Friends in Kink

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Welcome to the Pineapple Pinup, the Hot Wife Life Podcast. On today's episode, I'm going to tell you a story, and then I'm going to give you a surprise. My friend Scoot came over to have a conversation. We're going to see how that goes. Today, I'd like to tell you a story about my friend jeff uh we met at a party well actually no we met at my quote-unquote i don't know if it was my first again this comes down to fog of memory um we met at a gangbang he and and I hit it off. We were meeting up at parties and one day I decided that I wanted to meet up with him one-on-one.

So we rented a hotel room halfway between he and I, and we met up at this really nice hotel room but it was spacious it was a king bed with a desk and then like a living room and that's gonna become a factor trust me so he shows up and we hang out and we're talking and I love Jeff. He is awesome people. He is so sweet and so kind and so earnest. We were talking and then, you know, because what we're there for, we strip down and we Okay. He was blowing my mind. He was giving me all the really, really like good orgasms.

And he has this way of sending me to this point where my G spot is so engaged that every time he moves, it's like floodwaters just keep coming. He is actually responsible for the five-minute orgasm. He actually started that particular trend. And I think I told you all about that. So he is very, very good. And he and I are really, we have a lot of fun together. So he likes to giggle. But the problem we were having that particular day is that it is such a spacious room. We got there within minutes of each other and the air conditioner had not had time to fully kick on to cool the actual room.

We were expecting to be there for several hours and, you know, have a good time, maybe order some food, maybe hydrate. But that room became so incredibly stiflingly hot. It became so oppressive with the heat that he and I were just like, okay, listen, we're going to have to tap. and i still feel bad about this to this day he didn't get to come and i actually really enjoy that part i love it when everybody who attends gets their cookie for me it's like having a party, but one person doesn't get dessert. It's not quite fair.

And believe me, there were, my husband recorded it and we had many, many people who got to finish and Jeff didn't. And that always feels so wrong to me. It's happened to me a couple of times where in a one-on-one situation that like just something happens and we all have to tap out and not everybody got to finish because there's still the expectation. I don't know what it's like to be a guy in that situation. Seriously, you are doing your best to prolong everything and giving this woman as much pleasure as she can possibly stand, and then you don't get to finish.

I don't, I mean, I understand that from a female perspective where things get started and end very quickly. It's happened to me a lot of times where I'm sitting there. Okay. Kind of confused, But that is, I think, very, very different than the male experience. Because the male experience is, I'm imagining, the longer you go, the more pride, the more self-fulfillment you actually get from the endeavor. I don't know if coming is actually the goal for you in those situations. And that's something that I'd love to explore more.

Can you guys reach out to me and let me know what is it in those situations that you're actually going for? Is the orgasm important? What's the, what is it that you're getting out of a situation where she gets all kinds of pleasure and you kind of go home half hard? I mean, that's just my inquiry. I don't actually know that he went home half hard. I don't know what happened, but I'd love to know. I'd love to know if you don't get to, if you don't get to come.

And believe me, there's a lot of guys at parties that I don't know if they ever come because their whole goal is to maintain stamina for as long as they can. And I'm not sure how many multi-comers are out there. So this is something I'd love to know more about. Anyway, hit me up, let me know, and maybe I'll read your email or message on, on the air.

okay so this is my friend scoot i've spoken to about her before in the past and we're gonna have a conversation and see what if it will be salvageable hello listeners okay so scoot and i actually met good lord hello listeners okay so scoot and i actually met good lord 2015. was it 2015? yeah yeah it was summer of 2015. was it 14. it might have been summer of 2014. anyway we've known each other for a very long time She and I have been on similar and Diametrically different kink journeys. Yes throughout our friendship So why don't you tell us a little bit about how you got started in kink?

Gosh, I'm trying to remember. Um, I think it started by actually looking online for forums or, uh, websites that catered specifically to, you know, a different style of dating, if you will. Yes, I get you. And that's how I came across FetLife. Okay. And was like, well, let's see what this is about. Mm-hmm. And dear Lord.

I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that, but it offered a lot of opportunities to explore things and an education and, you know, a very quick learning curve and a lot of experiences you know both good and bad that's true very and so that's kind of how I dipped my toe if you will she was a toe dipper yellow the pond of kink all you listeners are probably very aware of her water references. So mine is a kink pond. And I met somebody on there who actually introduced me to Pineapple here. The one that's been up. And it's been a shit show ever since. Ever since.

okay so what was the first kink that really caught your attention which rabbit hole did you run down first oh actually now that I think about it was Pornhub and then hopped over to FetLife but was um edging like femdom edging uh that really i was like what is this magic oh because it was certainly magic and it was just amazing to see men uh basically simping all over themselves and uh being super needy and all of those wonderful things and vocal about it so that has always been one of the trademarks of the kink that you enjoy is the emotional connection and the need the need yes need is a very good one um because i think we can all admit that a lot of times men mask their true emotions or feelings, or they don't want to necessarily have you read desire right on their face until maybe right before they're inside you.

But, uh, this one just allowed a sense of power play and control and, you know, just seeing the desire that I was able to inflict and participate in with, uh, a male partner was very heady. Yes. Yes. So you were, that was one of the things that was very different about us in the beginning was I was very sub and you were very dom yes and that played out in a lot of fun and interesting ways and conversations that we had that were kind of amazing. Yes. It was nice to have the conversations that we needed to have that we don't normally have an opportunity to have. Exactly.

Because there's always that veil of this is the civilized world and this is not civilized conversation right you'll talk sex with your girlfriends it's usually like oh my man he just does this or you know i just don't really feel like doing it and all he does is come in and grab my boob and i'm supposed to be ready you know crap like that that you have with your girlfriends or your maybe even your sisters where you talk about your spouses or your boyfriends or you know your partners but even in that circle at the time mm-hmm kink wasn't really right discussed it wasn't I do think it's changed quite a bit absolutely absolutely having the conversation is a lot easier now than it was even 10 years ago.

Yes. So that puts us. What do you think that is? I have a feeling that between the media changing, Fifty Shades of Grey came out and everything got a little bit more.

We we should be talking and then the mental health aspect of everything started coming in and mental health is kind of important in kink you think it's i mean don't get me wrong i work i do a lot of trauma like work through my kink I always have it's it's been the thing I think that kept me sane right but um now I think that we're allowing people to be a little bit more themselves a little bit more authentic and we're not judging people as harshly. I agree. Your, your phrase of, you know, we, we're not yucking so many yums anymore. Exactly.

I kind of think a lot of it has to do with TikTok because it's very embraced on there. Uh, like, you know, just book talk with your spicy kinky books and then there's kink talk and then there's you know there's people who are talking openly about the whole daddy little kind of play and dynamic as well as you know I want to say mommy son because that's kind of weird that's weird to me it's not maybe I'm not I don't want to say mommy son because that's kind of weird to me. It's not maybe, I don't want to yuck anybody's yum. That one's not as prevalent in the open forums. Correct.

Though you will see it. It's more of just that, I think they call it mommy and something else, but really it's just a woman who is caring but yet in charge. And the male really that enjoys that really, really enjoys that. So I've seen a lot more of it represented. Also on like Netflix and stuff, like just more mainstream movies or made forTV movies. And more documentaries. Yes. More documentaries about... The education of it. And getting just wiser about the effect that repressing sex has. So...

I wonder, too, I'm curious as to, like, with the talk around consent being forefront so much more nowadays, you know, with the Me Too movement and all of those things, is that the more we talk about consent, the more we talk about what it is that you need consent for, which opens the door to talk more freely about your sexual predilections.

exactly and when you have to have a when you have to have a conversation where you're collecting your consent the door to talk more freely about your sexual predilections exactly and when you have to have a when you have to have a conversation where you're collecting your consent where you're collecting your yeses like a bouquet of roses you need to i like tulips so does every man This is not that one out of the park. Okay.

man okay so when you're collecting your consent it's really important to every for everybody to have a shared vocabulary yes and that's part of what's actually coming to the forefront is a shared vocabulary knowing what we're talking about when we say things like daddy little and master sub and master slave and dom sub all of these are different categories of what would have been considered the exact same thing not too terribly long ago right so the nuances are we're trying to get yeah we're trying to get deeper into the conversation to explain better what it is that we're looking for and i think that places like fetlife becoming much more popular and play and giving us a forum in which we can have the conversations this is the difference between this.

And having, I'm not going to brag, but podcasts like this one, I think are really moving the needle towards... Hashtag humble brag. Hashtag weird flex. Lord, we're old. That's why we keep saying... Hashtag. so basically we're old that's why we keep hashtag so basically where were we um so i do think that the conversation is moving in the right direction today's question is how do you feel about playing with married people? Well, my first thought is that I like to play with basically anyone who comes along.

But our particular relationship is built on the trust factor my husband and I we have to have a lot of trust in one another and therefore we don't do anything that's secret so if we're playing with a married couple all the parties have to be aware of it. It can't be an Ashley Madison situation. My husband and I are very, very strict about the fact that we do not play with solo male married men without knowing the wife is on board. It is one of the tenants of what we do. Now, people have often asked me, what does that entail when it comes to the parties? That's a not vetted situation.

That's not something where I engaged this person, we set up a date, that kind of a thing. That person, it's sort of an don't ask, don't tell situation. If they are married, I'm assuming that they got permission to leave and go do something. But then again, that's not something I'm going to be able to control. When it comes to the play that my husband and I engage in and spend more time doing, we like to know that our partners are fully available or their wives are fully on board. We don't have that same, we try to keep our side of the street clean.

We try to keep our karma clean because what we are trying to avoid by being in this lifestyle is cheating on one another. So we are grasping at this moral boundary to keep us from feeling like we are engaging in activity that we're trying to keep ourselves from crossing a line.

And we can't really expect to keep ourselves drama free if we are adding to someone else's drama i have been attacked for playing with people and it was false identification whatever but i have been attacked for playing with people who they assumed were married and to my knowledge they were not but i can also be lied to but my stance still comes from I don't want to play with married people I ask people if they're married before we play if they're lying to me that's something that I know that it's going to happen occasionally but karmically I'm trying to keep the street the street swept i'm trying to keep it tidy by avoiding drama in that capacity so my husband and i are really adamant that we play with honesty and with all parties' permission.

Thank you so much for joining me on today's podcast. I really hope you enjoyed listening to my conversation with Scoot. I really hope you enjoyed the whole podcast. If you have any questions, comments, or just want to give me a topic, please feel free to hit me up at pineapple pinup pod at gmail.com. That's pineapple pinup pod at gmail.com. I look forward to hearing from you.