Tuesday Talks: The Truth About OnlyFans in the Lifestyle

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Speaker1: This podcast is intended for adult audiences. Over the age of 18, it contains adult language and situations. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to us, and not of any employer, organization, committee, or other group or individuals. This podcast is not intended to be taken as professional advice. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe. Interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. So Lacey, people are asking, how do they get to go to a party or an event with us? They check out swingersociety.net, you create a profile, you sign up for an event, and you come hang out with us. Super easy. That's right. If you want to party with us and the other faces and names that you know from social media and TikTok, head on over to swingersociety.net. Can't wait to see you there. Hey there, Pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy and Southern Girl, and today we are back with another episode. Of Tuesday Talks. Yes. Talking Tuesday. You didn't say rendition. You changed up your wording. Was it throw you off? Yeah, a little. All right. You ready for this week's question? Yes. Let's go to the phone lines. Hey, Jen and Lacey. This is Jill from Texas. I was just calling and wondering if you would be willing to kind of talk about Lacey's OnlyFans journey. Kind of how you got started on it. Did it kind of start as one thing and then has evolved into what it is today? You know, something like that. Because it seems like, you know, you guys have said that you started the podcast and it's not and it's all kind of evolved. So I'm just wondering if OnlyFans was the same way. And if you have any tips or tricks for beginners or if you're interested, things, pitfalls, things like that to watch out for once getting started. So thank you so much. And I hope you all are having a great day. I can't wait to talk to her later. Jill. It has been a journey. That's a great way to describe it. A journey. Yeah. So Jill wants to know about your OnlyFans page. Yeah. We actually get a lot of requests for this. So if you are like a swinger that is against OnlyFans, this might not be the Tuesday talk for you. We try not to inundate our podcast with OnlyFans stuff just because I feel like they're two different worlds. Yeah. But it is a good format to be able to openly talk because we can't really talk about it. on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, anything like that. You get banned. This is really our only way to have an open conversation about OnlyFans, truthfully. And if you want to go back and search through the years, we've done a few podcasts, like hour-long podcasts. About OnlyFans. Yeah, where we talk about it. And there's one in particular that if anybody, because we do get a lot of messages where people are like, I'm thinking about starting an OnlyFans, what do you think? I always send that one episode where we We give you the statistics of how much you're going to make or not going to make and all those things. We really talk about all the good and the bad with that. It was like, should I start the OnlyFans or something? If that's what you're looking for, I would definitely go back and find that you're going to get a lot more than you will in a 20-30 minute answer here. This will be a good quick recap. We probably could spend an hour on OnlyFans. Easy. Dan was deployed in the military. For me, was like, okay, we were swingers before he left, obviously, and we had had a pretty frank conversation about the fact that we were not going to engage with anybody else, but we were also sexual beings, and we knew that, and we were going to have open and honest communication about what that looked like. Basically, we said, if you need to fuck, let me know. We'll figure it out together. For Lacey, there was a few couples that were semi-local to us here that she could have hooked up with, and that wouldn't have been a big deal, and really, for me, being overseas, you know, in the military, you're basically like, if you see a hot chick you want to fuck, we need to have a conversation about it first. Yeah. Right. So that was kind of like our thought process going into him leaving. Well, what happened in reality is I was like, okay, while he's gone, I'm going to get skinny and I'm going to redo this entire house. I'm going to rear and I'm going to, he's going to come home and I'm going to be a bad bitch and everything's going to be perfect. And I'm just going to put my head down and just like work my ass off while he's gone. That was my, my, So I was not thinking about sex. I was not thinking about any of those things. Because I knew that if I kind of went down that route, I was going to struggle. You, on the other hand, you were in a bougie. This is a bougie deployment. This was my most bougiest deployment. Yeah. So you weren't like roughing it by any means. And you were bored out of your mind and like horny as can be and driving me nuts. Yeah. So I'm overseas and I'm working. I mean, I'm working 12-hour shifts like seven days a week. Yeah. But what, Some people might not realize about when you're deployed overseas. Well, that other 12 hours that you're not working, there really isn't shit to do. You're stuck on a base. You can go to the gym. That'll kill about an hour. You can go to Starbucks and get a coffee. And that's about it. There's not much else to do on this little tiny base that you're stuck on. So he was driving me crazy, y'all. Now, the good news is I did have Wi-Fi access. I had internet access. And it was actually base-wide. so I could get on my phone at any point in time. You know, not when I was working, but any other time and we could communicate. But there wasn't much to do. So he was like, go on the back porch and make yourself come and video it and send it to me. And I'm like, we live in a subdivision and we don't have a fixed fence backyard. Are you crazy? Like he wanted me to. She did it anyway. I did it. But he wanted me to do all this like sexual stuff and record it. Well, I'm fucking horny. So like, you know, I'm a guy that doesn't go more than 20 miles. 24 hours or 48 hours without sex. So as soon as I'm over there for a week, I'm fucking dying. Like I'm dying. Yeah. So he was like, you know, driving me nuts. So somehow through our communication, he was like, this is COVID. This is like right as things start opening back up. End of 2020. Yeah. So he is like, let's do an OnlyFans because this is when like OnlyFans was like really popping off. Like when everybody was joining. it. And we were, people were making like a ton of money. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah. So he's like, let's make it only because honestly, like we were the swingers that were taking the photos. We were videoing ourselves fucking, we were sending it to all of our friends. Like we were doing all the OnlyFans things. Right. And now you've got about a month of you've been sending me pictures. Yeah. And so I was like, okay, fine. Let's do that. And really there was never like, we were never like, oh, we're going to get rich. That was never, ever, I thought maybe I would get my nails done and that would come out of OnlyFans money or maybe get my hair done or something like that. Or maybe buy some bougie lingerie or something. That's kind of what I thought our OnlyFans journey would be. Never thought it would be anything more than that. No. But Dan was bored because like he said before, when he wasn't working, there was just not a whole lot to do. Right. So I have about 12 hours, well, 10 hours a day after I go to the gym of just sitting around and not doing shit. Yeah. And so you, I guess, tell them how you came up with all, like you came up with the TikTok. So. Right. So when I started researching, well, how do you make money on OnlyFans? How do you get, how do you get subscribers? What kept coming up was TikTok. Well, think, and we're in COVID time. So TikTok was huge and brand new at that time. Right. We didn't really know how to use TikTok. We didn't know what the, how it worked really. Uh, and so I was like, well, listen, if you make a TikTok, you'll get some people from TikTok to go subscribe to your OnlyFans page. But we need a niche for TikTok. What if you made swinger videos? Like just videos about being a swinger. Which is funny. Pineapples and just, you know, silly stuff. Because I had already found my way over to like swinger TikTok prior to that. Which was like two people. Yeah, it was like two people. And honestly, not anybody that I really related to. Not people you would have wanted to fuck. Yeah, it was just like, yeah, it was just, I felt like I could, not that I could be like a better representative. But I could do this. If they could do this, I could do this. Yeah, kind of. And maybe even better. But never did I think that it would be a thing. I guess I just thought that only a few people would see it. So long story short, I made a video. I did a couple. I'm not sure which one actually. It's like the third one, I think, that we posted. We hit 11 million views. And so very, very quickly did everyone in our town find out that we were not only swingers, but now they follow the breadcrumbs and they found Now, we have an OnlyFans. And honestly, just like woman to woman here, I was more brokenhearted about the OnlyFans than I was being a swinger. Because I was, I loved being a swinger. I loved our life. I loved the fact that we got to sneak away and have naughty fun. And like, it was like our little secret. I love that. That was so much fun for me. I was more like, oh my God, they know I have an OnlyFans. Which, we weren't even doing anything on the OnlyFans. Maybe I was masturbating and it was some lingerie pictures. Might have been some videos of us fucking from that we had already. Yeah. And the pictures, I looked hot in. I don't know. I feel like there's been a lot. I don't know. I just felt hot and beautiful in those pictures. But for some reason, that really bothered me and that people knew I had OnlyFans. So we got pretty quick success from TikTok and pretty quick success from OnlyFans. Definitely not what it is today. worked very, very hard. So now we've been doing it for almost, probably four years, a little more. Yeah, pushing five probably. So it has definitely been a journey now. OnlyFans is our primary income. I would say the bulk of our income. Now, we do have Dan is retired. We have his retirement. We have some rental properties. I mean, we have, you know, the podcast now. Yeah, the podcast makes money now. So, I mean, we have a lot of different streams of revenue, but OnlyFans by far, OnlyFans pays our mortgage. It pays our car payments. It pays all the bulk of the things. And if you would have asked me four years ago if that was the case, I would have laughed in your face. I mean, I almost think about it now. Like, when I see myself, like, if you're watching me on TV or on TikTok or wherever Dan puts this, you're like, I just look like a normal mom. I have tennis shoes on, leggings, and a Dolly Parton t-shirt. Like, I don't look like an OnlyFans. A porn star. Yeah, I don't. I don't even feel like it. I feel like your average, like, mom. I would say 90% of the time. So the fact that we have been able to make the OnlyFans so successful is kind of mind-blowing to me. You've made over a million dollars on OnlyFans. Yes. Now, that's over four years, so it's not as crazy as you'd think. Yeah. But still very proud. I mean, I'm pretty proud of that. Now, we've definitely had quite the journey as far as we've had our content leaked. We've had it sent out to people not age very... I wouldn't say we were to blame for this. I mean, we played a role because we aligned ourselves with people. Another content creator put our internet or our stuff out there. Like without, you know, age verifying where it could be saved. So we've had to contact lawyers. We've had, you know, we've had people not want to work with us. I've had family members that probably don't want to have anything to do with me or friends not want to do anything with me because we have OnlyFans. But overall, I'm very happy where we are today and our journey. What do you think? No, I think it's been a journey. I think that's the right way to say it. I think we are the most comfortable we've ever been with being, you know, adult content creators right now. It's not an easy thing to do. Now, if Jill wants advice, I definitely would go back and listen to that full podcast. We really get into the kind of the nitty gritty about it. But here's the ugly truth about OnlyFans is most people don't make money. Yeah, it's a lot of work. And truthfully, if it wasn't for Dan, And we've hired people along the way, so I don't want to not give them credit. They know who they are. But if it wasn't for their hard work, I don't think we would be where we are today because I'm definitely not consistent. But, you know, it's getting there, responding to messages every day and sending out and always having new content and sending it out on a regular basis and learning from other people. It's definitely a full-time job. I think people think that being an OnlyFans girl or creator is just easy money and it just rolls in. Is it easy compared to working an outside job in the middle of the summer? 1,000%. Yes, it is. But you still have to work at it. It doesn't just come without any work. No, you're going to be putting... If you're talking about making it your career... Now, if you just want it to be a hobby, you can do whatever with it. But if you want to make you know, real life changing money or money that could possibly replace your full time income. It's a full time job. Yeah, yeah, it is. But I love it. Do I want to do OnlyFans forever? I don't know. I don't think so. Right. Do you? I think you could you are like, you have no issues being I have no issues. And you even said things like, oh, well, you know, eventually I'm going to get old and people aren't going to want to pay for it. Bullshit. Like there's that's all. That's just a whole other niche. You know what I mean? Like granny porn is a thing. Oh my god. You could totally, you might even make more money as an older person. And I'm also curious to see, because there's so many OnlyFans girls now that are like our age, are they all going to stick with it too? Like is there going to be, like is porn of women in their 60s and 70s going to be like more normal when this age of women get to that point? Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. But I do, the one thing that I am proud of is we get a lot of shit for being OnlyFans people and swingers. The truth is we were swingers for years before we were OnlyFans. We were recording ourselves having sex for years before we were OnlyFans. And there is a whole lot of swingers out there that record themselves and take pictures and stuff like that. So I think they need to stop and like look in the mirror before we judge others. Also, you know, I've seen a lot of backlash about like content creators coming to parties and taking over. and not fucking for real. They're only making content. That is further, what's the word I'm looking for? Very far from the truth. That's not happening. I mean, do people like maybe sneak off from the pool during the day and go fuck real quick and make a video so then they can pay for their trip? Absolutely, they are. But that's like an hour. That's not. So here's my problem. So even if you say you have a party, right? Yeah. And a bunch of content creators come. And when you say a bunch, it's never going to be more than like 10% because there's just not that That many content creators, right? And so, but say 10% of the party is content creators and say, and this never happens, at least not at our parties, but just say those content creators only fuck each other and they only fuck each other to make content. Yeah. Why do you care? I know. What is that? I mean, are you mad that you can't fuck them? Are you upset that like, I don't know, but if they're making content, they're making it in their room behind closed doors. They're not making it in public because they cannot. They're not making it in the playroom because they cannot. Even if they wanted to, they wouldn't have the and things. And not to mention, no venue would ever allow that to happen. So that's not happening. I think that's what pisses me off about it, is I think that's what people think is happening. And people spread that misinformation and act like it's true. That's not happening anywhere. It can't happen. OnlyFans wouldn't allow it. The venues wouldn't allow it. I wouldn't allow it at any of our parties. So really what you're mad about is these girls are going and having consensual sex with each other behind closed doors and filming it. Why the fuck? It's none of your business. I don't know. You know what I mean? It's none of your business. Who cares? But anyway, off that high horse. So that is definitely, like, you also have to make content to put it out. So finding, you know, time to go to events and have fun for pleasure and for fun, but also making content that is definitely, like, a slippery slope. But it's been quite the journey. I'm super grateful for OnlyFans. I'm grateful for all of you that have subscribed and paid money to I appreciate it. I don't know what else to say. You went off on a tangent. A little advice for Jill though. So she kind of said, okay, it sounds like Jill might be considering starting her own OnlyFans journey. So one thing that I think Jill needs to know, things to consider, if you're doing this, you're probably going to get outed. There's a high percentage chance. Do we meet people that don't get outed? Yes. But it's pretty hard to be successful. and promote it and not be outed. Unless you just somehow find a niche. One time I saw a girl that fucked tractors, but you couldn't see her face. Somehow she didn't get outed. I would say if you're going to do an OnlyFans, you have to be okay with being outed. Because it's a high probability that would happen. We have friends that have done it for years, and then three, four years into it, they got outed. If you're going to do it, I would be prepared at some point in time you're going to be outed. If you want to do it for more than just making like $1,000 a month or something, because you can promote on Twitter, you can promote on X, you cannot hide your face and all that stuff, and you might get away with not getting outed, at least for a while, but you're not going to make that much money, right? You're going to make maybe at most a couple thousand dollars a month. Now, if you're trying to make real money, replace your income with this, you're going to have to be very, very active on social media, which means you're going to have to be public about being an OnlyFans person, which means you have to deal with your family, your kids, your job, and all of that. But that's really the only way to be successful at a high level. Yeah. And just when you think, like when he's saying think about that, so just like a quick, because I want to give you an example. When I was still, I was still worked when I had my OnlyFans in the beginning. Somebody sent my company that I worked for screenshots of my OnlyFans and said that I was representing my company while I was making OnlyFans videos, which is laughable. They had to open investigation, which that meant subscribe to the page, watch the videos, and then make sure that I wasn't mentioning my company's name or wearing like a shirt with a logo. So then the company had to contact me and let me know that they had opened an investigation. They had determined that I was not doing that in the case of enclosed, but they had to let me know that they had done that for legal reasons. So just imagine going through that at your work. Yeah. Those are the things you need to think about. Right. So that's the kind of stuff that happens. And then here's a chance. You might go make an OnlyFans page. You might go public. You might start making social media. And you still might not be successful. Yeah. This is harder than you think it is. It's very hard. You know, going viral on social media, getting, you know, thousands of views and clicks and things like that is hard. It's not impossible, but it is harder than you think. I mean, we've been doing this for four or five years. We still struggle at times to do it ourselves. So it takes a lot of work and it is hard. So there's the possibility that you might do all of this and still only be making a couple thousand dollars a month and still not be able to replace your full-time income. We know several friends. We know several people that have started this journey and they're still struggling to make what you would consider a livable income on this platform. You can do it. And you can absolutely be successful. You can change your life. And I also want to just address a little bit these girls that are saying that they're making millions of dollars a month. I have no doubt that there are girls that are making millions of dollars a month. In most cases, those girls are girls that were already influencers with millions of followers that then went and got an OnlyFans page. Do you think? Most of them. And most of them have millions of followers at this point, right? Yeah. So you're not making a million dollars. You're not going to start this and start making millions of dollars a month. Without that type of platform. I mean, you need a multiple million follower type platform to do that type of revenue. So I think there is this misconception that I'm going to start an OnlyFans page and millions of dollars are just going to start raining out of the heavens. Yeah, I think there's a misconception that one, it's easy and that the money is just going to roll in. And that's not the case. It's not easy. It takes work. And then two, you have to promote it to get people to come to it. I mean, people give us a lot of shit about OnlyFans. But truthfully, without OnlyFans, there is no swing nation, right? We would have to get jobs, which means we would have to censor ourselves. We wouldn't be able to share our stories. We wouldn't be able to advocate for this community. We wouldn't be able to be a loud and proud voice for swinging. We could probably do it anonymously and then hope that y'all still come and find it. Never on this scale. The only reason we're able to have this platform, the only reason we're able to be as loud and out there as we are, is because we have basically, financial backing that we don't need anybody else to tell us how to live our lives or what to do. And unfortunately, today, most people, your employer determines how you live your life in a lot of ways. So I'm thankful for that. And if you are able to do this and be successful at it, the freedom that you feel from that. If we don't want to work today, we don't have to work today. If Lacey's mom is feeling sick and needs to go to the hospital and we need to take today completely off, We can do that. We don't answer to nobody. Which has been like, was a huge blessing when my parents got sick and we could literally drop everything and go and be by them. We had to figure out a new way to make everything work and we did and we figured it out. But because we had this platform, we were able to do that. I'm super grateful for that. Yeah. And the nice thing is we can take a week off and we're still making it. Once you get that system churning, It's making money while you're not working. It's making money while you're on vacation. Once you can get those algorithms working and that money coming in, it gives you a lot of freedom that I don't know how you would get any other way. That is super rewarding. Jill, if this is something you're considering. I hope it didn't scare you. I hope I didn't scare you, but I do want you to realize what all it takes and what all is behind it. It's like high risk, high reward. It really is. And we just kind of fell into it. We got lucky. But we've also pounded the pavement. We could have quit 100 times at this point and walked away. And I think just by true like... You won't let me quit. In a good way. Resilience has really got us to where we're at today. Not much else. But I think that's like that with anybody that kind of goes into business for themselves. Even if it's something else. But anyway, I hope that answers your question, Jill. If you have a Tuesday Talk question, we would love to hear from you. There's a few different ways you can get a hold of us. You can email us at dswingnation at gmail.com. You can email in your question. Or if you want to make an audio recording, email us that recording. You can do that also. Or you can call us. And that phone number is? 972-302-7716. One more time? 972-302-7716. Also, feel free to text that phone number your questions. You can text them in. We'll get them that way. Send us nudes. Send us a hello. That phone number, we don't carry it around in our pocket all the time. We only really check it probably once or twice a week. But if you want to send us a private message or something like that, we've had a few people message us and say, hey, this podcast touched us. Yeah, we've got a lot of feedback about last week's podcast, about the religion. Several people called in and left voicemails. saying it. We've got emails. We've got texts. So thank you very much for your positive feedback on that one. So that's a good way to get a hold of us that way. So anyway, I think that's it. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? Lacey? That's it. All right, guys. I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more For more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. Make sure you head on over to theswingnation.net and keep up to date on all things Swing Nation. We thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you next time. Goodbye. That's so hot.