of, I'm talking'm talking on lifestyle podcast talking about to be crass, but like the looseness of a vagina, right? It used to be bullshit shit about that, right? Like, oh, you know, hot dog down the hallway kind of nonsense. You know what I mean? I done had two kids and my vagina is still great. I didn't read my Yelp reviews though, so I need Yelp reviews, but I'm pretty sure my vagina is still great. Facts. I didn't read my Yelp reviews though so I need Yelp reviews but I'm pretty sure my vagina is fine. You need that? No. Pretty sure? No. I ain't no pretty sure about it. I don't know how loud I can say it. Can y'all hear that? Facts. That ain't great. No, yeah. But 100% man. Right. Yeah. So I think that's part of the bullshit that we used to hear growing up. Just stupid shit. You know what I mean? If you would like me to inspect your vagina to see, I'll gladly take a look. You expect a vagina. Yeah. I'll gladly take a look to help y'all out, you know, to help get rid of that bullshit. I will probably be cautious if it's too low because of lack of experience. Now, I will say that. That's a good one. That's a good one. Like, I would be if you're like, you know, you know, we married as virgins and we're here for the first time just trying to see um and see if we like the lifestyle i may be like okay so this may not work for me i'm here for it you always stay ready i am just not i want to be like i don't want to be the teacher i want to have a good time that's me you know i'm a teacher by nature yeah i ain't trying to do all of that and figure it out. I like to teach. I like to coach. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Let's talk about it. You know, I got these toys. I ain't trying to scare nobody, but you know, what's behind that red curtain might terrify some people. No, I'm not here for a long time, but a short time and I ain't got a good time. You messed up the same. But that's okay. Whatever. Says. We would not care. Safety practices determine how safe someone is. Yep. Not the number. That's correct. Yeah. And says. We don't mind newbies. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. And my folks right there. That's right. I need you to just do the things. Nah. Show them the things. Show them the things. Yeah, show them the things. You get to show them the things slowly at your pace. You know what I'm saying? Slowly. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I'm telling you, I'm trying to flip me some vanillas and give me some. Oh, here you go. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I am. If you, any vanillas who are out there interested, please hit us up at thesweetlifepodcast at gmail.com. He's not playing. He's not playing. He just said this like two nights ago. He's not playing. I did. Yeah. I'm here for it. I'm here for the rookies. I'm here for the newbies. He is. And I'm sitting there like, ah. Yeah, man. So, yeah, I think ultimately we beat this one to the ground, folks. Like, body count, it's a fun exercise if you can remember and if you can, you know. And like Mrs. Playfully Arcee said, it makes for a good conversation. Good, fun conversation. Get to reminisce about, you know, some naughty behavior. Even, again, you know, go back to your video log or your picture log and check out your library, your old spank bank. And be like, oh, yeah, I remember them. Yep. I promise you, I know, I do know the names of everyone that I've had sex with. Except for one. That's a lie. Except, about to bust you all the way out on the air. Except for one. And it was at a party and it was, you know, you're bouncing around and, hey, how's it going? And, you know, we get the no pants dance happening. And I forgot a name. I knew it at the moment. Did you? Yeah, I knew it at the moment. Did you? And another one I had to, like, look up. I did. I had to kind of look her up. But I found it, and I'm not even sure I'm pronouncing it right, but I got it. I'm sorry. Oh, no. But I don't think that's, you know, I don't think that's you know I don't I don't think me knowing is neither good nor bad right because we got people who go to parties we don't you don't ask no questions you don't want to know your name I don't want to be connected to you I don't want to be tied to you and nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with to you. And nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. That's what you down for. You going to your party. You they they meet the criteria for that night. Whatever your vetting process is that night and they make it. Hey, more power to you. Have a great fucking time. Enjoy it. Fuck them and forget them. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sure there are people out here who do that. You know what I'm saying? And that's, you know, ain't no shame in that shit, man. People go on these fucking cruises. It's like 9,000 folks. You probably won't see none of them. You might not see them. Not even see them. I'm talking about you might not even know them. And we're talking about like the day of Naughty in New Orleans where they had the black ass black room. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. You go in there and get the fucking. You don't even know who you fucking. Yeah. Excuse me. Let alone a name. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. No, you know, ain't no judgment. You know what I'm saying? Like, and again, bringing it back full circle. I think that's the point. That's the purpose. Like, I mean, not the point, but it is. It is kind of of, like, being in a lifestyle and experiencing these situations with your partner because you can feel, you can get rid of all that baggage, get rid of the judgment, get rid of the shame. We out here to have a good time safely. I'm going to point the finger on this one. Safely. Safely have a good time. Ethically. You know what I mean? Together with consent. I'm ready to party. You should put emphasis on consent. I did. Consent. Because that's a thing these days. Ethically. That's right. It should be a thing every day. You know what I'm saying? But all right, people. I think we done covered that one. Yes. That was kind of fun. That was a good job. Yeah, that was a good job. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Thanks so much, Sweet Talkers, for joining in. I love, Trish, when you look at the comments and you see all those laughing emojis, that didn't make you just feel good. Yes. It makes me feel good, too. It looks like my people had a good time. So thank y'all so much for joining us. We always appreciate it. We will talk to y'all soon. Bye. Again, we'd like to thank you for living a sweet life with us. To everyone who couldn't join us live in the suite, check out our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify, Google Play, and iHeartRadio. 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