Tuesday Talks: How to Find the Perfect Third for Your First MFM

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If you want to party with us and the other faces and names that you know from social media and TikTok, head on over to swingersociety.net. Can't wait to see you there. Hey there, Pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your host, Northern Guy. Southern Girl. And we are back with another episode of Tuesday Talks. We are. Talking Tuesday with Dana Lacey. How about that high note? So I was listening. I don't listen to the podcast. But I was listening to you edit a little bit. Well, I take that back. I wasn't listening to you edit. You wear headphones. But a lot of times, like while it's uploading, you'll leave the computer and go do something else. So like once it's finished, it'll start playing. They'll stop it, you know, when you hear it go off. And I heard a little bit of it last night. So does it play like a jingle and then we just say what we just said? Yes. Okay, because I was like, I heard it twice. And I was like, why are we saying it twice? Well, it's probably because, yeah, it was inserted to the, you know. And then we say it after. Yeah. I didn't realize that. Oh. That's awesome. Well, but it's going to change to whatever. Yeah, when we get one. Yeah. So are you saying we shouldn't say it after we say it? I'm not saying anything. I was just. Surprised you? Yeah. Because like I heard it and then I was like, oh, okay. And then I heard me say, how about that high note? I just didn't realize it was like repetitive, I guess. Yeah. So there's like that snippet intro. Yeah. Whatever we say is what we say. Yeah. So next week, maybe I'll come up with something different. I don't know. I'm not surprised you. Oh, you're going to come up with your own? Maybe. Okay. Oh, God. Now I'm pressure. I didn't even. I would like to see that. I didn't even think it out. You sing something random. I never said anything about singing. Oh, you're just going to say? I don't know. I didn't. There was no pre-thought to that thought. I just spoke. And now I'm feeling a lot of pressure. Okay. Yeah. We'll see what happens. You're not going to sing anything or say anything different, probably. I don't know. If I had to guess. I'm going to think about it. Okay. Okay. I support whatever decision you make. Yeah. We forgot the phone at home today. We did. So today we will be answering emails. Yeah. And actually, To be honest with you, I had to go back pretty far. This one is from like June. And I kind of hate that this one is going to be released after Houston. It sounds like these people will be in Houston. Maybe we'll see them. We'll say, hey, listen to the podcast. Yeah, so we are filming or recording this prior to leaving. So like two days before. Right. Okay. This will come out like two days after. Yeah. Yeah. So it came through on Buzzsprout, which is like where I guess people can respond. Yes. So if you're listening to this on like Apple Podcasts or whatever, there's a button there that says text. Like, you know, text them or whatever. Yeah. And if you click that, you think you're texting us, I assume, from your phone. But that goes to Buzzsprout, which is our like the software we use to upload. Yeah. And it comes to our email. And there's no way. We've talked about this before. There's no place for us to respond to that. So like we can we will read your message, but we just don't have any. There's not a way. There's no way. Yeah. I don't even know your... It doesn't give me a phone number. It doesn't give me an email. It doesn't... It just gives me your message. Yeah, and it's coming from like a no reply type email sort of situation. Okay. So anyway, this is where this came from. It says, hi there, Tuesday talk question topic. We have been in the lifestyle for three and a half years and have had experiences with females, couples, and group play. We have yet to experience an MFM other than within couple group play. We are trying to navigate the best way for play to get started. Would love to hear some idea on this as well as play options besides split roast. Hope to see y'all in Houston in August. Does it say split or spit roast? I might have just said it wrong. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know. I know it's spit roast. I just probably said that wrong. Okay. I can't. It says spit roast. Okay. I just said it wrong. Hope to see y'all in Houston in August and it's Texas uncoupled. T-E-X. Oh, Texas. Like, son couple. Son. Yeah. Texas son couple. Yeah, basically. Yeah. Okay. So, I was thinking, we were trying to figure out, because we were talking about it as we were saving the podcast that we were working on before this. I was trying to figure out what the actual question was in this one. And at first, I thought it was like, how do you find a guy to do an MFM? And then, like, what else can you do other than, like, a spit roast? So, that's what I thought. But reading it out loud that second time, it says, We're trying to navigate the best way for play to get started. So that would be the first question. How to get play started. Are they talking about like maybe moving from like, oh, we're having drinks to like into the playroom? Or are they talking like in a playroom? Now what happens? Yeah. I also am struggling to interpret the question a little bit. So but here's my take on it. And you can tell me what you think. So it sounds like this couple's been in the lifestyle for a while. It sounds like they've played with just girls. before? No, it says couples and group play. No, that's what I'm saying. I was going through the list. So they've played with unicorns, it sounds like, right? They've done that. Sounds like they've played with other couples before. They've done that. And they've done group sex. So it seems like the one thing maybe on their fuck it list that they haven't done is playing just like a true bowl experience or a true one-on-one with a single guy experience. It sounds like that's the missing item on their checklist. And so that's what they're seeking to do. And they're asking advice. Sounds like how to find the guy. Did they say how to find him? They didn't. That's kind of how we read it the first time. But as I'm reading it the second time, I don't feel like. But they obviously haven't found that. So I think we just start there and kind of work our way. Because even if this guy is not, somebody else is. So I think we're okay answering that. So I think you were probably the best one to answer this because you were a bull in the lifestyle. So tell people how to find you. Right. So I think this is what we're going for. So it seems like the gist of this question is, if you are looking to play with single men, or solo men might be a better word of saying that, how do you go about finding those guys? And then once you do find them, like what's like maybe some best practices, you know, on the actual sex part of it. Yeah, I agree. I think that's my takeaway from that question. And hopefully that meets his intention. So I think, first off, despite popular belief, you know, I think there is this idea in the lifestyle that That they're just raining from the sky. And if you want to fuck a single guy, you just, you know, you just pick one and you go fuck them. The truth is it's harder to find them. Like good quality ones. Exactly. Yeah. Right. So I think that is true. There are an abundance of single guys. If you go to most, you know, most clubs, a lot of clubs on a Friday night will let single guys in and not on Saturday. So, you know, if you were this, and that's probably one answer to your question. If you are looking for a single guy going to to most clubs on a Friday night as opposed to Saturday, if that club specifically lets single males in on Friday, that might be a good opportunity. Honestly, I feel like that would probably be the easiest because you're not having to wade through messages. You're not having to like kind of like vet. Now, on the flip side, you kind of are picking from a group. So you kind of have to just like you're limited to whoever's there. Yeah, you're just kind of picking. You don't there's not a lot of it's basically you're going to introduce yourself. Yeah, and then obviously you have to hope that they can perform, they can do the things. But I think that you run that risk even if you meet somebody online. Because somebody can promise you everything and then you get in there and they do nothing that they promise. So I'd almost rather just eliminate them telling me how great they are and just like, let's just get to the point. So I think an easy way to do that would be to go to one of these clubs, Trapeze Atlanta is a prime example of this, that allows single males. Colette. Colette does. is it, I believe. Because they're in Texas, so there's Colette. Tempted in Louisville allows single males on Fridays. So that's a good way, right? So go to a club on a Friday. Basically, bring your wife in there. Dance with her for a little bit. Be like, hey, baby, is there anybody here that interests you? And if she's like, yeah, that guy over there in the corner, I would totally fuck him. He's hot. I don't actually like the idea of like, we're going tonight for this reason. Like intentional play. Where like, if you go on a Saturday night, or whatever, you know, it's harder to find someone that even if they're not single, maybe a guy that can play without, you know, his wife or something like that. To me, that's like harder to pick out in a group. Like to me going like on a Friday night when they allow them with intentions of this is what we're going for to fulfill this fantasy and even communicating that to whatever guy you meet. Like we are here to do this because this is a fantasy of ours. So then let her pick somebody out. I would say then have the husband approach. Yeah. Say, hey, my wife is into you. These are our rules. You've got to wear a condom. You can't put it in her butt. Whatever the rules are. She really likes this. She doesn't like that. Have him explain and be like, are you interested? If he's at a club on a Friday night, he's probably interested. That's why he's there. Then you take him to a playroom and you fuck him. It's that easy. That's one way. The other way, there's a few other ways. Go on a lifestyle website. The nice thing about lifestyle websites, you can sort by single mail. You can look at their profiles. If there's somebody that's been in the lifestyle for a while, they probably have reviews, right? So on like SLS and SDC, you literally can do like a Yelp review, right? So if this is a real guy who has been in the lifestyle for a while and plays with couples, he's probably had a few. If he's good, he's probably had a few. I had like four or five of them bitches, you know what I mean? Yeah, you did. So he's probably got a few. I gave you a review. Yeah, you did. I remember that. Yeah. So he's probably got himself a few reviews. You read the reviews, look at his pictures, be like, you know, if you don't see reviews, fuck that guy, right? Yeah, because he's probably... Or if he's free. I mean, there's definitely ways to filter out. I mean, I'm not saying that somebody free is not like a great guy, but it's hard. You just don't want to vet him, right? Yeah. He could be married and he's just there to try to get your pictures. Maybe he's thinking about playing with a couple, but he's not really sure, so he might not show up. I mean, there's all these things. If he doesn't have reviews and he hasn't done this before, you're basically taking a risk that this guy might not even... He might not be legitimate. He might not be real. He might never show up. He might just be trying to get pictures of your wife that he can jerk off to in the bathroom at night. I don't understand that. I'm telling you, there's a ton of those guys. Just Google. I don't know. They want to know. I don't know. But for any reason, so what I would say is look for the guys with reviews. Find one you like that's in your area. Message him and set something up. The nice part about that approach is now you can start a group chat. You can flirt. You can send pictures back and forth. Your wife can talk to him and get comfortable. Kind of feel, you know, because maybe you look, you know, your wife sees a guy in the corner and he looks like a got guy and then she gets to talking to him and he's a dud you know yeah like so in this aspect there's a little more buildup you can kind of prearrange your fantasies of yeah you know she wants you to come in the house at night while she's sleeping and you know i don't know whatever the thing is right you can kind of pre-script that and uh and and do it that way um and most of my encounters when i was a single male with couples was that was the way is i was on sdc sls all these places um and when i traveled really i would go through and message You know, couples that were looking for single males and said so in their profile. Sometimes I'd get a couple of responses and then we'd set up a date or something like that. And then we'd go from there. Another way to do it is get on the regular dating sites. So like Tinder and Plenty of Fish and Bumble or whatever, all those ones. And try to find a guy that way. And she could even almost make a single female profile on those and go through it that way. The problem is you're going to be the same thing we talked about is you don't know who you're going to get. You're not going to know if they're going to be comfortable with a couple. You don't know if they're actually going to show up. You know, you're doing a lot more weeding through those people. That seems awful. But you never know. You might find this hot young stud that never really thought about playing with couples. No, I mean, you're not wrong. And that sounds super hot and very enjoyable, actually. But the odds of him, like, freaking out because your husband's there or maybe, like, crying in the corner after because he couldn't get hard. I just don't really... I do not with that. I don't want to deal with that. I'd rather somebody know what they're here for. Come in, do the job, service me, have a great night, see you back. Right. The only other thing I will bring up that is probably a possibility is, you know, this couple sounds like they're already in the lifestyle. There's the real possibility of you have friends that one of the husbands will play alone. Yeah. Solo. Yeah. And I think that's like really cool thing about making friend groups in the lifestyle. If you like communicate that this is something that you really want to do, The odds are somebody in your friend group will be comfortable doing that. Yeah. Or maybe that couple, like maybe the wife, that's something that they're wanting to do. Maybe she would like for him to be able to play solo. They've never done it before. She would rather do it with somebody, like a couple that she knows and she can trust and she's comfortable. So I definitely think. And you've actually, I've played solo once or twice. Yes. In our. Yeah. I can think of the Grove. And then, you know, during COVID, that whole thing. Yeah, that was a nightmare. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that happens. Yeah, no, it does. I can see us doing that in the future, possibly. Oh, I can totally. And we've done that for friends. Actually, we did this exact same scenario with a couple. The wife was at home and the husband was traveling with us. And yeah, he fucked me. And we recorded it for the wife to enjoy and pleasure herself to. And it was super hot and I really enjoyed it. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, honestly, like, if we were to do this, that would probably be the most comfortable that I would be. Also, just meeting a random guy. Because the truth is, like, the thought of a single guy messaging us and, like, wanting him to have, like, a friendship and me having, like, it just seems like a lot, you know? I mean, don't get me wrong. There are some really good single guys that, like, I enjoy being around them and they're good quality people that you just don't see a ton of that in the lifestyle. So I would probably rather just like meet somebody at club and fuck them and then peace Yeah. Okay. So then the, like, what positions or how do you fuck? Yeah. You know, so I've done it. I've done this several, you know, when, when I was, before I met Lacey, this was kind of my, my jam, right? Uh, and so Mr. Expert, give us the information. So a few, you know, the scenarios have been in the past, you know, there was one time where I showed up to this couple's house, very nice house, like mansion-y kind of style, like on a hill. And it sounds like though, that I know where you're going with this, that he wants to be involved, like MFC. Yeah, it does sound like that. So, like, I think he's actually asking for, like... Like... Positions. Positions. Like, for... Okay, but let me do this first. Okay, I'm not trying to hijack your story. No, I got you. All right, so some of the things, you know, I've showed up to a house before, she's in the hot tub. Yeah. You know, hey, she's in the hot tub, go get in the hot tub with her. Why are you smirking? Why are we smirking? You know, and then, like, the husband, like, brought us out drinks and snacks, and then we fucked later. Okay, so that was one scenario. I've even done the, like, the husband has left and gone to the house. the bar down the street and the wife is in bed waiting right and it's and that's kind of like i've never been in this house before so he's like okay you walk through the back door and then the the bedroom's the third door on the left and she's in the bed and you know just go in there and do not love me why don't you do these things like find men to do this to you well no i'll just do it to you but anyway so that those kind of scenarios right um so as far as like the three of you playing together position wise so i'm one i can think is uh the woman On her back, one guy going down on her. The other guy, she's sucking his dick. So he's like over her kind of like with his dick in her mouth. That's one way I can think. She could be doggy style and sucking a dick and either getting eaten out or fucked. Yeah. Also, I guess that's kind of Eiffel Tower-ish. Also, DVP. That is very popular with two guys and one girl. Putting the two dicks in the vagina. Which, if you don't know how to do that, I would... Didn't we do an episode on that? We did, but I would probably just, like, look up porn. Like, just go on porn. Honestly, though, but here's the thing about porn, right? Those positions are not the easiest positions. Yeah. Those are the best camera positions. Well, they also get in that position and then start filming. But at least you kind of understand the position, so you sort of... Like, I'm a visual person, so I would need to be able to see it. I'm trying to think. What else? To... Two Dicks in One Mouth, if you are comfortable. I know not all men are comfortable with this, but a double blowjob is pretty fucking hot. So you enjoy that? Me? Yeah, kind of. You enjoy putting two dicks in your mouth at one time? Kind of, yeah. It makes me feel naughty. Because you're being a dirty girl? Yeah. Same thing with DVP. It has been pleasurable, but for me it's more of the naughtiness of doing this. Like I'm being a whore. That's why I enjoy it. It's a guy. Like, I enjoy it because more you're being a whore, I guess. Yeah. Or whatever girl it is that. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I should Google, like, MFM positions. I mean, surely there's. Well, there's, you know, DP would be a position. And the thing is, you can do these a lot of ways, right? So you can do it where the girl's on her back. You can do it, you know, reverse cowgirl. We've done the reverse cowgirl DVP. Not DP, but you could do that that way. You're all right. You know, you can, watch porn and kind of get a bunch of different positions if that's something you're looking for. I would say, you know, we've done a lot of MFM stuff. Of course, it's two fucking girls and one guy when I Google it. Sorry. No. What I was going to say is we've done a lot. Usually it's the doggy style with the guy fucking her from behind and like her sucking somebody's dick. Yeah. And it's like maybe she's on the edge of the bed. The guy's on the bed. Okay. Well, I have to give shout out to Vanilla Swingers who are a lovely podcast couple who we've never talked about. here, but we have met several times. They basically go all the places that we go. And if you see their podcast, it has like a girl and a guy like cartoon. They actually have a threesome MFM sex position for swingers. They have a whole ass podcast on it. And they actually have videos or pictures. So shout out to them because they are lovely, nice people. They really are. Yeah, we just hung out with them a little bit on the blue scoops. Yeah. So double hand job. So the woman in the middle, and she's, Yeah, like skiing. Yeah, yeah. The change up. So again, this is almost like the two dicks in one mouth, but maybe separate for guys who don't want to be so close contact. So she's going like back and forth and back and forth. So instead of skiing, she's kind of milking almost. Yeah, yeah. So three's company. So the lady is laying on her back and the guy is actually like sitting on her face. So I guess his dick is down her throat. and then the other guy is going down on her. The doggy blowjob. That is true. When we do it, a lot of times the guy is off to the side of the girl and that is a difficult position. If the girl is on her back getting fucked and she's trying to suck a dick and that dick is beside her on the bed, it can be difficult. If he literally 69s her but not 69 because there's a guy there. Don't do that to me though. That's a lot of dick. You don't want that dick shoved down your throat. I want to be able to move my neck. You want to be in control of how deep I want to be able to sustain life. Right. You know? Well, there's some girls that really enjoy getting throat fucked. Yeah, I'm not. Okay. So then there is the doggy blowjob. So the guy is on his back flat. The girl is doggy style giving him a blowjob. Like she's on her knees sucking the guy's dick and the other guy is fucking her from behind and the doggy. Spit roast. We've already talked about that. Ride and Blow. So again, The male is flat. The girl is reverse cowgirl on top of him. And then she's giving a blowjob. He's standing up. The other guy's standing up. And the classic Deadpool. Most common MFM fantasy. One guy lies on his back and the girl rides him cowgirl style and the other guy kneels behind her and enters her anally. Oh, that's DP. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So, shout out to you. So, I will say if you're going to do DVP or DP really for this matter. The key to that is when the guy on the bottom lays down. Yeah. Keep his legs together. And then the girl's legs are spread over. And then the guy's legs spread over. But inside of the girl's legs. Yeah. If that makes sense. Yeah. Too many times I've seen where the guy spreads his legs and the guy is trying like the girls on the outside of the guy's legs and the other guys on the inside of the guy's legs. But then he's more difficult. If I had to give you advice. is, I've never went into an MFM with plans of positions. You just go in with an open mind and having fun, and you'll figure it out, to be honest with you. I think probably the more you overthink it, the more complicated. Yeah, just go with. And it might be, you know, the first couple times we did DBP, it can be a little awkward. Yeah, yeah. And it's more of like, we're kind of done fucking, and we're like, do you want to just try this for fun? Yeah. So it's like, if it happens, great. If it doesn't, that's okay, too, kind of situation. But, yeah, I mean, definitely. And it's not uncommon for you try to go to do, like, you could be fucking all night and everything's great. And then you're like, oh, let's try DVP. Yeah. And one of the guys loses a hard one. Yeah, for sure. Just because it is a little awkward. And also, if one of the guys loses his erection during an FM, it's okay. Like, I think we talked about this on the Shameless podcast. Have the one guy who's struggling go down on the girl and just let's not think about his dick. Yeah. Let's take his dick. off. There's lots of things that that guy can do to the girl that would satisfy her and she would have a great time and she wouldn't even think twice that his dick. You could still have fun. Well, especially if she's still got another hard dick. Well, I mean, that's the thing. There's so many things you can do that are still hot and still fun that don't require penetration instead of ruining a night. A perfectly good threesome. Perfectly good. All right. I think that ends that question. All right. So if you have a We would love to hear from you. There's a few different ways you can get a hold of us. You can email us at theswingnation at gmail.com. You can hit that text now button in the podcast notes there. Or you can give us a text or a phone call. And that number is? 972-302-7716. One more time. 972-302-7716. And we would love to hear from you. Yeah. Keep these Tuesday Talk questions rolling. They can be dirty. They can be, you know, kinky, dirty questions. It could be about the lifestyle. You could ask us personal questions, you know, opinion questions or, hey, this happened. What do you think of it? You know, man, last weekend, this happened and this girl, you know, this couple got mad at us because of this. What, you know, how could we have done this different? Whatever you want to think. Anything you can think of. 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