Krazy Truth about Swinging #322 Flirting as a Fossil

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hey kids the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations adult language themes and other adult topics if you're easily offended this show's not for you you crazy motherfuckers welcome back to another edition of fucking crazy truth about swinging uh i'm your host with most cole i'm'm here with the lovely, lovely Miss Amanda. Hi. It's not hi. It's eight fucking years. Say the line. God damn it. We can't change now. I can't be different just once. You can. Yes, no, you can't. I'm just fucking with you. Anywho, so this is season fucking, season eight, episode 322. There we go.

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Sweet. So there we go. Shwoo. While I got started, behind, but we're here. Eh, not that bad. Kind of. We were eight minutes. Let's see. 48 hours plus eight is, we were 56 hours behind. So not too bad. So, yeah here Oh yes, Courtney That's what I love why we do is find our live secret Facebook group Casbah Inc. Courtney remember says Don't forget about calendars Especially when he has them right here in front of him That's right, both Miss Amanda's 2025 version Or Cole's 2025 version Nobody cares about So you want to get to get those. They will be at Crazy Winter Nights.

Also, you'll be able to get. We will. And the calendars will, too. You can get a calendar there. You can also get autographed pictures at Crazy Winter Nights of you. We'll have those also. Piece of candy. Piece of candy. We'll have those also that you'll be there signing and stuff. So that'll be pretty cool. So you can get a calendar and get it signed because you'll be there. Or we have some other pictures of you. I'm just freaking excited. My dress came yesterday. Right. Yeah. Your dress is hot. What do you want? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It is hot. I don't know how much you want to know.

How much do we want to give away? I didn't think I was going to show up. We still have 35 days. It seems like an eternity unless you're putting the event on. Yeah, but I have to alter it. If you make that slit any higher, that slit will tie in with your other slit. And then it'll be slit central. It wasn't that high. It's sexy. No, your dress looks really good. Now I have to hem my white.

Is it going to look good with my all blacked out tuxedo that i have to go right now you have to go right i haven't done that's on my you need to go get and this week's almost over so i gotta go over this weekend again which would be tomorrow and go get my tuxedo running for this little shindig it's my first time going to kwe on i'm so excited yeah god uh so hey so let's actually take a minute we're going to talk about something real quick first and foremost here that has been, obviously, that has just run rampant in the swinger and the adult community because of an event around New Year's time that happened.

Okay. It's been all over Facebook, both vanilla Facebook pages. It's in the swinger world. Apparently, I forget where it was at. It it doesn't really matter there was a swinger party that was held like the 28th or 29th yeah it was in minnesota and uh so the the which is it was a hotel takeover the interesting part of this is the fact that they found two dead bodies uh in one of the rooms three days later that were guests of the of the sw. And it's been this huge thing. Why they waited three days to clean that room? Yeah, I mean, it was an overdose. It was a fentanyl overdose. Lack of staff.

Yeah, I mean, it was a fentanyl overdose. And so the big thing was that the hotel was cooperating and they wanted to make sure to see a guest list and to see who all was supposed to be there. They cooper that was the media that wanted to see the guest list it's like fuck you media doesn't need the guest list need the police yes media no yeah so it was like it was like uh okay you know so it's like okay great so no big deal uh but there's been a huge panic and we actually had some people reaching out, groups that like to copy us, actually. Well, what are you guys doing to tackle this problem?

One, there's nothing we can do. And so, but here's what I will say about this. A couple of things that stick out. One, yes, the bodies were not discovered for three days. Three days. What kind of hotel are they having? I mean, well, I can tell you what I'm talking about. They're in a typical hotel that swinger parties happen at, which is a lot of times less nice hotels, that they haven't cleaned the room for three fucking days. That kind of speaks volumes. Just saying.

Okay, so even the place that we had ours at last year, KWN, the next day they were knocking on doors just to make sure you left. Yeah, just to make sure you were getting the fuck out so you weren't trying to stay extra time. And then they opened the door to make sure you left. Did they have enough employees to clean it? No. No, but they were making sure that you were out the fucking door, Jack. It's funny because there's been like this, well, what can you do about it? Well, honestly, there's not a lot of event coordinator you can do about it.

Well, okay, so they're like, well, we don't condone drugs at our party. Right. You can't help what people bring in. No. Until you start bringing dogs running through there, it is what it is. There's nothing you're going to be able to do about it, seriously. But that goes back to why we do the safe tables, because you can't just assume everybody is going to be behaving. But the word of caution, what I say is the big part about this, is if you are at a swingers event and you know someone's bringing in illicit drugs, one, you should let the coordinators know.

Because no swinger party of any credibility encourages or is okay with non-legal drugs, illegal drugs being a therapist. They're just not. But, you know, old people, we tend to forget shit. We tend to think we're invincible.

We think we can relive shit you know there's a lot of bad shit out there and uh yeah you know smoking party is part of the great part of smoking party is you're meeting new people which is awesome right and that's that you want to but by the same token you have to be a little smart and a little intelligent and you know maybe if you don't know somebody maybe you don't take free drinks from them. Don't take the slug out of their, drink out of their glass. It's why we have nightcaps and safe tables for a roofie, and maybe you don't take the old hit of the weed that you don't know anything about.

Just saying. It's a way to do it, and here's the other part of it. This is where the event plan, the other thing that stuck out to me in this. You know what? I'm going to guess, and I don't know. This is totally, totally an assumption on my part. I'm going to guess that these two people, it probably wasn't their first time they ever did something like this. And I'm going to guess that somebody knew they did this kind of stuff. and so as an event planner, that's why we need to know so we can keep that sort of element out of the lifestyle if at all possible.

But to me, it's just the thing of this is why you still have to be careful. And I think as old people, because you're going to find this year that a lot of our series this year, a lot of the shows, is going to be talking about kind of things our age range in the swinger community. And this is where, you know, well, back when I was in college, I did this. You're not in college anymore. Things have changed. This drop's massive. Look, they weren't putting fentanyl in weed when I was in college. They weren't putting fentanyl in coke when I was in college.

So, you know, there's a lot of things that have changed through those years. How would you know? There's a lot of things that have changed through there. And so sometimes it's like, you know, you got to like keep that in mind. Plus, remember, here's one to grow on. My body's went through a lot more fucking shit and more abuses over the last 30 years.

So what would have been fun easy no big deal thing to do when i was 20 like maybe a bump of coke wouldn't have been such a big deal at 52 well that could be a totally different ball game and you want to keep that in mind so you need to be a little bit smarter on how you do things but you got to keep i was one of those paranoid people that never wanted to try it because i was afraid i'd become addicted from the get-go. Right, and that's why you're smarter than you have. So, you know, I was never addicted, but that's why you're smarter than I am. I don't know. I was just afraid of doing it.

The thing is, is it shows that you have to, but you have to be careful. And the other thing, the other thing that stuck out to me with it was somebody else knew this couple. Somebody else at that event probably knew those people.

with them whatever check on your friends well the thing is is that there was it like the guy's car was at the place at the hotel yeah and it was like to the hotel didn't realize there was a car that had been sitting out there for three days this hotel would not be one i would stay at for any reason just saying i don't even know which one it was i don't know it really doesn't matter but it was just like really yeah they didn't know no so it's just something and it was like a family member that reached out because wanted a wellness check because they hadn't come home yeah so my thing is just be be careful but like i said we had a couple people reach out we had a person that used to be in our group reach out.

What are you guys doing to our event coordinator? And it's like, look, until we start running the sniffing dogs at events, which nobody wants, you know, there's not a lot. And my thing is, no judgment. You do what you do. I'm not going to say shit. We're not going to encourage it. Be careful, but we're not going to encourage it. And if we know you're doing a CASM event, we'll kick your ass out, but that's just beside the point. That's just saying. So, it is what it is. So, at least we talked about it. That was the hot topic. It's like, we have to at least mention it. Yeah.

We have to at least mention it. So, onward and upward. Okay, so, like I said, one of our goals is to start talking about that. Look, in eight years, we've covered a whole lot of shit for the newbies, you know, swingers, whatever. But there's a lot of things that you start to do now or that you deal with now after having been in it for a lot of years like we have. Definitely a different age range than when we started, right? So there's different challenges, right? And that's – you all right? Do you have somewhere to go?

No no it's time to stand oh okay well feel free my phone went off i but we'll feel free i looked up i'm like well no one's messaged me so i need to stand and i'm good no your watch told you i don't argue with what will apple do if you argue with apple it It's told me that I need to stand when I'm standing so it can fuck off. Apple needs to work on that. Bastard. All right. So, yeah. So, has anybody noticed that the live is coming from my account? Why is this? Because someone's on Facebook. Because someone posted a wrong thing a year and a half. No, 2023. Yeah, almost two years ago.

Yeah, I posted something on my name, the busman. And it was like, okay. So I got to do the live. Yeah, so until February 7th, she's in charge. And that was the day it came out about Zuckerberg was going to be better about not doing fat checking. Yeah, but they still have the bots because he's still a dick suck. So anyways, whatever works. He's not bitter at all. Nope, not in the least. Can't use marketplace. He's a cock sucking motherfucker. So there you go. That's alright.

So I want to talk about something that is and this is going to be fun because even like just listening right now live, we've got all age ranges of the show right and i have no idea what he's gonna bring up and we do stuff with all adrian so we we were shooting content saturday night we went to a meet and greet you were getting sick you didn't know it i just didn't get sick until i'm just i'm just fucking with him because i't. Anyways, but we were shooting content. And it's so funny because the typical question came up as we're all sitting on talking of, well, how old do you think I am?

I was like, how old are you? Yeah, how old are you? Because the age ranges of that group was, I think, like 42 maybe was the youngest. I didn't hear her age. Well, I can't look it up. It's on my phone. Yeah, it's on your phone. Early 40s. And then Elle Meat was 55. But it got me thinking. And you think about when we first got in the lifestyle, right?

first got lifestyle we were late 30s early 40s early 40s yeah and and uh so the thing was then we we were kind of that mid-range stuff you know we we there were people we were playing with that were 10 years older than we were obviously obviously, and people that were more than 10 years younger than we were, whatever. So we were kind of in that mid-range. And it's a shift now because now we're kind of more the older folks.

and what makes it like for us which is a really unique situation is how much how much the age factor or the look of the age factor does or doesn't play because makes it like for us which is a really unique situation is how much how much the age factor or the look of the age factor does or doesn't play in because you don't look your age i do i i look my age plus and we and i always have right even even back then you know people were like saying well you're probably 50 when i was like 40 so and it's funny because there was still a, not an awkwardness, but it was kind of funny as you're going around the room asking how old people everybody thought each other was.

And it's like that's an actual factor now, and I think that plays in. i remember when we first started and having discussions about how old people were put your phone down no you do this every fucking show don't even i don't i play games i don't exactly you i don't message people i'm working fuck off anyways okay so you remember yes no but i remember like one couple was like 152 and it's to like, oh, okay, now I'm in the same. Fuck off. Anyways, okay, so you remember, yes. No, but I remember, like, one couple was like, I'm 52, and it's like, oh, okay, I'm not anybody that old, but okay.

Yeah, and now we're getting, well, exactly. Exactly. And then there's one, I'm 23, and we're like, oh, okay. Yeah, I remember that. And then there's another group that we're like, oh, we're like in our mid-30s. We're like, oh, okay. So the part that I want to touch on, though, is how that changes Here we go. And there's the other group that we're like, oh, we're like in our mid-30s. We're like, oh, okay. So the part that I want to touch on, though, is how that changes. It changes the dynamics of how we swing, I believe. It changes it a little bit because you are the ones now.

I'm going to sneeze. That was a yawn, too. I was going to to say I've known you 32 years and I've never heard see you sneeze at you they couldn't see that, fuck off they all know what you're doing, we've been doing this for 8 years if you're swallowing your fist, either your fist in your throat or you're fucking yawning now it's got tonsillitis, it doesn't really hurt does it change how you, how we swing a little bit? Because now, there was a time when we first started, it's like, you were hesitant. There was a couple that we hooked up with, and you were hesitant because he was like 58. Okay.

Remember that? No, he wasn't quite 58. He was like 53-ish. No, he was not 53. No, he was not. He was closer because we were at the bar that we used to go to when he turned 60. So, no, he was not 53. He was like at minimum 56. 56, 57 years old. Anyways, and at the time. Seriously? I will go on Facebook and look at the next one. At the time? At the time, it was a big deal to you. We were hesitant because of his age to hook up with him. Okay. Which is, again, it's not a judgment thing on you.

It just at that time because we were relatively new and that was way older than anything you had you had tapped right right just like you always had this fucking stilly hang up with them being too young i on the other hand had no problem with it bring it on uh anyways but it's just weird now because that same girl that that was 22 when the first time we hooked up with her and hooked up with them. She was 23, 24. Anyway, go on. Or 23, 24. She was 28. She was 28 years old the first time. And now, 12 years later, she's 33. Anyways, so, but I never had that issue.

I never had a problem with that at all that was never a thing you were like not young not they can't be younger they're the same age as my kids and I was like I don't care but by the same token you had the older range was somewhat not the same type of issue but was an issue issue for you. Would you agree? Yeah, to a degree. So, so. You didn't turn the guy away. No, but it took a little bit to get you down the path. Okay. Well, I mean, if you don't agree, say, no, I don't agree at all. I just made it. I don't remember. Okay. That was a long time ago.

See, so the first thing that happens when you start swimming with an old, you don't remember a fucking thing that happened to you when you first started swimming with an old kid. Thank you. I can't remember. Okay. That was a long time ago. God. See, so the first thing that happens when you start swimming with an old, you don't remember a fucking thing that happened to you when you first started swimming. Shit, I can't remember what I did yesterday. You don't need to remember what you did yesterday. What you did yesterday was not near as much fun. And I can tell you what you did.

You laid around and didn't do shit because you were sick. It wasn't near as much fun as the shit we did with them years ago. True. Now I know why your watch is making you stand up. It's to help you stay awake, pumpkin. So the thing, the part of that is that how much, what I'd love to hear from other people as well, how much of a factor does that play in now that if you start a business a while that you're the older people now? How does that affect you? I don't know. I guess it depends on the people you're hooking up with. Okay really funny. Okay. How does it affect you?

And for you to go out in a swinger situation, how does it affect you? I've always done younger. Not always. That time you didn't. That's a couple times you didn't. But, yeah, yes, you have. So. Majority of the hookups I've had have been younger. Does it change how you approach a situation? What, me being older? Yes.

No, do you have okay do you have yeah which is you don't so ta-da there you go never mind it was a great show and i really appreciate it it was awesome i thank everybody for coming in no okay so let's look instead with guys with girls does it does it change does it change how you does it change how you um approach with females not with guys because guys we know that you're like whatever and since you start shooting their age change how i treat a female how does it how does your age affect your willingness to flirt or hit on females.

And so for a backstory, the reason why I'm saying this is that with guys, especially now that since you've started shooting content, like younger really doesn't matter anymore. You're over that hurdle, whatever the case may be. So with a female, would it affect, would you still be willing, if I could actually get you to do it, would you be willing to hit on a 20-something or a 30-something-year-old girl? Most likely, yes. And I say most likely because it wouldn't have anything to do with age. It would have to do with looks. Okay, so she's a hard body.

I would not go up to him because I'd be afraid. What would it take? What if it was a 50-year-old hard body? I still would have a hard time. We've seen this.

Have we not seen this with a 55 year old Yes And she was just as fucking Painting the ass back Which is ironic But She kissed me So what She did Was I there Yes you were there Was I there No I don't think I remember that more It wasn't like a big make out kiss Oh well that's why That doesn't matter It was some sort of peck thing I said oh you missed it And you go no I didn't No that was some sort of peck thing That doesn't count So I don't matter. It was some sort of peck thing. I said, oh, you missed it. And you go, no, I didn't. No, that was some sort of peck thing. That doesn't count.

So, God. So. Have you ever known me to be an over-the-top flirt? Yes. You can. You can. Yes. I have actually seen you flirt. It's been years, but I have seen you flirt Okay Do you flirt, do you even, okay, let's go your subtle flirting Do you flirt more or less now that you're older? I don't know, probably about the same Apparently you don't agree Well, maybe.

I mean, I don't know probably about the same apparently you don't agree well maybe i mean i don't know well i'm asking it's not like a right or wrong thing i'm that's why i'm asking give me a close make sure we're not missing comments yes i know you hate not having a mouse uh i'm just trying i'm just trying to figure it out i'm just trying to ask Because that's like That's a This was a really good idea And a really good plan with this And we are derailing it totally Well no because I don't know what I think I do and what you think I do Are two totally different things I can't talk obviously What about you do you flirt more now or did you flirt more back then?

I already know the answer to that. Back then, but I was sober. I wasn't sober. Well, you've been drunk now. Would you do it? No. And it's a horrible thing because there's two reasons why I wouldn't. One, because I am more self-conscious of my age. I mean, amongst a myriad of other things, but I am more self-conscious of my age. I mean, amongst a myriad of other things, but I am more self-conscious of my age. Absolutely.

And it's weird because as a social and outgoing as I am, when I get around people I don't know, I tend to be pretty quiet, which people don't understand but that's the way i so so uh but my age has affected how i would flirt because i absolutely don't have the same level of confidence to flirt with a 30 somethingsomething that I would have. I had no problem flirting with somebody older when I was in my 40s. Not just because of booze. But old people like attention. They like to feel special. It is what it is. So I could justify it that way, and I could flirt.

That's why you have the hots for the nurses, because you want them to take care of your old ass. Pretty much. I could justify it that way, and I could flirt. That's why you have the hots for the nurses, because you want them to take care of your old ass. Pretty much. I could flirt with them. And people that were my own age, I had no fear. And super younger, no, because I didn't flirt a lot with the super young ones because I knew at that time, remember, we didn't play alone back then, right?

And I knew that if there was a 20-something-year-old couple, it wasn't going to happen because you weren't going to be okay with a 20-something-year-old guy. How many 20-something-year-old couples did we see? What, at places? Yeah. They were all over the place. There were 20 and 30-something couples. But if they the age of the kids that was a hard that was a hard no for you which is totally alright that was totally acceptable but it so I didn't worry about that demographic I mean I was friendly and typical me but I didn't worry about that demographic at all, right?

So, but it's, I've gotten, yeah, it's absolutely affected me. It's absolutely affected me. I can't get you to flirt anymore, so I don't even know. I mean, you-ish, kind of, but I don't know. I think other people see you, that you flirt a little even then it's more of it's more of it's just different but you gotta think back seriously when was the last time we fucking spore fucked I mean it's been fucking years so I mean it's one of those things. But I think the joke is I crack a lot of jokes, like in front of groups, right, about daddy issues and shit like that.

That's kind of my roundabout way to flirt. That's the way I go back to feel it out, to try to feel out if there's somebody that i can fucking maybe go and flirt with like you know you crack the jokes yeah you know i'm the one to go to the bar and you know who's got daddy issues and you know that kind of shit and you get somebody goes i love older men or i you know something like that gray hair is sexy then i'm i'm it's like hedging i want to fuck santa close yeah yeah it's like well it's like hedging it's like hedging my bets. I don't want to fuck Santa Claus.

Yeah, it's like, well, it's like hedging my bets. It's making sure that I don't walk up to somebody who absolutely has no interest in older guys, which is totally acceptable. I mean, you know. Yeah. Because I don't have that courage. I lacked that from when I was younger. Mm-hmm. I already knew the answer. I already knew the answer.

already knew the answer head in help me a little bit i'm trying to deal with this older seminar session concepts because i think it's stuff that people actually a lot of people actually deal with right and so i always thought i sucked at flirting no no i'm a smart ass no you're no stop no you're not when you're out when you're out with people no you're not when initially until usually if you first meet somebody you may drop some really really soft smart ass comment like not really at Smart NextCon with some really, really soft, smart-ass comment. Like, not really a smart-ass comment.

Some really soft, smart-ass comment. And it'll be like, oh, but I'm a real smart-ass. Right? You don't go fucking smart-ass mode. Because I don't want to offend people. Right. And so you don't go. You do not go hardcore at all. And yes, you do. Everybody, you are, you flirt, totally flirt. And people love it. The cute little giggles and the smiles and all the nine yards, the whole things. Yes, you absolutely are a huge flirt. And you're a much better flirt than I am. And you always have been.

That's why if you're not flirting, if you're just sitting sitting quiet it totally fucks shit up and that yeah right there it is Amanda is so sweet that's that's the the way giggle and laugh and that's yep that is exactly how you flirt always I don't know how you don't know that you flirt probably the same way you don't know when people are flirting with you. No, no. That's different. It's completely different to be clueless if someone's flirting with you than to know what you're doing. I always say I flirt with pictures because it's easier to send a picture than it is to send something.

Okay, but when you're out and talking to people in person you know so they're just showing pictures you talk i could that'd be way easier it is the life of the party how am i the life of the party you're the freaking life of the party that's just it no i'm not that's the whole thing that you i just dance around exactly the part that you've missed through the years is that you have more sway at our events than I do I'm the dude standing around the fire and everybody's listening to my story. And I get people listening to the story, but you're the one. It is the story.

It's like this big huge comedy routine and you have millions of people just floating around you to hear it. But that's just it. They're just in their engage, but then they float off. People get with you, and you are doing that. You're laughing, and you're dancing around, and you're whatever. You have the... You easily are able to pull people. If I'm just doing what I do, right, you can pull people out of that to go hang with you. Easy.

Watch you do it and years you are the life of the party uh i don't need to wear a sign that says tell me if you're flirting with me i understand i just assume everybody's being nice to me what i find is as i get older i use that more and more because and as I've watched you as we've gotten older, you become more and more and more outgoing. I have not. I have more and more reservations and more reserved.

I don't think I could have got more closed off when we started because I wasn't overly social but you actually were you weren't overly social but you would sit there and you would start you would you would once you started talking you're okay what's what's uh um i've had i've missed uh connections because i can mind fuck myself into thinking she's not interested because i'm too old did it to myself absolutely all the time i saw a man to pull someone out of the corner last year at kw and had them dancing with her because if i see somebody bopping i'm gonna grab them and i'm gonna force them to dance right and but that but that's just it you've always been like that and here's the other is to get them to have fun here's the other We'll see you next time.

bopping i'm gonna grab them and i'm gonna force them to dance right and but that but that's just it you've always been like that and here's the other way is to get them to have fun here's the other way that that you're you're bullshit of oh i'm quiet i'm quiet i don't talk to people and you're the social one because back in the day if you think back okay i'm giving you a minute to actually wind up to think back there that That might be hard to do. You think back.

Usually, I'm off macking on somebody, which leaves you and whoever else and the other people at the table, you to entertain the people. And that was more times than not. That was more times than not. So what was always funny is that you always talked about that, you know, I was the outgoing one. You actually carry 99% of the conversations and you've done it all the way through on our events and everything else. Look at porn. Look at porn right now. Okay, wait, wait, let's back up. House party. Everybody's going around babbling forever today. Every day.

Yamper about their fucking while they're there. Yip. And you're like, all right, I'm going downstairs, and you're taking your shirt off, and you start the party. That was one time, and I was drunk. Every time, you have notoriously been the one to start the party, you have been all the way through. And it's been at our events. When we go to shoots now, it's so funny because we've done enough of these now that I've watched other people. You're like doing the paperwork. Strip. Let's go. You're making it. Let's go. At KDSN. Let's go. You're good. And that's you.

And I can't't do that never have been able to you've always said well you do all 40 which i sometimes wonder in as as we traverse the waters of being older and and swinging and trying to figure this part of it out because it's different now, if that's part of the problem, right? Because you never believed that you were, or that you're Casbah, you're the one that came to see. You never understood how much you actually controlled and how much what they want to see with.

And as I have more issues because I am older and all the other things I'm trying to figure out, it's just like, it's just stalled us. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, seriously. But you think about it. These people have no reason to lie. They don't have any reason to suck up to you to tell you if that's not true. True. Could you flirt with somebody younger now? Could you go flirt with a 20-something-year-old couple now? I could flirt with anybody. Doesn't mean anything. Okay, pretend for a minute that we were actually still fucking swingers and you actually wanted to fuck.

you flirt and close the deal on a 20 something year old couple because it's funny you can't close it I don't know you can't close the deal on a woman to save your life because you won't try but every guy I believe that you could easily because you're the best of all worlds you don't look like a milf but you're old enough to be a gilf and so fuck yeah I mean it's probably going to take one for the team with old and fatty over here but that's beside the point I don't look like a MILF, but you're old enough to be a GILF, and so we're going to say, fuck yeah.

I mean, it's probably going to take one for the team with old and fatty over here, but that's beside the point. So, you know, could you do it now? Could you the challenge is, could you flirt with a guy? Yeah, you could close the deal with a guy, but could you close it with a girl? I don't know. I'm horrible at closing anything. That is so funny because, no, you're not. Oh, my fucking God. I'm going to go up to somebody and say you want to fuck. No, you don't. Okay, you don't. That's not your style to walk up and say you want to fuck. But you close shit in a different way.

Not everybody who walks up can walk up and say that's not your style walk up and say you want to fuck but you close shit in a different way not everybody walks up can walk up and say that not everybody can walk up and say hey you want to fuck that takes a level of fucking like super confidence that that I mean I can't do that I wish I could I have one guy do that to me yeah Did you fuck him? Yeah. Why? Because he fucking walked up and asked. That's like the ultimate thing to be able to do that. That is the ultimate thing to be able to fucking do that. Yeah. But it's like, you know, I mean...

Does wearing certain clothing give you more confidence? Not anymore. Because Patrick says that wearing a kilt gives him more confidence. And that's awesome. It used to. It used to, but wearing that same outfit doesn't. Okay. So the old person, old male swinging problems, so it used to because uh i could hide behind it right so it hid my or in my mind okay who knows if it really did or not but in my mind it it made i could i look big but big, but not, you know, I didn't look fat. I looked, you know, so it kind of, I could hide behind it, right?

And I could have that, a certain look and whatever, like right now, honestly, it's one of the hardest things for me right now because I did do that a lot. Clothes were a big thing for me through the years because I, you know, think about it. But you wore it Friday and you had way more confidence and stuff. Friday was a totally different mindset. Okay. Friday was finding that mindset at a certain place in my brain. Okay, so here's what's so funny. The outfits I feel most confident that I had most confidence are, you constantly give me shit about being stuck in the 80s, right? Or 90s, but yeah.

Yeah, okay. The confidence that where I find most of that from, where the reason I wore a suit coat, what's my, and I don't know if you'll remember this, what my favorite outfit would be. That, you don't know if I know. I don't know if you remember what my, what truly, head to toe, what my favorite outfit would be. Yeah, it says bleached out fucking blue jeans with holes in them, white t-shirt and a a black jacket. Black jacket and cowboy boots. And sunglasses. Yep. Now, million-dollar question for anybody to listen.

Who knows what video that look, or similar to, it wasn't black, it was a red jacket, that that look was on that I got that from. I'm with stuff like that i know you are but i know they will but i but i can tell you that true because if you think about our age range like the ripped up jeans rock rock you know rock star jeans i could see i could see uh john bon jovi wearing something like that john bon jovi's wearing the leather jacket that i like the ripped up jeans with the leather jacket with leather jacket with the fringe is Jon Bon Jovi.

And my hair, how I like my hair, why I like Poopie, is Jon Bon Jovi. But that actual coat was our freshman year in college. Our freshman year in college. And that was actually off of Use Your Illusion. It was Guns N' Roses. And at one point in time, in one of the videos, he walks, he's, don't cry, he's actually sitting in like a medical room and he sees like three different versions of himself while he's sitting there.

And at one point in time, he walks in with a cigarette, because he used to smoke this water, he used to want a cigarette with it, cigarette, red sport coat, ripped up jeans, cowboy boots, walks in, looks at himself, peace out, and walks out, and that look, the first time I saw that, I was like, fuck yeah, and I adopted that look immediately. So how come you ever got a red coat? Because I like black better. Seriously, that was, there was the Bon Jovi part of it, was black versus red. But that's seriously. So it's funny. The confidence is stuff in outfits like you hate.

You're like, that's so outdated. So now I'm at this awkward age, right, as being old. What I feel comfortable in is not age appropriate.

I appropriate I mean mind you my hair is not age appropriate my beard the earrings all those things aren't age appropriate anyways but those that outfit that I feel most comfortable in not age appropriate part of why I do my nails again because I was all part of that that time frame that whatever and so the last most key part of what i felt comfortable in was not age appropriate and what's really funny the girls i'd love to hit on with it wouldn't even know that reference if i fucking showed them the video right i mean there's gonna be people listening to this that go axel who i mean they're they're not even gonna that that reference they would look at that if you even you showed it to them they're like okay different time so now i don't have that to fall back on so i'm older right i take take my testosterone shots and my dick work all the time right i i the hair is long but there's spots that are empty so i do my rogaine right to make sure that we try to fill in the empty spots the outfits i had need to get you the spray the outfits that i had the most confidence in the outfits i had the most confidence in where i found comfort and i could hide in my clothes right right, are no longer age-appropriate, and even you will make fun of mine.

We'll be like, you want to get somewhere closer to the current decade.

So I find you jeans that show off your dick more than just this baggy, bleached-ass jeans ripped up whatever and I would but I how can you see my dick with my belly hanging over it I mean I get it you can't but everybody else can I get it and luckily you can see it because that's as hard as it's going to get no I'm just kidding but I mean that's that that's the that's the one of the challenges of getting of older in the lifestyle like my knowledge of people i now if if i could go back in time one week one mother fucking week one seven day period you put me back college, back in that body, right?

What I look like then. Big fucking hair. I know what you look like. I bet you. I'm telling for the other people. Big fucking hair, in shape. But you give me the knowledge that I have right now that I understand that every chick is just as fucking horny as I am. And it's like, I'm telling you what, A, if my dick, if I didn't fuck my dick completely off in that week, it would be so fucking chappy, it would need a lifetime to recover, so here's the catch, for all, at least for guys, is we have all this knowledge, we finally understand that the girls in high school were just as horny as we were.

They just didn't talk about it. Right? We have all this knowledge but the vessel, right? We don't have the confidence in the vessel because guess what? The steering pump might go out. It might not work. You might need a shot at fucking something to get the shit to go and then it's a crap shoot. Okay, so here's all these people going fuck that.

Fuck what's age appropriate wear it so you're gonna tell me that even if you were that some 20 and 30 somethings aren't gonna make fun of you they're gonna oh my god they're gonna make fun of me that's just it do you care if they make fun of you the okay no i'm just curious that's a great question here this goes back to the vessel The vessel In my 20s and 30s, no Because you know what? If you want to say shit to me I'll fucking drop your ass I don't fucking care, fuck you I had no fear My hands didn't hurt when I'm playing scoops with Zippy You know, I I mean, it's like, you know, no.

Here's the best example. Remember when I got arrested? I was in jail overnight, right? And at that time, I only had a little tattoo, a rose tattoo, and this big motherfucking dude in there, like, hey, nice rose fag. I'm in jail. And I turn around and go, fuck you. Luckily luckily I got out before we got out of lockdown but I had no fear right?

fuck you you know now the vessel I can still say it but that was 30 fucking years ago exactly and the difference is I don't know how strong my chin still is but i don't want to find out because i know my hands aren't as tough as they used to be so what's shitty is when you've spent your lifetime i walked in my i didn't give two fuck all of our friends remember all me and all my friends we wore leather jackets year round why not-round. Why? Not because it was hot or cold, because it looked cool. Because you wanted to sweat. Because it looked cool. You didn't care.

The heart's still willing, but I can't back it up. There I walked in, and I have no problem. Fuck off. Can't do that now. I know I've got people like Larry that would jump with me, but we both get killed. These restrictions are are all self-imposed whatever makes you feel good will draw people to you even if it's out of date i don't want to look like the dude that's dressed like the parrot that's like i'm a free spirit you know i don't want to be that i mean i i agree with i get it so here's the funny thing is is i damn near dress the exact same as I did.

Except I've gotten a little bit more risqué-er in showing cleavage and shit. But I've never... If I went back to the 90s, it would be baggy pants and baggy t-shirts.

No, you'd go back to the 80s a little bit further and I'll pick your outfits for you it'll be awesome but no it isn't what you pick it's what i feel good in but as a male but as a male i know what my favorite outfit was those fucking flannel pants yeah but okay t-shirt but here's the thing there's the other difference it is what you feel comfortable in it is what you feel feel good in and most husbands will agree with me we don't dress ourselves because our wives love us and they don't want us to go out looking like idiots so they'll turn to us and say are you going to wear that?

I don't do that anymore you yes you do and it's a compliment no no no it it's a compliment because the thing is it's kind of like letting the four-year-old dress themselves right and they come out and they're wearing like the duck costume with fucking one cowboy boot and you know you're like what are you doing do you remember what i'm sorry your hands ow his hands are super sensitive do you know what i're like, what are you doing? Do you remember what I... I'm sorry, your hands... Ow! His hands are super sensitive. Do you know what I was wearing the night I met you? The night you...

The night you met me? Officially met you. The one-night stand. I know what you're wearing later. It's a one-night stand. You were wearing the genie pants, because I love those. Genie pants. So almost like MC Hammer pants, but not as bad. Yeah. Your hair was short. And a long-sleeved t-shirt. I actually liked it. And a crystal around like that. I actually liked it, because I could feel where it was shaved. Because you had the little mushroom bob, which I didn't normally like girls with short hair. But it was sexy and it was hot. Yeah, I remember exactly what you were wearing.

And my hair was cinnamon colored. Imagine that. Yeah, and I also remember you being a con on the Cheeto. So there it is. You kept sitting there eating for everything. Just dance with me, bitch. So, but even then, I didn't have the courage to close the deal. You had to whore out and fucking close the deal for me. But no, the thing is, is you do, because you care, say, hey, that doesn't look, are you sure? I watched it with my mom and my dad for years and years and years. Mom would go out and continuously try to buy dad. Because you can't buy clothes from the 90s still today. Right. No, exactly.

And the thing was, is you've done with me and you do it. It's 100% out love you do it to try to just like when you get you're going to learn the technology touch the phone you're doing it to help me right so it's not a rip I mean comedians make joke about but it's not a rip because yes you know what I've found and I still want to buy another biker leather jacket like my leather jacket but that's fringe like what I had okay and you know what? I've found, and I still want to buy another biker leather jacket like my leather jacket, but that's fringe like what I had, okay? And you know what?

My hands can't handle it, but I would fucking kill anybody who wants to talk shit with me about it. I miss, I want one of those fringe leather jackets again. But even the people, if these are people that are our friends, say, wear what you want. If I walked into the bar with literally an 80s Bon Jovi style leather jacket with a black fringe from sleeve to sleeve, tell me I'm not going to catch shit. You'll catch shit. I'm going to catch shit. And the problem is when I was 20 or 30, I'd crack a joke, whatever, it'd be fine. At 50, I might...

Okay, so now what we need to do is we need to go buy you a tuxedo coat And I will sew French On your arms So you have little back wings I'm wrong to see, this is why I don't wear this shit But see, even all my suit coats I have one I have one that's a mess that has French on it I always I always take And would cuss myself just enough, right? Just enough, a little something. The problem is now that I felt invincible when I dressed a certain way. A couple years ago, KSN, shit went south, right? And I sat in our thing, and I was all fucking twisted.

And all I wanted to do at a nudist camp was get in jeans, white t-shirt, and a suit coat. It was like a safety shield. So now that I'm older, Fathom, you have no safe place to go so there there is someone who has lived their life with confidence right i'm i'm a pretty extrovert type guy pretty tough skin pretty whatever right and also you at older now you, at older now, you're like, when was the last time you saw me go in to kiss a girl at an event? I remember a couple times at the bar. How long ago? Oh, like. It's been at least a year.

No, eight, nine months ago no yeah now how drunk was i should that matter uh yeah it actually plays into it okay before then how many times in the last four years have you seen me go in and fucking just randomly there's been a couple nights where I was on a total Drunk and tear but Seriously In the last four years I don't know I don't keep track Not near as much There are people that can attest to that No Jessica Jessica's going Saturday I did not go in for a kiss on Saturday. I wanted to. I wanted to. That's actually the perfect example. That's actually a brilliant example.

Here's the difference of swinging when I'm older. Someone I knew, we've known for years, hooked up with years ago, multiple times, like we could hook it not because anything bad negative just kind of like life happened type thing right totally been talking to again totally like headed down that path totally totally chemistry there right you weren't standing there so I'm No, but I know who you're talking about, and I know it. I get it. Right. Chemistry there. Jessica was standing there. I mean, it's like... That should have been a no-brainer. That wasn't even anything... That wasn't new.

I mean, it's kind of been so many years, but I mean, that should have been a... She has shorter hair. That should have been an absolute no-fucking-brainer. And I thought about it. My brain was like, you know, it was communicating between my dick. I couldn't stop myself. And trust me, I'm going to go with, yes, I was semi-cocked blocked at that moment, too.

It didn't help.'t help but i'm gonna guess with you know the person all the signs were there and we've talked about since she's like why didn't you absolutely there was not like any hesitation on her part it was all on me and that's the difference between cole in his 40s and cole in his 50s and so so, like, my big challenge is, that's why I want to do stuff about Older Swing, because I want to try to find that again. To try to, you know, I mean, obviously, I'm going to be able to dress accordingly or whatever, but you know what I'm saying. To find that same sort of something.

These series will do way better if it's not just me We'll be right back. to find that same sort of something. These series will do way better if it's not just me just telling my story. It isn't. I gave input. But, okay, so your story's a scoach different, but also a scoach similar. With what? Well, because you...

Has it changed since you have since you you have changed your you totally changed your body since you since you went on your diet and everything else is that has that altered has that countered anything that might have come because of age probably I mean because that because you you that might have come because of age probably i mean because that because you it's made me more comfortable for the most part there's still mental aspect to it that's not completely fixed but getting. But I think it's helped counter. Well, what helps is no one guesses my age. Right. They never have.

And then when I do tell them, they go, there's no way you're 53. Yeah. Well, I am. Do you want to see a driver's license? I mean, I can show you it. There's no way you're 53. My husband's carrying it because I never bring it with me. I thought you were 35. Oh, shut the fuck up and quit lying to me.

There's no way you're 50 my husband's carrying it because i never bring it with me i thought you were 35 oh shut the fuck up and quit lying to me there's no way i look 35 you do no i don't well i mean you just look back if you get really close then maybe it's a little easier to see i'm kidding don't send me a bunch of me a bunch of hate mail. No, a lot of people guess me in my 40s. And I'm like, no. But sometimes I think they're just trying to humor. Why? Because people don't like to guess people's ages. They don't want to guess my ass older than what I am.

Motherfuckers have no problem doing that. You play Santa Claus. Do you know that's part of the reason why I won't show off the beard? What? That's part of the reason I have kept the beard. Is why? It's like a reverse veil. And it's what it is. I'll trim it up before KWN. But that's what it is.

What's really fucked up is Even though Even though it shows gray Right Because obviously it shows some fucking gray But it's like a veil Yeah That's really fucked up I'm just saying Yeah I can't read it Because I don't have my glasses Because I'm fucking old Amanda you don't look 50s You don't Okay whatever I don't know.

I can't read it Because I don't have my glasses Because I'm fucking old Amanda, you don't look 50s You don't Okay, whatever I look great I'm married A 12-year-old For me, getting older It's not about age of friends But about the quality of the friends I will lean towards Oh, the friends I will lean towards Age is still just a number to me But character says a lot This is coming a guy who wants to go get arrested i'm gonna go get arrested no i love that from a couple other people where they go age doesn't matter i really don't care as long as you're fun it doesn't matter for me for for it's almost like swinging for me has reached a point where it's, when I first got into swinging, it was like playing volleyball.

It's a team sport, right? Play to win. Now that I've gotten older and what I feel like now is that swinging now for me is like golf. I'm competing against myself. Because 90% of the stuff is trying to figure out myself. But that's a challenge. I mean, it's, you know. But we all change. Right. but in my rant, I talked about making swinging new again. How do you re... How do you... I forget what I named it. It was actually the right word. Not reinvent. If you redo something. If you're like not remodel, renovate. Complete renovation.

I can don't think what you're looking for to to renovate the lifestyle because really what the ultimate thing you know we all meet and greets have become more greet and greets right because we don't meet anybody new so the same fucking people there but there's always some new. But there's always somebody new. But we don't get out of our comfort zone to go say hi. Because we're so settled in our comfort zone. Just people in general. When we were first new, you had to get out of your comfort zone. Because you didn't know anybody.

So you weren't going to get laid unless you went and talked to somebody you didn't fucking know. Ta-da. And that was my I was talking about that. And that's a game now that, as I've gotten older, I'm having to play with myself to try to find, I don't want to be 30 again, but I want to have the confidence of 30. I want to have, I want to be a confident 52 is what I want to be. That's what I want to be, and trying to find that, and that's a challenge that I think people have in the lifestyles. How do you, I think, more people age does play a part.

I think we all say and we all in the back of mind believe it's just a number, but there's outward signs that show it's more than just a number. And it's how do you counter those? So basically this show answered absolutely zero questions. Glad to help. And, you know, don't shut up. Don't tell you, shut up. No, you won't. Fucking old bat. Wow. That's why we love doing the show. No. Okay, so there you go.

So hopefully that show, I don't know what it did for sure, but, you know, it sure was fun I don't know what it did for sure but you know it sure was fun for us and a free therapy session for Cole so there you go I don't know we gotta start planning these out I have a really good plan with these but I'll start giving you more cliff notes at a time I want you to see this In the meantime, hey there's still rooms available At Crazy Winter Nights, we sure would like to have you BDSM Hotel, there's rooms You should be in one You shouldn't really call it that, it's really an overflow It's not an overflow, it's a secondary hotel It also has events going on The second event hotel We still have rooms available And we would love to have you come to Crazy Winter Nights.

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