Hollywood Hotwife: Behind the Scenes at WIFEY Studios

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Speaker1: This podcast is intended for adult audiences. Over the age of 18, it contains adult language and situations. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to us, and not of any employer, organization, committee, or other group or individuals. This podcast is not intended to be taken as professional advice. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe. Interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. Hi, I'm Lacey, and this is my husband, Dan. We've always been very open to each other about what we want to do and things we want to try. And we even kind of, I think, push each other a little bit to try new things. A former pastor who had been a pastor of a church for 16 years, and he actually said that in a lot of ways, he felt like people in the lifestyle was a lot of things that he thought that the church was supposed to be. The community around the lifestyle. Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy. And Southern Girl. We are back with another rendition of the full podcast. You throw me off every time you do that. I try to keep you guessing. Yeah, you do. Yeah, welcome back. A full, regular episode in our studio. Last week, you watched us from L.A. What did y'all think about it? I'm curious. We hadn't really got a whole lot of feedback on that podcast. What did y'all think? It's doing very well on YouTube. It is, yeah. So on YouTube, an average podcast episode gets, I don't know, between like 1,000 and 2,000 views. I think that one's at like 8,000. Oh, wow. So, and I don't know, we shared it with the Vixen. Like, Vixen's like a co, so I don't know if that's. They have like almost no followers on their YouTube. So I don't know why it's getting so much traffic or if it's just because they've shared it on so many of their channels. But definitely that was the inspiration for improving our podcast studio and our camera angles and trying to make the Swing Nation a little more video friendly. Yeah. Because when we started all this, we really just was our voices and our phones and it wasn't this whole thing. So slowly stepping it up. That's right. I'm happy with where we are now. All right. So this week's episode, speaking of wifey, we're going to actually give you our perspective of going to L.A. and doing the wifey shoot, that experience. We're going to talk you through that. Kind of like how we do all of our events that we go to. Very similar style. I took notes. Again, it's now February and this was back at the end of October. the notes a little just because it has been so long. Ideally, we were going to film this before, but then of course it would have been in the old studio. So it's fine that it's in our new studio and it's now. I'm just going to have to refer to our notes. But I wanted to start out with why we chose to do this and how this all came to be. Just take a few minutes in the beginning to sort of talk about that. So Wifey had reached out to us. They launched the platform. in March of 2025. So coming up on a year. And they had reached out to us roughly around that time. I'm not sure the exact month they actually reached out, but somewhere in there. And we didn't. We saw porn, for lack of a better word. And we were just like. Not for us. Not for us. You know, because there is a lot of stigma about people in the lifestyle who have OnlyFans or, you know, just like the filming at a bit. Like, we hear it. We know what people say. And so we just, we've tried really hard to keep the podcast sort of separate a little bit for that. Well, honestly, I think our brand is kind of separate. So, you know, I think if you look at into the lifestyle space, you will find content creators, right, that are creating content on OnlyFans. And then you also find people that are on TikTok and Instagram and people that are doing all those things, right? And so for us, OnlyFans is definitely part of what we do. But I think, you know, the swing nation in our brand has always been more educational, more, you know, telling authentic stories. Now, do we plug our OnlyFans every once in a while? Absolutely, we do. That's honestly the only way that we can provide this platform and be this educational advocacy for the lifestyle type people is to pay our bills. And thus far, the best way to pay our bills has been OnlyFans. But we don't see ourselves as straight up porn stars. That's not the goal. That's not what we want our channel to be. You will find other content creators that if you scroll their Instagram feed or their feed on X, it's mostly OnlyFans content. It's mostly clickbait. It's mostly thirst trap type content. And ours comes and goes, but we always try really hard to have education kind of be the core of what we do. Right. And not judging those other people. Several of them are our friends. We really enjoyed them. We really liked them. And honestly, the truth is, is that if we just leaned into the OnlyFans and kind of went away from the education and like the parties and all that, we would probably make more money. We are aware of that. So we like are a little bit envious of our friends that kind of went that route because of that. But we've just kind of chosen to do it a little different. Regardless, we're always going to get hate. Doesn't matter what we do. People are going to say have something to say about it. So that kind of was our knee-jerk reaction to Wifey is like, no, thank you. And then leading up to Naughty in New Orleans, we started hearing about Wifey again, how they were going to be a sponsor. And we were actually offered to co-sponsor a pool party with them. And so we were like, sure. Didn't really think a whole lot of it. And fast forward to Naughty in New Orleans, we met the whole, they like brought their whole staff to, to New Orleans. And honestly, they were kind of wonderful to us. Even Serenity Cox, which you've heard us talk about here on this podcast, she's their ambassador for the Wifey program. So they were all there. Jason Love, who is, because it's owned by Vixen Media Group, which is their, like, and Jason Love is- Parent company, I guess you'd say. Yeah, and Jason Love is, like, their star. We didn't know who any of these people are. because we're not super plugged into like the porn aspect but we met all of them and they were honestly like great they were great they like we met the owners we met we all of them were really awesome it doesn't matter if it was like an assistant all the way up to the top person they kind of blew us away with we really didn't go in with any expectations and honestly didn't really think twice about even meeting them and then they kind of wowed us and i exchanged some phone numbers and stuff like that and and they had asked us even then if that was something that we would be interested in me shooting and I kind of like turned them down I was like I don't think that that's something that we want to do so fast forward we get home and probably like a week or so later one of the girls says hey here is a free trial so you can get on vixen plus which is their like it's their version of like it's not only fans but if you could their platform where they have all their channels and you can see all the different types of porn and scope it out. So they basically gave me like free access, free access. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to I'm going to watch these. So at night for about a week, I would watch one episode like at bedtime. And then they're about an hour long. And I can remember within the first 15 minutes of seeing the first one, I was like, Dan, this is educational like this. Yes, it's porn, but it's like good porn. You know, it's like classy porn if you could have a thing. This is real couples and real stories. And the bulk of the hour-long episode is the couple having a whole, like, interview explaining what they do and what they don't do and... How they got in the lifestyle. Yeah. What they love about the lifestyle. And the sex, yes, it is a part of it. It is kind of like the afterthought to it all. The whole reason they're there is to, like, really tell their story. And then, of course, it ends with the sex. So off the bat, I was pretty impressed. And I remember telling Dan, I was like, if people are thinking about getting the lifestyle, if they want to watch porn, if that's something that they're into, not all couples are, this could be like potentially a really cool avenue for people to kind of do some research, you know? And, you know, like you have hot sex at the end because you're turned on, you know? Especially like if you're thinking about this, you know, like maybe a date now, you don't want to go, you're not ready for a swingers club, but you want something more than like the Super Amateur, like, videos that people are making and putting on, like, free porn sites, you know? So that was sort of my first introductory, and I watched all of them for about a week, you know? I don't know. I watched, well, I didn't watch all of them. I watched, you know, a handful of them, some of their bigger ones, and some, I knew some people that had been on there, so I watched some of their scenes. So that's really kind of where I was, and that's when Dan and I really started talking about if this is something that we wanted to do. Yeah, and I think, you know, authentically in those conversations, what Wifey is doing is not much different than what we're doing, right? We come on our podcast, and we talk about how we got in lifestyle. We interview couples. We talk to experts. You know, they're talking. They're doing very much similar interviews that we do with our friends on their platform, and then they're showing you the adult stuff. Well, we're showing you the adult stuff on OnlyFans, so we're kind of doing the same thing, you know what I mean? But Dan very much left it up to me as far as, like, if this is something that I wanted to do. And because, honestly, it's kind of a big jump. I'm jumping from, like, just being an OnlyFans girl, I say that in quotations, to I'm, like, that's a real pro shoot, you know? I mean, it's pretty, like, beginner, but it's still pretty, I mean, it's a pro. And shooting for Vixen is, like, they're one of the nicest, best companies out there. So it's, it is a big deal and not something to take, like, And so you kind of left it up to me. Well, so in many of the things that we've done, whether it's the podcast, whether it's OnlyFans, whether it's TikTok, I feel like I've always kind of been the driving force. And then when it doesn't go well, it tends to be that you kind of come back to me and you're like, you know, hey. So on this thing in particular, what I was afraid of is if you do this and then for some reason you don't like it or, you know, a year from now, that all that content's out there and you can't delete it. Like, I didn't want you to be able to come back to me and say, oh, you pressured me into doing this, right? So I wanted it very much to be, this is your decision to make. It's one of those things that once you do it, there's no really way to undo it. So I want you to feel confident in your decision and I don't want to steer you one way or the other. Yeah. And we had a couple of conversations with like the casting of Wifey and, you know, I talked about the fact that I'm not like a size two girl, you know, and I, Well, I want to like tone up and look good. I also wanted to show my body and that not all girls in the lifestyle are perfect and we have flaws and stuff. So, you know, I was on the fence of do I tone up? Do I go on a crash diet? You know, if I decide to do this or do I just truly embrace who I am? And after some conversations with them and I was definitely leaning toward it. And I think when I told you, you were actually kind of surprised by it. I didn't think you'd do it. You didn't? No, I didn't. I really didn't. But eventually, I finally talked to the wife. And this is probably now like August, September. I say, okay, I think I'm going to do this. And they seemed actually pretty surprised that I agreed to it. And in one of our very first meetings with them, that's kind of where the blindfold conversation came up. They were like, if this is something, and I don't even think I had decided to do it or not, because they said they would save it if I decided to do it. They were like, is there any fantasies, anything you've ever wanted to do? And that's when we had brought up this blindfold fantasy that we had. And they were like, we love that. But we will save it for you. So you want to explain a little bit what that is? Yeah. So when I was a unicorn in the lifestyle, I had sex quite a few times with this this guy. And he had a fantasy to blindfold me, bring in a single guy for me to fuck. And then the single guy leave and me never know. who he was or see who he was. And after, you know, some back and forth, I agreed to do this. And we had had a lot of sex, me and this guy. So there was some trust there. So I agreed to do it. And then the day of, I was actually very, very nervous. It was quite scary, you know, in the time. But it ended up being a very hot, fun, I felt naughty, you know, kind of experience. He ended up asking me if he could record it. And then he ended up showing me the video after. So I did end up seeing the guy. But I never knew that guy's name. I don't know who he is to this day. I can just kind of tell you what it looked like. But it was always like a very hot experience. And kind of like, in my opinion, one of the times that I gave up control. And then when I fast forward and think about Dan and I's relationship, and I'm like, that belongs to you, not to some random guy that I used to hook up with. with Dan on some level. And we just, it's not something that we had ever like stopped long enough to kind of make it happen. So when the wifey thing came up, I said, you know, I would love for me to be blindfolded and Dan pick out who I fuck and how many people I fuck. And of course they loved it. Um, the, there was another scene where the girl did a game bang and like her wedding dress and that was a huge successful. So we kind of knew it was sort of on the lines of that. Right. I think anytime you do it is funny that in porn you know you're there for the sex but there being a little bit of a back story or something that a little twist that makes it a little bit naughtier I think that is a little more attention grabbing yeah and this is a pretty hot concept right so to blindfold somebody and you know your your wife then have her have sex with guys and her not knowing who the guys are or even how many of the guys are in the room with her a pretty sexy concept. It was. So, yeah. So, we found out pretty much once I committed to it. I think we went like a month. I think I committed to it right before Secret. It's just for like a timeline, which is in September. I think it was like the first week of September. So, I think I committed like the week or so before that. And we found out we were going in October. And there was some scheduling to get their schedule and our schedule worked out. But it ended up going the week of Halloween. And so we did actually document the trip through social media. And a few people guessed, but we just kind of deleted those comments. We didn't want, you know, it to be obvious. And when I did it, we had several friends that did it. Like one went the week before me or two weeks before. Like we were all kind of back to back. So it was kind of like all like a little bit of the friend group. Right. Like swinger society goes to wifey. Yeah. And so we had several friends that would go with. So we were all kind of like in contact and talking through it. So I'm going to like the first few days I'm like leading because we did a few days in L.A. that didn't have anything to do with YV. But so I'm going to kind of talk about those days, but definitely deep dive since we spent, you know, the first 15 minutes talking about this. We're going to kind of skip over some of them, you know, the getting there and stuff. But so we flew to YV. We flew to L.A. on like a Sunday because I think our shoot was like Tuesday. So we wanted a day or two. Dan and I had never been to L.A. together. I had been to L.A. years ago. I mean, I went to Anaheim to like Disney. You had been in and around that area, but we had never really like sightseeing. I had never done the whole Hollywood Boulevard and all that. Yeah. So we went in like two days early. So we arrived at LAX and we actually stayed in the, what do you call it? It's like an apartment. A condo, I would say. Yeah, it's like a condo. It seemed like it was Jason Love's condo. That's what it seemed like to me. Maybe he's just the one that uses it the most. But it was, you know, definitely a Vixen. It's like a model creator type room, like a condo. You could not, there was strict rules about filming content. taking video, anything like that in it. So you don't see, if you go back to those TikToks and stuff from back from October, you don't see any video in that because it's pretty recognizable. So that's why we weren't allowed to film in there. So we get to that condo and it's literally downtown LA, like right across from where the Grammys and the Lakers and all of that is. So we are like. In the heart of LA. Yeah. And one of the head people from Vixen came and, you know, he got us checked in, to the room, showed us the layout, where the pool, kind of told us a little bit about where we're staying, what to do, kind of all that. He ended up being awesome. We had met him in New Orleans, so it was nice to see him again. So that's pretty much us getting there. And we pretty much knew, because we basically had a day and a half to sightsee. So we kind of knew we had to do something, and we got there pretty early in the day because of the time difference. going to Hollywood Boulevard and walking around. We didn't really have any plans. I wanted to see the Hollywood Walk of Fame, the stars. So we kind of did a lot of that. We did. We took a Waymo, which is the self-driving. Yeah, the self-driving cars, the driverless cars. Yeah, which were kind of cool. And we, you know, if you remember back then, we made all those TikToks and you got to see all that. So, yeah, we walked around. We bought some souvenirs for the kids and like a magnet for the fridge and all of that. There was a movie premiere while we were there. I can't remember. It's like Blue Songbird or something. It was something on Netflix that was coming out. It was kind of neat to pause. See the red carpet and all the cameras and these limos pulling up with what I assumed were celebrities getting out. Yeah, it was like Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman and stuff like that. It was a pretty legit movie premiere. It was pretty neat for us to experience that. If you know anything about us, We like a hard rock cafe. So we went to hard rock. Just because we really didn't know the area, we were starving. Hard rock, we know what they have. It was easy. So we had dinner at the hard rock. And then honestly, after that, we kind of went back to the room. It was a pretty easy first day, just kind of doing a little sightseeing, buying some souvenirs, have dinner, that kind of thing. What's your thoughts on Hollywood Boulevard? It kind of reminds me of like a Broadway in Nashville, a Bourbon Street in New Orleans, like a Beale Street from Memphis. It's, to me, Nashville is much nicer. It's kind of, it's pretty crappy. We just went, I'm sure y'all saw last, we were just there last week. And it is, it is actually pretty scary. Like, I'm genuinely worried that somebody's going to grab my purse. And it was just, there was like dirt bikes running up and down the road. And like, it was just, it was a lot. It's not really my vibe. Yeah, I don't, you know, if I think of like Hollywood Boulevard, I would have thought nice, clean, well manicured. Like this is Hollywood. This is where all the celebrities are. Like this has got to be nice. They don't live there. They live in like Beverly Hills. Right. This Hollywood Boulevard is a little rough. And several of the walk of fame, like the squares are broken and cracked and some of the stars are broken and cracked. Ozzy Osbourne had just passed. So like his whole like star was like decorated. That's cool. Which is cool. But yeah, it definitely wasn't what I expected, like just from seeing it in TV and stuff. I was underwhelmed. Yeah. And like you said, it felt a little sketchy. It felt a little unsafe. Yeah, I've been up and down Bourbon Street so many times and I definitely was a little bit more scared than Hollywood Boulevard. And that's saying something. Because New Orleans is pretty scary. So yeah, that was basically our Sunday. We went back, we had sex, we went to bed. I mean, pretty standard for us. I woke up bright and early. The time difference, you know, definitely threw me off. The where the apartment or condo that they have you in, they have these like beautiful windows and you can literally see the Hollywood sign from your window. But the sun coming in, I think the sun rises early. It's just I was up early. Well, and the time change. Of course, Dan slept till lunch because that's what he does. But, you know, after that, we kind of got up and sort of got going pretty quick because it was already lunchtime. So we had already lost half the day. So a few things on my list was, ladies, you'll probably get, I wanted to go to Air One and have the Haley Beaver smoothie. That was something that was, you know, I like when somebody asked what things you want to do in LA, I had a few and that was definitely one of them. Dan was like, what the hell are we doing? I was like, just go. I'm like, we're going to a grocery store to order a $25 smoothie. Like, I don't understand. It was fun though. I mean, I even like flipped a pineapple upside down in the air one and it's right next door to the Dancing with the Stars studio. So we got to see everybody walking in and out with their like lanyards, which was really cool. It was a fun experience. Another thing that I had always wanted to do was go to Trashy Lingerie. So if you listen, if you ever watched Girls Next Door from back in the early 2000s, they got all of their theme wear, all of their like. All right, this is Hugh Hefner's Girlfriend. Yes. The stuff that they wear to the parties all came from Trashy Lingerie. They like make, hand make, all of this stuff. So I've always wanted to go. So I talked to you when to go. It was just a few minutes from Air One, so it wasn't bad. And you actually have to pay to go in, which is smart on their behalf because they know not everybody's going to. The stuff in there was actually pretty pricey. So a lot of the stuff is custom made, so you would have to order. And I didn't really need anything. to go and look at the building. Yeah, it's a members-only lingerie store. I mean, you only had to pay like $2. Yeah, something like that. The problem was it was like three days, four days before Halloween, so they were actually pretty busy and honestly kind of picked over because so many people were buying Halloween costumes. I think had we had went just like at a random time, we probably would have had a good experience. And honestly, I wanted to buy something. I was like trying to think of whatever event or something that we had coming up. There was just too much going on. Dan wasn't really into it. If I was there by myself, that probably would have been different. But it was fun. I got to see the building. I noticed not long ago, we tagged them, we made a TikTok. I noticed not long ago, they liked the, on Instagram, because it showed up in my, I guess they just finally went back and was probably like liking things that they had been tagged in. And I was like, oh, they know who we are. They don't, but it felt like they did. It's funny. And so after that, another thing I wanted to do was go to Rodeo Drive. Again, probably... I mean, I'm glad I went and saw it, but we can't really afford anything in there. Yeah. It's all the $2,000 purses and $10,000 watches and... Yeah, it was... I mean, it's really cool. It really wasn't... It didn't even look like stores. It kind of looked like a neighborhood, like a fancy because there was barely even any sign. It was pretty. It was neat. I was glad to say we went and did it, but it wasn't like... It's not like you see on TV. Oh, I don't know what you see on TV. Yeah, they make it seem so, like, fun and, like, I don't know. It just, it was lackluster, I guess is the best way I can describe it. Yeah, it was mostly just tourists walking around taking pictures. Yeah. I maybe saw one or two people shopping the entire time, actually buying stuff. And, like, to go in, there's, like, guards on the outside and stuff like that, and, like, no, thank you. So. Yeah, each store had, like, a bunch of attendants in it, so it's not like you could just walk in and walk around and look. No. You walked in, they were going to assign you somebody. Give you some champagne. It's like a whole ass thing. You can't just be like, oh, that's cute. So yeah, we did that. And then after that, that's when we went to Santa Monica, which was kind of like the thing we knew. We wanted to go at sunset. So we were kind of like just doing stuff before that, just sort of take up time. So we went to Santa Monica and we had dinner at sunset. I don't even know the place. I actually really liked the place that we went. We kind of got to see the water. We walked down to the water after that. Yeah, the Santa Monica Pier was probably my favorite part of the whole day, or at least the touristy part of the weekend. Same. A cool spot. Again, though, I'm sorry. I'm not a huge fan of L.A. There's a lot of bums. There's a lot of tents. There's a lot of spray paint everywhere. just kind of seemed run down and a little sketchy. And honestly, this part was probably one of the best things that we saw. And it's still there were still parts of it that there's like people living on the beach. Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah. And we went, we walked the water and then we walked to the pier and we got to walk to the end of the pier, which was nice. Dan got a churro. If you know anything about Dan, he he loves getting a churro. And, you know, we kind of walked around and not not a lot. We tried to keep these two days sort of easy because we didn't want to like overexert ourself because we knew we had some pretty busy days coming up. And so we definitely wanted to kind of keep it light and easy. And so after that, we took our Waymo back to the condo. I had to show up Tuesday morning with freshly washed hair, blow dry. So I knew I had to do all that. I needed to shave. I needed to wash my hair, dry it, go to bed. So I was well rested. So that's basically what we did. We got back early and I did all of those things to get ready for the next morning. The Waymos for me were the highlight of the trip. Well, I mean, other than like you getting dicked down by four giant dicks. But I mean, you know, we posted a couple of videos of the Waymos and people were like, I could never, I could never. It was fun. I thought the Waymos were the best thing ever. So, you know, the Waymos are the driverless. They're basically an Uber but without a driver in them. Yeah. all like brand new Jaguar cars, which had nice leather interiors. They were all super clean. Um, they drove pretty well as far as, you know, managing their way around the city. I was actually really impressed with the way they drove. Uh, and like you said, comparing that to like an Uber, you get an Uber, sometimes they smell and they stink and you got some driver that's kind of sketchy or where he wants to talk to you about his wife and his kids and you know, why he's upset at whoever that day. Um, the Waymo was, It's pretty chill. Yeah. I like the Waymos. Yeah. We went on three or four rides in the Waymos and we much preferred them over Uber. For sure. But yeah, that was basically our Monday and we went to bed to wake up to the big day. This Tuesday was the big day. Do you want to take a break? And then we come back and we'll fill them in on the day of my scene and then the day that we shot the podcast so we can talk all about those things. Perfect. Yeah. Let's take a little break. Hear from the partners and sponsors of the Swing Nation podcast. And then when we get back, We'll hear all about Lacey's big scene. We'll be right back, guys. Dan, if someone is just recently joining the lifestyle and they don't really know where to begin, what do you recommend? Well, the lifestyle, you know, is 2025. And people are on the internet. They are. And there just so happens to be lifestyle websites that are dedicated people connecting in the lifestyle. Yes. SDC happens to be one of our favorites. Over 3 million users. You can find people in your area. You can find clubs. You can find parties. All of it is right on SDC. And you can get a huge discount by signing up with us. You can. So all you got to do is if you're looking for lifestyle people in your area, if you're looking for the clubs, if you're looking for the parties, go to the swing nation dot info recommended apps and products. Scroll down to the SDC icon. 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Really, it's the community that keeps those memberships on swingerside.net that really keep this whole thing running. Yes. If you're a Diamond member, it gets you early access. to tickets. So you can get those VIP tickets in the clubs and those preferred rooms at a place like Secrets. Our Diamond members usually grab all that up. So if that's something that you're interested in, you definitely want to become a Diamond member. Or if you just want to support us, support what we're doing and help us pay our staff, please go sign up and be a Diamond member. It's super helpful for us. And you can do that by going to swingersociety.net. Correct. And sign up today. Hopefully you come become part of our community. And we hope to see you at a future event. Yeah. Thanks, guys. All right, guys. Welcome back. Welcome back. Thank you for listening to our sponsors. We love our sponsors. OK, so when we left you, we just got done the touristy part of our trip to L.A. Now it was time to get down to business. Yes. So we had to be at their studio by certain. I think it was like nine or ten. And so, you know, I got up early, you know, made sure I was mentally prepared. I was not supposed to find out how many guys I was going to fuck. Spoiler alert, I accidentally. They sent a call sheet. Yeah, they sent a call sheet and there was, I saw there was four guys. I didn't know who any of them were. I didn't look up any of them. I didn't know nothing about them, but I did know there was four guys. Right. So I. So Vixen Media sent us a call sheet. And on the call sheet, it says, like, oh, at this time, show up at this location. And there has, like, a roll call of who is supposed to show up. And it shows both the actors and the staff. And so in the actors, she saw herself and then these four other guys' names. I was like, oh, shit. So I did have a little anxiety leading up to it because I'm like, you know, I fucked a lot of guys at one time. But very few has it ever been just, like, me and all those guys. And I'm like, I don't even have enough holes in hands for all of these. You know, I'm like, what do I do? You know, so I had a little anxiety leading up to it, but was still very excited about it. So we get to the studio and we walk in and it was pretty surreal to like walk in and see, you know, it's, they kind of have an iconic studio that if you've watched any of their scenes, it's got the big W and the wifey and the big round bed and the, like, There's like a vanity with the light. So it was, I don't know, it felt like, okay, we're doing this. Like it felt real. Does that make sense? I get that. Yeah, sure. But so essentially, we got there and we kind of jumped right into it. I will say everyone there was so amazing. They made me feel like the star of the show. And I'm sure they shoot these like every week. And I'm sure they're doing this every week to all these girls. So like hats off to them for making, each individual girl feel like the star week in and week out. So we jumped in. I, in the beginning, you'll see like an intro, like where we're walking in. That's not real. You know, we, we had, they, so they dressed me for that. So we picked out an outfit. They had to take a few pictures of it. They have to send it in to see like the big bosses. I don't know who they send it to, but somebody has to make a decision. And while we were waiting for that decision, that's when I went and got my hair and makeup done, which I was probably the most about getting my hair and makeup done by a professional. And it was fun. You know, the whole time I was getting that done, you were there, you come out in your, your cute outfit and there's photographers and videographers that are taking my picture, kind of getting like behind the scenes footage of all of that. It was, it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it. No, it was cool. Yeah. And it is funny that like you said, so you show up and whatever you're wearing, they bring you in and they, they dress you in your casual clothes. Then you go back out into the car and then they have you film the little, we just got to the wifey studio. And then you come in and, you know, kind of do the thing. So that's kind of cool. And then, yeah, you sat and got your hair and makeup done. And then really it was just kind of, you were kind of the star of the show. The cameras taking pictures. They gave me the official wifey phone. So you'll see, you know, even in the video and stuff, they cut to my phone quite often. And so that's actually. I thought you killed the angles, by the way. Like some of my favorite angles on the videos were the ones that you were shooting yeah you know it's almost like I've done this for you know my body or something yeah uh yeah so I actually filmed quite a bit and they actually did use the content from the phone quite a bit in our take of the video so that was good so after my hair and makeups then that like Dan said we change into like our arrival outfit and we go and we walk in like we've seen it for the first time and then after that uh they dress me for our interview portion and I I tried on several dresses and they ended up putting me in that black outfit which happened to be some like famous designer outfit that they just happened to have and it honestly kind of fit me like a glove and I felt like really honored and beautiful in that super fancy expensive outfit I loved it so yeah they they got us you know in it they got me microphone which is like funny because there's like this sweet little guy and he's having to like go up we ended up having to put the microphone up through my dress and in my booze because there was not like a good place to come from the side. Yeah. So he was like all in my business. He's like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm like, it's, it's okay. I promise, you know? So he, you know, he got me all in that. And then that's when we did our interview. So you were in your suit and that's the whole morning was basically us filming that entire interview, um, session that you see. Yeah. And it was interesting to do that. So the way they do that is you sit on the couch and then they have a interviewer you're the interviewee so the interviewer is like sitting behind the camera right so she's actually asking you questions i don't think you really get to hear the questions once they in the in the final edit but she's sitting there and she's asking you questions and then you just talk you know and answer your questions it is interesting to see how kind of they all splice it together and cut it it's not like in chronological order it's kind of like they cut here and there but i also and i also liked it during the interview If you go and you watch the actual episode, it'll be like, Lacey would be talking about like, oh yeah, I really enjoy big dicks or something. And then they'll cut to part of you getting like a little teaser of you getting fucked. And then they'll cut back to the interview, which is kind of clever. And it's, we've learned like, cause we've done quite a few interviews over the years. Like you never know what soundbite they're going to grab. And so one of the soundbites, Dan was talking about the pastor that we interviewed on the podcast, talking about how, you know, the lifestyle is a lot of what he thought the church was going to be as far as the community and stuff but it's funny because that's like in the trailer the trailer that they use that same clip in like four or five different things that i've seen yeah it's funny that which that was a very impactful podcast so it is i'm glad that that made it but it's so crazy as how we can sit there and interview for hours and they pick that one thing we did we did an interview years ago for a magazine and the title was it's all fun and games until mom finds out you're a swinger. And I, cause I just happened to mention that my mom found out, you know, that we were swingers on social media. And, but that was like the thing. So you just never know what they're going to pick. But genuinely the interview was for me personally was very easy. It's very similar to what we do here on the podcast. And when I'm on TikTok live, I didn't feel like they were trying to like get me or insulin. It definitely felt like we were just telling our story, like talking to, for other people, like a lot, like that had done it or were going to do it. They were like, I'm so nervous about the interview. And I'm like, for me, that's the easiest part of it all was the talking because they were so comfortable doing that. So the interview part was definitely my cup of tea. Yeah. Once we finished, several people were like, we can tell you guys have a podcast. We can tell you guys have done this before. Because like you said, we've sat through so many interviews and we've told our story so much on this podcast that a lot of those questions are almost automatic at this point. Yeah. So after that, we had lunch. And so the guys were there during lunch, but because I wasn't supposed to see them, they were in a different room. Like they were, they had to eat lunch in their like dressing room and stuff, which I kind of felt bad. And then, but also some of our friends that had done wifey, they got to know the guys like during lunch, they got to talk to them and get to know them and kind of get a little bit of chemistry before you just go in and fuck. So like we kind of missed out on that, but also that's sort of part of, that's what makes it fun. And then after lunch, we did what they call pretty girl pics. So that's going to be me in my lingerie. So they put me in red lingerie because we knew I was going to be Valentine's Day even then. So I'm in the red lingerie. And then they also did me in the wifey outfit. They have that traditional, like they do it for everybody. It's the black and the white. So I think I did both colors. Yeah, it almost looks like a bra and panties, but I guess it is, or bikini or bra and panties. I don't know what you really want to call that, but it has like the wifey.com logo on all the straps. Yeah, and probably the most I was self-conscious was doing the pictures, just from like a girl's perspective, because like I'm standing there in like the highest hills. They had me in Louboutins, and they're so high. I could barely walk in the things, and I'm trying to like move and be sexy and kind of give them like motion. But it's honestly hard for me to stand in the heels. Yeah. And they're like blowing air on me. And listen, I've taken pictures with Dan. I've taken a lot of pictures of the year and consider myself like not a professional, but like semi pro. Yes. Semi. I felt a fish out of water in this case, you know, and I just there was a lot of people there. It just I kind of like felt like now if I did it again. Right. I think I would feel even the the second day when I did it, I felt better. So if I do it again, I feel like I would get even better. But I definitely felt like an imposter. Like, who am I, you know, in this? And, you know, I don't have a perfect body, you know? I mean, I have bruise. Like, you can see I have bruise on my ass. You can see that in some of the stuff. You know, I have scars from surgeries and stuff. So that part was definitely nerve-wracking. But I will say that their entire team made me feel nothing short of amazing yeah they're very good the whole time you're taking pictures and stuff that both the photographers and some of the wifey staff they're like oh my god Lacey you look so beautiful yeah they're so good oh that's so sexy hold that right there oh your smile your eyes like they're kind of complimenting you and kind of the whole time which and guiding me to like different poses and stuff because I wasn't super confident you know at home I can put myself in all the poses but there I just felt like I needed their help and so they They were wonderful. And then after that is when you see some of the, like, so then I did the photos where I'm blindfolded, where the guys had been around me. And let me tell you, I was so turned on. Like, the build up, because I was like, I knew I was going to fuck. And honestly, let's be real, I was pretty damn nervous. These guys, I knew they were going to have giant dicks. I knew they did. Because all the wifey guys do. All the wifey guys have ginormous dicks. So, like, I was nervous, but, like, at some point in here, I just, like, I was so turned on. So, they bring the guys out, and I'm blindfolded, and they have the guys, like, around me, and they're all old up, and they're all hard already, and their hard dicks are, like, touching my ass, and I am so turned on. Like, I was ready to fuck right then. Like, throw me on this bed, and let's just make this happen. But we got those shots where you see where I'm doing this with my finger, and then, And there's some, like, all of those, like, pretty amazing shots. That's when all of those happen. And then shortly after that is when we actually went into the scene. And so before, though, they let me, like, go and make sure I needed, if I needed to clean, if I needed to have a sip, if I needed to brush my teeth, if I needed, you know, all the stuff you do right before you have sex. So I went and did all that. And then we came back out, me blindfolded. And then that's when. No, it was, we came back out, they sat us on the couch, because what they wanted it to look like is we just finished the interview, got up, and then walked you to the bed. Oh, okay. So we sat on the couch, we stood up together, walked to the bed, I sat you down, and then I blindfolded you. Oh, okay. But either way, we, basically after all of that, it was time for the scene. And there was some, like, let me, I don't want to, like, skim over it, because I think it's important. There was some consent. You know, we had to talk about consent and what everybody was comfortable and not comfortable with. And obviously with a blindfold situation, it had to be handled. Certain way. Certain way. But I want to make sure that we do talk about that because I think that is very important regardless of if it's being on film or not. We went around the room. We talked about all the things. Right. It actually reminded me of like the conversations you have before having an orgy. Yeah. Okay with what? Like, you know, so Lacey got to say, please don't come in my face. I don't know anal sex, you know, and basically I think all the guys said no anal sex. Don't put anything in my butt. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, nobody had anything crazy, but it was, I was happy that that. Right. It was nice to see that. It was good. It's good that they do that. Yeah. So I don't want to take away from the magic of the video, but I do think that's important to mention that. And then after that, I mean, they, they just jumped right in. Um, I, I assumed I would be like, like naked or in lingerie. No, I was started in my dress, which was actually kind of hard because it was quite the restricting dress. But honestly, it was kind of a blur. There was a lot of dicks. A lot. They're huge. I mean, like the biggest dicks I've ever seen in person. Yeah. At some point throughout it, I did. They did take the blindfold off. So I did get to see them. All gorgeous guys. All amazing. I picked them all out for you. Yeah. We didn't really talk about this, but. But part of leading up to this was I had a call without Lacey with the production crew and or casting, I guess. And they went through the guys and they I think they gave me a list of, I don't know, seven or eight guys. And they were like, these are the guys that we're thinking. And what do you think? And I got to kind of go through and be like, OK, I think these would be the ones that Lacey would pick four or how did the four come four guys come in? I think I can't remember. I actually think they wanted to do five initially. And I think I was thinking more like three. And I think we settled on four. I think that's how it happened. Yeah, four was a lot. I mean, I've fucked four guys lots of time that have all four on me at one time, especially blindfolded. I didn't quite know where to grab. You know, I was like feeling around in a dark room just trying to, you know, like I was trying to have like muscle memory to remember. where they were moving. Also, there is a lube guy who was precious. He would run in and squirt lube. So the guys all had a lot of lube on their dick. And I don't particularly like the taste of lube in my mouth. So then their dicks would come and they were like covered with lube. And I was trying just to like suck it up for the sake of like the video. But there was there was a lot of there was just a lot of. And because they were fucking me and and then not and then they would move so that wasn't like they would step off and clean it off you know like it was ready something else we didn't talk about that we probably should have when we were considering doing this is there was no protection which is a huge boundary for dan and i it's sort of our platform let's be real like we this whole podcast is like our main thing is use protection and get tested and communicate everything with your partner so for us to choose to do this without was honestly a big deal. I had not had sex with anybody without a condom in a long time other than you. Also, there was going to be cream pies that were going to come in me. No one has ever came in me other than you since we've been together. So all of that was a huge decision making. And I kind of struggled with it. But I will say that wifey did a wonderful job of being being professional as far as like the testing and the results and like how they handled it and made me feel very comfortable um we are still doing everything that we always have we're still using condoms we're still getting tested nothing has changed this was sort of an exception to that rule yeah one and i think in this situation it's okay because again everybody had to get tested right before the shoot you know you have to give your results you know uh the actual production crew has direct access to the results through TTS. So it's not even like, there's no option to like doctor the results or something like that. You know, so you have to give TTS permission to pull it from, you know, or to give the production crew permission to pull it straight from TTS. So I mean, for a situation where you're, if you're going to have unprotected sex, it's the safest way you can possibly do it. Yeah. And they're all professionals. If they tested positive for something, they would be out of work until it was resolved. So them not contracting something, with no, you fuck for five minutes with him and then switch. I mean, honestly, some of our OnlyFans is more planned out than this was. No, it was very much the guys put you where they wanted you. You went with it and the cameras just kind of followed up. That was what I was surprised about. I thought it would be much more, okay, get in this position, you do this, you do that. I thought the director would be saying those kind of things, but it was probably because these guys have done this so much they know what they're doing. But they basically... And I kind of went into it with almost like a submissive sort of mindset because there were so many of them and only one of me. I can't really take control. You know, like I kind of had to let them lead me and put me where they wanted me and show me. And honestly, that's my favorite way of having sex. So that's Lacey's style. So I love that. So you should tell me what you want. You want me to bend over. You want me on top. You want me, you know, and that's sort of what happened. And that's why I kind of say it was sort of a blur because it just there were so many dicks and so much going on. I think we fucked for like 40 minutes, you know. need, you know, somebody with like a real fit, you know, like not to just take away from somebody that's like super fit and beautiful because there's a place for them too. But I am different than that. And that in itself made me feel very confident, very want. I felt like the guys wanted to be there. They weren't just like being paid to do it, which I've never been in a situation where somebody was being paid to have sex with me. So, you know, this is different. And they did a very good job of making me feel beautiful and like they wanted. They all seem super into it. That's for sure. Yeah. So they all came. So three of them came inside me if you haven't watched it. And one came on me because that was his boundary. He didn't want to come, you know, inside of a where another guy comes. So he just came on me. Y'all know I don't like come. And I was pretty proud of my that was, you know, what I did. And it's funny because on like on the video itself, you can like leave a review and somebody like several people mentioned, you know, oh, if she had done a facial, it would have been so much better. And one of y'all, commented and said, well, if you listen to the podcast, Lacey does not like cum in her face. And I thought she did a very good job. I even commented. I'm like, thanks for listening. Because yeah, I'm not a big cum in my face swallow. That's not my jam. It's funny. So what the director had said is, okay, the plan is three of you come inside of her. And then, you know, since one of them wasn't comfortable and, you know, coming in a vagina that had already got cummed in, he's like, you can come on her face. And Lacey just looked at me. And I'm like, Lacey, speak. And she's like, I don't like cum on my face and the director was like oh that's fine no problem where do you want it i'm like i don't care just you're like i don't know anywhere but my face and of course i think the guy was like well i'll come on her ass okay that works perfect and so literally that was that was it you know we wrapped um everybody excused themselves at least all the participants of the orgy we you know i went to the bathroom used the bathroom wiped up clean up there's actually a shower there and so i went and showered and rinsed off i think most of the guys Yeah, everybody showered. And then we did like kind of like a wrap up scene where we all sat on the couch and sort of talked about our experience. The director threw me the blindfold. So I still have it as like a souvenir. I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah. You got to keep the blindfold. Yeah. And then and then that was it. It was a wrap. And the guys left and and we left and we went. Honestly, I was not, you know, like I was a little worried about my actual physical body. after. I mean, because let's talk it like 10 inches was probably the smallest. Yeah. One of them's probably like 13, 14. They're huge, huge guys. So I was worried about my physical. And they were not gentle. I mean, they fucked you like legitimately fucked you. I also say that the whole scene of everybody having sex, like there was no act. It didn't seem like there was acting like the guys were. I mean, obviously, these guys know how to fuck and they know how to position you. And there's some of that. But like, if you were moaning, you were moaning because you like there was no. Like, we watched the video. There's one that's like squirt running down my legs. I was very much turned on. It was very much real. You know, so like leaving it, I wasn't like in pain. I was like, oh, I feel great. I was exhausted just from like being on for the whole day. We ended up going back to the condo and I was asleep by 830. Lacey did not fuck me. No, which is like part of like wifey's whole thing. We're a terrible hot wife couple. You just to like reclaim. But honestly, I was dead. Not that my pussy hurt or anything like that. I was just physically exhausted from sitting up straight and getting my hair done and my makeup. The interview was just a very long, long, hard day. So yes, we did obviously have sex. The next day. The next day. But we kind of failed that night. I mean, I was even supposed to wash and dry my hair again. I was like, there's no way. I cannot physically blow dry. these extensions. I'm going to do it in the morning. So that's what we did. We got, we, we slept, you know, we went to bed and then, okay, so let's switch gears. So now the scene is done. Most wifey couples, they leave. Right. But because of the podcast and everything, they actually requested us to do a second day. For socials. For socials and then to film the podcast. This is actually their idea to do. And obviously we're like, say less. You want us to film a podcast on your on in your studio? Hell yeah. Well, yeah. Well, there was some discussion, you know, we were talking about doing a podcast there. And then at first they were like, oh, well, I can just bring my equipment and we can film it like we would film it here, but at their studio. And then they were like, well, would you guys be OK if if our staff, you know, if we used our our photographers and videographers to film to film it? And I was like, hell yeah. Like you guys are, you know, we're pretty amateur at this. Yes, you guys are the professionals. So I would love to see our podcast like produced by your team. Yeah. So that's what we did. So the next morning I got up because I went to bed so early. I had to get up early, wash my hair and then get like dry it. And then we had to go back. I don't think we were there quite as early as the day before. It wasn't as long of a day, but still a pretty full day. So we get we go right back to the studio. It felt like we had just been there. And I go right in to the land. because there really wasn't a whole lot of like picking. I mean, I, they did dress me for the podcast and stuff, but there wasn't a whole lot of like picking out outfits and getting approval. Cause this was kind of a different, they're so used to doing their wifey scene. They have it down pat. This was just a little bit out of the norm. So hair, makeup done again. And, um, shortly after that, you know, I started making tech talks with their, um, team, their team. They had their social media people come in. And so you'll see me. We've already posted a couple of them. I don't know. They've posted a couple. I think we've posted a couple, yeah. You'll see us. You know, I did like, do you want to do the house tour where I show all the wifey stuff? And then Dan and I did a couple. And that was a lot of fun. And then shortly, about the time we were doing all of that, the couple that we interviewed, which is named Jessie and Matt, wifey chose that couple. They came in and we got to meet them. And she kind of went right into glam once I got done. And then we did some more pictures. So you see, you know, you've seen the outfits with me in the black with the white background. So we did a second day of pictures and we have a pink background and I have the white outfit on. So when you see, when you're scrolling on social media and you see those, you can now understand that that was two different days. So the second day was a lot of me and Dan. Dan got to wear like the wifey sweater. They dressed him and, you know, I have the white outfit on. And then there's even some pictures with us and Jesse and Matt. And then there's some pictures with me and Jesse. Now, can we talk about Jesse? First of all, she is absolutely gorgeous. I'm sure she's some sort of fitness model. She probably weighs like 110 pounds. I think she was a professional. I don't know how much she's shared, but she's done professional athletic type stuff. Yes. And so like taking pictures next to her was extremely Intimidating. She has done lots of pro shoots. I don't know what lots is, but she's done a hell of a lot more than I have. She's an exclusive Vixen model. She only shoots with Vixen, and she does, I think, most of their brands. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was walking in those heels and hitting those moves, and I am like a fish out of water. This is the second time now I've did it. Not to mention, her body, there are no imperfections, which She would probably point out all of her information. That's what we do, girls. But like me looking at her, I'm like, how in the hell are these pictures going to turn out? You know, it's like me next to her. Honestly, they're not. I like them. I thought that I would hate them and I really actually like them. A lot of them, they put us in like a white button up their front shirt, which they had done that for the wifey reunion. It looked really good. It kind of hided the fact that I probably weigh 50 pounds more than her. Oh, stop. But I'm just, it is what it is. saying it in a negative way, it just is what it is. We are very different build people. And we showcase different things. And I think there's a market for both of us. I think we're both beautiful, but very different. But when you put us next to each other, it kind of points out those imperfections. Let me just put it that way. Okay. So after we took pictures with her is when we had lunch. So we had lunch. Again, it was a very low key day compared to the day before. And then also, I didn't have the fact that I was about to get dicked down by four giant dicks, like looming over. It seemed much more relaxed. And everybody kept saying, you're doing so good for your senior. Like, I can't believe you're just like here and you're fine. I'm like, I really was honestly fine. I didn't, I thought I would be dying, but I really wasn't. And then, so after lunch is when we got into wardrobe for the podcast. so they picked our outfits out um we've had to do some adjusting to the video because the wifey youtube does not like wifey.com uh yeah so a couple things one your boobs are too big for the wifey tops yes um so they're they had to edit your nipple out of almost the whole video your nipple was out in quite a bit of the video which is funny because there was a person there that their job was to make sure my nipple didn't come out yeah but i think because we were kind of sitting at an angle you couldn't really see your second boob and that's the one that kept sticking out. Uh, and then the second thing is wifey.com. We posted it. We actually posted the podcast on YouTube and it got taken down because they flagged the wifey.com that was on, uh, your shirt shirt and then, um, Jesse's shirt and then, um, Matt's hat, uh, as porn as a porn site. And so we, so poor wifey's production team had to re-edit the, so they, I mean, who knows how many hours they spent editing this podcast, but then they had to go back and blur all of the the wifey dot com logos that we could then put it back up onto YouTube. So if you noticed last week that it was down for a while and then went back up, that's what it was. It went up for like half a day. YouTube took it down. It had to go back to production, get re-edited and then go back up. So thank you, wifey. You know, I know this isn't normally what they do. They don't normally produce podcasts. And then the fact that they had to produce it once and then go back and produce it again, I feel bad for. But, you know, obviously we didn't know about the the logo thing. If we were to do this again, I bet we would not wear.com. Yeah. Even like when we were in LA last week, I had the wifey.com shirt on and they were like kind of freaked out, you know, by I'm like, I'll cover it with my hair. It's fine. Yeah. But yeah, so we did the whole podcast. They pretty much let us sort of, they kind of gave us some talking points, but kind of let us do our normal format, which I loved. You know, at the end we did, you know, make sure we covered everything. But overall, it was such an amazing experience. There were several times while we were, like, filming it that I was like, someone pinch me. Are we really in L.A.? On a Hollywood set. On a Hollywood set with our little old podcast that we used to do in, like, the car, you know, back in the day with the cell phones. It was very surreal. It made, I don't know, it was, like, almost brought tears to my eyes sort of situation that this little thing has grown to something so magical. so big so thank you wifey for that yeah so definitely go check out if you haven't seen that episode uh on youtube go go get at least go take a look at it yeah it's very very well done very well produced um wifey's team crushed it and honestly it's a good conversation i mean if you're curious about hot wifing or if you're curious about wifey and kind of what they're about um that story is pretty good so go take a listen to that episode yeah so after that we pretty much like wrapped all of that up and we went back to the condo and we had dinner with the guy who had invited like who had led us into the condo he's one of the higher ups at vixen we had a lovely dinner with him and we kind of went you know just sort of summarize the week talked about potential you know working together it was really nice it was it was a nice um like into the week and then we literally went back and then crashed again. I will say the next day I felt like I had been hit by a car. It took about 48 hours but I definitely felt like. It's funny because that reminds me, you know, when you go to the gym, anybody that works out knows, right? You go work out chest heavy. It's not the day after. It's two days after when it hits you and that's exactly what happened to you. Yeah. So I was like, I feel like I've been in a car accident. Like my arms hurt. Like everything. I had done either that or like a full body workout. I was so sore. Like getting home, I was like, am I getting sick? Like, you know how like if you get the flu, like you have the body aches. I'm like, what is going on with me? But really, I was just, you know, I had just been fucked really, really good. And by four giant dicks. You got hit by four trains. But overall, you know, just to like kind of summer to like wrap this up. The whole experience was honestly. I really didn't know what we were kind of getting ourselves in when we opted to do this and even now even you know after everything's been released and everything I cannot stress enough how wonderful their entire team is and professional and I've never felt more beautiful even we were there last week and I had to do a fitting and the lady was like she was helping me pick my outfit and she was like talking me up and I was like girl anytime I'm feeling down about myself I'm gonna come need your number I'm gonna hang out with you because you make me feel like the most beautiful girl that's ever walked in and it's just it's so refreshing um and it's just it's been a very nice working together uh i know that you know a lot of swingers have opinions about porn and being being filmed and stuff like that but i will say definitely like if if you are a porn connoisseur like i am i love a good porn i watch it every night if you want me to be honest um I would definitely give them a shout-out. And I don't say that because they're paying me or anything. We've been paid. At this point, it's just I genuinely think that what they're doing is pretty awesome. Well, that's what I would say. I would say if you're somebody that's hearing this and you're critical of Wifey or you think, oh, Dan and Lacey have sold out and this isn't on brand for what they stand for, they're going after the money, go to Wifey's social media. Yeah. Go take a listen to some of the, you know, because they have the clipped interviews on their social media pages and stuff like that. And then I would even challenge you to go subscribe to their page and watch some of these episodes. And I think if, you know, I can see on the surface why you might think that. But I think if you dig a little deeper and see what they actually are and see what the kind of information and the product that they're putting out, you'll see that it's very on brand with what we're doing. And I stand behind that and nobody's going to convince me that that's not true. We've also got some criticism that we're not like a true hot wife couple. And if you actually listen to our episode. We said swinging a lot. Well, first of all, we say swinging a lot. And they try to focus more on non-monogamy instead of like swinging because that does have a negative tone. We also very on. We're very honest in our interview. We say that we are a full swap couple. You know, have we engaged with unicorns? Have we engaged with single guys? Yes. But primarily we are a full swap couple. And I don't think we've ever like denied that. And like, that's not something we're trying. We're not changing any of that. It was just honestly, if you want my honest opinion, it wasn't about the money because truthfully, we make way more money on OnlyFans. And that's not addictive Vixen or anything like that. That's just pro shoots compared to like OnlyFans. We did this for the experience and the exposure. I mean, that's just the truth. And we had a wonderful experience. And I really hope that we can continue this relationship. with them going forward. Our Only Vans is not going away. Our podcast is not going. Everything is still the same. It's just a small aspect of kind of what we did. And honestly, we lived out a fantasy. And isn't that what this is all about right now? No, and that's what I would say is, yes, me and Lacey are not primarily hot wife couples. That's not the lifestyle we live on day to day. But we've had several. I don't even know how many. probably dozens or so um hot wife type experiences with lacy has gone and had sex with a guy without me or or me just watching or just filming um and so it's it's something that we dabble in and and this was was authentically a fantasy that we both had uh and we got to live it out on a stage where everybody can go and see it and honestly i don't think if me and lacy had tried to do this fantasy it would not have been without wifey It would not have been nearly as epic. No, no way. I wouldn't have been able to find four guys like they found four guys. I don't think anybody could have found those guys. No, and all of their dicks work. And then they just left. We didn't have to deal with them. It was lovely. Right. And that's 100% on brand with who we are, what we like to do. So judge us if you want to, but I don't feel bad about it. I had a fucking amazing time. Listen, and ladies, I know that you do see content creators on there. Like, obviously, I am, but they don't, they want everybody. It doesn't matter if you have a following, if you don't, if you're just a couple. Like, if you have a cool story to tell, and you're willing to tell it on a public stage, they're more than happy to, you know, take your application and look you over, and they're always adding new people. They do, like, a lot of these. Like, I don't even know where they're finding all these people. Yeah, yeah. If you're a hot wife couple, or maybe you're not a hot wife couple. Somebody that's willing to play them. When you have a hot wife fantasy and you're okay with going public with that fantasy, I don't think there's a better platform in the world for you to have an experience. You can go find guys on Tinder or wherever. You're not going to have the experience like what Lacey had on the set of Wifey. All right. Anything else about Wifey and your experience, your first pro shoot in Hollywood? I just want to say a quick shout out to Vixen. And Wifey in particular, thank you so much for being nothing but amazing to Dan and I and treating us with so much respect and kindness and, you know, all the things that you've allowed us to do in such a short amount of time. You know, our trip to L.A. last week was honestly like we would have never have had a Valentine's Day like that if it had not been for y'all. So thank you so much for giving us, you know, a place to share our story. And we just very, very appreciative of all of that. I also want to thank all of the people that follow us. I kind of expected some backlash, you know, I knew kind of what I was getting into. And by far, it's all been positive. Y'all have all been very amazing and supporting me and loving me and giving me words of encouragement. And as soon as this was announced, how just like, y'all just like, jumped on and have, you know, have went to Vixen Plus and subscribed and watched us and left comments and reviews and It kind of shows what kind of community we have, which is kind of crazy. But it is a community. And so I just, from a personal woman standpoint, thank you all very, very much. It has meant the world to me. And I just, thank you. All right. Well, I don't think I can say it any better than that. So I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, we have a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. 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