Tuesday Talks: Newbie Advice for Hedonism II

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If you want to party with us and the other faces and names that you know from social media and TikTok, head on over to swingersociety.net. Can't wait to see you there. Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy and Southern Girl, and we are back with another rendition of the Swing Nation podcast. Tuesday Talks. We are. Talking Tuesday. With Dan and Lacey. I almost left you hanging there. Yeah, I thought. You looked at me like, don't leave me hanging. All right. Are you ready for this week's question? I am. All right. Let's go to the phone line. Hey, Dan and Lacey. This is Kim. First, Dan, thank you for your service. I'm an Army retiree and my boyfriend is a veteran. We are Ying Yang 32, Kim and Shane, on Swingers Society. We're new there. I'm new to the lifestyle and we're planning to attend HEDO in 2026. We have friends who attended in 2025 and they loved it and encouraged us to attend. They expressed how nice and friendly you both were. My question is, what is your advice for a newbie at HEDO, clothing for restaurants, and I'm a little shy also. Should I wear a cover-up with nothing under it or just be brave and just bear it? Also, I'm a little curvy, and sometimes that bothers me, but I'm working on it. So anyway, we can't wait to meet you in person, and I love your podcast. So hope to see you soon. Bye. I love her. I love her as well. So that's a call from Kim. Yes. And she is going to Hedo next year. Sounds like she had friends that went to Hedo with us last year. Yeah, I'm curious who they are. They loved it. Also said, We're not nice, which is, I appreciate that, because we do get a lot of the... No, you said, what'd you say? I said, apparently they said that we were nice. Oh, I thought you said not nice. I was like, wait, no, that's not what she said, yes. Yeah, they said we were friendly. Well, I will say, to comment on that before we jump into the question, Hedo is a great way for me to explain this. Hedo, we have seven days, well, seven nights, really, so eight days, seven nights, and we really are able to really get to know people. It's also like, 130 rooms or something like that. Am I correct there? It's like 230 rooms. Oh, okay. I'm close. But we only usually book, you know, 20. Yeah, but even at its max capacity, that is less than like 500 people, where a Bliss Cruise minimum, it's like 3,000 people. So it's a lot easier for us to really have a good conversation, talk and get to know people, especially when you have that seven, eight day window. But it really allows for the opportunity to do that. And so for me personally, I really like that because we are really able to meet people, get to know them, show them who we really are, you know, really learn who they are. It's a lot easier than like on a cruise where it is very quick and there is a lot of people. So if you've ever wondered, you know, what's good and what's bad about, you know, cruise versus Hedo, that would be definitely one of them. Yeah, I agree. The Hedo is nice because there's a long, you get a full week. Yes. And there's, you know, less than, extremely less people. So you see each other a lot more. You do. Everybody sees each other in the nude pool every day. Everybody's eating at the same time. Everybody's going to the pool at the same time. You're on the same schedule for the most part. So it's very hard to like completely miss someone where you could go on a bliss cruise and someone could be there and you could never see them. Yeah, that's the thing. I think we've had people book with us on bliss cruise. We'll see them like the first day at the meet and greet and never see them for the week again. Yeah, we're at Hedo. We try really hard to do more of like group dinners. I mean, obviously, some people are going to be loners and we're not going to force them to be with us. But we try really hard to kind of keep people together. Anyway, so let's get to her question. So what was her question? So she had several questions about what to wear. Okay, so I know she mentioned dinner. So it can go one of two ways. You could just wear something casual. to dinner and then change into your theme outfit after. Or you can go to dinner in your theme outfit. I will say that Hedo, you wear your theme outfits the shortest out of any event, any group. I feel like Bliss is similar, but yeah. Yeah, they're very similar. But if you don't wear your outfit to dinner, I find that you don't really wear it much at all. I agree. Unless you are like at early dinner. Because we've done that a few times. Because for instance, I love the hibachi. If you don't go right when they open, a lot of times you'll end up waiting like two hours. So there's been a couple of times where we've just thrown something on, went and had dinner, and then went back and got ready and then came back for like the show and stuff. And then we had our theme outfit on there. But really, you'll find it's very laid back. So whatever you are feeling is fine. Yeah. To be honest with you, you can't go wrong. You can't make a bad decision. Right. And honestly, sometimes I change it up. back and forth, depending on how I'm feeling, how tired I am, how sunburned I am, how hungover I am, all of those things can affect what I'm wearing to dinner and when I'm putting my thing in my outfit on. Yeah, I would agree. I think my advice would be, one, don't overdo your outfits because it is hot and keto. And like you're saying, you don't wear your outfit for that long. So like some big elaborate thing, I don't know if it's really worth putting all that. You know, we see people with wings and hats and all kinds, which you've done that too. Yeah, I mean, I think you could go into it with the best intention. The problem for me is you do a lot of pool time at Hedo. It's a lot of sun. So after you've been at the pool, you've been drinking, you're kind of tired, you're kind of regrouping to get the thought of putting a ton of accessories and a ton like, I remember one time I had like a lace outfit. You'll probably be sunburned towards the end of the week. Yeah, like the lace hurt my sunburn. So I've tried to, especially if you're coming with us in the time of year, I try to do silk, sheer, like things like that. that are going to feel good on your skin, that are not very heavy. That would be my advice to you. Make it as easy to put on as possible because it's going to make your night a lot better. Because where dinner is and the shows are at Hedo, it's under, it's indoors, but it's all open. So there's no air. Right. It's open air, but under a roof. So that honestly, and it's usually hotter under that roof than it is like out in the open air. You know, and there are a lot of are cooking food and they have all the heaters on the food underneath that roof so it can be 10 20 degrees it's hotter in that dining room than it is just outside so a lot of times you're sitting and you're watching you've you've had food you've had a drink you're sitting you're watching a show it can get kind of tiring in there there's a kind of a lull in there and so having a comfortable outfit definitely helps with that okay and then she did specifically ask about clothes to wear inside the restaurants so if you don't know hito there's a main dining and then there's two or three like what you'd call specialty dining, although they're included. There's no extra charge for that. And so what you wear in those, all of the dining areas is kind of the same. Yeah, the rules are your nipples and your vagina have to be covered. I think it's technically the rules. Dan one time went to try to get a drink without a towel on and they made him put a towel around his waist. So for the most part, you can wear anything in any of them. It does, as long as those two things. But being covered could also mean like being covered by a sheer dress, like she said. or something like that, that as long as you have something on top of you, you're usually pretty fine. So as long as your intimate parts are covered, you can wear that outfit into the restaurants and that's perfectly fine. And I've wore little next to nothing all the way to like a full on full, like floor length dress on like formal night and been fine. So. Okay. Then her other questions kind of seemed like they, they went around a lot of like body positivity stuff. So there were some talks about, um, you know, could she wear a sheer If she's not comfortable, or should she just bear it all? Yeah, so I want to tell this story. The first time we went to Hedo, I knew it was clothing optional. You know, well, you can't have any clothes on at the nude pool. I knew that. I can remember getting ready. We were, you know, got up, had our breakfast, and we were getting ready to go to the nude pool. I changed my outfit like three or four times because I was so anxious about what I was going to wear. When reality is, I just got down there, and had to take it all off and shove it in a bag. So I don't know why I was nervous. Really, that's the truth. I do know why. I was nervous. I wasn't super confident in my body. And to be honest with you, I've been small and I've been bigger at Hedo and everything in between. And I've felt that way every time, usually at the first of the week. I would say wear to the pull whatever you need to get yourself down there. You know, I mean, don't overthink. If you need jeans and tennis shoes, in a t-shirt to walk your ass down there. If that's what it takes to be confident, do it. Because once you get down there, everybody else is naked. You're going to have to take it off. So it really doesn't matter. I will say, though, it's very common to be self-conscious in the first of the week. Pretty much unless somebody is like a Hedo veteran is going to feel that way. Even myself, who's been to Hedo quite a few times, I'm still a little nervous the first few days. It takes me a day or two to kind of get back in the... I'm not a huge fan of walking around with my dick flopping around. You know what I mean? It isn't a super comfortable thing for me. But again, like you said, it's always like that first day or two, you think about it, and then it kind of goes away. And then putting clothes on at the end of the week feels weird. Yeah, because everybody's naked. And nobody's body's perfect. I mean, there is a very small percent of people there that are like... Abs, no stretch marks. I would say the vast majority of us have had children, have stretched marks, half scars, half whatever. And everybody is usually a little self-conscious about that. And so I think that's important to remind yourself, but also give yourself grace and it's okay. Give yourself those first few days because it's, it's going to, it's, that's not natural. It's not normal for us to just take our clothes off and walk around. So that's okay that it takes a day or two. Okay. Then I think her last question is she said that they're pretty new to the lifestyle. So do you want to talk a little bit about going into something like hedonism? and maybe not having a lot of lifestyle experience? Is that something you'd recommend? How do us a newbie couple handle that? Well, I mean, we've had several friends that went for the first time. We met Jersey couple, which you've heard us talk about. If you don't know that story, go back and find our first Hedo podcast that we did. There we talk about them. It was their first time. So it can totally be done. Every time we go, we meet people that are pretty brand new to the lifestyle. And they're fine. They all end up fine. It's a little scary. And I think it's a little scary for somebody that's been doing it for a while. So especially if you're brand new, I would definitely just, again, give yourself a little grace. It takes even people that have been at this for a while, several days to kind of get into the groove. So it's going to take you that as well. Yeah, I will say, I think, Hedo, the nice thing about it is it's like you can go in a brand new couple to the lifestyle. And by the time you leave, I feel like it's almost like you're an expert yeah you know I'm saying like I think it would take like 20 trips to the club yeah or more to get the same experience you get out of a week at Hedo you're just immersed in the lifestyle for seven days you have so many opportunities to engage and to meet people you're just kind of like living the lifestyle for a full week where I think if you were to do that at a club or something like that I mean you're talking about you'd have to go to a club for a probably for a year or two to get the same amount of comfort level it's Especially because it's all day. It's all during the day, all at night. Yeah, I know. I totally agree. I guess some advice points I would give you is you have to make friends. So especially in the pool, talk to people. Say, hey, I'm lazy. This is my first time at Hedo. I'm a little nervous. Have you all been here before? I say take your spouse or your partner to the playroom. You can go in there with no intentions of playing or you can even promise each other we're not going to engage with anybody else. But just go in there. Find a bed. Enjoy each other. A lot of times getting through the door is the hardest part. Yeah. And don't wait three days in. Do it the first night. Go. Like, be on a bed by yourself. Watch people. Touch each other. You know, just kind of take it all in. I think that will make the next few days a little bit easier. Just rip that Band-Aid off. You don't have to sleep with anybody. I'm not telling you to go jump in the middle of an orgy. I'm saying just go in. like immerse yourself in what's happening in that room. Yeah. I completely agree. I think it's funny. We see the same thing. It doesn't matter if it's Bliss Cruz or Hedo or Naughty New Orleans. It's always like the first two or three days. Everybody's kind of like feeling each other out and kind of figuring it out. We do this. Then you kind of get to the middle and then people will start playing. And then by the end of the week, it's like, okay, we got to have an order tonight and I want to do DVP and I want to get gang banged. And I want it. It's like, then you're trying to like fit that whole week's worth of experience. into like the last couple days and get like knock everything out. For sure. So I do think you're right. If you can, we're going to do the same thing. So, you know, we've been doing this for a while and have quite a bit of experience and we still do this. But I think you're right. The quicker that you can, you're saying on the first night, just go to the playroom just to have the experience. So I think the quicker you can kind of get yourself comfortable, the more enjoyment you can have while you're there. Yeah. But don't rush it. Like you said, you know, another thing I think is talk to your partner. Like what are your expectations going into this? What are you comfortable with? What are you not comfortable with? Are you going with the flow? Are you open? Like you're saying, you want to do parallel play. Maybe you're not trying to fuck anybody all week. So I think getting on the same page with your partner ahead of time is kind of talk through all the things. And then, like what we always say, push yourself. If you want to have experiences, I think getting outside of your comfort zone is kind of the key to that. Yeah, like if you really want to have experiences and you're not meeting people and things are not happening, you're going to have to sit with somebody at dinner. or sit with somebody at breakfast. Or there's little tables in the nude pool. You're going to have to go and sit next to someone and start a conversation. It can be odd. It can be a little bit uncomfortable at first. But I found the best times I've ever had is when I pushed myself outside of my comfort zone. And that's something that I'm still working on today. So I'm definitely no expert at it. And I also need to work on that. So you're not alone I think that's for a lot of couples or a lot of especially new couples I think they go to these things and they stand in the corner and they just kind of watch and first and then they'll go home and be like disappointed that nothing happened and it's like you're never if you just go waiting for the hottest couple to come walking up to you in a full swap perfect situation to fall in your lap like that's not how this works you really there's a lot of work and effort that goes on to make those connections and it has to be a two-way street you have to put in the effort as well Yes, I agree. So I think that's pretty important. Then I think the only other thing she talked about that we didn't mention is the fact that her and her boyfriend are veterans. Oh, that's awesome. So yeah, huge thank you for your service. It's funny. I think the longer we kind of do this and have this platform, we keep running into more and more of the veteran community and the lifestyle community that has military service and things like that. We were just talking about that with somebody. With Bob. Okay, yes. So Bob from Naughty in Orleans, if you didn't listen to the last episode, he was in the Coast Guard. some conversation about that and we you know me and Lacey were just talking about this other night she's like you're so passionate about the advocacy and you know part of it she's like I don't know if I'm as passionate as you and I'm like well I think a lot of it is you know when you go and you fight for freedoms when you see those freedoms encroached upon you just you have a different opinion of that so I think I don't know I don't know so thank you for your service but I do think I want to do more with that like with the veteran community and I don't know how to do that But I think it's something I want to think about. How can we get the veteran community? I need another project. That's what I need. It's another mission and project in my life. Huge thank you. I love your drive and your love for all things lifestyle. Even though it drives me nuts. I hope that helps answer your question. If you want to go to Hedo, I think there are still some rooms available. You can go to swingersociety.net and you can book Hedo 2026. going, what, the end of July? Is that correct? Yes, first of August. End of July, first of August. I will say, though, if that's something that you're interested in, you can do a payment plan. And it sold out last year. And there was 40 couples on the waiting list. So if this is something that you are even at all thinking about going. Go make your deposit. Go make your deposit. And obviously find out if you cancel what the rules are around that. Because I don't want you to lose any money. But I just don't want people. This is what happens every year. every time we do stuff like this, people wait to the last minute. And then all of our friends and people we know are texting us and there's no rooms. And we're like... Yeah, especially for this, we can't. Yeah, there's not much we can do about it. For this takeover of Hedo, it's called Young Lifestylers Week. And it's us, Topless Travel, and then My Frisky Business combined for it. And last year was the first year that we had done this week with the three groups together. Yeah, and the resort was sold out. And I think it was sold out real early, earlier than it usually happens. So I think it's going to be a big week. I think as we continue to do this, the community for that week will kind of grow. So yeah, definitely if you want a room for Hedo, go book that now, swingerside.net. Yeah. And don't let Young Lifestyle Week freak you out. Yeah. We're 41. It is young at heart. Yeah. I'll be honest with you. Last year, I would not have looked at the group and thought Young Swinger would. Yeah. I think, no, don't get me wrong. Everybody had a great time and was definitely young at heart, but it was not. Not all 20-year-olds. Let me make that very, very clear. It was not. It was majority 40-year-olds. Yeah. And then there was even some 15, 60-year-olds. Yeah. There was a few 20-year-olds. Yeah, there was. But so I just, I don't want people to get discouraged if they hear that because it's not what you think. It's more young, like you said, young energy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? Okay. If you have a Tuesday Talk question, we'd love to hear from you. We actually could use some more. 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