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Krazy Truth about Swinging #340 The first overnight part 2

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Speaker1: Hey, kids. The program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey, you crazy motherfuckers. Welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth. I'm your host with the most and a hat. I'm Cole, and I'm here with the lovely, lovely and new boobs, new girls, Miss Amanda. Hey. And we're here to tantalate and titillate you. I'm tantalate and she's titillate. Anyways, this is Season 8, Episode 340. Look, I knew that already. And we're excited. This is a Part 2 deuce of a show. Whatever. Anyways, a quick shout-out to our sponsors as we get going here. ASN Lifestyle Magazine, if you want to know what's going on in the adult world as well as Lifestyle, make it have it each and every month to read ASN Lifestyle Magazine... ASN Lifestyle Magazine. Motorbunny.com. You want a sex toy, you know you can count on quality product, quality name. 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And I've had that for a whopping two and a half days. Now, here's the thing. When you sent me home with a rack of ribs with the concept of don't touch it, I was going to eat one here or two here on the show. Yeah, it didn't work. He couldn't stay out of it. And I'm like, aren't you supposed to save it for the show? And he goes, well, yeah, I just need to save two. And then he can't do it. And I'm like, just eat it and save the bone. Yeah. So there it was. Super delish. I love that shit. They used our special Casimir blend is what they used on the ribs. They were delicious. So thank you very much. Please continue to bribe your host with more meat and meat products at all times. Get ready, though. You will start seeing a huge push of Caswell meat rubs out as we get ready to go. We're back on the road. So, you know, when you're at the ranch for every customer, once they pay you to fuck you, you'll give them a complimentary rub of meat rub. Here you go. Congratulations. When you go home and jack off thinking about me later, congratulations. You, too, can smell like Caswell. Twice. Just saying. All right. I didn't think about that. Okay, so going back to the basis DX thing, because he had to throw him Because she's from Mississippi right now. Duh, because I'm from Mississippi. So on there it said Mississippi has the highest rate of STDs. I'm like, oh, really? So then I'm reading the article and it's like one in a hundred people have an STI in Mississippi and the biggest, they're calling it an epidemic of syphilis. And I'm like, we are not planning when I go. Because we're going down there. We're going to be in Mississippi at the end of this month in between our stop in Orlando for ASN Awards and a whole bunch of content shooting and our stop in Nashville for some content shooting. So we're going to be visiting her family, some of her family, and we will not be having sex with anybody down there while we're there. Just saying. So anyway. Really? Yeah. So now before we go in too far as well, we're going to do a quick update on the boobs because they'll basically Then this will be the last of the boob watches. Well, I mean, you can watch them, but whatever. So you had... Yep, there you go. That's what they do. Let's go to the gym and watch them bounce. My nag is so sore. I'll flex them for people if they really want to see it. For a fee. For a fee. Nothing's free, man. These fuckers cost money. Nothing's free. Anyway, so she had her... Whore? Nope, not yet. That's not until September when you're back at the ranch. She had her six-week checkup. I did not go with, because I felt like she handled it. She didn't need me going there. So whatever. I was working on other shit. And so the verdict is? They're healing nicely. They're dropped. They still have a little bit more dropping to go. Not much. But he was quite happy with them. Except one, he goes, I want, you know, we might end up lifting that one just a little bit. So there may be some nip and tuck. I don't know. I've always had one lower than the other. You know where to wear the strap that went across. No. The strap that was pushing down. I can let gravity take its place. It can, but not too fast because we've got to make these last leaves 10 years. But all your restrictions have been lifted, so you're no longer on any weightlifting restrictions, reaching above. You can actually start to, because you were able to start running and walking and And now you can actually start working out like you like to do. Again, yoga and all that. I like to do it. I don't even think about yoga. Yeah, but you can start doing that shit again. Yeah. And I don't have to fucking, you know, just walk around and be a fucking extension all the time. Fucking. No, I don't mind. It's fine. No, when something's high up, you have to reach it for me. Well, yeah, but it's not because it's not. If it's here, you can still, you know, go get her. It's just, yeah, if it's way high, I do it, but that's different from all you. So, but yeah, so they're all good. and on the thing and you are not making a decision in general. You can't re-pierce them for... Pierceers said at least a year. A year, which is fine. You're enjoying the new tits as is. The nipples are a little sensitive right now anyway, so I don't think I would want to anyway at the moment. So Crazy Summer Nights will be the first official... They were officially out. They've been out for business already because you did a shoot on Saturday. I did a shoot on Saturday. And so you've had them officially groped. If you follow her on Twitter, you can see the first business feel. They were the first fake boobs he's ever felt. So there you go. Breaking them in. Which is a new video dropping and that's actually super cool. Get a chance to work on it. Because the name of that video is going to be Train and the Newbie. So that's get ready to watch all your local theaters. You'll want to watch it. It's worth it. 14 bucks on one thing. You'll want to watch it. You'll jack off. But Crazy Summer Nights coming up this weekend, which today is Tuesday. The show drops on Thursday. So this show will be out. So that'll be your first official swinger excursion with your new tits. But the thing is, part of this is it is a woo-hoo because then the other part of it is that about a week and a half after Crazy Summer Nights, we go to Orlando. And actually, I've got shooting some content in Santa Claus. There's actually, we're going to be hanging out with, because we're one of the sponsors for the ASN Awards, which are up for five of them. So with some hardware, but, and she's up for Miss Porn Start of the Year, actually. So, but we're also going to get a chance and we have meet and greets and whatever with the casting folks of Vixen and Wifey and Milf. There's the casting directors and the CEO of Hustler that we're going to be hanging out with. And milfcandy.com is another one that's going to be there. And so a lot of folks. So that green dress that she was in at Crazy Winter Nights last year, now she looks like Jessica Rabbithead with big tits this year. So we're excited. I had to try it on and go, oh my God, I hope my boobs fit in it. And I zipped up and went, oh, I got cleavage. And the cool thing is there's quite a few people there that we've We've already got people that have lined up introductions for us. My tuxedo, my shirt doesn't show up. I need to check on that. But my tuxedo got here, and so they've already lined up introductions for us to get to meet these people. So that's the steps we need to keep ramping towards shooting for the big porn career. So there you go. But the reason we're here tonight, obviously, is our regular show, but this is episode two, which we normally do two episodes. This is, we're talking about the last, you just got back last week from you were gone last Sunday to Wednesday. And I got back Wednesday night-ish. I ended up being like midnight. Right. So you ended up, you went to Connecticut. So the short recap. Went to Connecticut. It was basically, you're going, it was a friend, more than a friend, female friend. It was going to be the first overnight. nine yards with that. So Connecticut, how far you traveled for a hookup winning. So. Actually, there's some that beat me on that one. Right. But so that's what it says. Now, so when we talked about the first, if you haven't listened to part one, I encourage you to do that because we talked about people forget, even though we do porn and other stuff, we still have typical swinger things, feelings, emotions, how, and we talked about all that stuff leading up to it. This show is kind of the recap in terms of talk about your experiences out there, feelings, that whole part with it as well. Now, before we go any further, if at this point in the show you're going, sweet, we're going to hear about some hot lesbian sex, shut off the room, have a great night. You can buy videos for that. That's not this show. Okay, so the discretion, discretion. That might surprise her. We didn't do any videos. The discretion factor is still in place. What they did or didn't do sexually when the lights go off, that's not what this show is about. It's about all the other parts leading up to because that's what is actually. We don't do sex for paid. Right. So just FYI for transparency. So let's see. Let's start off. You were supposed to, you left Omaha at like five in the afternoon, six in the afternoon. Six in the afternoon. And you were supposed to get to Connecticut. Okay, so I was supposed to, I was flying into Charlotte. And then I had an hour layover in Charlotte. And then it was off to Connecticut. Now an hour layover, when you think about it, they start loading the plane 40 minutes early. So I only had like 20 minutes to get to where I needed to go. So you were supposed to land in Connecticut. At midnight Eastern Standard Time. It was like 1140. Right. Yeah. 1140. So we get into Charlotte and we're sitting on the runway. And I'm like, why are we sitting here? And I'm like, okay. And I look, the building, it was nighttime, right? So it's dark. And the building was clear off in the distance. I go, what the fuck is going on? There were, the captain, They end up coming on the intercom and saying, there are 15 planes ahead of us to get to a gate. To get to a gate. I've heard of 15 planes. I've heard of waiting in line to take off. And I've heard of one or two planes waiting for gates. 15 planes. So how long did you end up sitting on the plane? I know, because we were texting. I don't remember, because it was at least two hours. Because I'm like, well, we were supposed to be leaving now. And then it kept... Of course, my phone's going off saying plane's been delayed. Plane's been delayed. Because as the stewardess and everybody else is like, you know, when one is late, they all kind of trickle when it gets this backed up. And we're like, well, that makes sense because how are they going to take off if everybody's waiting to get in? Like the people to fly the fuckers. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So you want to talk about a Karen. There was a gal on the plane. The captain is trying to keep us... up to date on what's going on. And when you unfortunately have an app that is telling you, you know, your plane is loading in zero minutes, your plane is loading in zero minutes, you're at this gate. Well, we're not. And the plane, the captain is going, you know, we'll be getting to our gate soon, you know, next 15 minutes, which was it like two hours. And finally, this gal went to the stewardess and go, because he keeps lying to us, and the app keeps saying this, what is actually going on? It's like, Nobody knows. That's the problem. Just sit down and shut the fuck up. So you're texting me. So you're in the airplane. You're texting me. Now you are hours behind. I'm out. I take a picture of where my plane is. It's sitting in the gate. I'm like, that's my plane. She's face-timing me at basically midnight their time at a full airport. And you can hear people clapping. And she's like, oh, somebody's plane just finally loaded. Okay, so, but it was funny because I get off the plane. Well, my gate is only like two doors down, thank God. But that didn't matter because it was still delayed. I get off the airplane and there are thousands of people. And I mean thousands. I was like, oh my gosh, if everything were to shut down, this is what it would look like. And I was amazed. I'm like, you gotta see this. I'm gonna put you on video. And I start walking down because my plane's not leaving. And I walk down like there are people everywhere. So the unique part of this is besides a horror story with four because he ain't flying. But you're also now because you have a two-hour flight from there to Connecticut. And the reason we're bringing this up is because we're talking about the fact of overnight, it's still like a date-like thing-ish. She doesn't stay up late like I don't stay up late. If she has to, yeah, we do it. But she doesn't necessarily do it all the time. And I'm like going, you know, you don't have to pick me up. I can get an Uber to an airport. You can come get me the next day. It's not that big a deal because the airport is 45 minutes from our house. And I'm like, it's okay. And she goes, I'm not going to leave you. And I'm like, you're not leaving me. It's my plane is late. You know, I can text you when we're getting ready to take off, but you know, it's going to be late. Okay, so my plane was supposed to get in 11 740. It got in at 3 a.m. And the part of it is that's so interesting that we want them to understand is that if it was just a vacation, or it was like a classmate, rock on. But this is still, you still have the concept of what you're flying out there for. So you have this, what, think about it when you go on a date with anybody, or you go to a hookup for the first time or whatever with anybody, there's nerves. And it's like, okay. And it's that break the ice. And then it like calms down and naturally gets there. So all the things, but this is ramped up because you're going to be staying there for a couple of days. She has a big puppy, you know, and the process of, of going through. And so now you have two, you have two people with two extra hours to, of a, of a unknown, out of your control, stressful situation, delaying without definite answers of when that initial meeting is going to take place. Granted, you guys know each other, so that helps. But then on top of it, there has, you know, you don't want to be a pain in the ass because that's not your style. She wants to be a good host. That's her style. So all the awkwardness that could have happened at 11.49, which is like, okay, is now ramped up. Everybody's fucking tired, ramped up, and I'm on the phone with both of them. I'm talking to her, I'm texting with the other one, and they're texting back and forth. So when you get there because yeah right off the bat this whole is like well you don't have to you know it's no big deal and she's like absolutely not I'm you know she's texting me I'm not leaving your wife there and it's like okay I finally got to bed at 2.30. It never fails when you're so excited and ready for something anything and everything can and does go wrong. And I was exhausted because I was on the phone with both of them until 2.30 I'm like motherfuckers this is Midwest time I'm behind you fucking people so I was like okay Okay, so you finally get there. Now, what Larry said, I think it's always funny because anytime I'm going to hook up with somebody new for the first time, I always have this grand plan. You know, I have this idea. It's like, so then when as soon as we walk through the hotel room door, I'm going to do this and this and this. Yeah. And usually, like, there's one girl, she can attest to it. What didn't happen the first time? We had this grand plan of what we're going to do. The air conditioner, we couldn't figure out the air and it was in winter. No, it was winter. So it was air and hot and then cold. So here it is again, that same thing, and everything puts off until 3 in the morning. So the greeting was like more of a quick peck, let's go get our baggage and get the fuck out of the airport. Because you still had a 40-minute drive to her house. And then... When it gets to the house, we're sitting in the car and she hands me a bowl. I took a picture of said bowl and I said, is this a bribe? And she goes, yes. I'm like, okay, no. Now, she has a, it's what the police dogs are. German Shepherd? It's not a German Shepherd. It's a, they look like a German Shepherd, but a little bit smaller. Wolf. No, not a wolf. It starts with an M. I can't recall. It's not my dog. Malmute. No, not a Malmute. Shut up, doesn't matter. But she goes, if you want to get in the house, there's things that you have to do. And I'm like, oh. Isn't it funny holding a ball and there's things you have to do to get in the house? That's how our marriage started. I'm like, okay, well, this is entertaining. It's already, you know, like four o'clock in the morning. And I'm like, okay. And she goes, okay. I'm going to let him out. You're going to say this. He's going to sit. He's going to look at you. You say this, you say this, and you throw the ball. Okay. Well, good thing I have dogs and I'm okay with that. So I'm like, okay. I say, yes, break. She goes, yes. I'm like, yes, break. And she goes, yes. And I'm like, okay. So she lets the dog out and he's sitting there and she goes, okay. And I said, yes, break, throw the ball. And the dog wouldn't leave me alone. Melanoids. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So, but then... I mean, he was the cutest thing, but... So now it's four in the morning. It's four in the morning. Neither one of you are night people. No. And you have the fact, so the very first thing basically you're going to do on this thing is go to bed, which... No. We have to make the bed. She made the bed. Okay, so because I was still under restriction, And she goes, I'm going to take your bags upstairs to the guest bedroom. I'm like, okay. And she goes, but you're sleeping down there. Which in that case, was it kind of a good thing where she was definitive? Yes. Because you're going, okay, so I'm going to sleep up here. Thank God I didn't because I walked into that spare bedroom and holy crap, I'd have frozen my ass off. And I'm just like, oh, it's cold in here. Which I was fine with. She just put my bag on the bed. I'm like, okay, well, I guess this is where I'm getting ready in the morning, but okay. And by the time the bed's all made, it's 5 a.m. And it's just like, we're just going to bed. Fuck this shit. And let the excitement begin. And we both passed out. We were tired. Of course, you know, then the dog wakes you up early, but that's beside the point. So the interesting part was, it's funny because again, yeah, it's the difference the difference between if you're going down to meet somebody first from a hotel or a bar to have a drink first or whatever the case may be it's this this thing so it's almost like the true figuring out what's going on so to speak in terms of like vibes and everything else just got postponed to the day so so you you're getting to start that off with the everybody knows how they look like shit in the morning Yeah, but it's like going and taking your makeup off. And I said, okay, I don't really do this a whole lot. So people don't see me bare. And she's like, I don't care. I'm like, you don't, but I do. And it's just like, okay, this is uncomfortable. Now, mind you, she's the same fucking way. Because when she goes out there, sort of. So how was that for you? How did that? Do you think in the grand scheme of things, fast forward down the road, sometime, someplace, somewhere, guy, girl in the future, Do you think having experienced that, where your first one was like, okay, we're going to go right to the point of you're going to see me in my most uncomfortable form, do you think that will help you down the road? Do you think it makes any difference? No. Okay. No, because it's my safety blanket. It is a security. It's not security. It's when you have red splotchy skin and you use makeup to even it out. You don't want people to see you with this bright-ass red nose, you know? Right, right. So it's just like, you know, so it's like, okay, you're seeing me. Naked is all naked. I'm bearing all for you. Right, right. But if it were to come with the meeting up with somebody else, no, unless in the throes of sex it gets smeared off. And then you just go, well, you've already fucked me, so it's all good. And so for clarification, the key is that you're seeing the true naked, Not the undressed naked. No. Because I think that's the part people don't understand. That was one of my things that was going to be interesting to see how that went. Because there's naked. You being naked, it's just like the campfire. It has never fazed you to be, you're comfortable naked, whatever, obviously with what you do, being naked, you know, getting naked for a second. But this is the deep, like, inner soul type of naked type stuff right off the bat. It's taking your safety blanket away. Do you think that because of how that all happened, out of your greatest control, that it changed or altered anything over the course of the weekend? Like made it more uncomfortable or anything? Do you think it had any effect? Because getting up and, you know, you get up in the morning and you're sitting at the kitchen table bar, whatever, in the kitchen talking to her while she was doing stuff, feeding the dog or whatever the case may be. I don't remember. And I said, I'm not usually like this. People don't see me like this. At least I was able to talk to her. Right. And tell her, people don't see me like this. You know, even a camp out, you won't see me come out of the room without makeup on my face. Which, which, okay. So that's one of the things that for this overall event, obviously you guys, we know them, you know, we know her and we're friends with her. whatever. But, you know, if you do just a regular hookup, just, hey, make somebody a hotel, and then we go fuck or whatever, a lot of times to get that deeper conversation, that deeper getting to know people, you really don't get to do that. Right. Some of my best hookups have been with people that I have been able to, like the girl we were talking about with the thing, but that doesn't happen all the time. So how was that part of the experience? Because I don't know that necessarily, you and your hookups are always fucking so quick. and calm and calm. I mean, I assume you do sit and talk when you guys hook up with people. But was that, I mean, how was that for you as an experience overall, just in terms of as a person? I guess the question is because now where you are a sex worker, right? So any sort of deeper, so much of your sex, the sexual stuff that you do is it's work. It's just business. I always just say sex is just a verb. And for most of what you do, it is. Where this took that more to a not, it wasn't just work. Did you like that experience? Did you not like it? I mean, have you really had a chance to process it because, or will you process it? I'm not saying that in a smart ass way, but you and I look at things different when it comes to that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm ass that fucking retarded as hell. Enough to where you lost me and then you brought me back and then lost me again, so. Was it deeper because you got to have a deep conversation with something other than just, hey, great. Where we knew her on a personal level to begin with, it just became a more intimate level. But it's still sex. It's not emotionally attached to it. Right. You know what I mean? Right. No, I get it. I just didn't know. I didn't know because I think a lot of people have the misconception with people in sex workers. And I think Swinger, I feel like this has happened to us in our group and in the stuff we go to that there's a bigger disconnect. Like, that's why the show is so important. The last two shows were so important because we still go through the same process when we do our, well, not real life because Swinging is not real life. But when we do our swinger world, it's still different than just our porn world. You know? And so that it's still like, you know, sex has not just become this, just a commodity. Okay. But then you also have swinger sex is different than porn sex because porn sex you're putting on a show and you're trying to make it look good. So there's really not much. excitement about it, about going to, we'll say a camp out and picking up somebody and going, hey, let's go back and fuck. Right. And then be like, really? Okay. And then that's a little bit different excitement because you're not scripting out. Right. Switch! It's not a script of, okay, I'm going to suck your dick first. Okay. And then you're going to, I'm going to get on top and then you're going to, okay. I need to make sure I lift my leg just right so you get the right angle of the dick. Yeah. Okay. No, but I mean that, That makes sense. So was it... Because the whole time you have the... It's not a vacation. We talked about this, obviously, a little bit. It still wasn't like a vacation. Because, yes, it was, but there was other undertones with it. So, you know, where she was constantly worried about being the good host. Like, it wasn't just... I don't think... of time. But it wasn't necessarily you ever got to that point of just like, you just became roommates, you know, type thing. It was still the, you're a guest in our house. That's how you felt. And she wants you to feel comfortable. And she's on edge making sure you feel comfortable that whole time type thing. And I pretty much felt comfortable. It was like, you know, it's like we're not required to do anything. Let's, you know, Monday, because we were so exhausted, we didn't do shit. Except take the dog for a walk, which was good, because Connecticut is absolutely beautiful, and she doesn't do it around her neighborhood. She goes and takes them on a trail, and it's just like, wow, look at all these trees and stuff. I wonder what it looks like in the fall, you know? And then it was, my gosh, I think we were, okay, her eating times are not mine. That's awesome. That's a great way to put it. Not mine. But she's like, but I want you to eat at some place that you can't get at home. Thank you. Because I'm here. And she goes, well, do you, you know, do you like seafood? I'm like, no. So lobster rolls around. I won't do that. You know? So it's like, she goes, well, have you had oven baked pizza? And I'm like, or stone baked, fire baked, fire cooked, whatever. And I'm like, well, no. And I said, well, let's have some pizza. And we went to a really good pizza joint. And it was really nice. And I'm just like, oh, okay. I didn't eat very much. She had a lot of leftovers. You never do. You never do. So as you talk about, because I think a lot of people wonder, what I would perceive as a misconception, because I had the misconception, not at this time, but I have in the past, of you forget that there's Not fucking much intimate about sleeping. Now, and I'm going to say this part because she told me this on the phone. She's like, yeah, because she's single and she's like, don't touch me. Sleep or I will swing. So, but I mean, you forget that. Let's face it. When you look at most couples, after the first, when everybody falls asleep, if you put in most bedrooms in the middle of the night and put on a couple's bed, it's not very fucking intimate about sleeping. It's just two people laying there. Honestly, I laughed because she has this king-size bed. I couldn't sleep worth a shit. But it also throws me for a loop because I'm sleeping on the side that Cole sleeps on. Well, I face the outside of the bed facing this way, and this time I'm facing the bed. I'm like, okay. And then a dog gets something wet, touches my nose. It's a dog. I'm like, oh. Good morning. Okay. But I looked over, and she's She sleeps on the very edge of the bed on her back. I'm like, wow, I sleep just like that. So I'm laughing going, oh, that's what I look like sleeping in the bed. But when she's out, she's out because she takes medications for that shit and she's out. But it is. It's still just sleeping. Yeah. And it's just like, okay, this is different. There's no soap opera. And I think that's the part, you know, we were all raised on shows like Dallas and Falcons Crest. and the soap operas and stuff that, you know, when they show the couple waking up that's cheated, you know, and they're like all cuddled up. It's like, nope, it's just like normal people sleeping in your bed, sleeping, sleeping. It is what it is. So one moment she takes sleeping medication and she blatantly said, I can take it and I can talk to you for an hour and I won't remember the conversation at all the next day. I'm like, okay. She tells me when she takes it. I'm like, okay. And I watch her and she's I'm like, okay, it's kicking in bed. Well, she comes over and she plants a big-ass kiss on me. And then she plops on the bed next to me. And nothing. And I lean over and I kind of try to cuddle with her. She's skin and bones. And I'm used to not skin and bones. Fat. She's used to fat is what she's trying to say. And I'm just like, oh. And I'm like, patting her side of her head. She's not moving. I'm like, oh, my God, is she alive? And I'm like, oh, she's just out. And I'm like, okay. I'm going to roll over this way. She'll eventually move to that side of the bed. It's all good. Oh, it was hilarious. I could do nothing but laugh. I'm just like, okay. And, okay, so the other funny thing is, even though now I want to talk about this, because we'd said you didn't, you were not, normally we talk to each other every day. Like when you go to the ranch or when you're going on shoots, we generally talk every day. And I had said, you know, obviously, absolutely not required. Not required. because they're sometimes interrupting that moment, those moments. You're there and can, as she said, one of her things we talked about at Exotic World War, she hates when people are on her phone. I mean, it's like be in the moment type of thing. But we did end up talking each day because she was doing other stuff, which is awesome because it shows how comfortable she was still, because she has a podcast, so she still, some appointments she had to do. So, you know, there was a comfort level. You weren't like, look, what do I do? I can't touch anything in our house, you know, or that. You know, I can't move because the dog's going to kill me. The dog's loving me. So there was a comfort level there. And we still pretty much talked every day because she gave you shit about it, which is fun. Y'all are just like little kids. And I'm like, little kids? Oh, you talk to each other every day? And I said, so is it weird that I've been texting them updates on what we're doing? She's like, what? And I said, yeah, I'm talking about, you know, we're taking the dog for a walk. We're doing this. She goes, oh my gosh, you really are like little kids. And I'm like, why? Because I'm sharing with him what I'm doing. But it just, what it shows is, is that there's a huge, everybody's different. And, but you're also doing it, but in a respectful way. And just like with her work, she still made sure she had some work she had to get done. But it wasn't at the cost of like, great, you're just sitting there bored all day long because she's busy working. Well, because it wasn't until... I'm like, what day did I leave? Wednesday. Wednesday, she had an interview with Miss Connecticut. And it's like, okay. And then I could hear her, and she was meeting with another gal that she does the podcast with. And they were talking. I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to go outside. I'm going to call Cole. And the funny thing is, the dog wanted to come out with me, so we sat on the deck and just talked to Cole while she was doing her thing. I'm like, I'm not going to interrupt you. You do your thing, and I'll just kind of mill around. I get the whole podcast. I'll be as quiet as I can be. You won't hear a thing. I should have fucking told me. Yeah, no. But so overall, I mean, as an experience, do you think that can you even use this experience to compare to what, say, an overnight experience would be or what where you had all the other... Like, you're not going to go for a walk. You know, if you were an overnight with somebody in Lincoln, well, you kind of know the town. You've been here for a few years. You know what I mean? Like, there would be a factor taken out of that because there is still your cross-country. So there's like the vacation part of it there. Do you think that an overnight, and say Omaha, that's a better example, an hour away, would, would this experience prepare you or... I mean, would it have... It'd be helpful in any way, shape, or form for another experience that was different? Or is this one so unique because of girl, because of... It's unique because A, it's not like local. B, not that... I don't think that that really has that much to do with it, but it does a little bit because you're still entertaining, so to speak. Right. And there's not a break away from each other. You're there for like several days. Right. Plus, that's not her personality. Right. She's not the, let's cuddle and let's hold hands and let's be that type of, she's not that type of person. But I don't, I don't. I just don't think it would be the same there compared to. Do you think a one that was like, again, using example, like an Oman hour away or a local, more local area would be just because of the fact that it is local, that it would be just like an extended regular hookup. Like it, it, the top priority would be sex where just this had the, the, Either way, right? But there was other things to do where if it was local, it's like, yeah, we're here to spend the night and we're going to fuck and sleep when we wake up. Well, you're here locally or even an hour away or even two hours away. You drive, you get there, either you're eating dinner or not eating dinner, you have sex, you fall asleep, you might have sex during the night. You know, you get up in the morning, have breakfast and go home. Right. I'm assuming I've never done one. Right. But this is different where you're there an extended period of time and you can't, you don't want, I don't know. I wouldn't think that it just isn't conducive for it. Right. No, I mean, no, it makes sense. But I don't think it would compare because I think, before I had an overnight with somebody here or somebody that I knew in a group or a swinger group, you know, It's about, where was I going with that thought? Damn it. I fucking hate it when I do that. It's more of an intimate thing. It's like, you know, that's what you're going for. It's more intimate. You're being all lovey-dovey and all that stuff where this was more, you know, you're already friends. You're going out there to spend time with friends. You have a lot of stuff to talk about. and a lot of stuff that you want to do. Right. And then. Sex is just an added. Sex is just an added benefit. Sex is like a tabbing to it. Right. Right. Do you think that as. Okay. Was there any. Because obviously. Just any feeling like that. Because this was your first. Female. I mean. You haven't even went on. Other than. Again. Other than shoots. Or like in. In a swinging. We're in the swinging situation. Whatever. You've never before went on a. date, hookup, bring with just another female. What would, has it changed? Would you do that? Would you be more apt? Would you be more apt now? I mean, at some point in time, we're just like with a guy that you're like, yo, you made a hotel and you fuck and you fuck for a couple hours. Would you want that as an experience with a female? Would I want the experience with a female just at a hotel? Yeah, just like, a hookup, but just instead of with a guy or with a couple, just, you know, think back to any... Petals. Great example, except not at work. Petals. You're going over to Petals' house. You're going to go meet Petals. You're going to go fuck. You know, rock on. You'll be home in a couple hours, whatever. Do you want... Is there a desire to have that experience? Because you've never had that with a female. Yeah. Before. Yeah. Okay, so it's a little bit awkward, so to speak, with a female versus a male. Because a male... What goes in where? No. A male, you know who's more dominant or who's going to be more dominant. Yeah, you, because usually you have to start it. Not necessarily, but you know that you can just walk up and start making out. When you have another female, it's like, okay, who makes the first move? Okay. Where she's got a very domineering personality, it's like, okay, you gonna make the first move? Am I gonna make the first move? Who's gonna make the first move? I don't know who's gonna make the first move. Right. You know? Right. Should I go make the first move? I don't know. Would she get offended if I make the first move? Oh, so basically, you get to understand what it feels like to have a dick and be a guy. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. That makes way more sense now. So one thing that we talked about before was, you know, I thought she was gonna be late. Right. I was late because of the plane. Right. So she wasn't late. No. Which was funny. She was about 20, 25 minutes early, actually. Okay. Well, but I told her and gave her an approximate when we'd arrived. Right. So she gauged it based upon that. Right. I said I'd probably have to give her the first kiss, which I didn't. She did. My. Okay. We got some good. Holding her back. Megan, I'm not it. I'm game for girls, but not making the first move. Laugh out loud. Rachel, yep, I can talk to guys. Most situations. No issue, but I'm totally shy to talk to another girl. Well, and it's difficult. I think that's funny because I've heard that from you before. Sometimes you go, okay, well, there's another girl. Well, is she really interested or not interested? Is she bi? Okay, so you establish that she's bi. Is she interested? Is she not interested? Okay. And even if they say, they go, well, were they saying that? Or were they really saying it? Again, congrats. Did they mean it? Did they not mean it? I don't know. Congratulations. Welcome to having a penis. So if I go up and I give them a kiss, are they going to be offended that I gave them a kiss? Or do I have to wait for them to make a move? And so you're just playing this little game of who's going to make the first move. Again, welcome to having a penis. Seriously. Now you get it. Because, see, I always think it's funny. You're like, oh, just go, she's far away. But when it comes to guys, you can absolutely, all day long. But you, when it comes to a girl, get all fucking JoJo the circus monkey. And so welcome to it. It's interesting because now you're seeing that perspective. See, I don't ever make the first move. Right. With a guy. With a girl. The guy, you do. I've watched you at a party go, fuck this, I'm going downstairs. Myself, I don't want to be too aggressive the first time in fear of pushing them away because I don't know. It's a true thing. You don't know. We all need to just have tags that say, fuck me. Yes. But no, but that's a valid point. And it is a challenge. But then when you have people that don't know how to easily, and I'm one of them, that don't know how to easily say, I'm not interested. Right. Because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. So, or crush them by any stretch. So it's like, okay, well, are they really interested? Are they not interested? Was that a cue? Was that not a cue? And so you're just like kind of tiptoeing going, I don't know. So it's easier just to let it go. Gotcha. So, okay. So overall, when you came back from the weekend, do you think, it was during the week, but time frame, was the experience overall, as in terms of being away, right? And going there for, and the whole whatever, was it, would you go, did you get on the plane? I know and kind of go not to start like thinking of this over but like it was kind of stressful not knowing you know what I mean and it's just kind of like you know you're able to relax more than it's like okay type thing because you know when you go in a regular hookup right if you go to hookup with somebody you go initially everybody's kind of nervous and then by the end everything's fine you've been fucking everything's good and it's not it's you know it just becomes like okay you know at least with with her. We have the same thought processes and a lot of stuff. We have quite a few things in common that we had a lot to talk about. She is one person I could be absolutely honest with and tell it like it is, and I don't care. Because she has such a, I can't say a rough personality. She has an East Coast personality. And she will just blatantly almost make you cry if you're not prepared. prepared for it. Just like she said something to me and I went, okay, I'm done talking for right now because ouch. But she just said it in her own way and I know that and I'm just like, okay. There's a huge difference between East Coast and Midwest. I'm like, I'm nice. You know, I'm just this little kid. You just totally whacked me upside the head, but okay. I hope she doesn't ever watch these. She would laugh. No, she wouldn't. She'd be like, what did I say to you? We're not going to go there. No, but that's an interesting thought process because, again, overall, through the whole thing, you know, we talked about it a little bit before. You're innocent, and granted, you knew her. I mean, obviously, we never were friends with her, whatever. But you're still in a situation where... you're kind of trapped, right? I mean, you're not. You're all adult. And I don't mean when she looks like, well, she felt trapped. No. You didn't feel trapped. But you could have felt trapped. Like, because everything in that environment is new to you, right? And so I think that's interesting because that would be, I think the odds of me being able to sleep very good on an actual overnight would be, be fucking nil because everything would be like different and okay and not that's good bad i think that's just human nature you know yeah as as far as as far as that goes well thanks man where birthday wish where where thanks you know a lot of people know that my spirituality in the metaphysical world is extremely high. I feel spirits. I feel energies. I feel all that. And certain areas of her house were extremely thick in this. And she understands all that so I could talk to her about it. Because she's like, well, everybody thinks right here is really heavy. I'm like, no, uh-uh, you're bad. I said, who had trouble breathing? And she goes, my mother. And I'm like, okay. I just want to make sure I wasn't going nuts. because I couldn't breathe. But, I mean, so you had those things which made it trickier, but at least I could talk to her about it. Right. Which was a deeper connection. Yeah. Do you think that your relationship with her, and when I say relationship, I mean, obviously we were friends first. Still are. Still, absolutely. But, I mean, do you think that this experience has deepened your friendship? and your connection, really. That connection with her. We'll see her in a couple weeks because she'll be in Orlando also. She's excited to see us again. Overall, do you think that's improved taking that friendship and that relationship and maybe made it a little bit deeper, a little bit leveled up, so to speak, whatever? Yeah, because we actually got time to know each other more. Right. Without me around, which can be quite honest. Her and Cole are fucking identical. It's like she's the female version of him. Right. Their thought processes, their love of technology, and I'm just like, your watch will tell you where your phone is. Well, I put it down. I can't ever find it. And I'm like, do you want your phone? It's right there. And she's just like, oh, thanks. And I'm just like. And that's one of the best things, though, that as a spouse, a lot of times, a spouse, I think a spouse never means to be necessarily in the way. But I think it's a natural thing that happens. I made her mad. Apparently, when people are struggling for a word and I want to give suggestions to help. help them find the word that they want. Oh, God. I got in trouble for doing that. And I owe her $1,000 for it because you know what? When she told me about it, I died laughing. I just start naming words in their thought process to maybe trigger what word they're looking for. And apparently she just goes, I just kind of looked at her and said, I'm sorry. And she goes, stop doing that. I'm like, I don't mean to. And she goes, you just prolong me finding the word I want. I'm like, oh. I'm going to give her the biggest hug when I see her in Orlando. Because it's so funny, because she gets to say the shit that I've thought it. Because when you were telling me that, I'm just like, oh, be damned, you don't say. Okay, would you be more willing to do this again with someone you don't know quite as well now that you've experienced it? Possibly. Because to me, I think it's different going and doing an overnight at a female's house versus a male. Yeah. Because I know that would be a different process to work through. Not that it can happen. And I can't. But see, that's probably, it's not wrong. There's not a right one. I hate that because you're right. And the reason I hate that is that's not fair. Because you wouldn't have the problem with a female. So if it was a guy that I was going to see, but at least, you know, you didn't met her before. If it was a guy that I knew. So if we're going to see one of our friends, you're going to see a guy that just, because we've got guys in our world just like her, the equivalent of her, but a guy. Would I be okay with that? So knowing that, Larry, I'm going to pick on you now because you asked it. Okay. So if Brenda was out of town and Larry said, hey, come spend the night, how would you feel about that? I wouldn't have a problem with it. Wait, no, that's not an honest answer. I was going to say, besides the fact that you're like really good buddies with Larry. No, no, that's not an honest answer because it would be, I wouldn't have a problem with it because like it's Larry, right? And we are like, we're bros, right? So it's all the way through. I know that, you know, he's got a solid married. I know there's, I know what it is all the way through. Even knowing what it is, I think it would be a lie to, it'd be easy for me to sit here and say right now, it'd be like, no big deal. Whoopity doo. But knowing how I am as a person, there would be a part of me that would probably be like, I would have to remind myself, Honestly, and go, okay, now wait a minute. This is Larry. What are you doing? Because there's some people I know you'd be okay with. And I know that for a fact. But there would still be that little part of me going, I would have to remind myself of it. What if I was at the ranch and someone wanted to do an overnight? That'd be easy for me. Because money's involved? The sex part of it would be an easy one for me because that's business. Now, that's not going to mean I'm not going to tell you and make sure that you have your phone tracker on so that... You have to at the branch. Well, but I would want to, because the safety factor is still going to be there, but it's money. Right. So to me, that absolutely. But I think that, which is just as fucked up to a degree, but I think that If you ask me the Larry scenario, ask me, and you've done it three or four times, or three or four times down the road of having done this, do I think I'd reach one more time? Yeah, whatever. Okay, but let me ask you this. If I were to go three or four hours away and stayed in a hotel, but I was there for a guy, but I stayed in a hotel, would you be okay with that? I'd be fine with that. I'd be all right with that. And honestly, I think, Larry, I'd be okay. I think he'd be okay with it regardless. It's just a process to work through. What it is, is that when there are certain people that the communication is strong, which is like, hey, I'm on the same page, you're on the same page, we're all on the same page. I think that anything in any relationship is, once anybody starts to assume, there's a problem. It's like, hey, I would want to, with another guy, I'd want to get on the phone with Larry and I'd be like, hey, I want you to know, have fun, totally cool with this. Because here's my thing, I think if we had that guy-to-guy brief conversation, this way I know that I'm not fucking up you guys' night from a distance because we're friends and he's going, oh, I hope he's really okay with it. Because that's not cool. And by the same token, that I can be like, yeah, Rock Hunt, I'm doing my thing. Like we, you have that connection. If it was somebody that I had never met, let's say it's a guy that you met at the ranch. And then, and then you, you know, he was also a swinger. I don't know. I don't know. You know, it's just somebody, somebody I never had that, that I never met. The husband in me, and I'm a protector by nature anyways. The husband in me is going to take, and I'm going to fucking bubble up. And that is very animalistic. That's very, uh, to a degree caveman and Neanderthalic, you know, right. And it's not, uh, it's, it's not because honestly that you're a grown-up, you can't take care of yourself, but it's like when we walked in Vegas, this is the best example. And, and I kept switching sides with you because of the crackheads and you go, what? And I said, there's going to reach a point in time in your lives where the only thing I'm going to be able to do to to stop somebody from getting to you, is slow them down so you can get away. That's just who I am. But if we're talking, if we're on the same page, no, I think I would be totally okay with it. Okay. So how many times did you mind fuck yourself when I was gone? I actually didn't. I actually, one time you had called me and I actually, I felt that I'm like, fuck, don't worry about, don't worry about me. Like, I was concerned that you were maybe missing, you know, like, well, here, I got to stop and talk to fucking Cole. It's like, I'm not, I don't want to be, I don't want to be your ball and chain. Because ultimately, the grand thing is, I want you to live your best life. Right? And what I have to have had to learn, full disclosure, right? I don't guarantee this, somebody could fucking probably go, yep, sure is, he's a dick. But there was a time in the last, we'll say, three years, that I've spent a lot of money learning that and learning how to be better at communicating my concerns, my fears, my expectations. Because ultimately, that's really the whole thing. The whole thing on a comfort level is communicate. So it doesn't matter if If it's Larry who, you know, you guys have fucked and we're super close, right? Or somebody at the ranch or her in Leanne in Connecticut, what I learned is if we don't communicate, then that's a me problem. If I don't say, hey, here's the situation, here's how I feel, and we talk it through, and that's not how we function. If we talk, I'm 100% good. And that's, you know, that's a huge one with me. That's... I'm fearful of any interaction with a potential lover who does not have an established foundation of safety for themselves and shared the responsibility of maintaining that with me, meaning they absolutely have to remind me that they feel safe. See, and I think right there, and I think that, kind of like that perfectly said, because I think, again, So that... So we'll use Carnell as an example. So that if the situation was with you and him and me, it's not fair to him to have to have him sitting there at the time that you guys are spending together going, I really hope that Cole's okay with this. I hope I'm just not pissing Cole off. Okay, that's not okay. It's not okay for you to have in the back of your mind going, I really fucking hope Cole's okay with this. I hope this is alright. Because then you two are not spending quality time together. You're both there, but you're both somewhere else. And by the same token, it's not okay for me to be back here going, this is bullshit, they're doing this, oh my god, oh my god, and get myself JoJo the circus monkey. When the reality is, the whole thing, as I had to learn, I keep putting that for total transparency, as I had to learn, because I didn't do that before, is about... talking about it. And maybe the three of us talking about it. So that everybody walks away. Rock on. And then the time that you guys are spending together is quality time. For both of you. The time that whatever I'm doing here is quality time. Because for me. And then it's all good. And it. But fuck communicate. That's why I wanted to do this. Because again I think people think. We don't have some deep conversation. before you do a porn shoot. I'm like, hey, is your phone? Half the time, I'm playing my phone while you guys are doing paperwork. I've shook his hand or her hand said, hey, how's it going? Whatever. And kind of what we're doing. And then the dick's out and they're shocking the dick. Because that's porn. But I think it's important people understand is, again, in real life, that's not how we operate. And I caution anybody, if you're thinking about doing this, for the love of God, communicate. And if you don't, okay, so I'm taking credit. Derica, thank you very much. That's my therapist. If you don't feel comfortable having the conversation with the other people involved, then the answer is you're not ready for it, and you need to tell somebody that. You need to say, I can't handle it. Even if you can't verbalize why, you need to tell people you can't have it, or you have to be able to have the conversation. I wish if I could go back in time, the one thing that I would change is that I wish I would have had the courage to verbalize intelligently. Because that's the other part of this is like the conversation has to be intelligent and has to be honest. Because if it's not, what happens is it turns into the conversation that should have happened at point A. If it happens at point C, goes from a conversation to a yelling match. And hurt feelings and everything else. And then that leads to point D, which is overcompensation to try and make each other, you know, forgive, which leads to point E, which is another miscommunication, and the pattern repeats. That's, that's, I don't know if that answers that question. It's kind of long-winded. Sorry. It's your fucking show. That's not my show. That was longer, but we're out of time, too. I don't know. So, overall, I think I'm glad you did it. I'm glad I did it. And at some point in time, you know, we're going to try, hopefully, hopefully, if you get a chance to listen to Leanne's show, it's awesome. If you ever see us at Exotica, she's usually hanging out with us. So whatever, and hopefully we'll get her to crazy on her nights and whatever, because she's super cool gal and whatever. So hopefully, I don't know, a two-part show. It's kind of weird. I know. Now look at us eight years in and broadening our fucking horizon. Woo! First time for everything! Holy shit, alright. With that being said, kids, again, a huge shout out to our friends at Smoking Meats Barbecue Treats for the ribs. Keep feeding the fat, kid. Just saying. By the way, it's okay because I lose weight when I eat lots of protein. So I need more ribs. Yeah, I don't want to eat meat off a bone. Yeah, I'll show you the bone. I've seen it. Anyways, also, asnlifestylemagazine.com. Hopefully later this week you'll see some updates as we wing on all kinds of trophies. the most decorated ASN people ever. Just saying. That's a true fact. MotorBuddy.com. Quality products. Quality name that you can trust. Discreetand30CO.com. Check it out. Get some cool shirts made. If you need ideas, Larry, if you reach out to Larry on our website, Larry and Brenda, they keep a tab as well. Cool shirt ideas that you can get. And finally, BasisDX. Seriously, you know, we cracked a joke about it, but it's really true. Testing is so damn important in the lifestyle. A lot of things can be solved with a It's a simple test. It's cost effective. It's easy. It's in your home. It's convenient. Like seriously, you don't have to have doctors involved. Please, please take care of yourself. BasisDx or the Pro 13 like we use for porn. With that being said, kids, follow Miss Min and all of her cool stuff because she does have new videos dropping coming very, very soon. So check those out. Hopefully we'll see a lot of you at crazy summer nights. This weekend. This weekend. I've been cooking like crazy. Yeah, we got cookies up the wazoo. Oh my gosh. Today was a disaster. That's what makes it all fuckin' an event. With that being said, do it the only way I know how, the only way I want to, and the only way I ever fuckin' will. Casbah Style, out.

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