Once Upon a Time at Secrets Part 1: Drag Shows, Day Drinking and Disney Vibes

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Take over of secrets. Hide away. of which we just got back from like two days ago. Yeah. So it's fresh. It's very fresh. We're still sleep deprived. Our suitcases are not in packed. Trailer is not in packed. But here we are. Here we are. All right. So we left our houses and headed for Florida on Monday. Yeah. On Monday. Yeah. And we drove halfway down. Yeah. Yeah, originally, we go back and forth if we drive it, like, over two hours or, I mean, over two days or over one. You're back. You know, we're not getting any younger. Your back is a little fucked up. We used to do it in one day all the time, and lately, we've tried really hard to try to separate it. It's about a nine-hour drive, and then you have to take into account the trailer. So, like, we can't ride through our drive-thru. You know, everything's just a little bit more different. No, 100%. So this trip, we decided to break it into two parts. So we left Monday, got about, I don't know, halfway, probably a little over halfway. Actually, I think we had like six hours left on Tuesday. And we didn't leave until like seven o'clock our time. It was pretty late leaving, you know, as far as like getting on the road. And I think we drove to probably midnight, would you say? Yeah, something like that. Atlanta, you know, kind of got all the way through Atlanta and a little bit further and checked into a hotel. Just literally went in, dropped our bags, went to sleep. Yeah, then slept in. Yeah, we slept in because, you know, we're night owls. We're not in any huge hurry. Really, our goal is to just be there on Tuesday, not necessarily to do anything. If we make it in time and we can, great. If we don't, it's not the end of the world. So we got there about, so we got up about 10, got out. out of our room and back on the road about 11. And ended up getting to Secrets about 6. Yes, correct. And so Tuesday nights at Secrets is the drag show. So it's like pride night, but they do the drag show every weekend and they do that in the club. So I think me and you actually got in, we parked the trailer, we kind of unloaded our stuff. We realized there was a little miscommunication between our staff and the front desk about which day we were getting in. So we actually didn't get our room. Uh, so we had to stay in a different room. So we really just took our suitcases that we needed for the night into that room. Like bare minimum unpacking. Like we just unzipped our suitcases because we did, there was no, even though they got us next door. So we were very close. Um, so it wasn't a lot to move everything over. We just kind of left the bulk of our stuff in our room, which we can't really blame seekers for that. I think that was actually, we didn't communicate what day we were going to get there. So. That was our mistake. So, yeah. So, we got into that room, unloaded just a little bit of stuff, and then immediately we were hungry because we didn't really have lunch or anything. So, we went to the Italian place, which we love. I even vlogged it. So, if you follow me on TikTok, you can kind of see, because we get questions a lot about, like, where exactly is the Italian place? Like, how do y'all get there? Because we talk about it every time we go to Secrets. And so, we were able to kind of do that. It was great. I mean, we ate way too much. Should have brought our leftovers back, but didn't. If you are going to Secrets Hideaway, I highly recommend going to the Italian place. It's like next door. So good. The staff is wonderful. It's awesome. Yes, agreed. Okay, so then we came back and we headed out to the bar. We actually got to sit down and talk a little bit with, if you've listened to previous episodes, we did an episode with a former Preacher, and him and his wife were there. We got to kind of hang out with them for a little while. Yeah, did you know they were going to be there? They had mentioned, I think he had texted me and said they were going to try. They didn't get to stay for the whole weekend because he had a trip that he had planned for work, but they did come in on Tuesday night. We got to see him for a little while. Which is nice because I've got to know him via podcast. We've had a couple meetings with him, so I've got to know him, but I had actually never met him in person. until that night. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot because the last time at Secrets, I had talked to him, but just like randomly on the side of the pool. Yeah, and y'all connected, and then we ended up connecting later and doing the podcast. And honestly, the podcast with him, if you don't know what we're talking about, he was a former pastor, and we kind of talk about his process of like leaving the church and joining the lifestyle and what that looks like. So if you are interested, go back and find that podcast. There's some talk in there about how to balance the lifestyle. if you're someone of faith and things like that. Yeah. Which I was very nervous about doing that podcast. But to be honest with you, we got so much feedback from it. Y'all loved it. So it was really nice to meet him and his beautiful wife and to chit chat and hang out. So it wasn't, we didn't spend the whole evening with him, but we got, you know, a good hour or so and it was nice. Yep. And then we headed into the drag show. Yeah. And got to see that, which is always a good time. Yes. So Twyla and April Fresh hosted every single Tuesday. And then the drag queens that they have with them is always changing. So every time we host and we go there on a Tuesday night, it's always different with the exception of them two. It's always different. And it's really fun to see the different types of people that do it. It's also great people watching just like the patrons of like Pride Night. It's a discounted night. So you get a little bit of everything. It doesn't bother us. I know some people say, you know, there's a lot of single guys. There are a lot of pushy. It doesn't really bother us. We just sort of like people watch and take it in and we don't really. Yeah, so Tuesday nights are their pride night every week and it is one of the busiest weekdays of secrets. So, you know, Wednesdays, Mondays can be kind of slow. Thursdays, usually you're starting to get people coming in for the weekend and, you know, kind of builds to the But if you are looking for a daytime time to go, Tuesdays are great. And there's a good amount of diversity. It's very diverse, especially if you're someone that is a little worried about being either gay or bisexual or trans or whatever. However you identify. This is the night to go because you will literally see a little bit of everything and very accepting. It's honestly a really fun night. We genuinely enjoy coming in on Tuesdays. So if you're ever in that area and have a free Tuesday, we highly recommend going. Don't forget your dollar bills because during the drag show, the ladies love their dollars. So you want to pay them and tip them for their hard work. Agreed. Also, somebody bought our drinks at the bar, which doesn't really happen to us very often. That was super nice of whoever it was. You know, I said thank you, but we didn't really get to. It was starting. Yeah, it was starting. So we didn't really get the chance to talk. So whoever you are, if you listen, thank you very much for doing that. That was very kind. But yeah, it was a great time. We danced, enjoyed the show. And then after that, we pretty much just kind of went back to our room because it didn't start until 1030. And for like a random Tuesday night, that's kind of a little late for us. Even though we're night owl. I mean, just so anyway, after that, we just basically went to the room and we ended up like fucking. So what's funny is, I had told Dan like when we were like, you know, we had had a drink or two at the, you know, at the drug show. And so I was like, I was feeling myself, you know, and I'm like, I want you to fuck the shit out of me. We don't have any kids in the house. No, my mom lives with us. So my mom's not there. I want you to like, put me on the counter, put me on the wall. Like, I want you to do all the dirty things to me. And then we, of course, like every woman, I promise the world, you know, and then we get in the room and I'm like, I'm tired. I just want to go to bed. Well, it didn't even dawn on me. And then you take a shower. And then all of a sudden your nose is bleeding. And you're like, I wonder why my nose is bleeding. I haven't even done anything. It didn't even dawn on me until I put your dick in my mouth. You had taken Viagra. Yeah, I had. You wanted to get dick down, so I wanted to make sure I was ready to go and do it. But that's pretty good that I know you that well. I literally put your dick in my mouth and I was like. It's in the nosebleed thing. I don't know why. It didn't give it off. When I take Viagra, I always get nosebleeds. Not always, but often. Yeah. And it didn't even tip me off. Yeah. I was like, something's different. So if you're wondering, there's definitely, it definitely causes more blood flow. So anyway, I was feeling frisky. So I was like, let's open the blinds. Let's put on a show. And we did. We opened the blinds and fucked for a while. And then eventually I was like, okay. Some guy came and banged on the window, didn't he? Yeah. They can be a little aggressive, especially on a Tuesday night. But I kind of knew that, like, I knew that opening him, I kind of wanted the attention. So, yeah. You got it. So, and then at some point I was like, okay, I'm, I'm done putting on a show let's just move on let's just fuck fuck the shit out of me so we fucked and then we went we went to bed we did yeah I think we actually fucked like twice I think you came twice which is a lot for us I can't I came twice or just fucked I came and we just fucked again I don't remember coming twice I think I think I came once and then you got you know because of the Viagra I was still hard and we fucked some more okay either way either way good Tuesday night great way to start out the weekend together. Yeah. All right. So then we slept in again. I think we got up at like, I don't know, 10, 10 o'clock, something like that. And then we had a meeting with the secret staff at, I don't know, noonish, I think, 11 noon maybe. And that was nice. And it's something we typically do. But I feel like they brought in everybody. Usually we would like meet with the manager or whatever. But this time they had the whole entire team there. Which was lovely. It was like a good chance to like, hey, before the weekend. What do you need from us? What do we need from y'all? You know, who is our contact firm? All the things. And so it was good. I was greatly appreciative of Secrets for doing that. And I think that's something that we should continue for going forward. Even though we kind of have done that in the past, I feel like we did it in more of like an official capacity this time. Yeah, usually it's just like me and you and like one of the managers. This time they had the manager of like every department and every section in there, which was nice. And we ran through the whole schedule and they were able to ask us questions. We were able to ask them. them questions and just kind of iron out what the plan was for the weekend yes so after that they had asked us to either have like originally it was just me dinner but then it got changed to lunch you want to go have dinner with or lunch with them and we were like okay did not know what it really was by them you mean um the owner of secrets yes or well i guess one of the owners i don't i don't know exactly their situation but i think they have some business partners but uh james uh who's the owner senior senior and then his son, who is one of the, I think, directors there. Yeah, I don't know his. I don't know the title. So we didn't know who all was going, but we knew that they wanted to do something. And so it was decided that we were going to go for lunch. Right. So we load up and we go and it was their CEO also went with us. It was, well, James, I think it was their CFO. Somebody. Anyway, there's people. We're obviously not going to tell you what we talked about because, you know, that was confident, confident, Yeah, I mean, I don't think most people would tell you if they have business meetings with people and what exactly. Yeah, we're not going to tell you. Now, if stuff comes of it, which I think it will, there might be some future announcements being made. Yeah, we're not going to tell you the ins and outs of the meeting, but we will tell you that we sat down and I had not had any food. Keep in mind, so we had not had breakfast and this was our lunch. And before food even came, they started ordering doubles. Everybody was having Jaeger. I can't do Jaeger. Well, James Sr. literally told the waitress, keep bringing doubles until we pass out. Okay, guys, y'all know me. I am like a two-shot girl and then like I'm doing cartwheels, you know? And so like a double before I've even had food at noon. Like, well, at this point, it's like one, you know? So I couldn't do Jaeger. So I was like, I'll do Fireball. So, okay, so let me back up a little. First of all, I didn't realize it, but I take like Prolosec or one of those. I don't know what the name of it is. You know, indigestion. I had not refilled it, which is a bad mistake going to a swinger party without that medication. It's not the end of the world. I can buy some over the counter. I had not done it yet. And fireball will light my ass up in that way. So now I'm not on my medicine and now we're starting fireball shots. So before our food come, I know we had had four or so. So that would be two doubles. So that's four shots. I mean, like I by the time we I don't even know how many we had. after that, by the time we got up to walk to the car, I was like, I'm not okay. Like, I've got to get my shit together. And I'm trying to be cool, because they're cool, right? You know, they're, you know, they like party and, you know, and cool. And I'm, and his son's like in his 20s, you know? And I'm like, I can't let them know that I'm this shit-faced at three o'clock in the air. Now we've been there for a couple hours, and you were probably drinking more than me. I was at least like being, like, I would do like half of the job. I'm not a heavy drinker, but I can definitely handle alcohol better than you. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm on a GLP one. Like, so like add that to it. I don't have very much food in my system. I don't process it well. So I'm like, I'm fucked up. You were. Come three o'clock. So then we go back to secrets and he's going to give us the full secrets to presentation because we never sat down. We know about secrets to we've never got the full, full brief, the full brief. We haven't seen all the rendering. in the rooms and all that. Yeah. Yeah. So we sit down just to do that. Honestly, at that point, it's very fuzzy. I don't you left and went to his office at one point. I don't even remember you leaving. Yeah, I don't. There's some fuzziness in there, too. I remember getting the brief on secrets, too. And that looks fantastic. And I'm pretty excited about that. I'm really excited to have, you know, they're talking. I think that that the second. So if you don't know what secrets to is in the empty gravel parking lot, that's to the left of Secrets. They're talking about building a second resort. It's going to be called Secrets 2. And it's going to be, you know, I would say Secrets 1 is it's a 1980s remodeled Ramada. This is going to be a very nice, like, high-end, luxurious type of condo complex. And it's topless only, so it's going to be, like, mild versus wild. So, like, if you're newer and you want to try Secrets, you're not prepared for, like, blowjobs and full-blown sets on the side of the pool. It's a little bit introductory into that. Or if you're just not in the lifestyle and you want to tan with your titties out. If you don't, you just want to be topless and not engage in any of that. Right. But it's basically going to double. I don't know the exact numbers, but I remember it's somewhere around another 150 rooms, which Secrets is around 150 rooms. You can't usually access them all. I think there's technically 148 or 149. We usually sell around 130. It basically will double the size of Secrets. And if you've been to Secrets, you know it's kind of like a U-shaped where the courtyard's in the middle. Well, Secrets 2 will be U-shaped too, but the opening of the U's will be kind of facing each other. And they don't have like a courtyard. I think he called it like a garden or something kind of in between the two. And if you have a past one, you can go back and forth to the other. So I think it's a cool idea. Yeah, it's cool. So we got the whole bit. It was like we would, and like all of our friends were checking in. So like everybody's checking in. Everybody's like joining. People are drinking. and then people leave. It was all... Yeah. I think we planned to take over the world with James during that meeting. For sure. At some point, we were like, we have to stop talking business. We called some other people. I didn't even remember talking. We had John from John and Jackie, Melfi of Colette's on the phone at one point in time. I mean... We were texting with Bob Hannaford, the owner of Naughty New Orleans at one point in time. At one point, just because I think people... This is common knowledge, so I think it's okay. Jess and Jordan were there. And I was like, do you even work here? I mean, like I was like, I was trashed. I did stop. At some point I was like, I have to stop. You know, like I was gone. The ship had sailed. There was no more. I don't even remember him, James Sr. leaving. Like, I don't even know where he went. And then he was just gone. And then it was just over. I don't, I don't know. I feel like he came, saw, got his drunk and then peaced out. You know, so we We tabled a lot of our discussions. So if you don't know, we're leaving on Bliss Cruise this weekend. So this episode will come out on Thursday. So we leave, what, Sunday? Yeah, we leave our house on Friday, but we get on the ship Sunday. In this particular Bliss Cruise, there's a large amount of industry, what you'd call lifestyle industry people. So we tabled our discussion for Bliss Cruise. I don't know if that's going to go any better. So we will report back on how that went for there. But yeah, it was quite... It was, I think we sold, we tried to talk all of our friends into everybody buying condos. We'll all buy condos. We'll all be right next door neighbors at Secrets 2. And it was wild, but it was honestly like. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. I think we spent a thousand dollars worth, drank a thousand dollars for the alcohol while we sat outside. That's not counting the restaurant while we were. Well, then because he was being, He gave us a $1,000 bar tab for the rest of the night. Now keep in mind, I never drank another drop after that. I'm like, what the fuck can I do with $1,000? I'm like, no way, I can't. So we'll get into the later portion of the night. But we did somehow get a $1,000 bar tab to be used later the rest of the day. So out of that conversation, which was fun. So after that, and I'm going to be super transparent. I was still pretty fucked up. I'm not going to lie. And I'm not going to like, I'm not going to sugarcoat it and pretend like I'm not. We had, we, we swapped with a couple. Um, but it was somebody that I would swap with completely sober. I would swap with. Right. So after James and all of them left, we had to go check into our, we want to switch rooms, switch rooms. So our friends, I guess we won't say their names, but anyway, so one of our friends is like, Hey, we'll go, let us help you move your stuff. Right. And I don't know if this was a, if they, if they were planning this or if it just kind of happened or if they were genuinely trying to help, or maybe it was a combination of they wanted to help. And maybe they thought we might fuck too. But anyway, they helped us move our stuff and we ended up fucking. It was a good time. Next thing I'm like moving my stuff and I look over Dan's eating pussy and I'm like, okay, I guess we're fucking. I think I initiated that. Like, I guess we're fucking, which was a great time. Honestly, like that kind of stuff reminds me of like pre podcast. And that is like really fun. And we've fucked them so many times. and we'll fuck them again. So I'm not like there was no like consent. There was no consent issues there. I 100% consented and it was a great time. But it was. I'm just happy my dick worked. I don't know how that worked. I just laid there. But it did work. So I think I just laid there and took it, you know, which was great for me. So then after that, we we never went to like you would think that we were like, let's let's like because now we're pushing five, six o'clock. All of our friends. Well, if you follow Lacey's blog post on her TikTok page. I've logged all of this minus the sex. Yeah. After the sex, I think I actually got in the shower because there might have been some squirt or whatever on me. And you blog and you're in the shower and you're like, Dan's in the shower. I think he thinks we're going to go back out there. And you're like, I don't see how we're going to do that. And at one point I said, I'm I'm fuck the fuck up. Yeah. You're on the that was when you're on the pool table. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was on the pool table. Yeah. So it was like, but we, we did go back out. So I showered. I don't remember if you made me rinse off in the shower and then we put the clothes on and went back outside. I think I just wore the same outfit. I don't think I did anything. I just put my clothes back on and went back out. And so I, you know, obviously I was like, I'm not drinking. I think you did. Oh yeah. I kept going. Yeah. Not a lot. I mean, I was drinking like high noons. Yeah. So we, we ordered food and then like, because it was Wednesday night and like we used to get to secrets and like people would, we would be like the only people there on Thursday. Now it's slowly becoming, Wednesday is the new Thursday. Yeah, Wednesday. So like a lot of our friends were there coming in late. And so all of our friends started arriving. So then we have this like $1,000 that we have, we don't have to spend, but we want to spend because why wouldn't you? So we basically like bought drinks for all of our friends and sat out, you know, back where the, um, which I don't know if that was the intention, but, but James did say like get some drinks for you and your friends. Yeah. I mean, honestly, it was a good time. You know, everybody ordered, you know, we, somebody go up there and get a high noon. And we ordered like three and just pass them around. But I ordered food. I couldn't even tell you what I ate. I think I had those chicken bites. I don't know. But we we ended up staying out there like one or two o'clock in the morning. Daphne might come in on Wednesday nights. And so like at some point I was done like an hour or so before we I was like, I'm ready to go. Yeah. So that's the nice thing. You know, the Tiki Hut is kind of like a newer addition at Secrets. And it's such a nice chill spot for stuff like that. So we were actually behind the Tiki. They have fire rings. And so they had actually lit one of the fire rings. It was starting to get, you know, low 70s, maybe high 60s at night. It was chilly for Florida. Yeah, it wasn't bad. But sitting around those fire and just kind of chit-chatting with our friends and catching up on, you know, how you guys been and what you've been up to and how's, you know, how's life, you know. It was really good. A chill night. Yeah, for sure. And then, so Daphne and Mike came in. I found, that was what I was finally able to get down. Like, we have to go. They're getting in. So by the time, because they work on So they got in, you know, 1.30 or so. And now, keep in mind, usually on Wednesday, this is our let's unpack. We completely unpack our suitcases because the rooms are just not big enough to leave your suitcase open with all your stuff. So we typically unpack. We hang our sign. We get everything, like our room unpacked. We'd never done any of that. We had moved our suitcases over. That's it. That's it. That was literally it. So like going into Thursday, I felt like we were. Behind. Pretty behind. And so anyway, Daphne might get there. We go to sleep. We wake up the next morning and I am deathly ill. Like the most hungover I've ever been. I mean, I probably had 12 shots of fireball though. Yeah. I mean, I was green. I was still shaking at like four o'clock in the afternoon. Like I finally, It's like, okay, well, I guess we'll get into Thursday. But I was very, very sick on Thursday. And rightfully so. I mean, like, I was still sick from it on Saturday, if you want me to be honest. I'm too old for that. I can't be drinking like that. All right. Well, now's the perfect time to take a little break and hear from the partners and sponsors of the Swing Nation podcast. And then when we come back, we'll get into Thursday. Yes. And the actual start of the Swinger Study Takeover. of Secrets Hideaway. All right, we'll be right back, guys. Lacey, if you're going to be a swinger, you need to be a responsible swinger. I agree. And part of being a responsible swinger is getting tested on a regular basis. Yeah. Now, something I didn't know is not all STI, STD testing is the same. That is correct. Not every family doctor fully understands how you should be getting tested. That is correct. What one doctor thinks is a full panel, another doctor may have a completely different version of that. And being somebody in the lifestyle and engaging with multiple partners, what you should be getting tested for is probably different than what they're thinking in their head. Yeah, because they don't know your lifestyle. Or even if they do know your lifestyle, there's a like, for instance, there is a new one called Imgen. And we just recently met a doctor at a lifestyle party and said that she had never even heard of it. about it. And so she was awesome that we had educated her on that. So a lot of these doctors don't, they don't know it all. Right. So if you are going to participate in the lifestyle, you probably need to get tested from people that are meant to do this. Yes. 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But please, if you're being if you're swinging, if you're engaging with people in the community, please be safe about it. Go get tested. Yeah, because we want you to fuck like a porn star. For sure. Dan, if someone is just recently joining the lifestyle and they don't really know where to begin, what do you recommend? Well, the lifestyle, you know, it's 2025. And people are on the internet. They are. And there just so happens to be lifestyle websites that are dedicated to people connecting in the lifestyle. Yes. SDC happens to be one of our favorites. Over 3 million users. You can find people in your area. You can find clubs. You can find parties. All of it is right on SDC. And you can get a huge discount by signing up with us. You can. So all you got to do is if you're looking for lifestyle people in your area, if you're looking for the clubs, If you're looking for the parties, go to theswingnation.info. Recommended apps and products. Scroll down to the SDC icon. We'll give you a free trial. You can check them out. You can see who's in your area. You can see if it's the app for you. All completely risk-free. Yes. So just head on over to theswingnation.info and get signed up for SDC today. Welcome back. Welcome back. Thank you for listening to our sponsors. Lacey loves our sponsors. I do. And a huge shout out to our sponsors for donating to Our swag bag, we had lots of good items in the swag bag. The fans, you got little Summer Society. Like electric fans. Electric fans. I saw them all weekend. People were using those little electric fans. Okay, so on Thursday, we actually, I thought we woke up at a pretty decent time considering how late we went. Because we had to start setting up about 11. And I can remember we were up in pretty much Adam, you know, around 10. or so. Mike had brought us Dunkin' Donuts. Yes. Thank you, Daddy Mike. Like I said, in the first half, I was really sick. Like, you know, I never threw up on Wednesday, which is honestly shocking, but like Thursday at some point, I think I'd like made my, and probably the GOP one, I felt like the alcohol was just like sitting in my stomach. It was miserable. I felt surprisingly fine. Well, good for you. I did not. I felt terrible. Maybe a little hungover, But I've been way worse, yeah. So setting up Secrets, it gets easier and easier. I feel like every time we do it, you know, we are very fortunate that we have a great staff who are there and willing to help. Not to mention all the volunteers that just see us unloading and they're like, hey, let me help you. So it makes it easier and easier every single time. Yeah, and I think now, you know, comparing a Secrets to like an Electric Pleasures, Secrets is such an easier lift than an Electric Pleasures is. So I think it almost, because we've done electric pleasures, what, twice now? Yeah. It almost makes secrets seem easier. Simply because there's so much electronics involved in electric pleasures that nobody really can, like, do other than you. You can have somebody help you, but, like, nobody can kind of spearhead that. Where at Swingers, Heidi and Secrets, we can set up the merch tent. We can, you know, all those things are pretty easy. And so it felt very easy going into, like set up and all of that so we got it we got it done pretty pretty quickly even your party like daddy mike helped you and i don't feel like y'all took very long yeah so at secrets we do do a small uh stage set up on their outdoor stage under the tiki uh and we do that because we we throw kind of a meet and greet party there thursday night and then uh friday and saturday uh we have our djs dj the club and secrets djs actually dj outside in the tiki so it kind of gives you options, because this takeover has become so big, it's almost hard for everybody to even fit into the club nowadays. So it is nice to kind of have two parties going on at the same time. And I thought that worked really well this time. And it's something we're probably going to do going forward. But there's even been some talk about maybe bringing the main party under the Tiki and having kind of the club be the secondary party. But we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. Or maybe like switching it up, like one time the main party be inside and the second night the main party be outside. We'll see. That's an idea. Tell us what you think. Should we do it? So, I mean, the bulk of Thursday was getting everything set up. The merch tent and stuff opened at five and also our NIPS program. Well, if you don't know what NIPS, it's basically like if you're a newbie and you've never been a secret. Newbie integration program to secrets. Oh, there you go. NIPS. That was pretty good. Yeah. So basically you get paired up with someone that's been there and they can kind of show you around. Introduce you to people, stuff like that. Now, I've been reading the reviews, and I do think that we should change it for next time. Why? Because, like, for instance, I was told we didn't have enough people to pair, so I rushed me, Daphne, and Mike to get ready, volunteered them, got out there, and then not enough people showed up, you know? So my, and I haven't had a chance to tell you this, and I tell, my thoughts are, why don't we just do it as one thing? big group and I can lead it. Like have Lacey of the Swing Nation podcast. Oh. Host like a group tour. Okay. Kind of like we do at Hedo. Kind of like we do at Hedo. And maybe five and also on some of the review. And so y'all give us your feedback. Some of the reviews said five o'clock on Thursday is just too early. Like especially if you've never been to Secrets before and you don't know to get there earlier. You don't know that a lot of people arrive on Wednesday. You know you might be working until you get off. So if you're a newbie and you're thinking about coming to our September 1 or if you're somebody that's been there a lot and you give me your feedback tell me what you this is like every time we do a secret is we try to improve we try to take the surveys I guess my only fear about that would be is what if you get too many people you know if you got 75 people it's gonna be hard to you're gonna need like a bullhorn we only had 50 something rooms checked in on Thursday so like no all the rooms checked in Thursday Wednesday. Wednesday, we only had 50 rooms. Oh, never mind. Okay. Well, I don't know. But either way. Yeah. Either way. We'll figure it out. I can get a bullhorn as long as it's pink. Well, the drag queens usually have one. Well, I would like my own. That would be pink and rhinoceros. Just so you know. Okay. So anyway, so this night, this is the first time we've had like a true official theme. We've done loosely like a pineapple for Thursday. This one was like, it was supposed to be like traditional Mickey, like Mickey Mouse, you know, like a year in advance. So our flyers usually aren't even done. And then they put their own flyers up on their website and they don't always mesh perfectly with ours. Yeah. So something we probably need to check. Be like, hey, can you adjust that? Because that's not quite right. But honestly, it really didn't matter because everybody just looked cute. You know, it didn't really matter. So me and Daphne had matching like Minnie Mouse outfits. I was red. She was pink. Very cute. And you had a Little Mermaid shirt on that said, but daddy, I love him. So I was trying to, you know, play on Disney. But Thursday night was great. We got out there early, and we didn't need to be out there, but it was fine because I kind of helped with the merch booths. There were some technical issues getting people through the line, so kind of helped with that. And then we were really just out there. I took pictures. We hung out. Thursday night, like you said before, is really all about the meet and greeds, stuff like that. Yeah, so our Thursday, we do these games. So it's like Scavenger Bingo, where it's It's like basically you get a bingo card and there's a bunch of naughty stuff on there like he has been in a gangbang, has participated in an orgy, you know, has gone to Hedo, has been on a bliss cruise. There's also things like this is your first swingers. So there's also the idea is you go around and you got to find people that have done all these things. And it makes you talk to people. So basically just makes you talk to people. Not only makes you talk to people, but makes you talk to people about sexual things. Yeah. Right. So it's a little bit of an icebreaker, you know. And I was telling the guy, you know, people when I was handing out the cards, I'm like, this is a great way. to find out what dirty stuff people are into. And then put that in your memory for later. Tell me about that. Tell me about that, Tom. So we did that. Then there was Drag Queen Bingo. No, so it went the scavenger hunt game. Okay. And then it went speed dating. And then it went to the Drag Queen Bingo. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. A couple of complaints about the music was too loud at the pool. They couldn't hear. Speed Dating. They couldn't hear each other's talking. I think that's probably always going to be a problem. You just have to talk up. So this time, what they did do is they tied the speakers under the Tiki to the pool. So the Tiki speakers were on. I think I tried to turn them down a little bit, but I could see maybe that being an issue. But I mean, honestly, I sat at a table and had a full-on conversation with people, and I didn't feel like I struggled to hear anybody. I can see if you were maybe up in the front couple tables. Yeah, for sure. And that was like really a lot of Thursday. And then at some point we switched to DJs. And I don't know if y'all had like an official schedule, but it felt like y'all were just kind of like taking turns. Yeah. I liked. Yeah. Yeah. So Thursday night, we usually DJ under the Tiki on the stage there. And it really is just a, I don't know, free files, the right term. But we just kind of, we, I invite all the DJs out and it's kind of, we all, you know, like back to back. We just kind of take turns hopping up there. I love it. and then trading out. Sometimes two DJs will go back and forth at the same time. It's just whatever. Just fun. Just funsies. I like it. It's super informal. It's just a good time. We danced in part. It was a great one thing I do want to mention. There was a guy that was a little bit older and I noticed that he was staring a lot. I didn't know who he was looking at but he did seem to be like it was giving off a little bit of a creeper vibe. I don't know if he was a creep but he It was totally giving off. It was definitely giving off creeper vibes. Yeah. For sure. And a friend of ours, I had noticed it in like kind of mentally. Yeah. When people do that, when people kind of hover and are kind of giving off that creeper vibe, I think, you know, and this is maybe chauvinistic to say, but the males in the group usually take notice of that and just, and sometimes we'll even point it out to each other and say, hey, that guy. Which I know I noticed it and I know one of our other friends had noticed it and noticed that it was being directed towards Daphne. and said something to Daphne like, hey, keep your eye on that guy. As far as I know, that was the only thing that was like outwardly said, even though I thought it, I just didn't say it out loud. Well, at some point, Daphne had sat down in a chair and the guy had gotten pretty, like basically almost touching. Like basically his dick is touching the back of the chair. The back of the chair. And I think he, and I'm not taking up for this guy because I think he was a little bit of a creeper, but he bent down to ask her if he could touch her and she said no. But it was loud. And he thought she said yes. Or maybe he didn't care. I don't know what the truth is there. But he went and went to grab her boob. And as soon as he did, it was like everybody saw it at the same time. And even like Daddy Mike, he was coming over. He started, he's like, no. He corrected the guy very quickly. And as soon as the guy understood that the answer was no, He apologized. He apologized. I didn't hear her. So that was a little weird. It kind of threw off the vibe a little. And I don't know if he just went away after that. I don't remember. He went away from our side of the club, yeah. Yeah, so I mean like, but he took the rejection and moved on. But Daphne got, because I was so drunk the night, the day before, it pretty easy on Thursday. I mean, I drank a little. Daphne was pretty. Yeah, I can remember at one point I was DJing and she like she came up. I think you and her actually came up in your in your Minnie Mouse outfits and dance with me for a while. And it was apparent that I think you're both a little intoxicated. Her more so. Yeah. And then later she came up. I don't even know. She asked me a question and gave me a kiss. I don't even know what the question was. I think she was wanting you to pay her attention. She was doing a forward roll. Bicycle Moo. Oh, so she came up to ask me for her attention? Well, she wanted you to see if you saw her or if you hadn't seen her to watch her. Okay. She wanted you to watch her. And then later, yes, she was doing gymnastics on the side of the stage. It was like she was doing like a bicycle thing, but it was really like a back roll. But she rolled first. Yeah. So she like rolled across the stage and then was kicking the air. And when she was rolling across the stage, I can remember thinking, is not. There's no mat there. It is a hard, solid stage. When we got back to the room, I was like, you need to take some Advil. She's not a young lady anymore. You're 10 years older than me and I know I would be hurting after that. You need to take Advil because you're going to be dying next day. But it was a good vibe under the Tiki. It was pretty packed under the Tiki. If we compare it to, I think this is maybe the third Secrets we've done, like the Thursday under the Tiki pre-party, maybe the At least the second, but I think the third. Yeah. And by far the busiest Thursday crowd. For sure. And everybody stayed out late. Yeah. And I can remember somebody saying, you know, we come to secrets all the time and I've never seen secrets like this on a Thursday night. That's good to know. Yeah. So at some point, me and Daphne and Mike, we're like a little threesome when we're all together. This became a joke of the weekend. You guys were referring to each other as a triad, as in like a poly triad. Yeah. And I was outside of that family group. Yeah. Well, because you were working. You were always busy. And if it wasn't for them, I would be by myself. So I was appreciative of our little triad. But I don't. Why can't I just. Why can't it be a quad? Because you're not there. And I'm just the working husband of the quad. I said you're an honorary member. But why am I excluded completely? Why can't. Because you're not an active member. Because I'm the one working member of the. I'm working too. So anyway, me and my triad. So I tell Dan, I'm like, hey, I'm going to the room with Daphne and Mike. So we all three go to the room. And I'm sure we were like a hot mess. Like if you watch the vlog, you can see us. We like did updates on our day. And the blog is pretty funny. I think we need to you need to start doing it both vertically and horizontally so that I can at the end, maybe YouTube it. Yeah. Well, and what's funny is, you know, maybe I'll put the whole The funniest thing is, we've been approached by reality shows and all this so many times. And we've even had shopping agreements. We've been down that route. And the truth is, the sex and stuff is fun, right? That's the hot part. But behind the scenes, the shit that goes down in our rooms, or somebody didn't show up, or something happened, or whatever disaster. And you're not even showing some of that. In your blog, you're mostly showing your outfits and your hair. Yeah, and us laughing. But you're not when something goes wrong or somebody doesn't show up. You're not showing that part of it. No. So that's kind of like the vlog is the behind the scenes. It's a snippet. It is so fucking hilarious, all the shit that happens. And we've even had them, they're like, you know, what kind of drama? You don't have to create drama. There's just shit that happens. You haven't talked about really any of that either on the blog yet. Yeah. to keep it. Except for the drama of your outfit. People were attached to that drama. I keep it pretty, like, I keep the business side of the vlogs a lot. I do show, like, us packing and loading trailers and stuff like that. But as far as, like, I say we're in a meeting, I don't say what the meeting is about because obviously I'm not going to tell you our secrets. But, you know, so, like, there's so much behind the scenes that is just in itself super entertaining. And the vlogs are just, like, a little bit of a snippet. And I hope that the vlogs show that it's It's way more than like sex. You know, it's the friendships. It's the laughter. It's that type of thing. What is your TikTok handle? I can tell you. Then you might as well say your Instagram too while you're at it. So people want to follow that and go see. So the one, the account that I post the vlogs on on TikTok is MissMRS underscore swing underscore nation. So we have a lot, but it's Miss underscore swing underscore nation. And the Instagram? is same. Miss underscore swing underscore nation. Yeah. And that's where the blog post go. Yeah. Which it is. It is pretty funny. I wonder if it's as funny to other people as it is to us. You know. I feel like it is because we get a lot of comments and like so many people are like oh my god this is. So seriously like I think they get to see me and Daphne a lot. I think you get to see like my true personality because like when I'm making these like lip singing videos and stuff like that I don't think you get to see like the true like me you know let me when you see me laughing at 2 a.m. with my best friend that's like the true authentic or you drunk and laughing and i mean that's giggling and it's authentic that's for sure you know like i have known it yet so even though those pages aren't you know like our big tiktok page or our big uh uh instagram page you know they're like close i think one's over 300 000 and the tiktok's like close to 300 000 more engagement on the blog posts. Yeah. Especially like when you're talking about your outfit and all that. Yeah, people are invested. Then we do on, you know, some of the trendy sound stuff. Yeah, for sure. So Thursday night, I ended up going back with them. And then nobody fucked. I think I waited for you. I mean, I'm sure you came because you don't go to bed without coming. So me and you might have fucked as far as like, I mean, like swinger fucking. We didn't like swall for anything on Thursday night. No. Yeah. Not that I remember. Which is too bad. Because I think Thursday night. We're going to do something. Kind of is the night. But it is hard. Because we're always DJing. The problem is that you're a fucking DJ. That's the problem. Your DJ schedule is fucking up. Because not only are you DJing. But now you have to like. You have to switch between the DJs. Or turn the thing off. So like even if you're done. You're not really truly done. And ever since you started DJing. Our OG schedule has been. Hard. It's been hard. And somebody. put that in the review. They did. So Dan's DJ schedule is seriously fucking up our orgies. Yeah. So I think that you need to take orgy time into account for the next schedule. When we make the schedules? Yes. Okay. At least like one night. Like you need to have somebody that will. Well, it was taken into account for one night. What night was that? Friday night. We had an orgy. Oh. So it was taken into account. I even told you going into this, if we're going to have an orgy, Friday night's the night to do it. Well, you're the boss. So can we do both? That's what somebody else said. They're like, I won't say what type of business they own, but they're like, you won't catch me running the counter. Yeah. Like, I'm sure we can pay someone to turn the things off. Yeah. I mean, and then you can double check behind them. Like once we're done. Yeah. Anyway, so that was Thursday night. How are we on time? We're down to about 10 minutes. Okay. So I think maybe that might be a good time to pause. so that we can have an episode uh so while we have the last 10 minutes let's talk a little bit about our next secrets yeah and then maybe talk a little bit uh about the sanctuary and about um electric pleasures uh chattanooga okay so first of all let's talk about our next secrets so guys our secrets events we are so blessed because y'all love them we sell them out within the month ish of releasing them i can tell you now Now, Secrets has not went for sale to the public yet, and we are about 50% sold out. So if you are like, this sounds fun, I want to go to the next one. And keep in mind, we do two a year. So we do the spring and the fall, roughly. It's not always the same weekend. It's April, September this year. I think next year we're actually going to do May and September, if I remember correctly. I don't know off the top of my head. So our next one is September 17th through the 19th of 2026. The themes are Happy Hour. for CEOs and office hoes and hard hats and hammer. So you can book the next secrets for as little as a $100 down. So if you just came and you spent all your money and you need time, you can do a payment plan. You don't have to pay it all in full. If you are a Diamond member, which is our swingersidey.net, you can sign up for a Diamond membership. Through there, you basically pay. It's like $10 a month. 20 bucks a month. You get first dibs. 10 is a general membership. 20 is a diamond membership. So those go on sale to those members on April 24th. And then after we do that, it'll open to the general public on May 1st. Yeah. And one note, I don't know if people just aren't good at math, but the diamond membership gets you 10% off of the ticket sales. Right? And so at $20, a month, you know, 10% of a secrets room, depending on which room you get, but let's just, you know, some of them are a little more, some of them are less, but around $1,000 for the three day weekend, right? So if it's $1,000 and you save 10%, that's saving a hundred bucks, right? So that's six months worth of diamond membership that you're saving to book secrets. Yeah. Right. And you don't have to, I mean, like we want you to have a diamond membership all year long. Honestly, it pays for our staff's payroll, like just true transparency. But so what I'm saying is if you go to If you're both Secrets and you are a Diamond member and you pay $20 a month, it's basically you're getting the membership for free at that point. And the nice thing about having the membership is you have access then to the wall, who's RSVP'd, you can message people, you can post. So like you can be an active part of the community leading up to the event and have all access to all that. So to me, if I was going on to Secrets, I would want to be able to message people and talk to people, see what people are posting and stuff like that. So the math to me, you know, we kind of purposely built it that way to kind of encourage you to be a to be a member, because, you know, I think the more memberships we have, the better the community is. Correct. OK, so for next up after. Well, before that, I guess we kind of jumped ahead a little is we are doing a takeover in Salt Lake City. This is the furthest west we've ever gone. We've ever gone. So the sanctuary is a new club in that. I guess they've been over maybe closer. a year now? No, I think it was end of last year they opened. Oh, end of 2025? Yeah. Oh, okay, cool. So, you know, six months-ish. So, we're doing a takeover there. The dates for that are May 15th through the 16th. The themes are little black dress and naughty neon. So, if you are anywhere on that side of the country and you've been wanting to come to a Swinger Study event, but you don't want to fly all the way to the East Coast or to Florida or wherever, this is your chance. We don't have any plans of going any, I mean, we'd love to keep going with, but as of right now, there are no additional plans. Correct. For anywhere closer to, like, California. We get a lot of California, a lot of Arizona. Arizona, Nevada. If you're in that neck of woods, this is the closest that we see in the foreseeable future coming. Definitely in 2026. Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, so we'll be there. We also, if you want to buy tickets for that, you can go to swingersidey.net. We also are going to have some, like, So we're going to, on Friday the 15th, I'm sorry, on Saturday the 16th, we're going to do a meet and greet luncheon at the Hall Pass Food Hall in Salt Lake City. Which is like the perfect name, Hall Pass. I didn't even think about that. So, you know, let's say you can't, if you can't get out because, like, you can't get out that night, you're on babysitter. If you want to come to the day portion, you can. It's free. We're just all going to, like. We'll be in vanilla clothes. Some people might be wearing a pineapple or something. Yeah, but it's just, I mean, great. So we're literally just, you order your food, you sit down, you chat with people. It's very vanilla, very, just like an opportunity to meet people outside of the club. Yeah, super excited about Salt Lake. The Sanctuary, like you said, is a new club that just opened up. But I've heard it's exploding. And I've heard the club itself is very high end, that they've put a lot of serious money into the club. They're running it very well. You have to be vetted. They actually do background checks on everybody. Safety, consent, all that stuff is at the forefront. So I think it's the type of club that we like to do business with. And because it's kind of a new and up-and-coming club, it's kind of the perfect, that's kind of the clubs that we end up connecting with. Because they're trying to get the word out that they're open and stuff now. We're very excited about going. We have friends that are on that side of the country that are going to come. We have friends coming all the way from Boston and the East Coast to come to this party because they're excited about it. Yeah. We're super excited. So we are very much. I almost feel like we should go out a little earlier so we can just spend a day or two and do some like Salt Lake tourism. In my mind, we are. Okay. Okay. In my mind, we're driving, which is a whole nother story. But in my mind, we're leaving like Sunday. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know that was in your mind. I've never been to Utah. So like on a personal note, I would just, I want to go and like, usually we come in and we, You might be there like a day early. Yeah. And but because I've never been that far, I would I would really like to have a day or two to sightsee. So if we'll climb a mountain, hiking, maybe like a flat mountain. Could drive up a mountain. Yeah. So if you're in the area and there's like like if there's a restaurant, like I'm a little bougie, like if there's a restaurant or like a cool place or a cool something we need to go to, let us know because we definitely want to do that. Yes. Okay. Super excited about that. And then the other thing I want to talk about while we still is the June Chattanooga electric pleasures event. Do you have the information on that? So if you don't know in June, and Lacey is going to tell you the dates here in a second, we are doing another hotel takeover in Chattanooga, Tennessee, which is actually really close to us. But if another beautiful, if you are looking for a tourist type destination, me and Lacey actually got engaged on Lookout Mountain. Yeah. And there's like a whole train that you can take up the mountain. And it's a cute little kind of tourist town. So the dates are June 12th through the 13th. And because this is Pride Month and because of this brand very much is bi, LGBTQ friendly, we are definitely leaning into that Pride Month. So, you know, instead of doing themes, we do colors. So one night it's just rainbow. The other night we're doing rainbow glow. So definitely lean into that. We're leaning very heavily into that whole aspect. So we are very excited. It's probably about halfway sold out. Yeah. Yeah. That one is too. Yeah. And I think so it's musical. If you don't know what Electric Pleasures is, you're hearing this for the first time. It's like music festival vibes, but alternative lifestyle friendly. Right. So, you know, we're literally going to have probably anywhere between 10 and 15 DJs are going to be swapping out every hour. They're going to be playing, you know, mostly EDM type music. But we've actually talked about maybe even. It might be a live band or something mixed in there. And it's an outdoor. So it's a topless pool party. It's going to be the debut of the stage that we imported. If we can figure out how to put it together. I'm leaving the state. It's going to be outdoor-indoor. So during the day, we're going to be outdoors by the pool with the stage. And then at night, we're going to go indoors into the ballroom, which will be set up kind of like a club. So if you went to the January 1, similar vibes to that, but hopefully better weather. Outdoor Festival-y kind of vibe. Yes. I'm super excited about that. So if you're anywhere near Chattanooga or if you want to travel for that, we'd love to have you. Like Lacey said, I think over half the rooms are gone for that one at this point. So you can find links to that on swingersociety.net or the direct link to Electric Pleasures is electric-pleasures.com. I know you said that was the last thing you mentioned, but I do want to shout out one more thing. Okay. So we host a week at Hedo every year. Oh. almost sold out. Like, we are within days of it selling out. And last year, there was 40 couples on the waiting list. So, if you are at all think you want to go, now is the time to snag a room before you then have to get on that waiting list. And you can make payments. You can set up a payment plan. So, the dates are June 25th through August 1st. And it is Young Lifestyle Week. That is young at heart. There is no age requirement. As long as you're there to dance and have fun and party and fuck your friends, that's what. Right. There's going to be some EDM music. Yeah. But there's probably also going to be some hip hop and R&B and, you know, top 40 type music as well. Yeah. So our group and My Frisky Business come together that week. Topless Travel. Topless Travel. Party Mark. Yes. If you remember back when Secrets had Party Mark, those vibes, that's what this week is like. So we usually take 20, 25, If you really want to get to know us, Hedo is the way to go. Yeah. Because we all, we do everything together. You have breakfast together. You have lunch together. You eat dinner together. You're in the pool. Everything you do at Hedo is together. It's a smaller resort. A lot less people. We're there for seven days. You literally just get our undivided attention for a week. And it's honestly one of the only times in the whole year that Dan and I get to relax and just have fun. And I feel like we've really gotten, really good friendships over the years from that week no i agree yeah he does like secrets except for we're not throwing the party yeah and we're actually in the pool every day yes and because it's only 200 people usually on the whole resort and of those 200 only like 50 of them are like in our group it it makes it a lot easier to get to know people uh so yeah super excited about hito uh don't miss that one no for sure all right so how do they book it swingersociety.net swingersociety.net yep that's how you book it and uh There's a booking link that'll take you right to Topless' website and you book there. So thank you for sticking around, letting us plug all of our different things. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's a lot of stuff going on. This is like our prime time of the year, you know, coming into the next few months. Yeah. Naughty New Orleans sold out. Mm-hmm. So I don't even know. I don't know if you're going to be able to get a day pass for Naughty. I don't know. Because they usually, if they sell all three hotels, you know, usually they're close to fire code for the Astor. Stay tuned if you didn't go this year or if you can't get a room this year. There is usually cancellation lists and stuff like that. But make sure you book next year early. Okay. We tell people all the time, but they don't listen. They don't listen. All right. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? That's it. All right, guys. I think with that in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. Bye. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. 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