Bliss Cruise Part 3: The Nude Beach, The Orgy… and the Fight That Ended It All

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If you want to party with us and the other faces and names that you know from social media and TikTok, head on over to swingersociety.net. Can't wait to see you there. Hey there, pineapple people. And welcome to the swing nation podcast. We are your host, Northern guy and Southern girl. And we are back with another full length episode of the swing nation podcast. Um, back on bliss cruise. I know. I feel like we're, this is being very drawn out. This is like the bliss crew saga. It's like a month. It's going to take like a month series. Well, that's what happens when you go on like an eight day cruise and you go, a day before. So we technically have four days left to go. So the last two should be pretty quick because we didn't do a whole lot the last two. So we'll try to move along because I'm sure y'all are ready for something else. We're kind of ready to talk about something else, but I think Bliss deserves full attention. It's a marathon. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Yeah. Okay, so we're on day five, which is, again, technically day four of the cruise, but we in a day early. Day four of the cruise, day five of our trip, when we left you, we had just had an orgy in the grass under the stars on the lawn. Which is funny because this is coming out in real time. We're recording this as they come out. And we forgot something very important that I think it's worth going back and mentioning really quick. Yeah, go for it. So the theme of that night was fairy. And we talked about like half the people were like fairy tales. and the other ones were actual fairies. Yeah. One of the couples, the wife wore this like backpack that was like fairy wings on a backpack. So she was like a fairy princess. And her wings, instead of like being the traditional wings where you, you know, put them on with straps, it was a little like rave backpack. You know, those little mini backpacks. I think it was a kid's backpack. And it had, the fairy wings were actually attached to the backpack. Yeah. And that's what she wore, which was super cute because she could carry her stuff, her phone and stuff like that. And she also had her wings for her fairy outfit. Well, after the podcast came out, the husband was like, I cannot believe the wings did not get their mention because he actually fucked on the lawn with the wings, which it was kind of my fault because he was going to get accused getting ready to fuck me. And he was going. So he's butt ass naked. Yeah. He's getting ready to fuck you. Yeah. And he reaches for the backpack because in the fairy wing backpack, where's their lube and their Yeah. I think he was going for a condom. Yeah. But I thought he was like putting it on. I was like, oh, you're wearing the fairy wings. And so he ended up putting the fairy wings on and then like fucking the whole night. And it was like kind of a thing the whole time. And it's still kind of a thing. So have you ever been fucked by a fairy before? Probably. Yeah. I don't think you've ever been fucked by one actually wearing wings though. Not on a cruise ship. On the lawn. Under the stars. Under the stars. So I hate to go back a little, but it was totally worth mentioning. And that's the thing. Like I make the notes at night. Um, if y'all are wondering how we keep up with this at night, at dinner, I usually will make my notes and I do forget stuff. And so sometimes people will be like, Oh, what about this? Or what? Like, damn it. I forgot to mention that. That was definitely worth bringing up. Yeah. Okay. So we finished that up. Yeah. Uh, went and got our pizza and then went to bed and that brings us and we woke up, uh, the next Which we went to, so we were, it was our first day at Port. At Port, yeah. It was St. Martin, and we had not booked any excursions, because we have found, and this is just our opinion, but the Bliss, like, doing excursions on Bliss, I don't know, I feel like we always end up spending a bunch of money, and it's not very fun, unless you can get, like, a handful of couples to all book it, and all go. Right. Because, like, we've done, like, swimming dolphins, and that was fun. So we've done some stuff that was fun, but what has happened in the last few years or last few trips is we've ended up just going by ourselves on something, and then it was just like, okay. Yeah. It wasn't very great. So we said, we're not booking any excursions this time. But then once we got on the ship, a lot of our friends were like, well, there is a nude beach at St. Martin, and there is an excursion that will take you to that beach, and then you can actually do that, which obviously we were like, hell yeah. Yeah. So we did that. We booked it, but we had to get off the ship at 11 or so. I actually wanted to go and get a magnet and walk around. We were going to go and see if we could find Lexapro, even though the ship was also trying to find it for us. We got up, we had our breakfast, and then we headed out. It was extremely hot. It was a very far walk. It was kind of pointless, to be honest with you. The actual boardwalk to the ship was very, very long. Yeah. And the problem was we left like 30 minutes before we were supposed to meet for the excursion. We got sidetracked. Something happened. We had intentions of leaving early. I think we ran into somebody. Something happened and the time got messed up. So basically we had just enough time to get off the ship into the little village outside of the port there to check for, to see if there was a pharmacy. Yeah. Which we, we couldn't really find anything. So we, I went and bought a magnet and I asked the lady, I said, are there, any pharmacies around here? She said, they're closed. And I'm like... She said, they're closed because of the holiday. Keep in mind, it's Veterans Day. It's Veterans Day, yeah. So we're like, huh. I didn't know St. Martin's celebrated Veterans Day. We're like, hmm, that's odd. You know, so we didn't... Whatever. But okay, yeah. So she did tell us to go across the street. There was like a... It was almost like a drugstore. Like a CVS kind of thing, yeah. We went across the street and I was able to get like... I'm a huge Excedra migraine person. I was able to get that. and a couple things, but we asked that pharmacy guy and they were like, no, we don't. They were open. No, that one was close. You're thinking the next day we asked. Oh, was it? Yeah. Oh, okay. Nevermind. So yeah, this one was close. This one, the pharmacy was closed. Yeah. So then we met up with everybody to like get on the bus to take us to the excursion. And that's when we learned it's actually St. Martin's day. Yeah. So as we're getting on the bus and they're driving us to the beach, the lady's like, Like, today is St. Martin's Day, which is, I guess, the day that Christopher Columbus discovered St. Martin's, it sounded like, from what she was explaining, which I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't either. But I was like, oh, that makes more sense on why they don't celebrate Veterans Day at St. Martin's Day. We were like, what? But that's why the pharmacy was closed. That was why. So, spoiler alert, they were not able to get Lexapro on the ship because... The pharmacies were closed. The pharmacy was closed. For St. Martin's Day. Yeah, so... So, anyway, we took a bus. to, what's it called? Do you remember the name? I don't remember the name. I want to call it Hall Over Beach, but I know that's not it. No, that's Miami, yeah. I have to find it. I didn't write it down. But it basically, so we arrive at this like beach and there's a bunch of huts and stuff where you can like. Which is on the French side. So if you don't know, St. Martin's is split into two sides. One is the American side and the other is the French side. So the bus actually took us to the French side where this beach was. So we get off the bus and we go, and like you said, they had their little hut with a little restaurant, and they were serving all these fancy margarita drinks and all this stuff, and then there's beach chairs out on the beach, and they'd actually reserved us chairs for this excursion because it was part of the thing we booked. And you get free drinks. So everybody goes out to the beach, they start grabbing chairs, and then people start getting naked. There was kids there. Right. Lacey starts looking around, and there's families, there's children, and we're like, something doesn't quite seem right. Right here. I just, listen, I don't want to, I don't want this to be judgmental because I actually talked to somebody later and she, and she made a good point. She's like, I don't want to judge others for what they do. You know, if you feel comfortable getting naked in front of a kid, that's, that's you. I personally just did not feel comfortable. And I even asked our tour guide who was pouring us drinks and stuff. And I was like, can we be naked here? And she was like, technically you're not supposed to, you're supposed to go down the beach a little ways. But what you expose your children to is your business. Essentially saying that these people... Well, I thought she said you could be, but typically most of the nudity is down the beach. She said the rule is it's not a nude beach, but most people do it anyway. It's kind of like... They're not going to get on to you and tell you. But technically the nude beach was a little bit further. And so it took us a few minutes to kind of get everybody... Figure all that out. Yeah. So we decided to walk the beach. We were getting free drinks where we were And we had chairs And we had chairs But all the guys and stuff, y'all were like Well, let's get a couple of free drinks before we go So we are like downing these rum punch They were good They were very good So like I'm double fisting These, you know So we like downed one or two And then we grabbed another like one or two To take with us down the beach To go venture down the beach to find the nude part And she's like heavy pouring You know, there's no measurements There's no, she's just She's got a table set up on the beach. And a cooler, basically. So we ended up getting to the beach. There was no chairs where we were, which was fine. It didn't matter. We found the nude beach. And it was very apparent. There was like this little rock wall. As soon as you walked around the rock wall, there was a bunch of naked people. And there was a sign that was like, no cameras, no nothing. So we dropped our stuff, which is really funny because we ended up meeting somebody who was not on the cruise ship, who knew who we were. they were swingers and they were like oh my gosh they're like are y'all here on bliss we're like yeah so that's kind of cool i mean that doesn't happen right so there was a lot of bliss cruise people in that area but there was also a lot of just other yeah lifestyle people a lot of nudists and stuff most of them were american yes but yeah we ended up talking to they were all very nice they let us put our stuff under their umbrella yeah and uh yeah and then we got in the ocean well before we got in the ocean you and i stepped over to Oh, yeah. So where the sign was for the no cameras, we went like a little bit ahead of that because I wanted to take pictures. And I basically went to a part of the beach where there was nobody. Yeah. Yeah. But it wasn't technically the nude part because we wanted to be respectful. But so we took bikini pictures and then some nude pictures and all that. Because, I mean, like how often do you get to be completely nude on a beach? On a public beach. Yeah. So we're obviously going to take advantage of that. Yeah. So you can see those. Yeah. TheSwingNation.info if you want to see them. Your OnlyFans is actually 80% off right now. Which means it's $10. And you have over 150 videos on there. A little shameless plug there. Yeah. So go get that. That's actually the biggest discount you've ever done for your OnlyFans. It's a Christmas. Only this month. Okay. So we took all of those pictures and did all of that. And then we went back to the group. And we literally just stood in the water and drank and chatted. And Lacey got shit-faced. I got completely shit-faced. I think downing those two drinks, you were already shit-faced before we even got to the nude beach. Yes. And then at some point, you and Reno, there was a couple of guys that were like, we'll go get drinks. And they left. This ended up being a thing for the whole cruise. Yeah. And so it was me, Reno, and... Just a couple other guys. We'll just leave it at that. Okay. Yeah. But anyway, it ended up, we left. All of the girls. Yeah. With Mike. Mike. Mm-hmm. And this became like a thing. Like a couple of times in the playroom he got left. Like the guys were all rinsing off together. Yeah. And he got left. And then this time he was the only guy in the ocean. Every time we turned around Mike is with all the girls and all the other guys are like. And usually it's like we're going to do something. Yeah. He's like y'all got it. I got the girls. Don't worry. I'll watch the ladies. It was really funny. Yeah. And so when y'all. It took y'all forever. Yeah. To get. I think when we got back you guys were like all climbing on. him. And wasn't the drinks, like, didn't we get, like, eight drinks or something for, like, 30 bucks? Yeah, so we were a little disappointed because we had to abandon the free drink station that was on the not nude side. Which, I feel like if it's a nude beach excursion, they should have actually taken you to the nude beach, not... Well, no, it wasn't a nude beach excursion. Oh, it was just a beach excursion? So, like, if you read the excursion, you would have had no idea. The only reason we knew is because Reno couple... had been there like on a vanilla they were non-lifestyle and figured out that that was yeah so we that we just got the inside scoop oh well they totally should have advertised that they should have they would have got way more people to do it yeah but anyway so we were a little disappointed we had to abandon the drink station that was free but there was a little like tiki bar right next to where the nude on the nude beach side and so we're like uh i think after we you know finished the drinks that we had taken with us we're like oh let's go get some drinks so me and all the other guys except for mike went and got drinks but yeah i think we end up getting like 10 and it was like 30 bucks. We were like, this is awesome. Yeah. So good thing they were cheap, at least. So at some point, the excursion was over. It felt like it went bad really quick. It was probably because I was strong. And I did not know I was so shit face until I got out of the water. And we're like trying to walk back. And we at some point, I'm like laying on a table. Was it a table? Was it chairs? A rock, I think. The lady was like, no more for her. No more for her. And then we started talking about Hedo. I was telling them the story of Hedo and the mustache man. Uh huh. And that me getting shit face then. And then they're like recording me on Snapchat. Oh yeah. It was a whole thing y'all. I was. You were. You were. I'm surprised you weren't doing cartwheels. I wasn't. That's the point you were at. I wasn't. And I. I don't know. It was. I barely remember it. To be honest. I had a blast. And I always love it. Cause like all of our friends. I don't get to like super cut loose like that. Very odd. And it's. All of our friends are like, yeah, Lacey. Yeah. So. You were definitely being encouraged. Yes, I was. So we get on the, on the. The bus. The bus back. And everybody's like dying to go pee. Right. Yeah. We get on the bus and we start heading back to the port and we don't get, I mean, it was, what was it? It was a good 30 minute, 35 minute bus ride. But we get 10 minutes down the road and like the girls are all like, we have to pee. Well, and Sky was the one that was being very vocal about it. I knew I had to pee. But I couldn't. I didn't want to. She was already making a stink enough. So I was just going to keep my mouth shut. Then they pull over. They get her off the bus really quick. And I'm over there dying. So I have to. Anyway. We survived. We made it. Right. So once we pulled up to the port, the girls sprinted off of the bus to go pee. Yeah. And then there's videos and pictures of us walking from the bus to the ship. The ship, yeah. I don't even remember taking it. We're all drunk. That was honestly one of my favorite excursions we've probably ever done. Yeah, it really was. If you're ever in that area, I could probably Google really quick. The name of the beach? Yeah. Definitely worth checking out. Just know that where they drop you is not, you need to walk down the beach about, I don't know, 100 yards or so to get to the new park. It's Orient Bay Beach on the French side. Yeah, French side. It's known as being clothing optional. Right. So I think technically the whole, is clothing optional. They just keep it to that one part. There was a sign. Oh, yeah. I think that was. Yeah. Like because like when we were pulling in, we pulled past the big sign. There was other people on the other side that were topless. So I think it's kind of a European thing to that topless is not a big deal. I'm actually, you know, we've encountered some European people and they're always, I think, surprised when our beaches aren't topless. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So after that, we got back on the ship and And I had to nap. I was exhausted. So we napped for a little while. And then I had gotten my hair pretty wet being drunk in the ocean. So I had to wash my hair and do all of that. The problem is, in this, they're never going to listen to this. But let's just say somebody tells them, can we not do glow night on a court day? They always do the glow night on the days we are at port. And it is super hard to transition from getting back from your, the port or excursion or wherever you go into like then eating dinner, getting ready, napping, and then going to the glow night. It's a lot. But that's what, but it's all, but it's also the best night. So you have to like, you got to figure it out somehow. and went pretty hard during the day. We didn't glow quite as hard at glow night as I think we have in the past. Well, a lot of us were pretty exiled. Some of our friends didn't even make it to dinner. They ended up coming out, but we all kind of – and you're also talking – this is like four or five. You're right in the middle, so you're starting to hit that, like, we've been doing this for a couple nights. So it kind of takes a toll on you. So I kind of wish that Bliss would do it a little bit earlier. Like a day at sea where you can kind of take it easy and then go hard at night. Yeah. I think had Glow Night been the night before, we would have been able to go quite a bit harder. Yeah. So for this, we met everybody. Hold on, let me see. Okay. So we went to dinner with everybody. We are a big group. I did not have time to make any TikToks or pictures. or in my outfit was my favorite outfit. So many people have commented on the outfit. It's the outfit with the chaps. I got it from Etsy if you've seen that. I don't have any way of linking it for you, but I got it on Etsy. It came from the UK, to be honest with you. It's a super cute outfit. It's kind of got like a, what's that, that rainbow brand? Well, you know, Lisa Frank. You know, I am a 90s, 80s baby, raised in the 90s. Anything Lisa Frank themed, Colored I'm All About. Yeah, so it's kind of like a Lisa Frank rave outfit with chaps. Yes. It's the best way I can describe it. So that was my only issue is that because we were so rushed, I did not get any TikToks. A lot of, and because it was my favorite outfit, I was pretty sad. But don't worry, I will re-wear that outfit at some point because it is super cute. There's a few pictures on Instagram though. Yeah, there are a couple pictures. And then, so, and then we, so the way that Bliss does Glow Night is they do it on the top deck. So it's outdoors. I actually love it, how they do that. And I kind of wish they would do every party like that. I will say this cruise because at least half of the EDM nights were up in that Sky Bar, which was an outside. That helped, yeah. And then Glow Night was outside. So I would say we actually partied outside on this ship more than we partied inside, which is not the normal, but was very, very nice because it's so much cooler outside than it is in those club areas and stuff, especially when you get. 1,000 people stuffed in there. Now, I think they sprayed off the deck before. They're always out there cleaning to make sure everything looks nice. It was very slippery up there. From my knees down, my pants were completely soaked. I think it had rained or something, right? I didn't think so. It could have. It felt like they had rinsed it down. I ended up having to take the chaps off because it was soaked. and comfortable. But we always love Glow Night. It is a blast. The way they did the DJs, it's like every DJ gets like an hour or so. So it's like constantly changing DJs. It's just a lot of fun. Everybody is very jam-packed in there for no good reason. There is plenty of room. We just all somehow. But something about a DJ booth, it makes everybody try to get as close as they can. Yeah. Now I will say this year they actually like roped off the DJs. the stage area. In the years past, people have actually got up on the stage, and that whole area's got jam-packed before. So I kind of like that they kept that area closed off and didn't get swarmed. But no, it was good. Now, I will say, one more complaint, if Blitzkers is listening, the freaking speakers. Yeah, we were right next to the big speaker, and it was going in and out, in and out. And honestly, I think it would have just been better if they just cut it off. It killed the whole vibe. Just cut it off and use a different... get like used to the sound level and you'd get like jamming to the sound and then it would cut off and then when it cut off you're like you felt like you could barely hear the music and then like after a while you're kind of like okay well now i'm used to this sound level and i can kind of hear it you'd get jamming again and then all of a sudden the speaker would come back on and then it's like blaring loud and this would happen every like five minutes it felt like so it just kind of kept throwing you off like yeah yeah it the glow party and that first night in the back were definitely the parties where i felt like you could see the issues with production. Yeah. Those were the two big ones. The LED wall wasn't working for like half the party. It took them forever to get it figured out. Those fans, they had these really cool like 3D fans that had like the Bliss logos and stuff. They weren't on for most of it. And then one of them turned on for a little while and then turned back on. I don't, the whole, and I don't know if it's because we do parties now that, and it's like, it's like a pet peeve of that mine now that I notice all that kind of stuff. But like some of that was like driving me crazy. They also, Another cool thing is they gave you one of those armbands, kind of like you get at concerts. A lot of like Taylor Smith concerts and stuff like that. And I think I thought it was a really cool concept, but I don't feel like they went. It wasn't doing a whole lot. I agree. So they gave everybody armbands. And you know, usually at concerts, it's like they play a song and they turn them on. And they had female and male. So like you go to, you get in line with your gender. So Party Mart kept saying, if you're guys, put your hand in the air. And then you'd put your hand in the air and then they'd turn blue. And then you'd say, girls, put your hand in the air. And the girls would put their hand in the air and then their bracelet would turn pink. And then they kind of sparkled and turned. I mean, it was cool. I just don't know if it was, maybe would have spent some of that money on some of the better speakers. Well, I think with anything, like next year, it'll probably be better. But I do know they kept wanting them back because they literally were announcing it until we got off the ship to return them. And they're like, they're only one use. Like, why do you need them back so bad if they're only one use? Obviously, they're not. Well, I don't know why you'd want to keep them because you can't trigger them. I know. Like the people, yeah. And there probably are people that, you know, kept them because they wanted it for whatever reason. Well, it didn't say bliss or anything. They were generic, yeah. So, I mean, I could kind of see if it had bliss. You want to keep it like a souvenir or something. Yeah, like if there was like a bliss blanket or something. Like, what kind of asshole would take that home? I don't know. I don't know who would do that. So, at some point, on Glow Night, I want to stay out there. I think last year, remember, didn't I want to stay out there? Like 2 a.m. Yeah. So at some point, I had to go to the bathroom. And where the stage was, was right by the buffet. So I was like, we went to the bathroom. I was like, hey, can I go get a piece of pizza? And you're like, really? And I was like, yeah. So I went and was like, I was double fisting pizza. Yeah, you went back out to Glow Night and you had pizzas in your hand. Yeah, I went out to Glow Night dancing with my pizza. We knew when Lacey came out with pizza, she was done. And I kind of was. Honestly, I was. At that point, you know, my pants were soaked. I was kind of like, I felt gross. I mean, I'd taken them off, but I just, everything was wet. I just, it was the music. It was just a lot. I think it's a combination of the, we were out in the sun all day. We had gotten drunk, pretty drunk during the day. And then you come out and then you're trying, you're really trying Trying to keep the energy going for glow night, which it was a good party. The speakers were kind of throwing me off a little bit. We were in there like sardines. Yeah, not bliss's fault. Yeah, everybody was just I like being in there like sardines. That's not a problem. I need to breathe. Yeah, you know, I don't mind it for a minute, but I have to kind of step off and because it was very hard to step off because you couldn't get back in. It was just a lot. I was very overstimulated. It was just too much going on. So at some point we decided to go to the playroom and I I have that we just fucked each other in the playroom and went to bed. We did, yeah. That was one of them. So we did a pretty good job of going to the playroom almost every night. Not every night did we have orgies and stuff. I think you suggested. So I think you were like, I'm done. And I was like, well, you want to go, you know, like, and maybe you said, let's go back in the room and fuck. And I was like, well, can we go to the playroom and fuck? And you were like, yeah, sure, we can do that. Yeah. So I think we ended up in the playroom. And if I remember, I think we ended up this time we were in just a bed with just me and you. Yeah. But next to the pool. Yeah. And it was on the other side. Like not the first night we were. Oh yeah, those people were across from us. Yeah, there were some hot people that we ended up running into like the whole trip. And they were fucking across. And they had a couple of people over there. And then they were cheering us on. We were cheering them on. I actually think I came inside you again on this night as well. Well, I think it's, you know, we always say that it's hard for me to come in the playroom because you're overstimulated. 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No, I was about to say that because I think like if you go to some of these major porn sites and you type in like swinging, you're going to find So if you're thinking about joining the lifestyle and you're like, man, I need to know, I need to see how they're navigating this. Our OnlyFans can be kind of educational if you ask me. I agree. So go over to theswingnation.info, click that blue and white button and go sign up today. Yeah. Check it out. We appreciate you guys. Lacey, one thing I don't leave home without when going to a swinger event is my ED medication. That is correct. Performance anxiety is 100% a real thing. Having sex in an orgy room with 100 people in there is way different than having sex at home in your bedroom. It is. So I like to have what we call a little insurance policy and have some of that ED medication in my pocket. Shameless Care is who I use for that. And they actually just came out with a new product called the Shameless Duo. Yeah. Which is a combination medicine that has Viagra and Cialis in it. So that one, you can be ready when But also, it's got that dose that you can take as you're getting ready to go to the playroom and you need that to kick in. So I love it. I mean, I used Hedo for the first time and that combination. You've kind of pretty much switched to that, haven't you? That's basically what I use all the time now. So if you're looking for ED medication, if you're new to the lifestyle and you're going to an event, you might want to get some and have it just handy in case you need it kind of thing. And the really cool thing about Shameless Care is they don't set you up on a reoccurring. plan. So you're not going to get all of this ED medication that you have in your nightstand built up. When it's time that you need more, you'll get an email from them and they'll ask you, hey, are you ready for another round? And you can respond back. Yes, please refill it or no, I'm good right now. Thank you. So it's really cool because you don't end up with all these extra pills and spend a bunch of money that you're not, you know, you don't need to spend. Yeah. And my favorite part is you don't actually have to go into an office and talk to your family doctor or a you can do it all right online from the privacy of your home you just go to the website you fill out some forms the doctor reviews it approves you disapproves you and you move on from there so if you would like to get some medication you can go to the swing nation dot info click on the little recommended apps and products scroll down to the shameless care icon click on that and that's going to take you over there there's some discount codes there for you so you can get a discount off your first order but But I highly recommend if you're going to some events or parties, go get you some lifestyle insurance. All right, guys. Check it out. All right, guys. Welcome back. Welcome back. Thank you for listening to our sponsors. We love our sponsors. We do. All right. So we left you. We had just fucked in the playroom, just me and you, while watching all of the other hotness. I'll tell you, if you are new to me, I'll tell you if you're new to the lifestyle and you're unsure about swinging and swapping or if you're you know if maybe that if you're not quite ready for that step i would encourage you to go to a playroom if you go to an event a club a party go to a playroom and find a spot just you and your partner because that that is it's almost as fun as an orgy sometimes yeah it is yeah i think especially even seasoned swingers that have been doing i think you should make time to do that i mean and that's just my opinion somebody else could differ. But I think it's important to reconnect with your partner and make it about you two and not just about everybody. Yeah. I think that's important. Especially on a long, you know, it's one thing if you go to a club for a night or two nights, you know, like you basically. It's one thing if you're doing a week. You're going to do all the dirty things with all the people. But yeah, if you're away for a week and you're only just fucking other people. Yeah. It is kind of nice to bring it back to just you and your partner. Yeah. I mean, honestly, somebody asked me this on TikTok Live the other day. They were like, and engaged like when you're like on a bliss cruise or like we we have sex the whole time yeah like we're having sex in our room and i and i don't usually put that in our notes but we're like waking up and having sex and i mean especially you because you're on viagra you're like trying to like all day every day you're trying to fuck all day and i have to like temper you down because like my vagina will can't handle that much sex so we have to like figure it out but we are yeah i think that's something maybe we don't talk about enough is when you're in a sexy environment like that, you're basically turned on the whole week. And so you're fucking, we, we fuck way more on a bliss cruise. We fuck each other way more on something like a bliss cruise than we do at home for sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So day six, uh, we arrived in Antigua, Antigua. Not sure how to say that. I'm not sure either. Um, which was our first time to go there. So excited. Uh, I haven't in the notes that I wasn't feeling great. Again, this is now, This is day six. It's been a lot of days without Lixapro. I was going to ask you that. Do you think the night before the Bliss Cruise, at what point do you think you started noticing the effects of not being on your medication? Probably right here. Around this time? Yeah. Around the Bliss Cruise time. I noticed it a few times, just the way I'd react. If you said something, I would be a little bit more snippy or something like that. I can remember we even joked about it. There was a few times I'd say something, kind of aggressively respond and even like in front of our friends and you'd be like oh i'm sorry yeah the fucking lexapro you know it's like i feel like it's almost like my buffer it makes my like brain slow down enough to like not what numbs you right i mean it's numbing your emotions right so we've talked about that a little bit in this you know we're getting a little bit off subject but you know now that you're you're still off lexapro so this actually in some ways worked out well it did but you know you were on that medication for so long that you you almost had to figure out how to regulate your emotions without it again you know what I mean yeah and this you know like it you're almost like a teenage girl you know I mean like when you first start getting all those hormones and you don't know how to handle them yeah you're kind of like that again is where you're feeling all these emotions and you're just not quite sure how to process them correct so yeah definitely the night before I think we're start I'm starting to feel I'm also like I wasn't really on I wasn't on my testosterone I wasn't on my thyroid so there's also other things that could be affecting me as well. So we slept in. I wasn't feeling great. We did get up and get off the ship. We had lunch and we got off the ship. We didn't have lunch. I'm sorry. We got up and we got off the ship without having lunch. It was actually your idea to go and find lunch off the ship, which I thought was kind of fun. We didn't have an excursion plan. It was just you and I. We weren't hanging out with friends or anything. So it was your idea to go find food. Yeah, I think it was I could tell you maybe you were struggling a little bit. I was like, let's just go have a nice little date, you know, on the island. Just me and you. Yeah. So we ended up finding this like little restaurant in the the food was actually really good. It was like we had shrimp and french fries, which was random, but that's what we had. And it was very good. It took forever. And we sat with this sweet couple. They were Indian. And I ended up seeing her. Did I tell you I saw her? Yeah. I ended up seeing them at the pool the next day, but they were just super precious. And we were able to talk to them. And they were like probably not somebody that we would have been gravitated to. Like if we're dancing, they didn't strike me as like dancing type of people. They're more like piano lounge bar type of people. So it was really nice to like kind of get out of our comfort zone and sit and chat with somebody that was very different than we were in their play styles and the trips that they were going. Yeah, they had amazing stories. They did. I mean, they, you know, all over Europe and have done all these cruises. Yeah. Very well-traveled, I think, well-educated couple. Yeah, it was nice to talk to them. It was very nice. And they had no idea who we were. No. No. And we didn't tell them. Yeah. We just sat and chatted with them, which was lovely. So yeah, it was a nice little lunch. And then we walked around. This is where I got the Excedrin. I was wrong. So we found a- Yesterday and today together. So we found a pharmacy. That was open. That was open. And I did ask them if they had Lexapro and they did not. But I was able to get some Excedrin. Dan needed some deodorant. So we were able to get like a couple of things that we needed. And that was really it. We just kind of, it was pretty simple. We just kind of got off for like maybe an hour or so to walk around and then kind of got back on just to sort of say we did it. Basically. I got a t-shirt. Now, I will say, so some of our other friends, and I think even Serenity did this, they got off the ship and basically would hire like a taxi driver to take them around the island and show them like a few of the touristy spots and then take them to dinner. I like that idea. I think maybe, you know, the next time we do a cruise or something like that and we get off at some place like that, I think that's it. But I'm always scared because everybody there is trying to rip you off. Like when you get off the ship, everybody's begging for money. And I've heard these horror stories But you hire a taxi driver, they drive you across the island, and then they're like, oh, I'll take you back to the ship for $200. So you hear all these crazy stories. But I, you know, the times that I've had experiences, you know, I've been in the military, I've traveled all over the world, been in a lot of countries. You know, when you kind of have like a tour guide like that, that you can kind of connect, I think of like Costa Rica, where we had a tour guide a couple days, you really get to experience, I think, things you wouldn't, you know, like somebody that knows the island. You're getting off of the beaten path. You're getting off of the touristy areas. Antigua was nice. The water there was absolutely beautiful. We had a nice lunch. We paid way too much because it's like being in an airport. You're stuck in that little port. I love the beach and going to places like this. That is one thing that I feel like you miss out on a lot is the actual beach. I kind of wish we had done another beach day. after the day before. See, I would have done a tourist trip. Yeah. And gone and seen, I don't know, whatever there was to see there. Yeah. No, but so, I mean, I get that. Maybe one of each. Right. Two. I think that would have been perfect. If we did the beach day that we did, and then we did a little tourist day this day, I think it would have been. Yeah. Which I know Bliss in April is, they're doing an excursion, like when, like a Bliss sponsor. It's like the, they're having a whole beach party. Yeah. Like a nude beach party. So like that's going to be, Oh, perfect. And they did that the last cruise we were on to, which we missed because we had booked something because we did not. That was something they added last minute. So, I mean, I think no matter which one you choose, there's always going to be something different. Well, the good news about us is, you know, we got three more cruises scheduled next year. I know, I know. We have a lot coming out. We'll probably hit some of these ports again and get to see some of the things we missed. Yeah. So, we got back on the ship and took a nap. Just kind of, this was kind of a, again, it's starting to set in that you've been on a cruise for like six days. And also, you know, I'm, I'm missing medicine and stuff. Uh, so, uh, Dr. Storer had asked us if we would have dinner with her and her husband and some friends that they had met because we learned quickly that Dr. Storer was on a completely different schedule than we were. Yeah. I think she was in bed by nine o'clock most nights and we were just getting out to the party about nine o'clock most nights. She was like an early dinner person. They like playing in playrooms during the day. So it was very different. So it was very apparent that if we were going to have a sit-down meal with them, we had to plan it. And so this was the night. We invited Skye and Mike to come to dinner with us for this night because we had ran into them and we were like, we're going, I think we went to dinner at like six opposed to eight. She was like, I'll go, you know, we'll go too because we haven't, I don't want to, they wanted to go to a show. We wanted to go to a show. So it kind of worked out. The theme night this night was Rock Through the Ages. Yeah, like Rockstar Night. Yeah, it was like Rockstar Night. No, I'm sorry. The show was called Rock Through the Ages. Rock Through the Years, sorry. But the theme was Rockstar. So I did a take on like Madonna, like a virgin, which I had done that at Hedo years ago. So I had a couple of the accessories left, but I had to like, I repurposed some of them and got some new stuff and did that. Somebody asked me if I had gotten, if we got married that day. Somebody. It is kind of a. It is kind of bridey and everybody else had like black and stuff on. But like it was, it was pretty obvious. I was like, no, we didn't get married today. Thank you, though. People do that, though. People do that. You wore like typical Rotsar ripped jeans. Yeah, ripped jeans and an ACDC t-shirt. Yeah, but we had dinner. We did an early dinner, which was nice. Dr. Shower brought. two or three couples, which is always fun, like having dinner with couples that are different and like getting to hear them. One couple was from Australia. Australia, maybe? Yeah, they're from Australia. So it was really neat. The problem is we were at a pretty big table, so I don't feel like we got to really talk much. Yeah, we were kind of towards the end, which was fine. So after that, we decided to hit up one of the shows for the first time all week. Because we have dinner at 8, a lot of times the shows start at 9.30. So that kind of like... Well, let's be honest. We had been to shows on Bliss Cruise previously and I had never been impressed with the shows. And so I think we've kind of had that impression of like, eh, the shows are meh. Now this show... This show was really good. Was really good. Like really good. Yeah, it was very good. It was a... It was the cruise band and then they had brought in a singer. I think he was... He was Irish. Yeah, he was Irish. And he sung rock and roll literally from... He started like in the 60s and went all the way to like current times. And he was very good. And hit some like really... He was singing like Rolling Stones in one song and then like U2 in another song. And so like, I mean, he was all over the place. It was very good. But obviously a very, very skilled singer. Yeah. After that, we met up with a group. We danced. did all of our normal things. And at some point, it was time to go to the playroom. And I was not feeling the playroom this night. But I knew that you wanted to go. And my whole, like, thing this week was, like, YOLO, you know, for lack of a better word. Like, just, like, just go. Just go have fun. It's gonna, you know, you're not gonna regret it. It's gonna be so much fun. So I was like, you know, Because I think I was feeling kind of nauseous. I just think I was just kind of, I was sort of over it, to be honest with you, for lack of a better word. So I was like, well, let's just go and we'll see. You know, I might play, I might not play. We ended up going and I ended up not playing. I think I, me and you did in the beginning. In the very beginning, me and you started together. Yeah. And then I think you just kind of, I think you came a couple times and you were like, okay, I'm done. And I was just like. But you were like, Dan, go. But honestly, I had a blast. I was like an assistant. I would, get the condoms. I would make sure the beds were, I would get towels. I, I felt like I was definitely a part of it. I didn't feel. It wasn't like you sat in the corner pissed off or anything. No, no. I was on the bed, crisscross applesauce with everybody. You were rubbing people's backs. You were doing all kinds of stuff. I just, I wanted to be a part of it. I just wasn't, I don't, I was just, I was just okay just being there and watching everybody. I don't even remember who I was there. I didn't write it down. for most of the day or most of the week. Although the one addition I will mention is Mayor George. Oh, yeah. And his play partner. I forgot. You fucked her. And I think you basically were like, do you want to fuck my husband? Oh, I did. And he was encouraging her, too. Because I think, you know, she's been in the lifestyle for a while, but I don't think like big orgies were really her thing. She had kind of said earlier in the week that she was a little nervous. We ran into her at Hedo. Me and her had made out and done a bunch of stuff at Hedo, but we never fucked. But can I be honest? She did not seem like a newbie in that orgy. She seemed like a pro. She fucks like a porn star. If I'm going to be honest with you, she fucks like a porn star and like a really good porn star. She was a rock star. She was. And dirty girl. And talking dirty. She spit in somebody's mouth at one point. Yeah, and then she was fucking Reno and she was like, you don't even know my name. She was so fucking hot. She was like, you're going to walk out of here and not even know who I am and you fuck me. I was like, it was so hot. She was saying something. She was wild and it was so fun. Honestly, she is really hot. She kind of comes across as not shy, but I don't know, maybe a little timid. But she was not in that playroom. She was like, I was like, where is your OnlyFans? Because I want to subscribe. She's like, I can't do it. And I was like, oh, man. She was saying some things. She was the kind of girl, like a lot of girls, there's a few others that you have to tap out. She's not going to tap out. And it was sort of towards the end when all of that was happening. And so a lot of us were just sitting around watching. Is this the night that Mrs. Reno did Airtight? Yeah, it has to be because this is the last night we went to the platform. Oh, is it? Spoiler alert. Yeah, this is the night, yeah. Yeah, so she did airtime. So the night before on the lawn, which was that the night before? That was two nights before. She did DVP and then after we were kind of all hanging out on the lawn and we were kind of like, you know, it was the group that we'd kind of hung out with all week and somebody had said like, hey, what's on people's fuck it list? Like, let's talk about it right now. That way, throughout the week, we can kind of help people orchestrate, like, what their fantasies are. And so Mrs. Reno was like, well, I would really like to do airtight on this trip. And I was like, fuck, yeah. And so this night, she was like, hey. And her husband's a very good, like, hook her up kind of, you know, he's like, hey. He's a good wingman. He's a good wingman. He was like, hey, let's do airtight. And so she did. And she actually did it reverse. So it was like the guy was laying down. got on top of the guy and like a reverse doggy and then the second guy came up and fucked her pussy like almost like missionary style and then it actually was me and another guy put our dicks in her mouth so she was kind of like airtight but with like two dicks in her mouth yeah so like i don't know what you call it double airtight like i don't know but she was squirting and loving it she is also a rock star and one of those like where she's kind of a little bit reserved yeah she seems i think we talked about it before She seems like this business professional boss lady, CEO kind of type girl. And then you get her naked and she turns into a dirty little slut in the best way. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, that was a very nice play session with lots of, probably one of the kinkier, dirtier little sessions we had for the week. Yeah, and it went on for a while. I don't know. Oh yeah, I think I went and showered and came back and people fucked some more. I mean, we were probably in there for a good hour and a half, two hours. For sure. So that was it. And then we got our snacks. And went to bed. Went to bed. Okay. So we think we can wrap up, Bliss. I think we can finish it. Yeah. So we might go over about like a couple minutes. So just bear with us. Yeah, but it's not worth a whole other episode. No, it's not. Okay. So the next day, this is kind of where shit hits the fan, for lack of a better word. But we had a good day. We slept in. We grabbed lunch. My frisky business is is a group out of the New York, New Jersey area. DJ Frisky, they also do Hedo with us when we go to Hedo in the summer. They're there as well. And so he hosts, they host a pool party and we always try to go and show our support for the, it's a fun, and it's just a good party. I mean, like, we like them. The topless travel pool party and the My Frisky Business pool party are the two parties that we always try to hit. And because it's that group and party marks them, They're always some of the best pool parties on the ship. So, you know, if you're going on a bliss cruise, circle the topless travel one. And if they keep doing it, which I think they will circle the My Frisky Business one, those are the pool parties you definitely want to make it to. Yeah. So we're out at the pool for most of the day. And I failed to mention this earlier in the week. But you know how like when you go on a swinger trip and you come home and you're always sick? That was kind of happening to me, but during the week. Yeah. So probably like Wednesday, this is Thursday. I start feeling like, like not COVID, but like maybe COVID, you know? You know how like you're on a ship with all these people and I'm starting to feel like a little. Right, you're like, is this allergies? Is this, what is, I'm not feeling good. So at some point in the pool, I was like, I just, I felt like I just had to sit down. And I, again, didn't want you to have to like go in and stuff. And so I was like, you know what, I'm going to go find a beach chair or pool chair. and I'm just going to go and like hang out. And so that's what I did. I found a pool chair and I just was able to sit and watch. And this is when I saw that couple that we had had lunch with the day before. And honestly, I loved it because I love laying out. I was like played on my phone, laid out. I had the best time. You were, you know, chatting it up in the pool. And there was some hot, this is when that one hot couple was chatting with us. Remember? They were super hot. They had messages on the app and they were, the wife was very pretty. She was very skinny. She was, I don't know. You may not remember them. I do. But they were standing kind of behind us chatting with us a little. Yeah, I mean, I remember there were several hot couples in the pool. Which exact one you're talking about, I don't recall. Well, and I kind of did a lot of the app talking, so that's probably why you didn't know. But I mean, it was pretty good. And at some point, I think we stayed out there till like 4.30. Yeah, and I guess from my perspective, I thought when you got up and got out of the pool, you were kind of like over it. Like you were just kind of like. I was, but I also didn't feel good. You know, I was like, you know, I was tired. I was just kind of, I just wanted to lay in the sun. I just, you know. We also had needed to get some content in this trip. That's always like a hard thing for us because we want to have fun and we want to party. But we also need to do, like work and we have to have content for only fans and stuff like that so this is the day that we had kind of scheduled that and so we had kind of planned it for like right before we go to dinner we sky and mike were going to come to our room and we had planned out a couple of videos to do with them so i kind of also knew that we had that yeah this afternoon so it was i forgot about that yeah so it was sort of kind of like reserving my energy because at this point i'm feeling kind of crappy yeah like i'm feeling pretty sick So we hung out of the pool to about 4.30 and then we got out and went to the room and kind of just chilled until I had to start getting ready, which was probably not very long. I got completely ready and then they came to the room. So in our room, and so this, again, when people give a shit about content, we were in our room, people. We were having sex. We don't have to go through all that all over again. But it is always a thing where people get upset about content creators at lifestyle events. But I think why do you care that people are having sex in their room and filming it? I don't. And I think people have this misunderstanding that people are doing it in the playrooms and in the public spaces. But that's not true. We did this during the day in our room. And that's the case with every content creator we know that ever goes to a lifestyle party and makes content. Yeah. They do it usually during the day and in their rooms. And just like for the record, then we'll move on. If there's anybody in the background of your video, it could be a shadow. It could be a mirror reflection. They have to be tagged. So there is no somebody's... They have to sign a release form or be tagged. So nobody is fucking in a corner and uploading it to OnlyFans or fucking in a club or whatever. There's just... It cannot happen. It does not happen. It might get uploaded, but OnlyFans is taking it down almost immediately. It's just not... Maybe five years ago when OnlyFans first started and this was all brand new maybe but not not this at this moment so anyway they came to the room we took pictures we made tiktoks we ended up making like three videos yeah we did like me and him and you and then you and him and in sky right yeah and then we all four fucked on the balcony which was i saw like we've already released that video but the background doesn't even look real it looks like we're in front of like a like a green screen like a green screen yeah it doesn't It was kind of like almost at sunset, too. So it was very pretty. Yeah. I was feeling pretty crappy during this to the point where I had to stop a few times. Like I tagged her in and let her go. Yeah. And she was like loving it. She was. I had given her, which I don't suggest sharing your medicine. Do as I do as I say, not as I do. But I had some of the shameless, the women medicine. What was it? We did a whole episode and talked about it. It has Cialis, right? Or Viagra in it. And then it has, what's that other word? Oxytocin? Yeah, oxytocin, yeah. And anyway, she had heard me on the podcast talk about it. And she was like, do you have any of those? And I was like, yeah. And I haven't really taken a whole lot. So I gave her one. She was like, obsessed. She was like, I'm going home and getting a prescription. It really, really worked for her. So she was just like having the best time. Yeah. Which I'm grateful. I think she had taken it the night before too, right? Yeah. She was a little freak in that. We didn't mention her in that. And then the night before sex, but she was going to town. She just wanted to be fucked. She was fucking everybody. Yeah. Yeah. It was hot. So that was it. That was our, and it was pretty quick. We, I think we did all of that like an hour and a half. We were very professional and got all of our stuff done. I enjoy her. She's. She, they are both very good. They're both cool people. Like take lifestyle away. They're just cool people and then they're hot and fun and a good time. Well, that's what that's the type of OnlyFans content that I love making is couples that we are friends with and we connect. We know we have a connection with. We had been fucking them all week. All week. Yeah. So this is like, you know, the sixth time, you know, in the week that we had had sex with them and and but but really the first time just us and them. Yeah. Which, you know, that makes it a little different. It does. Yeah. It was good. I had fun. So, definitely go check those videos out. Yeah. I think we have one releasing this Friday. So, yeah. It'll be tomorrow after you hear that show. So, after that, we were pretty much ready, but we had to change into our BDSM outfits. We made a couple of TikToks and stuff in the hideaway in those outfits, too. You can see some of those. And then we met everybody for dinner. And this night, they separated us into two tables. And we had invited a couple that we had met. And they were, let's call her, they're the beauty pageant couple. Cause she, remember she was a beauty queen. She was a beauty queen in her, in her younger years. Um, but we had been trying to connect with them all week. And so we were like, just come to dinner with us. So I don't, I wasn't, you were logged into the app most of the time. Is that how you met them? They messaged on the app. They messaged on the app. And then I had actually met her in the bathroom at the topless travel party. And she was a little drunk, but she was like, Oh my God, I love you. And I hate all these people that are mean to you. And she was. But she stood out. She had this beautiful curly hair. And she just like really stood out. She also. Then we kept running into them like every night. She had a bag that said ho bag on it. Which a girl after my own heart. I love that bag. And I don't know. We just. Me and her hit it off. I felt like I saw her every night. Yeah. And so they had message. And we had saw them. Okay. So we had saw them the night before after we were leaving the playroom. And they wanted us to go get a drink with them. And we were like, he came. I'm done. We're going to bed. And they were like, okay. I was like, but maybe we'll have dinner or maybe grab a drink tomorrow. So they had messaged us. And I was like, why don't we just grab dinner together? So that's how that happened. So they had dinner with us. It was nice, yeah. And dinner was great. Everybody had their, this night was BDSM. So everybody had their like black outfits on, which I loved. I love a good BDSM night. Yeah, it was good. Dinner was fine. So here starts the issue for me. This is where things start taking a turn. I had two drinks with dinner. Normally, I'll just have a Dr. Pepper or a Coke or whatever with dinner. Maybe one. I don't know why I started drinking pretty heavily, but I did. Do you think you didn't feel good? You knew the medication was starting to catch up with you? Probably. Do you think you were trying to counter that? Probably. Maybe I knew I didn't play the night before. Maybe I just was like trying to like... Be fun or whatever. Yeah, yeah, maybe. And I didn't feel any pressure from you or anybody else. This was like a me, me thing. Well, this is a, you have no Lexapro and you have emotions that you haven't had to feel or deal with in years. Yeah. So we ended up, after dinner, we went and found every, you know, everybody got together and we were all hanging out. And this time it's in... One of the center parts of the ship. Yeah. And it's kind of a random place, to be honest with you. But DJ, the girl, what's her name? Tumbles. Tumbles was DJing. They had all the BDSM crew out there. The dungeon people were out doing vlogging. And then they had, what's that guy's name? Sir Naughty or something like that? He was tying people up. He was tying up Dawn on deck came out in a sexy little fishnet outfit. And she got suspended. I think this is part of where they got so much scrutiny about photos because they actually put a drone up in the air and they were videoing her getting tied up and then there was some camera lots of camera people were out and videoing but it was all the official bliss crews it was not it was not that is not true it was not now was a production team there absolutely but all the BDSM people that were getting spanked everybody was filming everybody and one of one of our friends the group is not a content creator. She is pretty private. And she was like not having it with the cameras, which is funny because people would assume it would be people like us, right? People that are content creators that always have. Our phones never came out, not one time. It was people, normal people, non-content creators. Also, topless travels people were doing it. It wasn't, it was not the people that you think. And people seem to have, this is where. I think this is the night where there's been a lot of scrutiny. about cameras since the Bliss Cruise. And I think this is the night where a lot of that scrutiny. Because I didn't see it. This is the only time I really saw a lot of it. And I think it was people being innocent. Because I don't think anybody meant ill-intentioned. No, I don't think so either. What was happening is somebody's wife was getting spanked by the dungeon people. And so, you know, if you have a hot wife and she's on the floor getting spanked by this dungeon guy, maybe you want that video for your spank bank or whatever. You know, it's probably a once-in-a-lifetime kind of thing. What I've been told is in the dungeon, you know, it was in one of the theater areas. Yeah. And so they were actually letting people take pictures and videos in the dungeon because there was a clean backdrop, right? Yeah, it was a wall behind them. And so maybe it was people were used to in the dungeon taking some pictures. So they thought because this was a similar dungeon thing, they could do it here. But the problem was everybody was standing basically in a circle. Yeah, like the middle. And so all the stuff that was happening was in the middle. So it was almost impossible to get pictures or videos without catching people in the background. Yeah. And up, like a second, like a floor above us that had an opening that you could look down. I think people up there were also filming. So it was just like, it was a lot of cameras. I also was getting like, it was just a lot, to be honest with you. At this point, we had bought a Bliss tumbler. And you were buying two drinks at a time and filling the tumbler up. And I was drinking those drinks. And at some point, I was just kind of done. And I looked at you and said, hey, I'm exhausted. Can we leave at like 1230? And you were like, we're going to the playroom? We're going to the playroom? And I was like, no. At this point, I had been to the playroom like six nights in a row. And even though we had not orgied every night, I was like, I'm not going to the playroom. I'm sick. I've fucked on camera. I have smiled. I've done all the things all day. And I was just kind of done. And I was trying to communicate that to you. And I guess what was your perspective here? Because I think that's important. Well, no, I think it was two things. So I think the group, because now we're entering the end of the trip, right? Yeah. So I think overall the group is like trying to get it in before, you know, we only have really two nights left. It's tonight and the next night. And the next night, everybody knows they close everything early. They close it in May. And then you have to get up early and get off the ship. So I think the general consensus is like, let's, let's tonight have a blowout and be in Then, you know, tomorrow night is going to be kind of chill. Yeah. And so you were saying, hey, not tonight. You know, we'll do it. We'll, you know, tomorrow night. And I was like, well, tomorrow night, we got, you know, it's going to close early. And so, you know, we're not going to have much time and then we're going to get up early. So, you know, and I'm kind of telling you, like, if we're going to do it, like tonight probably is the better night. So then everybody. So you're telling me no. And then so you're telling me no, but you're not telling everybody. Everybody else, no. So then I'm having to go back to everybody else and be like. Because they're coming to you. So all of our friends are coming today and it's like, Lacey's really not going to the playroom. Yeah. So like, I. And they're not being mean. They're just, they're just wanting to fuck. They're just, they're just wanting to, you know, it's like kind of the last real night where you could. Yeah. And so here it is. I'm like now seven days, no Lexapro. I'm like probably six drinks in. Yeah. I'm frustrated because I'm like, you know, like if you listen to our pre-cruise podcast, My goal was to go to the playroom every other night. Now, I've been to the playroom the last six nights. And so I'm like, fuck you. You know, I mean, for lack of a better word. I'm like, I have done all of the things. I've made three OnlyFans videos today. I'm exhausted. I am sick. I am tired. And I am done. And so you're like trying to convince me to go. And I'm looking at you like, I'm trying to like tell you with my eyes that I'm not I'm like, no. And at some point, I just got up and walked away. Because like, you were not, I was like, Dan, I was like doing the eyes, like, look at me in the eyes. I'm not okay. You know, without like making a scene, you know, I'm like trying to tell you, hey, this ain't happened, motherfucker. We're not doing this. You know, you're not hearing me, you know, you're also had been drinking too in your defense. And so at some point, I just got up and walked away. I was like, this is not, I am not in a good headspace. space. This is not going to end well. I'm just going to remove myself from the situation. Which I think probably embarrassed you that I just walked off like that. Yeah, it was, you know, I felt like I was trying to be the go-between between you and the group, right? And I'm trying, you know. And I did not like that. I personally did not like that. I feel like if I say no, that should be the answer. I felt like I had done an exceptional job up until this point. I felt like a little bit of grace would have been nice. But I do also understand that it was the last night and realistically playing the next night was probably not going to happen. Yeah. But what happened after, this is where things really took a very rough turn for us. Yeah. Without going into like all of the details, we got in a huge ass fight. Yeah. In our room. So like if you were our next door neighbor, you probably thought these people are ridiculous. And to be fair, we don't typically do this. I can think of one other time that we had a pretty... Oh, we get in fights. But not public. Not outside of our... Not where... We're usually just bickering. This was like we were screaming. I think I had had way too much to drink. And it didn't even really dawn on me until the next day when I started adding up the amount of drinks that I had had. And then the fact that I was not medic, you know, I was off of my medicine. Um, but we, I'm honestly shocked that security wasn't called, which is kind of embarrassing to admit. But I think, I think it's important to talk about here because we know we're not the only couple that's ever gotten in a fight at a swingers party. Yeah. Like you weren't like breaking stuff or throwing anything. No, no, just, just wildly arguing. Yeah. We were verbally. Yeah. Nothing was broken. No, nothing. We like getting a fist fight or anything. Yeah. No. It was just very loud. Normally, we would be quiet because we don't want to be able to talk about us. We would fight in the car on the way home. I think because I was pretty fucked up, I had no... Zero, gave zero fucks. I gave zero fucks. Well, I think that part of the fight was that I was like, Lacey, this is not... I think it's a few things. It's one, we didn't handle the situation very well. I could have handled it better. You probably could have handled it better. and then the alcohol, those led into something that probably would have not been a big deal. Yeah. Turning into a really, really big deal. Oh, yeah. It just was the fuel to the fire for sure. I mean, that's kind of... And I was trying to tell you that. I was saying, Lacey, I understand. I don't give a fuck. Like, I was just trying to go with the group and I was trying to, you know, I think if we were going to fuck tonight, it would have been the night, but it's okay that we weren't and you just were not... I was not having it. You weren't hearing it. You didn't want to listen to that and you're screaming and I was like, baby, don't please... You know, like, so it was... I just was very disappointed that I felt I had done a really good job and I felt like you didn't appreciate that or see that. That's how I felt in the moment. And I'm like, I had survived this whole trip, you know, and the one night I want to go back to the room, like you couldn't even do that for me. And that was sort of where I was coming from. I should not have yelled and screamed and made the ruckus. I mean, like, it was to the point where I was like, how can I get off this ship? Like, I mean, I was not okay. We were in our room for probably, so the next day happened. We would like kind of start getting back on the right track and then something would happen. I mean, I basically cried for like 15 hours. You were just not okay. I was just not okay. I think we got in a fight and that didn't help, but I definitely think there was some kind of And then you were like, can we at least go have dinner? And I was like, okay, fine. Because we really hadn't had much food or we hadn't even left the room much. So I ended up getting ready. And if you want to see what I look like after I've been crying for 24 hours, there's actually a picture. If you go to our Instagram, I have the black and white striped. Well, and this shows you how. The theme was like cops and robbers. So it's like I was the robber or the bad guy. So this kind of shows you how the social media is fake, right? Because we had posted a picture every single day of all your outfits and your themes. I was like, if we don't post a picture of this night, like people are going to like, it's going to be weird. Which then fucking pissed me off because I was like, you don't even care about me. All you care about is social media and getting that picture. That day in the room, we probably fought about everything that we've ever fought about in the last 10 years all over again and re-negotiated all of those things. All of them. We were quitting the whole thing. We were getting divorced. We were moving to Virginia. We were all of the things. Every fight we'd ever had in the last 10 years, we had in that moment. And again, I think one is we're both stubborn and hardheaded. But two, I believe legitimately you were going through some type of withdrawals from the medication. Oh, I was. I mean, though, you could look at me and I would cry. And that's not my normal behavior. So we ended up going, getting, I got dressed. You can, obviously, if you go and look at that picture, you can tell I'm not okay. If you compare that picture to another night, yeah, I'm not okay. But I took the fucking picture. You look good, too. And we went and had dinner, just the two of us, which is the first time the whole, and honestly, we had a lovely dinner. We weren't fighting. We just enjoyed each other. Well, I think getting out of that room and just. Getting some air. Yeah, getting some air, you know, being in a place where, you know, in public where we can't be. can't be hateful towards each other. And I think it just kind of helped reset things. And then we went ahead. And so after dinner, we had gotten the time wrong. Times changed throughout the night. And so we thought it was later than it was. So we ended up having like two hours until the show, which worked out good. Because we came back and we completely packed our entire room, which was nice because it was trashed. I'm not going to. I had thrown every piece of clothing. I had on the night before. And every different. My earrings were in one corner. Shoes in the other. So we packed. And then we went to the show. Okay, so let's talk. This is like a side note. But the show this night was weird. Do you remember the show? Yeah, it was burlesque. It was a comedy burlesque show. Comedy burlesque, yeah. Now the burlesque part of the show was awesome. The dancers were beautiful. Costumes were amazing. The comedian was weird. He even a few times made some comments that I thought were a little inappropriate for the audience and swingers and stuff. And then one of the burlesque dancers was farting. Yes. That was part of her thing. I get it's comedy. But it wasn't even funny. It wasn't even that funny. Yeah. And she was a beautiful girl. Oh, my God. So sexy. But it was just. The whole thing was her farting. She was farting the whole time. And it was just very weird. It was very weird. So the first two girls were good. That first girl was beautiful. And she danced to all this nice music. And then the second girl I thought was great. I think, was it the second one that was singing and dancing? Yeah. And she was amazing. But yeah, then this fart girl comes out and was weird. And in between it, the comedian would come out in between them. And he was always. He was just a little awkward. And then the guy comes out and he had a male burlesque dancer, which that's cool. He was hot. But he was dressed as a Muppet character. Yeah. And like the blue with the, I don't even know. It had a dick. It had a blue hairy dick. Yeah. That was very weird. It was very weird. I mean, and honestly, like when we were walking out, I think I made a comment and the lady in front of me was like, kind of acted like she loved it. So maybe it was our. Maybe we just didn't get it. Maybe we didn't get it. Maybe we're not show people. I don't know. But I thought it was a little weird. We're not seasoned enough. We're not artistic enough. Maybe it went over our head. But the farting and the hairy dick guy, Muppet burlesque character really threw me off. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it was odd. And then after that, I wanted, because of course our friends and stuff had texted us to see if I was okay. Throughout the day, and we're checking on us and stuff. And I wanted to go and tell everybody bye. They were at the Sky Lounge. And of course, as soon as I saw them, I started crying again. Because that's just what I was doing at that point. People did because the Sky Lounge was packed. But we went in there and just hugged everybody who could buy. And Lacey is bawling the whole time. You would think her dog died or something. You were very emotional. I was very emotional. Why do you think? I think I had opened the floodgates. I think I had kind of held everything in. and the withdrawal symptoms and everything for as long as I could. For the week, yeah. Yeah, because truthfully, I was like that until I was able to get home. Because I didn't want to cope. At that point, I had decided I was not going to go back on legs. I had been trying to get off of it for, honestly, six months solid working with a doctor. But truthfully, for years. And had failed a couple of times. And so that was the longest I had ever been without. So at some point, because the hospital was never able to get it for me, and we weren't able to find it, at some point, I had made the decision that I wasn't going to go back on it. I had a doctor's appointment for that Wednesday. So this is Friday. We get off the ship Saturday. So I'm like, if I could just get home, I have a doctor's appointment Wednesday. I'll talk to my doctor. We'll figure it out. And I had Xanax at home. And honestly, once we got home, and I took a Xanax, and just being in my home, in my and my bed and my things, I was able to settle down and be okay. So, but yeah, I cried the whole drive home from Florida. 14 hours. 14 hours. We fought the whole way home too, for the most part. Not as bad as the first night. No, that first night I think was alcohol induced. But once the alcohol and everything was like out of my system and stuff, we definitely had our moments of. Well, and this is, you know, going back to the, you've been trying to get off Lexapro for, for years. Well, every time you tried to get off, of it, this was kind of what happened is you would become very unreasonable about things and we'd end up getting in fights. And so that's why when you said you left your Alexa pro in the room, I was like, let's jump off the ship and swim ashore. Like this, we do not like, cause I was picturing a week of this. Right. And I was like, I don't want to be on the ship if, if we're going to, you know, if this is going to be the type of experience that we have. So I will say you did do an amazing job. And I think that's why I was so frustrated because I also knew I had done an amazing job. And so that night, when I just didn't want to go to the playroom and you weren't taking no for an answer, I was like, I felt like I was in a twilight zone. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? It wasn't that I wasn't trying to take no for an answer. I think that I was trying to reason. I was trying to be like, hey, it just makes more sense. Because you weren't telling me no. You were saying, hey, not tonight. Tomorrow night, let's have our, you know, you were kind of, I think you were down, you know, you weren't being like direct and being like, hey, I just don't feel like it. Let's not go. You were just like, oh, I don't know. How about not tonight? How about we do it tomorrow? And I was like, well, tomorrow doesn't really fucking make sense. Yeah, but I think if we could take anything from this, and this is kind of part of what we thought about, is you should always play down to the one who is not as forthcoming as the other. So, like, if one of the couples says, I don't want to go to the playroom, that should be it. I don't think there should be negotiation. I don't think there should be convincing, especially not in front of people. If you want to walk off and have, like, a grown-up conversation about, the pros and cons of what you want to do. That's one thing. But we were openly having this discussion with all of our friends. And I feel like that was unfair to me. And I think that's where we struggle. And I agree with what you're saying. I think you should downplay to the lowest person and all those kind of things. But I also know you and know sometimes you need a little encouragement. Correct. But I had also been to the playroom every single night. I guess that's the struggle. Where's that line between not, you know, like downplaying? Because I don't think it's, it's not one person dictates everything you do always because they, you know, because, you know, so there is, there is a give and take there somewhere. But I think that where is that line is I think where we struggle. Not in front of people would be our first mistake. And two, I think it should have been taken into account that I had been every night and that I had been without medicine and that I was probably a little too tipsy at that moment. Even though I could consent. There wasn't a consent issue. But there was just too many other factors. And I felt like... And I still, to this day, and I don't want to fight with you again, but I still feel like you should have been... Yeah. You should have had a little bit more compassion. Well, you're basically saying I didn't read the room enough. And that's probably true. I was caught up in the... You were horned up. Everything that was going on. You were horned up. You were ready to fuck. Yeah. And I was communicating to you. Well, I was drinking. You know, I was... probably thinking this is probably the last chance we're going to get to have a nice good orgy and i'm thinking motherfucker you've been fucking a week you know fuck you i've done a good job like come on now you know and that was my perspective so you know this will not be the last time that we have this issue because this is a thing for us yeah well i think it's a thing for a lot of people i think and i think i do think where is the i still don't know quite where that line is between encouragement slash but not pressuring somebody too much. I agree. It could have easily gone the other way. Had you been like, you know what? You're right. It is the last night. Let's go do it. And we could have walked out of it and been like, fuck, that was the best night ever. Correct. You know what I mean? So it's like, well, where, when do you, you know, not do that? When do you do it? Well, I think we should have stepped away. Yeah. We, I should not. Well, the truth is, you were not in a state of mind. We would never have had a constructive, conversation. But you might have would have realized it had we stepped away and you could have actually seen that I probably wasn't okay. Yeah I think that's true. I don't think I realized your state of mind at that point. Yeah until it was too late. Yeah until it was too late. And honestly you know we might get some criticism for like telling this story because people have been listening to the podcast and been criticizing basically everything we do lately. But the truth is we could not tell you this. We could say Thursday was we just went back to the room. Oh Lacey got sick. She had a tummy ache. She got a bug. She ate some bad food. We could tell you that. And then like not own up to this. But that would not make the podcast true and authentic. We are not perfect swingers. We fuck up all the time. And we're going to fuck up more in the future. I'm going to get too drunk. He's, you know, he's going to be an asshole and only think with his dick. I mean, that's just like part of it. And if anybody tells you that the lifestyle is perfect and people don't have these issues, you're being misled. because it's not perfect. And sometimes we fuck up. And sometimes, you know, we have to work through these things. Right. And we don't have all the answers. You can probably clearly tell by us still trying to argue about this. Yeah. We're still figuring it out. So we obviously do not have the answers. But I will say, when we do have podcasts like this, and we are open about the issues that we do have, you know, when you're open about some of your mental health stuff, or, you know, I don't know, the military stuff, whatever the case may be, that's the episodes that I think people connect with the most. And I think that encourages me to continue to be open and share the truth. The people that come to us and are like, oh my God, thank you so much for being honest and saying that. They speak much louder to me than the one or two haters that use their platform. Like, oh my God, you guys should just get divorced and you clearly shouldn't be swingers. We're going to get some of those, I'm sure. Oh well. All right. And then that wrapped up Bliss Cruise. We got up the next day, got off the ship, drove 14 hours. was home, cried and fought the whole way. Once Lacey got home, got to her doctor. If you're curious, I was able to get my medicine from the embassy. They were so sweet. They held it. It was very, very hard not to take that Lexapro when we got it. Once we got home, I was fine not taking it. I did go to the doctor that Wednesday. They put me on a new medication, a newer version that doesn't have near the side effects that Lexapro has as far as libido and weight gain. and stuff like that. And so far, so good. I've been on it for about two, maybe three weeks. We've been having lots of sex. We've been having a lot of sex. We've been pretty lovey. Something's working. We've been loving each other. It's been good. It's been a good couple weeks since then. Yeah. I think we kind of knew that that was going to be a rough patch, but it was almost like we're in this. We got to just get through it. Yeah. Well, I think we've tried to rip that band-aid off a half a dozen times now. And we were sort of forced. And we were like, fuck it. We got forced into it. There's no point in If you went back on it, it would be like, well, that was all for nothing. Yeah. And that was kind of why we did. I was like, we didn't go through all of this for nothing. And then shout out to all my friends on the cruise that were so wonderful and checked on me. That's a good point. Because I think what's nice about this is that you can have friends like that. They can see you be a complete and know that you're a complete total shit show. And they still love you. And they still want to hang out with you. They still want to party with you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Red Flag that night. We're all human. Everyone's going to have their nights like that. It's not all going to be perfect. If they tell you it is, they're lying to you. All right. Well, that wraps up. Bliss Crew, stay tuned. We've got some more exciting episodes coming up. We just talked to somebody who everybody knows in the lifestyle. That podcast is going to be coming up. We're getting ready to go to Trapeze in Atlanta. We're getting ready to go to the New Year's party. at Open Instinct in Atlanta. So just really check that stuff out. If you go to swingercity.net, if you want to come to Trapeze with us, we'll be there December 13th. And we'll be at the Open Instinct's New Year's party. You can find tickets to all of that swingercity.net. Not to Trapeze. Well, you got to go to Trapeze's website. They only sell tickets at the door, I guess. Yeah, Trapeze, you have to buy tickets. You can find all the information for the event at swingercity.net. Correct. All right. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? I think that's it. All right, guys. I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple. Pineapple Guys. Bye. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. Make sure you head on over to to theswingnation.net and keep up to date on all things Swing Nation. We thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you next time. Goodbye. That's so hot.