Introducing Swinger Hotwife Life Perspectives

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Welcome to the Pineapple Pinup, the Hot Wife Life Podcast. On today's podcast, I am talking to Drew and Hopeful, who are joining me for a new podcast that we're launching, and just kind of give you an overview of what it is that we're going to be doing. Yay! Okay, joining me today on the Pineapple Pinup is a couple of my friends, Drew and Hopeful. Hopeful is originally, Hopeful is from Cuck My Life podcast, and he and Drew are joining me for a new podcast, Cuck a Bull and a Hot Wife Walk into a Bar.

We're not totally 100% decided on that name, I don't think, but it's been working so generally speaking you can find me in a bar clink clink of the glasses man anyway let's go so um just to kind of give you a rundown of what it is we're trying to accomplish with this new podcast it's trying to give you three different perspectives on issues on things Thank you. accomplish with this new podcast. It's trying to give you three different perspectives on issues, on things. So let's get some perspectives, guys. Okay, Drew, tell us about your role as a bull in the hot wife, in the lifestyle space.

Yeah, it's just to be an ethical third, uh, you know, to come in and, you know, uh, an already good thing, you know, and have fun of course, but, you know, um, but really, you know, you're, you're a guest in a primary relationship. And so it's about respect it's about ethics it's about um meeting people and finding out what their needs and wants and desires are and if you're a good match and making some magic out to you yeah joining yeah joining that's awesome okay so hopeful. Give us a little rundown on you. Sure. I am a cuck. I am married to the perfect woman, in my opinion.

And me and three of my very dear friends, we have been doing Cuck My Life for a couple of years now. We just wrapped up season number three. And that's how you and I met Teresa. Absolutely. Mutual podcast interest. And we began talking.

And the more we talked, the more we realized that there was a nice rapport here absolutely we could have conversations about these topics that would help other people i think so absolutely that's that's the goal of what we're trying to do here right is same as the goal for my show same as the goal for your show help people better understand the lifestyle put things in a sex positive position so that nobody's vilifying quote-unquote the lifestyle just because you're seeing yeah me too oh it has been it has been a hot wife week for me love the picture you going on your date how'd it go oh which one no i'm sorry no uh yesterday i had a date and then friday i had a date and the weekend before i had a date and i had a party um i am living it to the fucking fullest right now and a little sore i bet I bet.

Oh, honey. That's not the way. I'm not new. I'm not new. I don't, like, there occasionally I do get aches and pains when it's like I have to hold one position for too long. And then it's like, oh, I'm stiff. Because I am also not new in the fact that all of my shit creaks now. So whatever. But he. Drew wouldn't understand. He's still a baby. I know. No, I'm starting to get that. I'm starting to get that. Like when I wake up in the morning. Well, I've been sick for the last few days. So like when I wake up, I got that kind of old man. Yeah. This is going to stand up somewhere.

Sound like my dad or one of my uncles that that hinging thing that you do okay so the part oh my god so i went to a party down south and it was fucking phenomenal and i played with like three new guys that i've never played with before and it was just really fucking exciting to go and be with this new crop of people and then you know that whole thing that i talk about history versus mystery sure history came over on sunday and holy fuck that was some primal fucking like energy it was like it was so hot and it was so crazy and it was so many positions and I was just like okay bend me bend me gumby bend me but yeah no it was fucking insanity it would like it was probably one of the hottest sessions i've had in a very long time and i need to get into it with you guys on the other show so we're putting a pin in that one okay sure sure i'm not gonna lie like the rest of the listeners i kind of want to hear more like maybe if they tune in to what we're doing they'll they'll get to hear the rest of that story yes well see i need your perspective on that story they're gonna get that they're gonna get the story and then get your perspective on the story.

So it's, it's like, this is just enhancing things all the more. So anyway, this podcast that we're doing, I really think that it's important to hear the voices of more than one person. And for me, unfortunately, I'm the only person talking when I'm on my podcast. And, um, I feel like the, what we're trying to do with, um, cuck, bull, hot wife is add perspective because it's one thing for me to tell you what I'm going through as a hot wife, but it's another thing to hear what a cuck is going through and what a bull is going through.

And yes, poor drew talks to us about his fails in the last style. Poor guy. Bastard. Poor guy. Let's just let them listen to the episode. Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. Seriously. It must be so tragic. Anyway, but you have to listen to that episode because, uh, yeah, very tragic. That's what we're going to title that episode. Um, the title of that episode is actually fails and, um, you're all going to be able to hear.

I thought it was going to be thought it was gonna be fuck you drew but that's that's okay no that's the description of the show that's the new year's eve that's the new year's eve yeah yeah that's it oh that reminds me i am bringing equipment so oh okay what we'll we'll chat about what the f sorry that was really loud in my ears what happened oh i got a i got a an alert that we're supposed to be recording soon i hope we make it i hope so too um but yeah so in lifestyle stuff, there are three different positions that are usually held and every position has its own wide variety of things, but, um, we're talking about hot wife centric, more cuck and hot wife than we are talking about like swapping.

We're not talking about, we're not talking about full swaps the swingers have their own podcasts exactly they've got some really great ones yeah and if you want to swing then there's plenty of resources out there for you what we're talking about is hot wife and how hot wife experiences affect us all fucking differently when i'm going through something where I'm not sure how my husband feels about it, but he's telling me he feels fucking awesome about it.

I, it takes me a second to fucking understand what it is that he's seeing it, the lens he's seeing it through, which is the reason why I think having three different perspectives, like, and even my bull, he's got some thoughts, I'm sure, that he would love to, like, so that's why I try to, I'm really excited about this podcast is because of the fact that it does give all three perspectives. It gives the perspective of what the husband is doing and what the bull is doing and how we're all trying to come at this same thing from three very, very different points of view. Any thoughts? I agree.

With one goal, right? We all have the same finished product in mind on some level. True. Right? Her satisfaction. Yeah, we look at it a little bit differently, right? We all have the same finished product in mind on some level. True. Right. So we look at it, we look at it a little bit differently. Right. And we have, we have different perspectives, but in the end, we're all trying to get to the same place. Absolutely. And the route that we're all trying to take is a little bit different because my, my husband's role in my hot wifing is an ever evolving situation, is an ever evolving.

And because of that, it helps me to get the perspective of other cucks who have, um, who have been there, have evolved themselves. And it also helps me to know what the bull is going through because when a bull is going through some like you never want a bull to feel like a toy but at the same time you want him to feel like a toy you want him to feel like an additive you don't want him to feel like he's trying to become part of your relationship unless that's what you're trying, like, unless that's your goal, but that's not my goal. My goal is my relationship.

And then having a perspective of how to properly treat a bull, how to properly approach a bull, how to have that respect for you as a person, I think is very important because a lot of times when you're in this relationship and it is very centric around this relationship and then you just keep tossing little people in, it's important to say, wait a second, how are you feeling about this?

well if you want to be part of this lifestyle you have to treat everybody in it as a valuable person absolutely right this is this is a it's a it's a triad it's a it's a and you know sometimes more than that but realistically there are three different roles and no one's going to tell you how to play your role absolutely play your role the way you play your role but there are certain ways that we need to treat each other and that is respectfully absolutely regardless of what else is cool absolutely and sometimes i think that the bull is this mythical creature this this person who's just sort of slotted into a lot of the conversations that are being had between husbands and wives, especially on podcasts.

We're slotting them in. And if you go to a bull podcast, a lot of times what you're hearing is the salacious stories of who he's fucking. And it's, it's all about the salaciousness of it what i want from our podcast especially is to get your point of view drew to get your what it is that this lifestyle is bringing to you because i i feel like you're kind of the odd man out sometimes.

Yeah, I mean, it can be because I think the role is, you know, so the actual role itself is so covered up in a lot of what you learn online through social media and what you see in content and all that other stuff that i don't think it's really clearly defined for people you know especially in how to do it as an ethical way and also how to be how to just be a good human being you know it doesn't mean that you have to you know suppress your humanity suppress who you are to play this role it's a part of what you are it is you know suppress your humanity suppress who you are to play this role it's a part of what you are it is um an appendage of your personality for lack of a better term um hey i like all your appendages we're both thinking of the same appendage though right like yeah we are right i'm sorry i'm i'm in on the whole i'm in on the whole drew though come on i'm in on the whole thing right right but after you get to know that you want a particular one yeah no i get that but that's kind of i think something that is mistakenly not really talked very much about in these conversations that people are having around the hot life, hot wife lifestyle.

We're talking about how to keep our relationships together and how to keep our husbands and wives, you know, together. And then occasionally we talk about having a bull as a boyfriend. And occasionally we talk about opening it up to like a poly and all this other stuff. But having the relationship where you are, for lack of better words, an additive, it seems valuable to get the perspective of how you, as somebody who is not embroiled in the emotional trappings of everyday life with these people, how you like survive it.

How do you emotionally approach how you deal, how you connect, you know, all that stuff. Yeah. The relationship of it, you know, exactly because it is a relationship, but it's not a day in day out. Who's going to do the laundry. Let's fight about the water bill. You're not in the minutia. Exactly. But it's a relationship of a source. Exactly. But it's still an intimacy that doesn't necessarily get airtime. because i don't think that i don't think that saying this is a man who I spend a lot of intimate time with is not a part of my life because he is.

it's defining exactly what that relationship is and what it looks like what the general way is and what it could look like an individual way like you know how to have those conversations about what it's going to look like individually, because I think there's a general definition for the role, but then all of these roles, you have to make them work for you. You have to make your own definitions for exactly how this is going to fit you and your lifestyle.

So that's why I think this podcast is going to be so important because it's providing a conversation that's not happening and a resource that's not currently in existence in our corner of the lifestyle absolutely um hopeful t does t have a like i know she's not super playing right now, but when she did, was it, did she have a bull or did she have, like me, a roster? She spread around a little bit. And realistically, she would have preferred to have had one person that she liked that she could spend time with, because that's kind of her relationship style anyway.

But it's hard to find that one person in driving distance that you like, that you get along with, that you want to share your time with. so she she was never able to find that before we took our little break on, on any real level. We're hoping to get back to play in the next few months. Excellent. I hope so. Cause that's, I mean, having a roster myself, there are ones that I obviously spend more time with than others and I have a more intimate relationship with than I do with others. But that doesn't, I don't think that diminishes.

It's kind of like I have multiple partners and my husband and my relationship is still extraordinarily intimate. It's still extraordinarily he and I. So the fact that I'm getting closer with at least one, if not a couple of my bulls, is to me super interesting. You're not developing that connection you're so afraid of, are you? A little bit. Not going to lie. Not going to lie. There is one particular bull who's been on my podcast a couple of different times who is taking a lot of leaps and bounds with me, taking a lot of steps with me.

And mind you, he is in a relationship, I am in a relationship, but the fact that I trust him on the level that I do is emotionally terrifying territory for me. Emotionally terrifying. So is this more poly? No, it's not poly. I mean, I like it's, it's not, I don't think it's going to get to that level, but he and I like my husband said it kind of succinctly. He said, he's somebody that would miss you if you died. And you can't always say that about people you've met in the lifestyle.

They might notice, but it's not like they would miss you, but he, he's, my husband was very much like he would miss you. He would be sad at your funeral kind of thing. Well, that's nice. I mean, other than thinking about your funeral, I know, but it's nice to, it's is nice to put people in that emotional category where people, where they would think about. Thank you. I know, but it's nice to, it's, it's nice to put people in that emotional category where people, where they would think about you in that capacity beyond, you know?

So for me, the fact that I'm in this emotionally new territory is kind of, um, it's kind of extraordinarily interesting, which is one of the reasons why I kind of actually blame it on you two. Because of all of the conversations that we have had, all the conversations that we have said about, you know, yeah, it could be a little terrifying, but at the same time, it's okay to have that emotional bond. And it's actually worked out really fucking well to have him be someone that is evolving with us and be able to trust him.

So the word you're looking for, the word you're looking for is not fault, but thank you. Well, all right. Well, I mean, I guess if you, if you have to hear it correctly, thank you. Boys and their need for constant reassurance. Oh, we're needy boys. Did you hear that? Needy. Needy boys. Very, very needy. Very, very needy. so but yeah no i'm super um excited about the fact that this conversation is the kind of conversation that I really enjoy having with you guys. I don't know that I've laughed more doing a podcast than I have with the two of you.

So I like the fact that it is fun and funny and interesting, but at the same time, kind of informative. I agree. One thousand percent. Well, that's the goal, right?

I mean, all of us have set out on a journey to try and educate people about what this lifestyle looks like and not to tell them how to do it, because it's none of our business how you do it right right what happens in your bedroom is yours yeah but to have conversations around the lifestyle because no matter how different we do it as individuals as separate couples as separate individuals we all do it kind of the same way right like we could draw parallels for anybody whether you're a stag or a cuck or a vixen or a hot wife or a cuckoldress, whatever.

In the end, what you're developing or what you're trying to develop, in my opinion, is a more intimate relationship with your partner that has more interesting and better sex. That's the goal.

And however you define yourself that's a reasonable goal for all of us i think absolutely yeah and what we're trying to do here is have conversations that allow other people to see that what they think is weird about themselves Isn't that weird because we're all isn't that weird like and also give everybody a vocabulary something that a jargon that we can all look to and say this means this and have it mean something because the one thing that you're never going to have is con like you're never going to have understanding if you don't have commonality of language.

And so giving people that commonality, drew, I do have a real quick question for you. What is, what is your desired relationship status? That's a good question. Something I've been thinking on real heavily here lately. You could be an interviewer with these questions, man. I think it would be something that was poly and open.

And ideally that partner was in the lifestyle with me as well um and then so one of the things that i want to explore more is that i do have a lot of cut tendencies myself and so i would like to explore that with a partner um so you know being able to explore that and then And also, you know, do the bull stuff occasionally. That would be kind of cool. Yeah. Okay. So something poly and open. Okay. So play separately or full swap? I'm open to both. Okay. Yeah.

I find it super interesting how bulls are in the lifestyle because the one thing that everybody's afraid of that their bull is going to couple up it's one thing that every fucking hot wife is afraid of that all of a sudden her bull is going to find somebody and go full vanilla on her it's happened to me No, I get that. And it's a real fear.

For me, a relationship with going to be outside of it right so vanilla like vanilla doesn't do anything for me so whatever relationship i end up in it's gonna have to be somebody who's in the lifestyle as well, who enjoys it, or is open to the idea of exploring it at least. Okay. And then going from there. That's awesome. Well, one of the best places to meet somebody apparently is in the lifestyle.

So that's actually my my bull who's kind of uh partnering up he actually met somebody from at a lifestyle party party she was uh she was coming as a unicorn and uh unicorn bulls so on paper it works not always in real life yeah no it depends on who you are Thank you. on paper it works not always in real life yeah no it depends on who you are as a it depends on who you are as a bull um territorial bulls yes um they don't tend to first of all they don't tend to make it with me and they don't tend to make it in the lifestyle too long from what I can tell.

Because I've had a couple I've had a couple bulls try to piss around me especially at parties and I'm like dude, I'm going home with that guy over there. No matter what you fucking do here I'm going home with that guy over there and that guy is going to pay my mortgage and he is going to Thank you. No matter what you fucking do here, I'm going home with that guy over there. And that guy is going to pay my mortgage and he is going to have my kids over for Christmas. These are not things you're going to do. So stop pissing around me.

And if you want a relationship, go find a fucking relationship. Yeah, 1000%. And for me, like, I'm not territorial at all.

You know, so that's why one thousand percent um and for me like i'm not territorial at all you know so that's why i think um poly relationship will work really well for me but you know those guys that get into this and get territorial it's like what the hell are you thinking it just kind of really goes against the grain of what we're doing here absolutely because if we were if you were trying to like you're dating on the wrong app well what in the world would make anybody think that you won't be exclusive with your husband but you're looking to be exclusive with somebody else like you put a fucking ring on it yeah like like come on guys like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna sleep with you exclusively if i don't sleep with him exclusively and what's really funny to me is for some reason um those territorial bulls don't have a problem with me sleeping with my husband because in their mind he's not a threat and i'm like honey he's your only threat i mean like he's he's my person like that's it that's that's where this goes and full stop you know i fuck you i love him exactly you have a relationship with my vagina the rest of me probably not you got to be comfortable with being a third unless a lot of these guys aren't they don't understand that concept right and it takes they want to be number one it does take some real um emotional understanding to be that third to be somebody who's like yeah i'm just i'm coming in for the day yeah and letting go ego too hell yeah because a lot of a lot of bulls are ego oh yeah yeah and so you have to squash that to be successful you do but you kind of have to squash a lot of that to be successful like you can't be drinking your own kool-aid all the time oh yeah that's i think that's the big one when uh when you're handing out your own swag you might not be a little gift bag on the way out yeah Get ready ready for that at splash i hear that happens yeah i'm so excited hats lanyards because like you're gonna be at you're gonna you're gonna be at the gym with like a lanyard you know yeah you know i suck at this dick yeah yeah like Thanksgiving and people are and people are like, who's Drew Marston?

No. I'm thinking about bringing a white t-shirt and a Sharpie and just have everybody who fucks me sign it. Now that's swag. That's real swag.

There's a whole bunch of them who would be thrilled to be asked for an autograph I'll tell you that This is my splash jersey I'm signing mine like John Hancock So just so you know I'm really excited to see you though I'm really excited to like go i'm really excited to see you too yeah because my highlight yeah yeah seriously like meeting people it is it's like we're seriously less than a month away exactly four weeks away oops but yeah no but this weekend weekend I'm actually going to a different kink thing and I'm really fucking excited about it because it's like all these educational things and everything.

And I don't know, like people tell me, like I've actually put a post on the, because every single one of these, um, events, they have like their own app that you can communicate with other people going to the event and on theirs like i'm literally out there like is this a fuck thing like are we going to fuck or are we just going to classes because if we're just going to classes i may want to skip well at least pack differently exactly exactly everything's going to be a naughty school girl if all I'm doing is classwork but yeah no I'm I'm but then people reassured me people took the time to reach out and say oh yeah no we fuck we fuck like bunnies because I've been to a couple of events where it was a kink event and they didn't have the same relationship to, you know, penetration that I enjoy in my parties.

Well, there are certain subsections of the BDSM community where penetration is not the end goal. Right. I don't personally get it. But orgasms are. Yeah. Not always. Yeah, I know. And that's part of, like, if I'm going to do something in the sexual realm, if I'm going to do something in kink, if I'm going to do something and I, I'm leaving there with orgasms. Well, you're pretty easy to make orgasm from what I understand. Like, it doesn't seem like it's that hard. Yeah, I'm not a hard sell.

And those people who play with orgasm denial, I'm like, I don't even know how you'd start with me I've been watching some videos for educational purposes Teresa's videos? yeah taking some notes you know but yeah no I'm really like it's not hard to convince me it probably was when he was watching the videos. Oh, yeah, well. That part. That's the goal. That's the goal. That's the whole reason why the videos are out there. Enjoy. But yeah, no. And I do. I do.

There's just some new ones that were posted from Black Friday that, yes, I'm encouraging anyone who's listening to this to go and watch it will change your view of black friday just saying okay all right seriously on the down low though just between the three of us let's don't put it on the podcast then yeah just between the three of us nobody else's nobody listen to this part. Go then. Yeah, just between the three of us. Nobody listened to this part. Go mute. Everybody else could fast forward 15 seconds. We'd appreciate it. He's doing this thing with his feet. In the videos.

And I did not understand it. His feet are going like this. On the bed. Oh, I have to go back and watch that. I didn't see that. I don't know if my husband put it up, if'm honest but it was like i was like weird no i will go back and watch was it the way you were bouncing on him maybe maybe but like it was just it was one of those things where i think he was getting leverage and the way that he was leveraging was bringing his feet up in the air.

And it was just like, okay, not, not bad, not a bad thing, but just one of those things that you're like, I don't know if I should put this out into the world because I don't know how, how somebody else is going to feel about it you know well because it felt did he tell you it was okay um he was mostly just like don't show my face okay and if you notice in all of those videos there's no face so there you go i feel like you're i'll go back and watch yeah you didn't take those kind of notes i wasn't yeah i wasn't really looking at his face yeah but yeah um five minutes to realize there was a dude in the movie to be honest with you it was like 10 but you know who's counting yeah my but it's really i'm super excited about the fact that my husband is so jazzed about what's, how our relationship is evolving.

And I'm, cause there's a lot going on right now, but I actually need to get into it with you guys on an episode, but I am really excited about the fact that so much of my time is devoted to being a hot wife and having a lot of orgasms and making terrible messes on my bed. Very excited about it. As you should be. Thanks.

But it was really funny because that was one of the things that actually came up in one of the sessions is that um my husband was there and so was my bowl and he and they're both like yeah we're here to spoil you and i went oh exactly what i've always wanted my whole entire life just be spoiled i love that but it's how'd it go that's oh it went it went really really well i mean there was cleanup involved but it went so well well that's actually like cleanup oh yeah absolutely absolutely but that's one of the things that i am very excited about with the podcast that we're doing is the fact that I tell you this salacious story Drew's got a takeaway that's different than your takeaway Drew's got a takeaway that's about well the bull was probably really satisfied because he did a really good job and the cuck was probably super satisfied because there was a lot of fucking cleanup it's the takeaways the fact that everybody's perspective is heard and understood and meanwhile i'm just laying there on the bed like fan of myself because that was fun i get i get that i get that and that's i think that's the brilliance of you know what we're doing here is that you get those perspectives and you get them in one space as opposed to trying to go different spots piece it together and all different kinds of conversations not to say that those conversations that are had off podcasts aren't great because they are they're often very fantastic, but a spot where people can come and listen to those three perspectives at once is just going to be phenomenal.

And I can't wait for everyone to hear what we recorded and what we're going to record. It just keeps getting better and better. Absolutely. And I think our report has really, really developed.

the more we get to know each other and the more we start thinking about the other person's perspective, it's really starting to create an intimacy between the three of us that allows us to talk about hard conversations and allows us to still be fun and connected you know so I'm all in I'm super grateful for all of this but I do need to wrap this one up so that you know I can get it out this week but I am so grateful that you guys decided to join me because I think that this is a good intro and we are going to be dropping, what day did we decide? Wednesdays? I think that's the best day.

Yeah, we're going to be dropping on Wednesdays. I'm going to drop like three episodes next Wednesday. The introduction and like two others. And then they'll be coming in weekly after that. That'll be December 9th. Wednesday the 9th. Wednesday the 9th. The 9th of December. Works for me. Yes. Do you remember? Works great. Oh, yeah. No, I'm going to schedule them. I'm going to schedule them. I'm really good at this. I suck so bad. You guys are so lucky. I've seen the videos.

I thought you good no that was what i that was literally what i was just thinking oh my god there was this like i was going through a crisis a life crisis where i was like i can't deep throat anymore oh my god so proud of me so proud of me i got, oh, to the left. Yeah, I was going to say it. It looks like that's over. Well, there comes a point in your life when you're old like me and where you realize that that was a skill that you really dedicated a lot of energy to. And then when it kind of goes away for a second, you're like, do I have the energy to devote to that again? Turns out I do.

Well, you got to be passionate about the things you love, you know? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. All right, boys, thank you for joining me. And I will talk to you again very, very soon. Awesome. Thank you so much for joining me today on the pineapple pinup the hot wife life podcast