Tuesday Talks: Let's Talk Test Results

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If you want to see more of our You can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. Make sure you head on over to theswingnation.net and keep up to date on all things Swing Nation. We thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you next time. Goodbye. That's so hot. And Dan and Wasey. With Wasey and Dan. Okay. Okay. This week's question, you've brought out the iPad. I did. We left the phone at home. We left the phone at home, so we went to the iPad, and it's connected to the same Apple whatever, so you got text messages on there, and you got a text. I did. All right, let's hear it. Okay, so it says, Hi, Dan and Lacey. I know you often talk about sexual health and protection, but I'm wondering, do you ever spontaneously hook up with other people without asking them for test results, which would probably put a damper on the mood. I mean, if you just show up to an orgy and everyone is naked and ready to play, how exactly do you go about asking for test results without ending the sexy mood? Great question, especially coming off of, we did one on protection. Yeah, we just did a Tuesday talk talking about condom usage. And so I think this is a natural follow-up to condom usage is kind of a little bit of the etiquette of asking for receiving test results. Do you still play with people if you don't get test results? How's all that work? And I really want to, like, we're going to give you, like, the no bullshit the way we do things. And it's not necessarily the way I would teach and tell you to do things. We're just going to be honest. And, like, we're not experts here, guys. Like, we just, this is what we found works for us. So take it with a grain of salt. Do what makes you feel right. Right. And I can remember, like, when I was in the Army, they always used to do, like, okay, you've got to learn how to do this the right way so that when you cut corners, you basically, like, understand the risks that you're taking, right? So I really think in the lifestyle, you should educate yourself on STDs and STIs and how they spread and oral versus, you know, vaginal and how to get tested and where to get tested. And I think you should do all those things on as regular of a basis as you possibly can. And I believe that to my core. And I think me and you do a good job of actually living that in our lifestyle experience. We try our best to stick to what we teach. That being said, we're still real fucking people. And we still like having sex. And we don't make things super awkward. And for the most part, the people we engage with, we have good long-term standing relationships with and we trust. Let's step back for a minute because I think you're jumping ahead. So the answer to your question is we spontaneously hook up with people sometimes and don't ask. That's the truth. Semi-regularly, yeah. That's the truth. It happens. Is it somebody that we don't know their name, don't know anything about them? Sometimes. Not super often. Right. But usually, in that case, somebody in our friend group has kind of brought them in. Yeah. There's been a few random playroom encounters. Yeah, I can think of, like, Hedo. Remember one time that girl started sucking your dick? The girl that tried to fight you earlier? Yeah. Well, her husband. I tried to fight her husband. But, like, you know, so I think if you listen to our podcast, which we are, we don't really say names much anymore. Right. Like, exactly who we fuck. Right. it's become a thing but for the most part if we're gonna just fuck somebody brandy we kind of tell you that or give you that information so the truth is yes sometimes we hop in an orgy without saying excuse me sir may i see your std sti results i mean that happens it happens everywhere in the lifestyle and we would be hypocrites if we sat here and said that we never do that because that is 100 false yeah and i think it's important to realize like so me and you have been in the lifestyle 10 years at this point, right? Yeah. Knock on wood. We have never caught an STD or an STI, right? And it's because we get tested very early. We always use protection. And for the most part, we engage with like known people that we know are getting tested regularly, right? Then like you're saying, a few times a year, you know, maybe at a Hedo, maybe at a Naughty in New Orleans, you know, and what most three or four times a year, we might hook up with random people that we don't know. But we're using protection. We are tested. We are doing all the work on are in. Right. And then there's even some assumption, you know, and then you hope these people, even though they're random people that you haven't had a conversation with, that they're also doing the right thing. Right. And I really think that in this community, most people are not everybody, but a lot of people that take this seriously are doing the right thing. So there's kind of like, even if you don't, you know, talk to people ahead of time and exchange test results. Well, if there are swingers and they're part of this community and they're doing the right thing, you're good either way. You know what I mean? But I think to that point. So if you go to a playroom, so for us, right? For the most part, we engage with our friends 80% of the time, right? Then the other percent of the time is we meet new people, right? And it's usually through our friends, but sometimes maybe organically in a pool at Secrets or at Hedo, you know, just at a party or something like that. And then in those conversations, if we have a conversation with those people, we just, we test, we talk about how long you've been in the lifestyle. We talk about what's your play style. Yeah. You're asking, like, you're getting to know them, but you're asking, like, educated questions because you're going to take their answers and you're like judging not judging them but you're you're making like a risk assessment for like a lack of a better word i mean you're kind of like getting to know them kind of and then you're also watching them you know like so let's say hedo or secrets you know maybe you get there thursday or you know you're watching how they engage are they hopping around to different people or you know are they like sucking ran like a whole bunch of random dicks on the side of the pull. You're kind of taking all that in. Well, sometimes a bunch of random people suck my dick. So don't judge me for that. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. But it is, for me, it is. It's something to consider. Like if a guy literally just has his dick out and is letting every single girl, which yes, you do that sometimes. But like if you're just, you know, if you're letting like a train of women line up, you know, like that's something I'm going to notate. You know, like you don't want them to be the sluttiest person there, but you also don't want them to be like the prudest there. So you have to kind So, like, all of that, you're kind of taking that in and determining if, like... It's like a risk assessment. Yeah. Yeah. No, I 100% agree with that. And then sometimes in those conversations, you know, condom usage comes up frequently. Like, oh, yeah, we always use condoms. Oh, do you have any allergies? You know? Yeah, what's your, like, what's your play style? So, we're a full swap couple. We always use protection. We do not play. And we communicate through group messaging. So, that right there has very quickly known, let them know, we're not separating and you better use a fucking condom. Yeah. And sometimes you might get a guy who says something like, oh, I hate using condoms. That sucks. Lacey's like, oh. And that's immediately in her brain. That's, well, not fucking you. Yeah. So you have to, like, while you're getting to know people, you're asking these questions. Right. I do want to point out, though, like, for instance, I'm in a bunch of, like, I'm not in a bunch. I used to be in a bunch. I'm in a few, like, group chats with, like, a lot of, like, women, especially, like, girls. And leading up to going to an event, we'll all show, hey just got my STD test and like send a picture or or like hey I got my test results in just thought I'd share them you you might not be fucking anybody but it's like it's just like kind of I would encourage it encourages other people to like show theirs and then like oh well we didn't get tested maybe maybe we need to you know it just kind of like sparks a conversation if you are doing the right thing so if you are going and you're getting tested regularly I encourage you to take a picture with that little band-aid on your arm and send that in all the group chats that you're in, right? If you get your test results and you're comfortable with it, crop out your personal information. Yeah, you can cut, you can like black out your last name. Scrap out your last name or whatever, maybe your address or any, you know, any personal information that's on there. And then drop, and if you're comfortable, drop that. Because this is how you change like the culture of the lifestyle, right? And just make it part of like your conversation. So, like, let's say you do all of that prior to even a Let's say you're in a big telegram group with a bunch of Hedo people like you're going there you don't know any of them we're like hey guys just got my test started you know like stuff like that and then when you get there like that's already done you've already you know like it just kind of it it puts you one step ahead and it lets also people know hey I care about my health I care about your health so you might not like actually know the person but there is a potential there that you're going to hook up I think it's sexy I think if I I see a couple like that and they're sharing that information it almost lowers like I'm probably more apt to fuck you now right because I know I don't have that's something I don't have to worry about oh look they're getting tested oh look they're doing the right thing like just to share like a personal experience right now we're getting ready to go over secrets we leave in a week and people are starting to post hey we got our test we're not getting tested until we get to literally like the day before like Orlando so like we can't do that and I'm like I feel uneasy like I need to go like I need that picture I need to share it with everybody it's just kind of making it So that way, when you are in an organic moment, you can just enjoy and not necessarily... Right, all that's done ahead of time. Yeah. Also, I think, you know, he said, like, if you walk into an orgy and everybody's already naked, yeah, I get it. That's a hard conversation to have. But if you're all walking into a playroom and you're looking for a bed and then everybody starts taking their clothes off and stuff, make it part of your conversation. Be like, hey, guys, before we start, I need everyone here to wear condoms. That's a hard rule. For me, don't put it in my ass. Also, I got tested this week. Everything came back clear, so I'm good to go. You don't have to be like, okay, class, let's go around the room. When's the last time you get, you just put your information out. You just put your information out. And it, honestly, it's sexy. I know it doesn't seem sexy, but it's really, like, I've had guys be like, does anybody have a latex allergy? Which sounds like kind of medical and boring. That is fucking hot. When a guy cares about a woman enough to be like, Hey, I just before we engage, I want to make sure that no one has any allergies. You know, it's just like, make it sexy, make it part of it. We can also take our own advice here. I'm not going to pretend. Yeah, we don't do that every time. We don't do it every time. And honestly, the times we don't do it is when every time if there's an issue, we're like, fuck. Before that orgy, we didn't go around the room and talk about it. And so that guy tried to slip his dick in that girl without a condom on because we didn't talk about it. And it's everybody's fault because we didn't do it. And like, I think it was last year at Splash, One of our friends, Stacy, she went around and she was like, hey, you know, don't put it in my ass. Wear a condom. And if you are switching partners, please clean off and put a new condom on. Stuff like that is so important because not everybody that's engaging in that orgy is going to be like experts. You know, they might not know. They'd be like, hold on, wait, what does that mean? Right. And then if you don't do it, there's no excuse. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Because then because then if somebody because we've recently seen somebody not use a condom in a play. because they were with a bunch of content creators. They just assumed, which I'm not really faulting that person. There was no conversation. There was no conversation. There is no one at fault except for everyone because we didn't talk about it. So I hope that helps. Right. So all that to say, though, I don't think you have to stop in the middle of an orgy and say, when is the last time you got tested? Yeah. Right. Now, if you want to do that, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. We're in the middle of an orgy, and there's some hot couple that's beside us, and she's like, can I suck your dick? My answer nine out of ten times is going to be, go ahead. And I know in that situation, I'm assuming some risk, right? But I'm also, like you said, this person, if I've seen them throughout the day, if we've had conversations throughout the day, like I've, you know, I'm evaluating them, or sometimes I may be like, but I'm still, I'm going to use a condom. If we're having oral, I mean, if she has like stuff all over her face, around her lips, I'm going to say no, you know what I mean? But I'm doing a little of assessment, and I'm going to take some Yeah. And again, doing this for 10 years, it's never been a problem. Not to say that sometime we might come back from an event and I might have oral gonorrhea, right? And if that happens, I'll go get it treated and taken care of and lesson learned, right? And I might be a little more picky about who I let suck my dick going forward. But this lifestyle, it's about having fun. It's about having good experiences. I don't think you always have to kill the vibe. But I also think if you're trying to do the best and the right thing as much as you possibly can, that that's that is sexy, but I think there's exceptions to every rule, and I think it kind of goes back to what I said about the army. It's when you know the rules, when you know how to do things the right way, when you do cut corners, you then fully understand the risk that you're taking when you cut those corners, and I think it's okay to cut corners sometimes, and sometimes when you do that, it's a hell of a fucking night. I mean, honestly, some of our favorite times are kind of when you just say fuck it and jump in, which I mean, I don't encourage you to do that every time, but it's definitely some of the And I think the more you're in this, the more, it's just, again, you know, the more you do something, the more you can kind of, you can assess better if it's okay to do it in that situation, right? You can kind of get a better read on couples. You can kind of get a little bit like, okay, is this a responsible person that I want to engage with or not? You know, you can kind of start to figure out what things to look for, what red flags to look for. And so. And you're making an assessment without even really, it's not even like a conscious thing. You know, you're just But it can definitely be a good time. So I wouldn't say that you have to stop and ask for results all the time. And most of the time when we see people sharing results, I think that is important too, is a lot of people don't share results like, here, look at my phone right in an orgy or something like that. I've never seen anybody in an orgy pull out their test results. It's more of like a conversation. I think it's easier to do it beforehand. Discord chats and like you said, the Telegram chats, that's the best time to get all that information and put it out there ahead of time and encourage everybody else that's going to do the same. I agree. All right. You think that answers that question on how to share your test results? And do you still engage with people if you haven't seen their test results? I think, you know, doing it ahead of time and in those group chats is the best way. And then when you're talking to people, just putting it out there. And then again, if you put it out there and the person says, oh, yeah, I got tested last week, there's some trust that they actually did. because you're not looking at their paperwork. Even when you do look at people's paperwork, often things are cropped and edited. People don't want to show you their full names and addresses. I've never had somebody crop anything out. Well, if you know them, though. If you were to drop yours in just a random group text, you probably would crop out some stuff, right? I wouldn't drop it in a random group chat. I know the people that I'm in the chat with. I can see you blacking out. If you're in a huge telegram group, I would probably black out my last name. You don't know. People could be, you know, if somebody wants to be nefarious, right, they could be Photoshopping or AI-ing or who knows test results and stuff like that. So at some level, you're taking risks just by engaging no matter what. I think the lifestyle has its risks, period, out the gate, just walking in the door. There are risks, and then you have to decide where you're comfortable at. Right, and just like we talked about on the condom episode, just because they have a test, if that test is a week old or two weeks old, that doesn't mean that they're They take care of their health. They take this seriously. That's really what you're learning about them. Yeah. All right. So I think that sums it up. If you have a Tuesday talk question, we would love to hear from you. There's a few different ways that you can get a hold of us. You can email us at the swing nation at gmail.com. You can send a voice note to the email. You can also send a video. Yeah. If you want to do a video, me and Lacey talked about it. We can maybe put your video up on the TV here. Yeah. And, uh, We could watch you and listen to your question. Yeah. Which would be fun. We've never done that before. But obviously, if you send a video, you're consenting to us putting your picture, and that'll be on YouTube. So, you know, don't do that unless you want your video on YouTube. Unless you're out, don't do it. And then you can call or text, and that phone number is? 972-302-7716. One more time. 972-302-7716. All right. Anything else for the Swing Nation? No, that's it. All right. I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, we have a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. 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