Krazy Truth about Swinging #341 Recreational Drugs in the Lifestyle

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Speaker1: Hey, kids. The program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey, you crazy motherfuckers. Welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth About Swinging. I'm Colin, the host with most. I'm here with the lovely, lovely and perfect baker of zucchini bread. all of our lives, the lovely, lovely Miss Amanda. You are so full of shit. No. Hey. I'm complimenting accordingly because I didn't give enough compliments. And no, no matter what you hear on any other podcast, I did not say I was pissed because she didn't use fucking butter in it. It had nothing to do with butter, just not in it. Oils in it. Oil. I'm sorry, oil. A full cup of oil. I did not bitch. I was thrilled with it. I am thrilled about the zucchini because the only way I like zucchini is in zucchini bread. I'm thrilled about having zucchini bread. I'm thrilled to just be here. 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But also, it's quick, it's easy, it's cost-effective. Safety, it's all, we joke around, but it's everybody's responsibility. Get your stay. Check out the show notes to visit all of our sponsors. And please, please, check out our sponsors. It means the world to us. We're actually fortunate. We had one of our vendors and folks from KWN came out and experienced the first KSN. They had a great time. They had a great time. Definitely, they're already planning to come back next year. They're going to be at Crazy Winter Nights again, and they're coming back to crazy summer nights next year also. They had a great time. Thoroughly enjoyed meeting everybody and just being part of the group. So that's always a lot of fun. We love supporting our folks like that whenever possible, just for all the people that support us. Okay, so obviously this summer... He's having... We think he's having a... No, I'm kidding. He's not having a... But we've been teasing him because he hasn't been able to get words out today. But we just got done with Crazy Summer Nights. So this is this whole sobriety thing. It's obviously apparently mixing the two because I was not sober on Saturday night. But anyways, Crazy Summer Nights, great time. But our topic today is going to be about Crazy Summer. Not about Crazy Summer Nights, but about something that's going on that's a huge thing in the lifestyle now. The Recap Version, here it is. You ready? Set, go. It was a blast. It was the ninth annual one. Everybody had a good time. People had fun. People danced. People interacted. There were people that overcame huge fears and took giant steps forward. Cole sang karaoke. All the way across the, I sang karaoke twice. I guess I was dragged up there to sing once. I sang twice. One time it sounded good, one time, eh, probably not so much. Well, they hit a song I couldn't even fucking hit the pitch on to save my life. But it was a good time. And here's the other thing is, Crazy Summer Nights 2026 is our 10th Crazy Summer Nights. And so it is already up. It's out there. We're maxing at 220 people. A third of the camper spots are already sold. We opened that up for sales two days ago. Oh, and get this. One of the gals that was very anxious about going to her first one last weekend has already signed up. Yep, signed up. So she was terrified to go. She joined in on the naked walk with me. Walked with me. Topless even. Topless, yes. Topless. And already signed up to come back. So it was an awesome event. And here's the thing. You need to come and experience it. It's unlike anything else. It's a nationwide event. There's 220 spots max. Except for the rain. Some of us have fun in the rain. Right. And yes, we did actually. I'm not going to talk much about it because I get accused of only talking about sex since that's my job. So during the workout, since I work 27 hours a day, I talk about sex a lot because it's my job. So there were activities happened. I got a new pair of overalls, which is really all I care about in the whole situation. They worked well in the rain. Anyways. Did you wear them that day? Yes, I had them on. Remember because they were wet and we didn't want to. That's right. They were wet. Right. So anyways, but they're awesome. Yay, Mad Nights. So, okay, so anyways, what we are going to talk about, because this is a very real situation that's going on in Lifestyle, and it's something that we had, it's a challenge. So, Crazy Summer Nights, for example, is in Missouri. In the state of Missouri, weed is legal. It's obviously a lot of people, a lot of places, there's different drug laws currently about what is legal and what's not. Some states have medical marijuana. Some states have just certain gummies. Some states have different types of mushrooms. The reason we're going to talk about this tonight is because as event coordinators, this represents a huge motherfucking challenge in our world. Huge challenge. And I'll explain why in just a second. As a participant in the lifestyle, this also represents a huge challenge, a whole new area that you have to, that we have to go through and people have to start to become aware of because it's going to affect a lot of different areas of events, including their safety, what they do and don't do, et cetera. So it's... It's coming up just in society in general. And it's just something you have to be worried about. More and more. And as event planners have taken a lot of pride in making our events, working very hard to constantly make our events safe for, against things like being roofied and things like that. And basically alcohol-related safety has been our primary focus because that was the primary thing. There's a whole new horizon out here in front of us. I'm going to start off by saying this. Because I'm going to set the tone for this in a way that I think needs to be set. Because it's not being set right now. As a 53-year-old male that in college absolutely had a blast. I smoked weed. Not regularly. I was a huge drinker in college. I can drink now like nothing. A huge drinker in college. I was one that I tried. If someone said, hey, try this, I would put it, eat it, smoke it, drink it, and then ask what it was going to do. I had been in college exactly a week before the first time. I took so much speed I couldn't see straight. I dropped acid for the first time before Christmas break and liked it. I had done coke at least twice before the end of my freshman year. You name it, I tried it, I did it. His parents accused him of being on drugs? Silly fuckers, how'd they know? And I was party all the way hardcore. With that being said, I realized that that was 18, 19, 20-year-old Cole. This is now 53-year-old Cole. And the challenge in the lifestyle is there's a whole lot of people that are, the lifestyle is an avenue for reliving your youth. And it's fun. It's exciting. And for a lot of people, maybe they never fucked anybody else besides their spouse. Maybe they didn't date. They didn't party. They didn't whatever. Or they had kids. They had whatever that eliminated that. So the lifestyle becomes a way to relive that. And that's awesome. And that's great. And that's fun. The challenge with that is you have old people trying to do things like they're in their 20s. And the reality with that is, it don't fucking work that way. And so in turn, what you have now is, this is this new bizarre area of people doing and trying things that they have no idea how they react. If Amanda were to drop acid right now, she has zero idea, even vaguely in the least, what that would feel like, what that would look like, how her body would process it. because she's 54 years old. She never has dropped acid before. She's never done shrooms. She's never whatever. And there's a lot of people like that. And in turn, yeah, all she did was fuck. And in turn, and in turn. No, I tried weed. It just didn't work. Well, and in turn, there's a whole lot of other things that go with these things. And it's not that it's all bad. We're not, this is not like you should just do nothing, be straight and narrow. We just think it's something that has to be talked about a little bit. a little bit. I mean, we've had one, it was a couple of crazy summer nights ago. One guy was explaining that he just discovered gummies and it really enhanced his orgasms. And I believe it for some people, it probably does. Me, it wouldn't. But that's just me. The way weed works for you, it would probably dry you out. It would probably, it would probably make you like mega not want to have sex. I don't know, they put me in a freaking panic attack. Sure did. That was awesome. We can tell that story another time. It was great. At an actual convention, just saying. The thing with it is, is the challenge is, as we are, here's the, that we talk about all the time about important topics like consent and, and being able to give consent And also, we talk about being able to know when someone is capable of giving consent. And one of the biggest challenges with what we're facing with this, in theory, and this is a generalized statement, keep that in mind. It's a generalized statement. It's a lot of times a lot easier to tell with most people when they're so inebriated with booze that they can't give consent. It's very hard if you have somebody slurring, slobbering, stumbling all over the place to go, oh, I thought she was able to agree to fuck me. No. And obviously with a lot of different other substances out there, you can get to that point or some people can get to that point as well. But it's also very much, again, generalized statement. No lawsuits, please. Generalized statement. most people can have some alcohol and still be able, legitimately, have the ability to give consent. Right? Obviously, if you know somebody's been drinking, you should keep that in mind, blah, the whole thing. But most people, if they have a drink, they can still give consent, whatever. So when you're old people like us and you go in this world where, okay, I had a drink and I can still give consent. But you do it instead in a gummy. Right? Well, I know to drink and get me drunk, I know from Saturday night, I can do 19 shots and I can still walk and function completely. I'm a giggly mess on 19 shots. I know that you don't do... He can convince you that he's not. Not on 19 shots. But I know that you don't do 19 gummies to get to the same thing, even in my limited knowledge. And then there's other factors in this. And I'm just kind of showing our ignorance, I guess, to begin with. But it's there are gummies that you buy at dispensaries and things you buy at the store, which are different regulations and strengths and whatever. Then there's making your shit at home, which there's people talking about making your shit at home that has, like, it's one gummy, but it's the equivalent of 75 and will kick your ass, you know, type thing. It's like not telling somebody, hey, do you want a gummy bear? And they've never had a gummy before. And then you don't tell them that it was soaked in alcohol, right? So, you know, people, there's just a lot more variables. The cool thing with lifestyle, the lifestyle people tend to be very much very cool about, hey, do you want to partake? And for the most, and again, in our experience with our group, we've always been very fortunate. And again, I'm going to say most people are very open-ons about, hey, do you want to partake in a gummy? want to partake in shrooms and tell you what it is. I mean, we have this not... Anybody who sneaks shit in anybody, fuck you, then you should die, okay? And you should be killed for doing that. But the people that are nice and go, hey, do you want to partake in this? No peer pressure. Nobody being a dick, just being polite. The challenge is when Cole was in his 40s and going through a midlife crisis trying to still feel young, my response to that would have been I've been. Fuck yeah. And instead of, well, just take one, I've been, I don't need just fucking one. And I've been like, like M&Ms. Ask me how I know. I've seen me do it. Amanda's watched me run through my boss's screen door at their home. That was after drinking Southern Comfort. Imagine that. Yeah, I was just saying. And a whole bottle. Anywho, so this is a new challenge. And it's like, how do we deal with? Thing is, is I am. Naive, blind. Whatever you may call it, I can't tell. Okay. Sometimes. There's some people I can tell when they're baked. There was somebody just over here yesterday I can pretty much tell. You know who you are, you're listening. Really. When they're really baked. Right. When they just do it just so, ooh, this is my gummy for the day. I can't tell it, except they're a little more challenged. than usual. But there's some people I can have a conversation. And Cole will go, they were baked. And I'm like, they were? But that person, you also are really, really good friends with. Yes. So I know. You see her. I left sex out of it, but thanks a lot. She is listening. She don't care. You, if someone like that, you see them at all, you see them at all different, you see them when they just had a You see them when, you know, they're completely straight. You know them. So at that point in time, yeah, that's pretty easy. It's a little bit more obvious. But there are some people I have no earthly idea. The challenge becomes when you look at something like an event is that most of us don't have, that we have some people like that that we have that type of relationship with. But the bulk of the people we don't. Let's face it. Part of the fun at crazy summer nights, and there's people listening right now that were there, and they fuck someone they never met or just met or knew. That's part of the fun of going to an event, right? But the challenge becomes every single person there are people that believe in consent and want to do the right thing, are good people, right? There wasn't a single person there that would be like, you know, You go, well, they're kind of shady. No. And so that becomes a huge challenge because no one wants to find out the next day that the person they fucked had no clue. Yeah. And no one wants to find out Then all of a sudden it makes you start to question, what did they really want to sex with? Mm-hmm. Did, what was it? You know, is it, are you now going to doubt anybody you have sex with is going to remember that they actually had sex with you? As a guy, oh my God, did I overstep a line? No. Did I do something? And here becomes a challenge. So it's a couple. Great news. We all know that Cole slows down his drinking because Cole has a tendency to tongue fuck. Any girl within a fucking 10 mile radius. Right? But it's a couple. Both of the couple is twisted. Right? And I'm twisted. There's a chance that could happen. Or maybe I'm not. But I can't tell. So the person, the husband, doesn't, yeah, no, yeah, whatever's cool. You know? Yeah, whatever's cool. And then actually you find out neither one of them can remember. What do you do? How do you know you didn't overstep a line? And that becomes a very scary situation. Plus, here's the other scary situation with it. As a couple, I think back to us when we were doing all the rules we had, right? And you're learning, you're figuring out what not to do, what to do and not to do. And I understand taking the edge off. And I understand I'm not, you know, some, get off my yard, you fucking idiot. kids type guy so I understand not everybody wants a shot maybe somebody will have a fucking joint whatever get it but how does that work for rules if we're both so fucked up when some of our rules ever got broken we're both fucking twisted we're both drunk as fuck didn't happen very often most times it's me being drunk I was gonna say both of us there were times there were there's been a few times yes so how does that work because I'm not used to sit there and go, if you're so fucked up, you can't remember. And I'm so fucked up, I can't remember. Reminds me of when we were at that party and someone got out the jack fire in the ballroom. And we're just downing through the bottle and passing it around. And the next morning, well, I remember us walking back to the room. And then I don't remember much for a while that I remember some playing happened. But we went back to, we went to breakfast the next morning and we were trying to remember. And we weren't the only ones. We were trying, both of, all the couples, at least two of the couples were sitting there trying to piece together the night because we couldn't remember it. And mind you, either it could have been roofied, but it's also four of us went through a bottle of Jack Daniels. There's a miss. So this becomes a challenge. And I want to tell about one other thing I know that happened. And this is the other challenge. This is not just a bitch said. We're going to get to some questions about this in a second. So at one point in time, there are people in every group, our group with no exception, that they don't drink. They don't do drugs. Whatever. Rock on. And again, I'm going to say 99% of the time, everybody's very cool and respectful of that, especially in our group. We take a lot of pride in that. But other people were fucked up and asked him, would you like a shot? They said, no, thank you. Well, do you want a gummy? No, I don't do that. No, thank you. But they didn't stop. But they didn't stop. And their question was, well, then what do you do? And I love the answer. The answer was dead on for what a lifestyle thing is. We fuck. Yes. And the reason I bring that up is because when you have people that have insecurities, nobody likes to do things alone because that increases So that becomes the next thing is, oh my god, are we... This couple, they're not newbies and they're not weak. They're a strong couple. They're just fine in who they are. If you got a weak couple, oh well, you know, I can remember when in Rome. Remember when you didn't know if you told somebody no? We've had sex with people. We wouldn't touch with a 10-foot fucking pole because we were new and didn't know you could say no. and still have sex again with other people. How many would go, well, I can see us looking at each other going, well, everybody's doing it, I guess. And not knowing. How many times did that happen? Larry's a good thing. My fear would be waking up just to find out, oh, by the way, I have an STD. No shit. And that's exactly, these are the challenges. So the question that I pose, how How do you address it? No, I'm glad, to a degree, blanket statement, that they felt that some of them felt safe enough in that environment to do something like that. Yes. And kudos. Try whatever the fuck you want. I mean, if I wasn't afraid something negative was going to happen, I would try it, but... I'm not letting you try shrooms unless I have a complete goddamn control situation. Because I'm the one who's going to pay for that motherfucker. So, nope. But I'm not judging anybody for trying it. Because you know what? You're locked into an area. Have at it. Have fun. Yes. But how are some of us clueless people, me included, know that you're doing this? Or that you can't remember certain things? Or wondering if you will remember these things? It makes you kind of back up and go, whoa. And I want to agree also with that statement of yes. It means a lot that people, that it's an event, that people know and trust the other people there. Obviously, trust us as event planners. Trust the venue that this is a safe place. And I want to go a step further and say, Kudos there are people that were being very open and willing to share and also being completely transparent. Hey, this is what it is. And hey, not letting, not leaving people through their own devices. I want to say that too. And, and there's a lot of people that have always been cool and willing to share. And we've always had people that were, when I was like, well, how about no, you know, they didn't let people go to their own devices, but it does become a challenge of how, of, How do you keep it safe? Especially when you have a situation. It is 100%. Not a single person. I saw a post for a party out. No illegal hard drugs. Look, no one is bringing out fucking coke. No one is doing fentanyl. No one's got the fucking needle out and shooting some heroin. This is all legal drugs. It's just, you know, how do you keep it safe? How do you protect yourself? How do you protect other people? How do you, I also understand, maybe you want to try it so if it goes badly, you can just go sleep it off the rest of the weekend. I get that as well. And that becomes the challenge. How do we take and appease all of that but still maintain the core values that you have to have in the lifestyle? You know, you don't want to be, The Buzzkill. You don't want to be, but you don't want to be like, no rule, blah, can't see it, you know? I mean, shit, we've been at an event, it wasn't our event, where a guy took too many Viagra, and then his heart started going to massive palpitations, there happened to be another nurse there that checked him and said, oh, it'll wear off. I checked the nurse afterwards, too, to make chase you. It was awesome. But it's just those things of, you know, You know, you experiment, you try, you try too much, shit happens. And I get it, but I don't know. I guess I'm terrified of going the other direction of it. Brian puts, maybe try them with a sober friend. Absolutely. And this becomes a thing of, do you, as an event coordinator, do you acknowledge, or just events, are you going to put on a house party? Hey, this is stuff that goes on, and do you establish an area or a, You know, we always have jokingly said out at the Pines, because weed is legal and it's not in Nebraska, but it is there. We have a weed czar. It's not legal in Iowa. Iowa is just medicinal, so they have to go to Missouri. We have a weed czar, right? And it's someone that's experienced and understanding. And we say it's a joke, but it's kind of not a joke. The same thing. Do you do that? I mean, like at Crazy Winter Nights, we have nurses that are not, and you can't have nurses there partying. It's got to be a nurse. It's got to be a nurse that's there just for that. Do you have something set up for that? And the reality is most events aren't going to spend the money. We don't mind spending the money for a nurse like Crazy Water Nights. We don't mind spending it because that's just we consider our responsibility. But do you have someone set up so that an area for people if they want to try that kind of stuff? That really becomes it. As you weigh through the options, you know, everybody makes fun of me saying I'm the king of the waivers. And it's another waiver form that part of the waiver. And we're not trying to be a buzzkill either because we want you to have fun and do whatever you want to do. Look, I would absolutely, I would love next year at KSN if I wasn't always doing things and I'm such a control freak at my own event. A control freak? I would love to go when we go out the night early, you know, go out the night early before the event starts. and fucking do shrimps. Fuck, I would love to drop acid again. But it'd be the night early when it's like fucking, you know, because I couldn't handle it during the event. You saw me when I took a gummy two years ago before the naked watch. Oh, I was angry. Yeah. It's not that I was angry. No. Yes, you were. Yes. I was pissed off. Yes. I was pissed off that you left me to flounder to do all this stuff. No. You were pissed off. No. You were pissed off because of the effect the gummy had. You were okay with me taking a gummy because I had permission to take it first. But because we had never done that, we didn't know what it would do to me. And after the naked walk was over, sweet. But the gummy effect was still there. But then I was trying to get ready for a melee, and you were just... Yeah, so the part you were pissed about was the part where then I needed a nap afterwards. And that right there is the challenge. We were on the same page. I think a safe area would be nice for those who want to experiment. Okay. And you know what? I don't think every event is an appropriate place for that. Right. But some events, like crazy summer nights, is a different ballgame. But that example of us with that is the perfect example. We talked about it before I did the game, and you were 100%. We both were okay. with gummies or how it would affect, well, it's... Because it hit way... It was still going way later. It hit later, yeah. And booze hits different. And we made the mistake of thinking of it or treating it like booze. And we learned afterwards, well, There are things you can do to help, like speed up that, get it out of your system. But we didn't know that. And that's the part that I think is one of the challenges that people have to understand. Is that, you know, with booze, they always talk about how you can sober up. All of a sudden, shit starts going south. And now I'm sober. You're not really sober, but for that brief moment. People have to understand. And it's drugs. And every type of drugs have different effects on different people. How much you take, how much you've eaten, heat, weight. I mean, there's a million things I'm not adopting. But you have to understand to approach it differently. If you've never done it, you can't approach it the same way as alcohol because it's not alcohol. It's different. Mary put an area that others would not that are not interested to avoid in terms of having a safe area. Excellent. Megan, one of us always stays more sober, whether it's alcohol or other things. We also stay with our safe people. Absolutely. And that's really the other, I think, to me, a big part of the whole thing is, which lifestyle people are not always the best at this, is self-accountability. Like, you're still an adult. And you still have to act like one. And, you know, if you get in a car that you've never driven before and it's a Lamborghini and it can go 200 miles an hour, you've never driven a car 200 miles an hour. I wouldn't try that. Just because it goes there doesn't mean the first thing you should do is open that motherfucker up. because you're not... You don't know how. Right? And everybody goes, well, Doug Hall. Well... Not everybody knows that. This is kind of the same thing. A couple years ago, I experimented with a trusted friend. She was hyper-happy and horny. I ended up totally stoned and useless the rest of the night. And... I understand. And that's just it. He acts differently. So, here's a question I have for people. Do you think, do you think that, I think I want to word this. So, you know, there's a new trend in lifestyle parties and stuff, and it's like, you put on different colored bracelets for different things. Like, green, I just want to say hi. Blue, you know, I'm horny. Red's like, fuck me! Fuck me now! Okay? Which, I'll be perfectly honest. I get all the colors screwed up. To me, I hate it. I think that's the dumbest in the world. Well, it's not dumb if you can remember it. It's like we went to one party, and everybody had a different color cup, and I had to keep going back to the station to figure out what cup meant what, and then by the end, I really didn't care. Yeah, here's the thing. If I had to carry around a cheat sheet to fucking figure it out, then that's absolutely stupid. No. And I'm relatively intelligent, and that's without me drinking. So with me drinking, if you think I'm I'm going to figure out what the colors are, the fucking rainbow. You've lost your mind. Okay. So recreational drugs are the new norm this day and age, not just in the lifestyle, but in society. People may be more likely to try it for the first time at an event, just need to proceed with caution, communicate with friends so they know what you're doing. You know, my thing is, I don't want to go up to somebody and talk to them and have them not remember it. I don't want to hook up with somebody and have them go, oh, we did something? Well, okay, that was nice and memorable. Awesome. Yeah, well, you had to show your husband pictures before. I didn't remember I was swimming in a pool either. That's true, but that's why I take pictures to remind you of stupid shit. But, you know, it's just like going to Connecticut and she took Ambien right beforehand. She told me, when I take this, I will talk to you for an hour and not remember it. So she kissed me. I had my arms down. I did absolutely nothing. She passed out and I went, yeah, I'm not doing anything. She didn't remember doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and so, so then there's the next question. So you have, let's say we have all the things in place, have an area for people to try it, rock on, you know, all the different things. But cause I'm assuming people aren't going to sit in that area for seven hours, maybe, but whatever. Depends. Depends. Maybe if it's good enough. But let's say, how are you then in turn, how would you deal with it if you hooked up with somebody? No, obviously no malintent by anybody involved, but you hooked up with somebody and the next day they walk up to you and they go, this is going to be a really weird question. I think we had sex. Did we have sex? How are you going to respond? Not how you're going to feel. We'll get to that in a second. How are you going to respond to that? Well, I'd respond with the truth. Well, no, although it'd be funny. Nope, sure didn't. I mean, no, but I mean, I knew you'd respond with the truth. Well, I mean, I'd be a smartass first and go, do you not remember? No, I don't. I'm pretty sure we did, but not for sure. Seriously? Seriously. Well, we did. I know what I'd say to that. I'd be like, was it good? That's just me, though. Okay. Was I any good? Could I even get it up? Did it function? Okay, so you have the conversation. Then how do you treat them the rest of the time? And I'm asking you because you are notorious for holding a grudge. I hold a grudge? Uh-huh. And I know when you're pondering the answer, here's how this conversation is going to go with me. You're going to come up to me and go, I am so fucking pissed right now. me, and guess what they said? I'm going to go, well, what did they say? And I'll know that there's something bad off of the fucking steam coming out of yours. Well, apparently they were so fucked up they didn't even remember fucking me last night. So they had to ask if I even fucked. So what the fuck is even the fucking point? That's what you're going to say to me. I probably wouldn't drop so many F-bombs in there. Okay. All right. So yeah, I'll give you that. Take a few F-bombs out. I mean, there'll be a few, but that... You're going to be pretty fucking. You're going to be... I'll be pretty upset. I'd be hurt. You're going to be pissed and hurt. Yeah. And you're going to be like, never mind. You know, obviously it doesn't even matter anymore. It doesn't matter. I wasn't going to remember, but I can hear it. Well, I definitely wouldn't sleep with anybody for the rest of the weekend, afraid that they wouldn't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I, yeah. Oh, I know. I know. So later on when, you know, because like me to deal with it, what if I'm embarrassed, I crack jokes, obviously. Uh, but how are you going to deal with that person? So this happens Friday night. So we still have all day Saturday. There's activities. There's whatever. How are you going to deal with that? Because you kind of said how it would make you feel, obviously, right there. Yeah, and it depends on how well I know them. If I know them really well, then I'd probably crack smart-ass jokes every time I saw them. Hey, do you remember that? Go ahead and give them a kiss on the cheek. Are you going to remember that? Carry a sign. You know, that's the smartass in me. But I have to know them really well. If I don't know them, there's a spider coming down from the ceiling. If you don't know them really well. Is it big? No, it's not. But if it's not very. Look at the third light and follow it down. Motherfucker. He hasn't liked spider snow. Go kill it. Anyway. Where was I going with this? If I don't know them very well, I probably would somewhat try to avoid or... I'd probably somewhat avoid them or just be cordial and not do anything. You know what I mean? Would you ever hook up with them again down the road? The grudge in me, probably not. Or it would take a while before I... and do it again. Okay. So... The spider kind of totally fucked my train of thought knowledge. I was just saying. So then... You totally lost your train of thought. I totally lost, and that does not happen very often. Well, it does, but there's other trains coming by. I'll catch the next one. So... Train? The... The interesting part with this, Brian, I would definitely be a bit of a blow to the ego, too, if someone didn't remember. Well, it's hurtful because either, A, did you really want to do it, or did you need something to be able to do it? In terms of, do you need to be, okay, do you need the alcohol to be able to go up to walk up to somebody to even ask them? We've all done liquid courage. It happens. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that, especially when you can remember. But it reaches a point where after another time, if you can't not function in a lifestyle, or like we see it in the adult world, if you can't not function in the adult world without being fucked up, you're in the wrong business. Wrong business, because you really shouldn't need anything to be able to do your job. Right, right. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to make it a little bit more fun, but, you know. Or did I suck that bad? Right. It's like, well... The sad thing is that... Must not have been memorable. See, there's the part that's the huge rub in this whole thing, is that, okay, and that would be you to a T. Yeah, I know. And even though you are the queen of logic, right? I mean, you're exceedingly logical. Yes. Okay, well... No, I'd analyze... the shit out of it. No. You would misanalyze the shit out of it because that's what you do. Let's use my hands example. I am freaked out about my hands from appointment, right? And you go into complete logical mode by this, they would have done this, they would have been serious. It's not complete logical. You take any fear that I have and you prove why that's wrong, okay? When it comes to this, you would absolutely analyze the shit out of it and you would go on a complete Larry, my look is going to be like, I see an animal house, she passes out, and I'm stuck with a handful of tissue paper. Exactly. I'm going to lie through my teeth and say, my dick worked like a fucking boss. I railed you so hard, you didn't know what the hell happened. That's what I'm going to say. But that's what you... If you were the one that didn't remember, would you go, did it work? Did you orgasm? No. I would, because I could get away with that. Because here's the deal, anybody who knows me knows, that I can be stone sober. I've been fucking you for 33 years. And I still ask you, did you come? I can get away with that shit. If it was me, my embarrassment would be either I would try to avoid you. Like, my brain would be spinning because it was dreamlike in nature. I'm going to run it through a million times so I can sort out. if it was real. And I would never, for me, and this is just as wrong, don't, I would never walk up and ask that fucking question. Because you know what? I would never admit that I didn't know because I would be so thoroughly embarrassed by my behavior. I struggle with approaching people to this day being buzzed would loosen me up. But I don't need it to flash someone. He flashed me before we left. He didn't. He had a lovely tits. I got a titty flash. Lovely tits. I don't know. Man. Hey, you know, guys don't hear that enough. Guys don't hear that enough. None of the guys go, hey man, nice rack. We were walking to the cottage and he's just standing and now I'm like, so they look over and just start laughing. He's not helping pack up or anything. He's just standing there. So for that, And guys, I'm secure enough of my sexuality that I can say, Cody, nice rack. Okay. We always try to play sober. I mean, yes, we might have a couple of drinks, but we don't get sloppy drunk. If we can tell they're sloppy drunk or overly high, then we won't play with them. I have nothing against weed, but gotcha. Right. I don't have anything against anybody that wants to try anything. So they want the whole thing. Yeah. I've learned once I get to a certain point, the answer is no. because now my judgment is at 100% and I don't want to get sick either. Absolutely. God, thank you. Not being a person that does recreational anything, do you know when you've reached that point? I mean, I'm legitimately asking that because I don't know. Here's what I can answer for you from what is. Put me in front of a mirror. If you stand there staring at yourself long enough, then that's a no? No. Or what? Your skin starts crawling. No. No. I'm making shit up. He hates it when I put words in his mouth. I do. It drives me insane. If you put me in front of a mirror and watch me, because as I start to get fucked up, whether it's booze, whether it's drugs, doesn't matter what it is, I start to get fucked up. I'm staring into my own eyes, and I'm watching it, and I'm trying to talk to you. Fuck myself. So I'm mentally having a battle with myself. Watch me. Because you've watched me. I will stare so fucking deep into that mirror. Because I'm trying to. It's Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes. Okay, if you've ever read Sherlock Holmes books. Sherlock Holmes was a cocaine addict. Sherlock Holmes did cocaine because he was so intelligent that he liked it. He did the cocaine because it created a puzzle for his mind. And so he would go in this trance working the puzzle out in his mind. That was all logical. I did cocaine. Okay. So when I get to that point, if I'm in a bar, I'm getting really fucking twisted. I'll go in. I'll be like, trying to breathe deep. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I know where I'm at. I know where I'm. But it's very rare that all of a sudden it's like, I'm straight. And now I'm like, oh, I'm just fucked. There's usually in between ground there. And that's everybody's saying the same thing there. They can tell. You know. The thing is, it's that whole thing. I know I should say no. Do I have the ability to? Here would be my problem. I mean, alcohol we do know. Because she then came back and said, well, I can tell if I've had too many. Alcohol we usually all can somewhat tell. Yes. When you're getting probably too. But I can pull it. A lot of people are like me and can pull it off pretty fucking good. in short bursts. If I just do a short burst with you, I can get away with it. But if you catch me, here's what's funny. If you guys know anything about us, if you watch this, if you think I'm getting drunk, and I'm going, no, I'm fine, you will latch a hold of me. I've seen you a million. You'll catch me. Because you know that if I start to get drunk, I'm going to convince you or try to convince you. I can pretty much convince anybody in a short little blast, but I can only maintain it so long. And you don't let me get away, and you're like, look at me. Look at me. And you keep asking me fucking questions. One time you lied. One time I couldn't tell. And I paid for it. But there was one time I couldn't tell. Yeah. And you can. But if I'm unsure, I go, wait a half hour. Yeah. My problem would be for me in a situation with like trying drugs. Not trying. It wouldn't be trying now. But doing them again. Or doing something again now. Would be. Obviously, if a girl came up to me and was like, this does happen, so this is all a very, very hypothetical situation. If a girl came up to me and said, hey, let's go fuck, and I'm fucked up, and I'm high, and I know that, I'm going to say yes. I know me. Even if it's somebody you weren't interested in. Really? Yeah. I mean, or the odds are like, or if I go, it's not somebody that I'm not interested. Let's say that I know that if I was straight, I would be like, this could maybe be a situation that isn't the best for both of us later, blah. Not so much I'm not interested, but it's not really in our best interest. I'm going to take, and I'm going to throw that at that point in time right out the window. Again, this doesn't ever, it's never happened. It's never going to happen. It won't matter. But that would be my thing is I would be like, I'd be like, yeah. And as I get friendlier, I get flirty. Luckily, years and years ago, when I tried different things, I was just like, I'm with booze. I'm a friendly stoner. I'm a happy person whenever I'm fucked up. Most of the time. Most of the time. It's either happy or sappy. You don't get pissy. That's part of the reason I wouldn't probably do acid now is that acid would probably have a temp. that could get pretty... It wouldn't be sappy. It would be very, very deep. Very, very deep. Apparently, Brian, when he's had pot and he's had too much, he passes out. So he goes, so it's... He doesn't... Lucky people. Yeah, some people... Some people want to be around people when they're getting high. And honestly... I don't like the smell of it, but I'll be around it. It doesn't bother me. Well, one of the newer challenges with the thing is that. There used to be, you know, just... When I drink or get high, my judgment sucks, but I can manipulate any situation. You're like that. Because I... You know why? Any fear of... Any fear of consequences out the fucking window. See, when I moved to Nebraska, I was... Okay, so... When I was back home, I was blind as a fucking bat, apparently. And just very naive. I'm still probably pretty naive. Because I don't realize everybody's doing it and who all's doing it. And I go, really? They do that? My first experience with drugs was a room full of people doing opium. And I'm like, what are they doing in there? Opium. You don't want it. Okay, I'll take your opinion on that. And it terrified me. I'm like, I don't want to be around that shit. You know, I'm like, okay, no, we don't want to do that. I don't know what it'll do to me. No, I'm not doing it. I'd be like, okay, hey. I remember doing pot at one gal's house that I worked with, and the only thing I can remember about the whole evening is I puked all over her floor. Beth, I think LSD would fry my middle-aged brains. Look, I'm not going to lie. Yeah. The middle-aged, that midlife crisis for me would so, Go get a drink out of the water. I had a four-hour conversation with Jim Morrison from the poster. While I was talking to Morrison, it was deep as fuck, too, I might add, that my buddy, they had a four-legged table, old table. The table got thirsty. Coffee table. No, it was a kitchen table. Oh, it was a kitchen table? Yeah, and it walked into the kitchen. It weirded up on its back two legs and it used its one leg to turn on the water and the other leg like a trunk and drank the water and then shut the water off. and walked back. The last time I ever did acid, we were driving somewhere, and they couldn't keep me. It was winter. And they couldn't keep me in the car because the car was a cloud. And I was hanging out of the car. We were trying to drive down the interstate. I'm hanging out of the car with the winter on my little jacket, freezing, going, it's holding together. I can't believe the cloud's holding together. And they couldn't. They ended up seatbelting me into the backseat of the car because I kept trying to get out and pile out of the car. So, but I smoked back then, so cool things like, you know, tracers. I mean, look, if you've ever watched fucking, if you've ever watched Sesame Street. So you and Beth can trip together with Jim Morrison. Yeah, when Kermit the Frog's making a letter with a magic finger, we're writing our name. It's like peeing in the snow the first time you're writing your name with your dick. Girls don't have that experience, I'm sorry. No, okay, but with cigarettes and you're writing your name and shit with tracers. and shit. And it's just like, you know, but I never had a bad trip. Now, yeah, if you have the, this is the other problem with this middle-aged and people trying shit like this is that I've watched people had a bad trip. I've been somebody that sat with people. One group was set with somebody who was having a horrible trip and the tears and the, the pain. And the, I mean, it's eight hours out. Cause once you start. It's no stop. You're just, You just enjoy the magic ride, and if it's horrible, you know, when you start seeing things trying to kill you, that's horrible. Well, you know, so there's just a lot with that. Okay, I know. That's funny. So here becomes the newest challenge. So as we go forward, we know that the shit's It's not going to go away. Like, we're not, you know. And that's fine. And yeah, and we're not, we're not so naive to think it is. But I think that one of the things that was a great suggestion, I think, was kind of just having an area to try it. Is, I guess, the biggest part of this is still to come out with the fact of, again, reminding people, you know, this has to be part of your conversation as a couple, or if you're with someone, or whatever your dynamic is, or if you're friends, just like rules and everything, this has to be part of your conversation. Because more and more and more, this is going to become a reality you're going to be faced with. You're going to have that opportunity to try different things. And again, no vindictiveness about it, but you need to have a plan. You need to make a decision as a, hey, yes, this is something I want to try. Rock on. How are you going to do it? Are you both going to try it? Are you going to try it one time? Whatever. So I have a question because it kind of goes with porn shoots and shit too. And the only reason I'm thinking about this is because the brothel asked it, do you do recreational drugs? Do you ask somebody that? Yes. It's absolutely, it is 100%. Okay, to ask somebody if they do recreational drugs. And are they currently doing? Because that's a dilemma when I go to shoot next week, next couple weeks, is, you know, you have a bunch of newbies. How many of them are going to be, well, I need this to get through it? Well, hold that thought a second. I want to read this one. I've turned people down before that I suspected were beyond buzz. I've turned people down when I was wasted. I believe that consent needs to be given as far as that goes. Absolutely agree with that. So here's the question I'd pose with that thought process. Because there are going to be a bunch of newbies there. Somebody's baked out of their gourd. And you're supposed to shoot with them. You're shooting with them? I don't know. I'm... I mean, that's... This is part of why we're having this, because this is a conversation that we have to have. Well, does it depend on what drug that... I mean, I've never seen... Consent doesn't care. Consent doesn't care. But on weed, are they going to remember it versus other things? I mean, that becomes... Consent doesn't care. There's a whole new liability with that, because guess what? We have documentation that says you... Yeah, I mean, and you still have a responsibility if someone's train wreck drunk, just because they're on the paper, you're still... Or before you start shooting, you do the... Okay, we're shooting this porn on this day, and you're consenting to shooting this porn. Yeah, I mean... To save your ass. But that's really part of it, is that there comes a point where you... If they're all partying because they're a bunch of doobies and they're baked, you know what? No, you don't shoot with them. Because if they can't control themselves to shoot and be... Recreational, one thing, but to be straight for the shoot, then you can't trust them to follow the... because smokers, here's the deal. You smoke, I smoke, you have fucking ash. You smell the conestrian. It is what it is. So just like people have the right to go, no. If you smoke, I'm not interested. There are people that go drinking. There are people, we have them in our group, that are highly allergic to weed. So if you smelled like weed and started to make out with them, you're going to cause them to have an allergic reaction. So I think that you have that right to do that. I think that there's a, there's always There's always a degree of, don't yuck somebody else's yum, but by the same token, don't change who you are to appease their yum. And I think that is, you know, part of what it's just like, because again, I'm really, it's really in my brain now, and I really like the idea of a separate area. And it's like, here's the deal, you know what? Don't, if it's not your thing, great, then stay the fuck away from that area. Don't come over that area and bitch. If you come over that area in bed, if it's my event, I'll throw your ass out. Because it's like, no. They're not pushing it onto you. Right. You know, type thing. But I think that that reality becomes very important. If someone's messed up, you don't proceed. Take your rein check if you want. Absolutely. Those of us with little experience may not know how to recognize in somebody who don't know well is beyond consent outside of the very obvious. Yeah, and here's the other thing. This is where it comes down to being an adult. If you don't know, there's some things in life you roll the dice and say, fuck it, because that's what living is all about. And there's some things in life that you err on the side of caution. If you don't know when it comes to, if you don't know if they're too fucked up, if you suspect, if there's a reason that you suspect that they are too You fucked up. Your answer should always, 100% of the time, without doubt, without question, no excuses, no way, is no. There is no justification. Because if it's in your brain that there's a chance, there's your answer. Right? That is just a no-brainer. And yes, as Vincent said, we are all adults as well. And here's the other reality. You have a responsibility. Using the thing of, I got caught up in the moment, I didn't, you know, it's one thing if you were drugged, that's a totally different ballgame, but I got caught up in the moment. Peer pressure, quite honestly, we're all adults, you know. Look, there are still places that drug tests and everything else, so your employer is not going to fucking listen to you when you go. Well, I was at the swinger party, this chick was really hot, and I really wanted to fuck her, and she said, if I did this, then she'd fuck me. And I gave in. It's like, no. Being high or drunk, are you more likely to give consent to things you normally would not? I would be, yes. I absolutely would be. And the only reason I know this is I've seen me do it. Yeah. You have pictures, actually. No, not anymore. Not anymore. I got rid of that a long time ago. That could be considered rape, too, with the right lawyers. Absolutely. Unfortunately, that's not a risk. It's worth taking. It's not. Being... No one wants to have to stand and face somebody and go, I didn't know. And I just foresee that. I didn't know. If I would have known you were that fucked up, I wouldn't do it. Nobody wants to live with that. Really no. And that's the honest to God's truth. And really, in life, it works that way. Error in the side of caution when it comes to what, if you're at your job and you don't know if the joke is appropriate or not, well, err on the fucking side of caution, dumbass. You know, if you don't know if you're at your kid's ballgame and if you greet the other parents in a certain way and you don't know if it goes over the line, err on the side of fucking caution. It's a topic that's going to continue to be around for a while and it's going to be a learning curve for a long time to get to like get caught up on the curve because there's challenges with everything as you try different things and how to how to do things in a way which you know the safe way the smart way how to protect people how to not you know be an old stogie but also you know be true to to to what the values and everybody it starts with is is totally, totally having the conversations is what leads all there. So obviously we're not going to solve all of it tonight, but it's a good starting point. Well, it's just something to be alert about. Yeah, it's a good starting point. You do you. I don't care what you decide to do, what you partake in. I don't care. It's yourself. For us, it's a unique challenge because where we put stuff on, it's... I guess I'll throw this out there. This is a really good way to end this, and this is something I think people have to remember is every event you go to, the owners of clubs, owners of events, everything along those lines have different views and opinions on how they do things. And CASBA, we pride ourselves on safety. And so it's important, and I say this because we have so many people who have been to so many events through the years, and count on your safety being their concern or that they will take care of you. You just, it doesn't work that way. And so take care of it. Watch out for yourselves and each other. So with that being said, kids, we got to roll or we'll be here all night. It's a great topic. I love it. 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