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Krazy Truth about swinging #302 Remember who brought you to the dance
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Send us Fan MailThis week we are all about communication about the chances that happen in the lifestyle after you have been in for a couple of years. The hard choice to review and look at how you are doing as a couple. Is this where you want to be. A challenging episode https://mycupcondom.com/discount/KASBH10 My cup condomhttp://www.motorbunny.comhttp://www.asnlifestylemagazine.comhttp://www.fullswapshop.comhttp://www.smokinmeatsbbqtreats.comhttps://www.onlyfans.com/msamandakasbh: http://www.krazykasbh.com: http:// www.youtube.com/kasbhemails [email protected]: @TruthKrazySupport the show
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Speaker1: Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth About Swinging. I'm your host with the most. I'm Colin. I'm here with the lovely, lovely and only slightly bruised, Miss Amanda.
Speaker2: Hey, how am I bruised?
Speaker1: Your rotator cuff is bruised. It's bruised, not broken.
Speaker2: I don't know if it's not broken.
Speaker1: It's not broken.
Speaker3: Instead. Continue.
Speaker2: We'll talk about that a little bit.
Speaker1: Anyways, we're here to Tantelate until 8. We're pretty damn excited, even though my computer's being a fucking piece of shit, and I hate it, because it won't pull up the goddamn site. Anyways, other than that, all's going well. Guess who's not a motherfucking sponsor of the show? That would be Acer. Thanks. Anyways, so, or Facebook, imagine that. So, anyways, what do we normally do? Oh, yeah. For those of you following along at home, this is the first time we've ever seen this clusterfuck. This is Season 7, Episode 302. We're here to tantalize and titillate and whatever else that we fucking do on this show. I don't even fucking know. Keep doing your comments. We have multiple phones that we can read off of, which I can't see anyways because it's so fucking small. You know, goddamn technology fucking bullshit. Oh, this is hilarious. It's a podcast. It'll be fun. Yeah. Anyway, so once we get the hamsters all fired up to run in our high-tech equipment studio, then maybe we'll have the top-notch fucking shit. Tesla had more fucking Nikolai had more fucking van shit than we've got going on right now. I don't know what you're talking about. If our ship would have been used to get to the moon, you know, they're supposed to do that on a cell phone now. Motherfuckers would still be lost in space. Just saying. Anyways. Okay. So, we usually do stuff. What are we? Oh, yeah, yeah. Sponsors. Yeah. If you want to know what's going on in the adult world As well as the lifestyle Make it Oh, yeah, yeah. Sponsors. Yeah. If you want to know what's going on in the adult world as well as the lifestyle, make it a habit each and every month to read your new edition of ASNLifestyleMagazine.com. Top stories, articles by people you want to know, the movers, the shakers, and all those in between. Three million readers can't be wrong. ASNLifestyleMagazine.com. You'll find us in the Poconos, and I'll accept their award show. Also, hey, it's that time of year. What time of year is that? You know the time of year where you do things like mow the yard, see family and friends, and you grill out. And what do you put on the grill? Do you put veggies? Maybe. But like most people, you put meat. Well, now you don't have to settle for meat that just tastes eh, because you can go to our good friends at SmokinMeatsBBQTreats.com and get some delicious meat rubs. Let me spell that for you so you can go order some today. S-M-O-K-I-N-M-E-A-T-S-BB-Q-T-R-E-A-T-S.com. There's six delicious flavors to choose from on their website. There's Hickory Dust, Lemon Pepper, SBG, Orange Mango, Habanero, Pineapple Paradise, and?
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Speaker3: Thank you. Basically saying, unwilling to get tested, to fuck.
Speaker1: This is the reason why we tell people all the time, you've got to be careful and take care of yourself.
Speaker2: Even if you haven't done it for a really long time, why not say, well, if you'd like for me to, I can.
Speaker3: Right.
Speaker2: But he also did put that he was married, so it makes me go, well, does your wife not know?
Speaker3: Right. Exactly.
Speaker1: You know, I was saying this as I was taking a shower. I was like, okay okay because i don't want to do a show on stis but not this week but it's like okay what is a legitimate reason for people not to get tested because there's always there's always legitimate reasons for for well not always 90 of 90% of the time, most things that sometimes we go, what the fuck? There's some legitimate reason behind it. I could only come up with two legitimate reasons not to be tested if you're in a lifestyle and you do this as a hobby. One is that you're single, you're a single person, and you have not had sex with anyone I don't well it's been three months no No matter what, I got tested. I know I haven't fucked anything or touched anything.
Speaker3: No.
Speaker1: If you've legitimately not, that would be a legit reason. The other would be if you are in a committed relationship, a marriage or something, you know, you're living with your spouse or you're living with your significant other, and you both know that you have both not had sex with anybody else other than each other since your last sti test otherwise i can't there's no other way you can justify not doing a test in my opinion and i've had some people say well if you want me to get tested i will one guy said he did get tested and he'll get the results back but but he checks clean. Yeah. No. I need to see that you got tested. An interesting thing, and this is a cool thing to educate for the lifestyle side, right? Because I'm learning things. Before you started doing adult stuff, before we started doing adult stuff, we went in and got tested. And the test was usually urine and blood work. So an interesting note, something to learn. If you're on the adult side of things, a test that what is required for your testing is you have to test and get its blood tests, urine tests, throat swab, anal swab. Anal swab is if you participate in anal sex, though. Well, I'm just saying for the adults, that doesn't matter if you do it or not. But yes, if you participate in anal sex, you absolutely have to have anal swab. But a throat swab, that's what's required. So kind of the thing that you hear people talk about all the time, well, I do a full test and I do a full panel. If it doesn't include a throat swab and an anal swab, no, you don't. Well, one guy sent me, he goes, well, here's my test.
Speaker3: So was chlamydia the only thing you were tested for?
Speaker1: Right. You need to be tested for more than just chlamydia. Well, and the reason it's important to tell people that is that a lot of people feel like they're doing the right thing. They're getting a full panel. They don't know. here's the deal you can have gonorrhea chlamydia you know a lot of things of the throat or the anus that won't show up in a urine test or a blood test. It's only shown up in a swab. So something to keep in mind. And here's the thing. Let's think about this for a second. Everybody goes, well, we always use condoms. Awesome. It's great if that works for you not every std can be stopped by condoms and are you if you're given blowjobs are you making them wear a condom when you suck dick are you making them wear don't let them when they eat you out because that's how you get the other stuff so it's food for thought if you want more information about that type of testing where to go or what to ask for shoot us an email or messages we're happy to tell you what to ask for but it's it's it was we didn't know either we learned as we went and the thing is is that when you do the adult side of it you don't actually want to put yourself in a position to get something when you're going to go shoot because then when you test if it comes out dirty or not yeah gonna have some negative or positive test results it stops anything from happening until you're treated and you have to retest again to see if and the thing is test results thing is, test results are only good for, it becomes important. So on the adult side, everybody tests. There's the clean pool and the dirty pool is what they call it. And so like when we, the first time we went to Exotica, I didn't get tested. You did. We couldn't have sex while you were available to shoot because I hadn't been tested. That would have automatically eliminated you from being able to do it. Test results, studios require different things, but can be good between 7 and 30 days. So it's something to keep in mind. But if you're someone that's really, you're like, I'm dedicated to wanting to make sure that I'm doing full panel, if you participate in anal sex, and actually, if you or somebody that likes to eat ass or has somebody eat your ass, throat swabs, anal swabs, urine blood work. So again, let us know. We're happy to help because we learned a lot and we know that a lot of people, it's just something totally unique and different. So, I don't know. Someday, it's more and more important because we have events coming like we have events coming up, like with crazy Vegas nights. Well, you know, the thing when – and you see people in all the places all the time talking about going to – going on vacation and wanting to swing your clubs and to do things because it's not at home. Well, you know, not everybody you might run into at one of those places might not believe in the same testing or have the same. I mean, it's about that conversation. And the cool thing, like on the adult side, is, hey, here's my test results. It's on the phone. The reason I mention that on air with you guys is one of the cool things that's going to happen at crazy winter nights at crazy Vegas nights. I know for sure. And actually, well at both the crazy summer nights, we have people that are coming that are adult stars that shoot at all content. What does that mean? If you want a chance to be able to pop, let's say you, you meet one of them and you get along great. And that leads to the possibility, because guess what? They like to fuck for fun, too. If you want to get to fuck them, they're going to ask you about your test results, and they're not going to take your word for it. If they ask you and you go, you know what? I got tested before my event. Here's on my phone, just like what they go through in their real life, that makes all the difference in the world. Because I promise if they're planning to have sex, they'll have theirs. And I read on X, whatever, that someone had a fake one. And what they did was the girl saw something, I couldn't see it, but saw something that didn't add up. So she called the testing facility they go no they haven't been in since 2020 and she's like no thank you and that person was has been blackballed all over the whole world so like i say at vegas there are people that are going to be there that seriously you know like everybody goes i want to i want to do the fan fuck thing you know when you watch those those people are getting tests people are getting tested. They're not just fucking those people randomly. They're tested. Can you see comments? It's just driving me fucking insane. God, I can't read this fucking shit. Where's the best place to get a full panel test? So if you... To do the full panel tests, there is a location in Omaha. There's one in Des Moines. There is, we are actually, you can go. The one in Omaha doesn't carry the anal spots. It doesn't carry the anal spots. We're actually working with the one in Bellevue to help them. I was talking to them about the Pride Clinic. And here's the thing. You go like to your uh health department and so look at and say i need or to your doctor's office and when they want to do a panel say i i also need a the swab test there's also that mail order the mail one yes there's i don't remember the name of it but you can order a testing kit take it to your local place to have like a local lab to have the blood drawn and have the urine sample done, and then you mail it back or something. Yeah, and then you mail it in. And we'll put some links to stuff because, like I say, it's a really good idea. And the other thing it's just guys be caught when you're traveling remember seriously and not everybody it's not like where you're going to see the same people that you know all the time so yeah uh and and that's also another big thing internationally that there's different thought processes shut up siri there's different thought processes of STIs. Siri didn't understand what you were talking about. Of STIs and stuff in the real world. God, why don't I just pull the fuck up? I'm sorry. I'm better now. Anyways. Are you sure? I don't think you are. Well, I want to be able to read comments and I can't see shit. I want to be able to read comments and can't see shit. And so this is, like, frustrating me because I'm not able to read comments and i can't see shit i want to be able to read comments and can't see shit and so this is like frustrating me because i'm not able to do the provide the quality of show that people have come to expect because these fucking cock fuckers okay that's too funny pissing wait i'm gonna try something hold on i'm wait i think i may find a way to Come on, you dirty little whore. Alan and Josh missed me last night. As soon as this show's fucking over. I was in bed by the time y'all were doing your podcast. Cuck sucker. I could hear a little bit and then I fell asleep. Oh my God, shut up. Why? Why? What? Oh, great. That's a zero fucking value. Because you get click happy. I'm not click happy. I'm calm as a fucking motherfucker. Right. Anyways, okay. So let's move along, shall we? Public service news for the day. God damn fucking show and fucking bullshit. Fuck. I'm okay. It's all good. Wow. It's okay. It's all right. You know, people have come to understand and appreciate my passion for providing the best quality fucking show we can which means reading the comments from all the cool people that listen to our shit you know so and and being able to share their their insights and knowledge out and around and at this point in time all i'm doing is fucking getting pissed at my computer i told you you could have my Jesus. Fuck. Okay, so now I can't read shit. All right, so, okay. What are we doing? What's going on now? Josh says you're turning them on. I'm sure I am. That happens a lot. I look sexy when I'm all fucking wet and raging. Okay, so, I'm telling you, it's all the testosterone I'm taking. It's surging through my body. Oh, if it's going to get you moody like that, I'm going to fucking drain some of it. I'm not moody. You want moody? I'm going to drain some of it. I'm not moody. You're going to drain it? Fuck yeah. We got to go, kids. I'm not. No, I meant the pill. You want me to fucking take some more to go back to my estrogen blocker, get a hot flash and really break in the moody shit? My testosterone, I want it to be known. We're going to take a quick moment and then we got to get on with real shit so people will listen to our show. We had my testosterone level checked because fucking Zippy over here thought that because I still find an older woman attractive. Just because she's older, she's still hot as fuck, which is a huge compliment and gives me a hard on continuously throughout the day. She was pretty sure that I was chasing around around for no reason figured my testosterone level was like 7,000 or something shit we had it tested it is not, it is at 7.50 it's like, my year old is like it's perfect, it's awesome, it's right where it's supposed to be so for those of you who didn't know me when I was 20.
Speaker3: Now, what kind of a princess is she? How she's tolerated me. I've been like this for a long time.
Speaker1: This was like my natural state.
Speaker3: This is like, when I was in college, when people go, oh, I don't get a whiskey dick. I don't get a whiskey dick.
Speaker2: Uh-uh.
Speaker1: My fucking shit would fight right through that shit. So this is where we're at the rest of our life, baby. Just saying. So what I have found, as we were discussing today, you know, usually when you're with your partner or jacking off, you can usually come faster, or I can. That's now increasing in time also. So that means, for those of you who have had hooked up with me in the past and know that generally there's a longer time limit of how long we do shit, it's only going to get worse. Just saying. So Amanda says, I need more fuck buddies. Just saying. So there's comments I want to read. What are they saying?
Speaker3: God.
Speaker2: Someone else's computer is doing the same thing at work.
Speaker3: Okay.
Speaker1: I feel better now.
Speaker3: Thank you. comments i want to read what are they saying god someone else's computer is doing the same thing doing the same same thing at work okay i feel better now i don't know do you not really not really stop yes i said you know what you need to go find some people to fuck and i did you do i try so anyway so so anybody's up for it apparently my my penis have penis will travel boy okay so uh got some questions we need to get on with the show jeez no one's gonna listen to us anymore no one likes us like you but you're not naked don't yeah so uh jessica's computer did the same thing at work too oh maybe Oh. Maybe there's, like, something down. Well, it's not my fucking blood pressure right now, I can tell you that. I can guarantee that, too. Just saying that, motherfucker's gone. Mine was perfect today. It was. I had to go to the doctor. But your shoulder's fucked up, and your wrist hurts, and you crack and can't move for a while, so I guess there's other shit. Okay, so this is Amanda's Dilemma. I got tennis elbow, and I was doing the exercises like you're supposed to how'd i got tennis elbow it all started off with being a smart ass doing deadlifts years ago now i happen to get it just so i hold my cell phone i have a hair on my mouth what the fuck so then okay i got the no it's a long hair there it is so So then I got a pair of roller skates. You did, because that was an awesome idea. And the sidewalk was going downhill, and I didn't know it, and busted my ass. So I landed on my wrist, on my left arm. Yes. That has a tennis elbow.
Speaker2: Yes.
Speaker3: But a month before, well, back in March, I went to go reach something out of the backseat and lifted it up and heard a pop.
Speaker2: Oh!
Speaker3: It came up.
Speaker2: He's so excited, but the comments haven't. So then, chill out. So then, I had irritated a tendon, whatever.
Speaker3: So then, my left, right shoulder ended up acting up. But it's, like, way worse.
Speaker2: Can't move it, hardly. Can't lift it. Pretty sure I had busted my rotator cuff torn it whatever right lifting up your sunglasses i'm trying to gauge how far is it gonna make no i'm trying to figure out how far go ahead keep by lifting up sunglasses okay you're a dork so anyway they because i still had strength in it that's not how you do that you just tap the screen and it shows you messages um so the doctor's like well you still have strength in your arms it's not torn but do these exercises and if it doesn't get better in two weeks then call me and we'll do an mri so for now she won't have to shoot she won't have to shoot like a chicken i was really debating about how all these shows were gonna go because if i ended up having to have surgery my arm is out for what six to eight weeks or some shit but it's better now so we're good it's not better now so i first thing i did was do these exercises and i napped but i'm out you napped but i'm out so i did other things okay all right good so that's our dilemma okay so now we need we need to answer yes do you answer your question because we talked about what what did we talk about what say i'm sorry i interrupted i apologize i was wrong i'm sorry you are such a lying piece of shit bullshit i'm actually'm actually legitimately apologizing How does that make me a lying piece of shit? That you say you're sorry What? That you said you're sorry I do feel bad, I want to refresh it so bad But I'm afraid it'll go away I'm on the edge But he can't help himself because he has issues And when I don't have issues i have issues they're there boy isn't this thing moving i don't care not my problem okay there we go all right this is fucking wow awesome so now he can read shit i can read shit out loud and watch what's going on thanks everybody for coming i love you all okay so well that's awesome i missed you so much you were gone. Okay. So, well, that's awesome.
Speaker3: I missed you so much.
Speaker2: You were gone.
Speaker3: But how far? Wait a minute. How far behind are we? We're not. Keep going.
Speaker2: Yes.
Speaker3: Yes. Talk.
Speaker2: Ask questions.
Speaker3: Oh, my God. Seriously. It's okay. You know what? Here. Lift up.
Speaker1: Lift up. Here's the thing. You know, it's not okay in today's age to make fun of people when they have mental conditions okay and that's a mental condition and i just fucking leave me alone i'm just excited wow seriously yes i'm willing to admit that i have certain things that are i'm a little ocd and control issues control issues there's a whole list of them, yep. Okay. I believe my therapist is bugging her world to her now as we speak. Compliments a call. Okay, so. Wow. Did you have a question for us? Well, yeah, sort of. So, okay. So. Can you do that again? That felt really good. She's playing with my hair. For those of you just listening. No, all I was doing was combing out a curl. That was a nod. But it feels good on my neck. So, pseudo question-ish, whatever, it's kind of funny. Because I've been seeing this a lot on several. Everybody knows that we also own Full Swap 101. And so so I've seen this come up a couple of times on Full Swap 101. And this actually came up, actually people reached out to me after my rant, which my rant was on rules and why we have them, right? That's what it was. But what has come up a couple of times now is this team concept in swinging. And what caught me off guard was with the rules because with the rules one, the person was like, legitimately had issues with my concept of the rules and why they're important because I put emphasis on, you know, following the rules, basically, that I didn't hit on if one part of your partnership, significant other, whatever, is not following the rules, right? And I did, and I put that there's accountability in there for, you know, if you see your significant other breaking rules that you have, you should be accountable for correcting and saying something. So it really wasn't had anything to do with significant others. And I've seen multiple things where there's this concept of a bunch of people asking questions. I think today there was three different ones, of where the couples, whatever, are not on the same page. Like, and it was two of them I gotta think this through for a second. Two of them were, want to get right were trying to what one was how do i get them on the same page basically get them to do what i want them to do right and the other two others and they were unrelated were on how to you know what do i you know feeling guilty because they weren't on the same page, how do I get over it, basically, type thing. And it was funny to read the responses, because a lot of responses were, you know, you're making almost like a victim shaming, right? Like, on the ones who are trying to, how do I get over it? You're just making too big of a deal of it type thing. Okay. Okay? And then the other side of it was like this major harsh, you know, fuck them. They're being assholes or they're being a cunt, you know, type thing. And the one thing you didn't find in any of the comments or anything was communication at all. Like that, no one was saying, well, have you talked about it? Have you communicated about it? Have you, you know, have you, it was all either they're an asshole or you should get over it type thing. And some of these have like one of the other pages bigger than our full swap page. Had like three of them on there today too. Or two of them on there today themselves. And literally, I'm reading these things going, where's middle? Somewhere, right? And I thought it was interesting because it shows that, or in my opinion, it shows that no one's reviewing shit as they go through, right? They're just, and it was varying degrees. One was from a new, new couple, like two months. Okay, so you take a couple like that and you go, you're figuring out the lifestyle.
Speaker3: They had been to, like, one event. What it was, they had been to a big event, and there was perception of a rule broken. When you read the description, you go, was it really a rule broken? I mean, it was kind of more of a... Perception of it was what it sounded like quite honestly was uh you any regular interaction like if do you remember when we used to have bone parties where like you'd be going to the bathroom and all of a sudden you know somebody you're talking to somebody and you'd look over you look and all of a sudden well who the fuck are they over there talking to you're're just being social. There's nothing else going on there. But if you're new, it's like, wah, it goes slowly, right? So the first one was almost like that. There was one that had been in six, seven years. And that was the one they honed in on. Because the other one, the third one was long, long term. And like, you really got the feeling it's not, it's more that one of them was ready to be done. Right. Which is a totally different, that's a totally different monster. But the one they've been in six or seven years, and I can't remember now exactly how long it's been, it is, you're reading this, and it dawns on you how much, how much of an issue this really is, because as you, as I'm reading this, you can start envisioning couples you've seen, right?
Speaker2: You know, all the adventures of where you've seen you go.
Speaker1: Whoa, raggy, you know, that type of thing. And you could see that. And, and so it's like, so the question part of it is, is at, at what point, how do, how do you, how do you take and broach that, but still always remember the key phrase, remember who you came to the dance with, right? Because that's ultimately what it is. You have to remember who you came to the dance with. That's such an old person's phrase. My grandparents would be so proud of me right now. Right? Because that's just it. It's like, okay, so you're still going, you're still coming home with the same person. But how do you broach it? And are people actually, are they having that conversation? When you look at these posts, they're not. And you can see, then you start scrolling back a couple days like look at anybody listen there's one of great facebook pages 40 000 people on pineapple 101 full swap has 23 24 000 people on it and there's a couple others look at them and and keep that general thought process in mind of that concept and go through and start looking at how many posts have something to do with that. And that becomes, to me, that's the question is how do people, how do you broach that subject or those concerns when you're no longer new? Because I think that's what it is. It's like a seven-year itch thing, right? When you're new, it's easy because you're no longer new, because I think that's what it is. It's like a seven-year itch thing, right? When you're new, it's easy because you're new. It should be easy if somebody wants out. That shouldn't be that hard. But it's that middle. It's the early stages of it. Does that make sense?
Speaker2: I think so.
Speaker1: You're just looking at me, so I'm wondering if it makes sense. You're just looking at me. You've got like this. Kind of? I'm just trying to follow along. Okay, well, if I quit describing it anymore, because I think that's making it worse. I feel like I keep just adding more eggs to the cake. Should we put some kegs in the cake? No. So what's the actual question? Egg in the cake? How do you approach... How do you approach...
Speaker2: When a rule is broken?
Speaker3: No.
Speaker1: How do you approach lifestyle concerns when you're no longer new? I don't know what I'm going to title this episode, by the way.
Speaker2: Okay. Remember who you came to the dance with. Okay. Okay. I think that it's like, seriously, how do you, how do you, sometimes the questions, we all say there's no such thing as a dumb question. Don't do that. Don't think because then it's so well you get botox so i'm kidding we all i think we reach a point where we stop some questions all of a sudden or some things all of a sudden start to feel stupid after you've been in something for a while yes the one of how can i convince my spouse to do this i fly past those you will not even get my opinion of it because you already know the fucking answer and you don't even need to ask the question right right yeah yeah or you should if you don't then there's a yeah i mean if some people really go well how do i convince them you you don't you can talk to them right but they they won't agree now if you have an additional question in there besides that you know maybe she's not confident in her body how do i get her past that just or how do i help how do i help her get over that or how do i how can i be supportive because some of those i've commented on right but the ones that are blatantly you know how do i get her into this well good luck hound her for 20 years right i truly think i truly think that some of them though i think that i think we establish it in the beginning and it and it becomes very hard or we don't feel like it can change. I think that's human nature, right? Like you get in your habits, your routine, so you don't change. Like people that eat breakfast out every morning, like when their restaurant closes, their favorite restaurant closes, they're like, ah, the sky is falling. Or when somebody's computer won't load? No, that's because I can't answer questions. Fuck off. No, we're not, do not turn this on me. You went nuts over it. Because I can't answer people's questions, but, and this is such a high-tech operation. But there was another option. I read them to you. There are tens of twenties of dollars spent on all this equipment that needs, how can we let people down with this much high-tech shit? Wow.
Speaker1: I'm just, no, I'm just saying stay focused with me. How do we approach it? Because here's what I feel like some of those posts scream out to me. It's desperation. Right? Some of them, yeah. It's at this point in time they are I don't know.
Speaker2: I don't know.
Speaker1: I don't know.
Speaker2: I don't know.
Speaker1: I don't know.
Speaker2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker1: I don't know.
Speaker3: I don't know. out to me it's desperation right? Some of them yeah
Speaker1: it's at this point in time they are desperately trying to find some way to work through or get over or understand or something they desperately need and they're clawing in the air right? I don't know.
Speaker2: I don't know.
Speaker1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker2: I don't know.
Speaker1: I don't know.
Speaker2: I don't know. I don't know. I don that's a bad place to be. That's like bad. That's horrible bad because, so that means that either people need options, ideas, solutions, something like how to figure that out or that it's okay or something because it is okay to change the rules you know it is okay the ones that have been in a really short amount of time they're just they just don't exactly know what their rules are. Right. Okay. So we all have broken rules at the beginning because we didn't realize we were breaking them. And it was just like,
Speaker3: Oh,
Speaker2: I wasn't supposed to do that.
Speaker3: I'm sorry. But okay. But I,
Speaker1: this isn't to me, isn't about broken rules. And okay. So I'm going to do that.
Speaker2: Or is it more about the advice part?
Speaker1: I'm going to do the,
Speaker3: uh, 10,
Speaker1: 80, 10 rule. Okay. the new people 10 are brand new and that's a totally different monster 10 are the super old well-established that's a different monster i'm talking about the 80 in the middle and it's there it's the progression right it's not that they're it's not necessarily the rules have been broken. It can be rules are not in place. Rules have changed. Perceptions have changed. Mary says, assembly, different perspective, different interests, right? It's that and how to deal with that. That's like its own separate Rubik's Cube. Does that make sense that's that's the part those are the people that i don't think i don't that's the part that's like the missed people that that are that are searching for the answers and the thing is is what you see is it's an equal number of guys and girls men and and women. It's not like predominantly men, predominantly women. It's very, it's across the board, right? So part of it is probably, part of it is probably, we all know that we talked about you're leveling up, right? And no two people move to the exact same level. So there's a degree of that, but I think it's more than more than that i mean it's just a perspective uh larry that's why it doesn't matter if you're in the lifestyle 20 minutes or 20 years communication will always be the key trying to control a situation to to be only one way will damage more relationships than strengthen do not try to manipulate others that's exactly yeah absolutely uh america we used to play together now we decided we aren't going to gotcha so but okay so like mary on that one the key phrase there is now we decided we aren't going to which is a key i mean there's the difference because these people reach out they're trying to figure out how to get to the we part that's that's really what that's really what i think and i think that people have to understand it's okay it's okay to question everything okay no i'm just okay well there you go folks thanks for coming perfect got that's a I don just kidding. Okay. Well, there you go, folks. Thanks for coming. Perfect. I don't think people understand that, though. I don't think people get that that is okay. Because I don't think people do, because I don't... It is and it isn't. It should be okay, but there's a challenge. If it was that easy, no one would ask that question or have that concern. Just keep babbling. I swear to God, we are going to get a little stress ball, and we're going to play the game like they did in school, like you have the ball, and then you throw it to somebody else, and then they talk. I didn't play any games like that. It was a little kid game. It was a little kid. Shannon, we see so many various views on rules and consent. Unfortunately, we see a lot that poo-poo the ideas of rules and consent. Yeah, and that is a challenge. It's a challenge to get people to understand that things are going to evolve. And not that they're going to... Try that again. And this time I'll use English in words. They're not... It's not that things will evolve. It's that things can evolve. But that as they evolve, you have to be willing to adjust to a degree. See, this is the challenge part, though. So this is where it applies back into the newbies, right? Because when people are new, what do we tell them? Communicate. And that you set the, you know, you should create your rules or your boundaries or whatever together, right? Well, why do we do that? Because in theory, I mean, this way everybody is involved, right? So it's, you know, you can't have your job, you can't have set rules in place that only, you know, one department gets to set the rules for all seven departments. All departments need to be represented, right? So the thing is, is that somewhere in that does it change.
Speaker3: No, I'm like, wait a minute, what? Brian put, it can't just be one-sided if you're a couple in the lifestyle. It is a us decision to make it work. Otherwise, it's going to cause big problems. Absolutely. Shannon changes in Vettable and Hotline Games. I can't read. I'm just high. And in that change, communication has to be placed. You can't skip it. Yeah, and that's a huge part of it. And I think that a lot of times we're afraid to – I think that revisiting scares people. Revisiting rules? Not so much rules, but ish, yeah. I mean, I think revisiting the early part of the life, the way things you might have done things or worked through things early in the lifestyle, it scares people. Right.
Speaker2: We didn't even start with rules.
Speaker1: No, we didn't completely fuck. Well, we had, we did.
Speaker2: Well, ish. What, same room?
Speaker1: Well, no, our shit was a little deeper than that, but that's okay. Not a ton. I don't remember a lot. But I am very forgetful, plus'm not very observant and then i can't remember shit so there you go no we had more of a concept than okay yes we had the the physical world same same room yeah same room and no anal we had that okay but we we had a bigger concept than that. We probably should have had more, but we didn't, but we had a bigger concept than that. Well, you didn't see now, but if you doubt it, whether or not you actually believe that, or you just said, do you remember that? No, not really. I don't remember shit, so it's all good. Never mind. So, but I don't, what makes me wonder is, are people afraid to go back to revisit that because they're afraid to step backwards? Like, the part that I was thinking was when I was mowing, trying to drown out the loud-ass new mower. Is it that when you first started, there was a, you know, usually one person was the one, the instigator, right? So there was a chance when you first started that the other person would be like, nope, I'm like, oh, shit, fuck, I'm going to stop. So are we afraid to go back because we're afraid that it goes back to that uncertainty because there was uncertainty when we first started so is it a fear of going back and hitting that part because for some people I suppose that would make sense or some people could see it as a step back I could see that. Because then it will show that they evolved and they probably shouldn't have and set them backwards.
Speaker3: I'm throwing her the ball. For those of you who can't see this, I'm just throwing her the ball.
Speaker1: I'm throwing her the ball.
Speaker2: Well, people want to hear your opinions. My brain is not here, apparently.
Speaker1: Why don't...
Speaker2: It's taking me forever just to follow along with the fucking...
Speaker1: Are you here now? I mean, did it catch up?
Speaker2: Kind of-ish, no?
Speaker4: Kind of.
Speaker1: Well, tell me what you think. Where you think it's at. Because now I'm wondering where you're at. You know, just randomly popped my head, cake. Seriously, don't even know why. I think because I'm hungry. Anyway, so, no, tell me... Thank you. Where do you think it's at? Because now I'm wondering where you're at. You know, just randomly popped my head, cake. Seriously. Don't even know why. I think because I'm hungry. Anyway, so, no, tell me where you're at. I could smell cake. Fuck off. I don't know. I don't know why. How the fuck can you smell cake? I don't know why. I don't know. I haven't made anything with bread. I understand that. I'm just, literally popped. This is like raspberry lemonade drink mix. I don't know where it came from. I don't fucking know why. But all of a sudden, literally, I just... I smoked cake and a cake popped in my brain. Well, I want some fucking cake. Well, I do too, but can we... Do we have remnants of cake in here from the last time? No, we don't. Okay, go back to where we're... Go back to where the fuck we were at, please. Do you even fucking remember where the fuck we were at just a second ago before i said cake i didn't mean to be distracted with cake i don't even know why cake came into my brain because now i want a fucking cupcake or cake god oh i have to go get a blizzard anyways back to where we were at i think they have cake blizzards just saying no we can't have that we're trying to be good we're not no i don't want any cake fuck cake fuck cake okay so back to where we're at what i said it since you were talking at the beginning of it was that yes some people are afraid to go back because then that shows how much they evolved and they go backwards and they step back away from it. So it will set some people back. So, but is that a bad thing? Not necessarily. It depends on the people. Is it? No, I don't agree with that. It's never a bad thing to go back or to go whichever direction, up, sideways, diagonal, if. So I could. Wow. Who's. Okay. It doesn't. Okay, so pause. So if we were to go back and go, you know, we used to only play as a couple. We never played single. Well, gosh, maybe we should just go back to playing as a couple. And that's taking a step back. That's not going. That's not. No. So you're not talking basic. I'm not talking going back and redoing the rules of the before. No. No, I'm talking about it concepts is what I'm talking about. Not the actual rules. Okay, yeah, we used to have the touch rule. No, we don't need to go back to the touch rule. It's about going back and there's the actual problem in the lifestyle. That's probably one of the biggest problems in the lifestyle is that the rules are actually it's not so much that they're a set in stone thing. Think about what most people's rules are. It's not the fucking rules that's important. It's the concept behind the rules that matter. I'll give you a better example. Scouting. Okay. Everybody knows eagle scout vigilante right when you go through boy scouts the value of becoming an eagle scout is not the fact that somewhere along the line you're going to be somewhere and all of a sudden an emergency situation is going to break out and somebody's going to throw a bar of soap and go quick what are we an animal that's not going to solve or fix anything in the world but the concept that it teaches is because we are every day going to be faced with here's something brando you've never done figure it out do the best you can it's the concept so the the rules the we only play together in the same room we're playing together in the same room. It's about the safety net of being together. That's what the rule represents. So a lot of the touch rule didn't represent touching. The touch rule was about ensuring that we were on the same page. That's why we did the touch rule. It just manifested in the actual action of touching, right? And that's, so the problem is, is that the lifestyle, the rules in the lifestyle, yeah, gotcha. Yes, they're a verb. They're a physical action or reaction or physical action or non-action. It's a verb, but that's not what the lifestyle is. That's not what makes the rules so important. The rules themselves can be, you can have rules saying, when we're fucking other people, we won't kill little animals, or we won't fuck cats, and we won't fuck dogs. You can have any rule you want. It's not the rules, it's the concept behind it. It's the concept of creating the rules together, that's what's most important. So the challenge is, as these people are screaming out screaming out they're somewhere in this mid-range thing that they don't feel like they can reach back out they can't go back to more basic concepts because they're stuck in this mentality of yes well because our rules were this back then, no it's totally different ball ballgames. It's not the fucking actual physical rules. And that's the problem with the concept. Larry puts, change is, quit using that word, everybody. Invertible. Inevitable. Inevitable. As we grow in the lifestyle, we become too comfortable taking a step backwards. It wasn't necessary for us at one time. If you're not careful, the lifestyle can get out of control. Absolutely. As a's needle scout i cannot follow the association you're trying to make okay patrick let me put it to you this way very simply the concept of of they teach you emergency preparedness and things that you have to do in case of emergency although they may teach you how to react for a car accident what they're teaching you how to do is how to react and stay calm under pressure as you go through that's the concept of scouting all the way across the board it's to teach you leadership maturity calm thought processes the other actual physical skill sets are just cool little physical things you learn along the way that's not the overall concept of scouting neither is most things most fraternal organizations most organizations the actual physical things they do is not the overall actual primary purpose there's always the bigger concept and a conceptual part that goes with everything that's the whole thing that's what it is
Speaker2: learning just so a button can really help you
Speaker1: learning so a button can really help you and learning so a button will also teach you that when you're away and somebody else can't do it for you I'll see it slide. Laugh out loud. Thanks, man. The challenge in the lifestyle is that, yes, the lifestyle itself is living, breathing. Rules, if you actually think about the concept of rules, rules are not. The Constitution is a living, breathing document. People say the Bible is a living, breathing document. It can be associated and moved with different ideas and concepts, and newer concepts can be applied to it. Rules are not flexible. So when we talk about the lifestyle, you have to talk about the fact that the lifestyle is living, breathing. You deal with emotions. You deal with sexual tension. You deal with growth. You deal with all these different things. Rules don't match. It's a direct conflict. They do not match, but you have to have the rules to avoid the concepts being chaos
Speaker2: because the concept behind the rules is what controls the concept being chaos.
Speaker1: Because the concept behind the rules is what controls the concept of the lifestyle. And that's what gets lost in the translation. That's how people actually cheat in the lifestyle. Think about it. It's not against the rule to fuck other people. That is the lifestyle. The lifestyle is to stick your dick or have other dicks stuck in you. How do you cheat with that? Here, it's in your brain. You cheat the concept is what causes it, not the actions. so that's why when these people are having this huge things where this actions. So that's why when these people are having this huge things where they're at this midway point and they're afraid to revisit, they're afraid to do things, they're afraid to, it's what they have to get back to, in my opinion, and solely my opinion, is that they have to get back to the concepts that made them successful early in the lifestyle. Because let's face it, we've all seen people in the lifestyle that didn't try, that didn't do that. They didn't sit down and work through those rules together. We didn't have set rules, but we had ideas. You were there, I remember.
Speaker3: Trust me.
Speaker1: And we had ideas and we had basic things. The concept, it's the concept that's so important. The sad thing is, is that when you have the mid-range people in the lifestyle, these are the people that, again, those six, seven-year people, that's the future of the lifestyle, right? I mean, that's legitimately, that's your more immediate future of the lifestyle. When those people are in, when you see so many of them in such a huge state of flux, that leads, those are the bulk of the people that are going to be at your big events. Those are the people that are going to be at your meet and greets. Those are the people that are going to influence the direction of the lifestyle events and clubs, groups, pages, blah. And if that group is in huge flux, what does it do to the people getting close to be done or the people more importantly that are brand new? That's why that group is so important, in my opinion. What? No. Everyone should watch this. I swear to God, your look is perfect. I'm like going... Okay. Okay. Oh, what?
Speaker3: What?
Speaker1: Oh. like going okay well yeah okay sweet um no brian it's not how can i make my partner allow me to do this insert whatever act you want here yeah exactly it's really it's the the scariest part of it is that and and maybe part of the problem is that social media exists now or is more predominant that gives people a a false sense of of uh therapy the fault not therapy but a false sense of of of a source of knowledge or like an information bank you know what i mean that that we we put it out there and then it becomes a blind leading the blind so and and maybe that's and maybe so that's what it's more has it's just changed in that if you're doing everything by snail mail you don't go back 20 years whatever you didn't have that so you were forced to solve it as a couple or or as a small group or something maybe that's more what it would be. Plus the people commenting how long have they been in it. Right, right. To be able to give advice or their opinion. Right. Have they experienced anything even close to even vaguely understanding or no? Or are they just a peanut gallery? I remember when the first frickin' Facebook page came out that we were just like, ooh, there's a Facebook page for this. That was so long ago. You know, back when you can post dicks and tits. And then you see some of the answers. You're just like, they're answering, what? It's a horrible thing. Why would you even vaguely? Why would you even say that? People have been like, we've been doing this for two weeks, and this is what we would do. It's like what you should be doing is going shh. That's just that. I don't know. There you go. Well, that was awesome. I don't even think, I don't even know if anybody even vaguely understood the question. Probably not. Well, that was a lot of fun. So, really, the whole test of this show is read Facebook. There it is. There's the whole entire answer. Just read Facebook and it's all-knowing. It's like Big Brother. Go ahead.
Speaker3: What?
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Speaker2: out. Bye.