Krazy Truth about Swinging #260 The 1st overnight

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Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome to another edition of Crazy Truth. We're going to skip right to the important stuff. This is season 6 episode 260. and to celebrate for with one of our sponsors, you know, let's give a quick shout out to our sponsors. Oh, by the way, hey, I'm Cole. I'm the host with the most. I'm here with the lovely, lovely and exceedingly horny and slutty Miss Amanda. Wait, what? Hey.

And we're here to tantalize and titillate. But we're going to do that right after we get to the most very important part of this show, our sponsors. It's not always the most important part, but it is tonight. If you don't, on our YouTube, you need to be. This will make more sense. So, shout out to ASNLifestyleMagazine.com. Three million readers can't be wrong. They rock. Check them out. He's trying to get to the past. The sponsor, it's barbecue season, and we were at our good friends, the folks from SmokinMeatsBBQTreats.com. Thank you.

The sponsor, it's barbecue season, and we were at a good friend's, the folks from SmokinMeatsBBQTreats.com with the meat rubs, and so I said, hey, let's show. I thought she suggested that. I don't know who suggested it. Here's what's important. I have in my hand a rib, a rib from fucking the barbecue that I've not been allowed to eat. This rib has been coated in hickory. That's one of their sauces, or their rubs. And so I want to get to eat this on the air. It's a rub. So here it is. So make sure you go to SmokinMeatsBBQTreats.com. That's S-M-O-K-I-N-M-E-A-T-S-B-B-Q-T-R-E-A-T-S dot com.

To get yours, Thanksgiving, you can tell them more about the other reps they have. Wow. He is just listening to my office. It's grossing me out. Okay, so this is my favorite, Hickory Dust. You can tell me this is. I like it, too. They also have lemon pepper, SPG, orange mango habanero, and pineapple paradise. I've been standing with this motherfucker for two days. How does it taste, Cole? Incredible. Who knows I'm letting goob into my beard so I can taste it later still, because this meat rub makes it incredible.

to tell you what even drunk I stayed out of these and you have no idea how hard that was you can like pause eating and eat it eat it, I'm good eat it afterwards I know you picked it off the bone me. Yes, Amanda has issues eating meat off of a bone. The thing is... But I don't eat a lot of pork. I could, plus. I'm not going to, but I could. Go ahead, you can talk about it as much. Mm-hmm. Wow, who else? You already talked about No More What... You can go in more depth. ASN Lifestyle Magazine, you already talked about them. Who else? Oh, No More Wet Spot. No More Wet Spots.

Blanket to get out of your bodily fluids. I'm telling you what. You want to put that down for a while or are you going to eat that all the way to the bone? That is so gross and we don't want to watch you do it. We might watch you lick stuff. Licking is more appealing than watching you gnaw stuff unless you like to be bitten. I guess some people do. Who doesn't like a good one? I my gosh i know you're not but it just takes me a second people like to just talk about wow just talk about shit mhm cole looking like a It. It's barbecue season. I had to eat these really nice in front of other people.

You should when you're being recorded. Our sponsors are paying us to show how good their meat rubs are. If I'm dangerously eating a rib, it's not showing how awesome their meat rubs are. If I'm attacking it like a barbarian it's not showing how awesome their meat rubs are. If I'm attacking it like a barbarian, because it tastes fucking great. Mm-hmm. Now, one or two things should be happening right now. You should either be, A, getting really horny, meat, rubs, whatever, or really hungry, or both.

Anywho, so there you go you have a towel don't want to lose any I'm not wasting this fucking shit anyways a big thank you for the ribs from there's going to be pictures also of my dick in her mouth with the meat rib on top of her head we haven haven't got to that part yet, but I did agree to that too, by the way. Oh, okay. Anyways, all right. So on with the show. Damn, that was good. Okay. So anyway, it's all right. There you go. This is what we do. If you, look, we go the extra mile for our fucking sponsors, okay? We take things and go to a whole new level.

We don't just sit there and just like daintily fucking advertise your product. We aggressively gnaw that bitch and make it so people know just how delicious or awesome your products are. And you don't have to just sponsor us with food, but you're more than welcome to as well. You gnaw that bitch. I did. Speaking of gnawing and bitches, should we talk about your weekend, shall we? My weekend? This is season, seriously, this is episode 260. We are glad you're all here. And, yeah, we'll go from there. So. Oh, so flash your teeth on. Mm-hmm. Can we talk about shit?

Talk about your pussy and people, no one will care what I'm doing over here. won't care if i have to hear about that the really let's ask the people in our secret facebook group casualty watch anybody want to hear about amanda's pussy i'll wait stop it anyways okay so it was memorial weekend we had a good memorial weekend hope you did too weekend. Short week. That was a messy fucking... That was a messy show. Cool things coming up. We got cool things coming up this next week. This next weekend, all right? Yes. We are going to be... I'm like, what are we doing? I forgot already.

We are going to be... On Saturday, we're going to be at opening a new sex club. We're going to be at a new Swingers Club. Yes, we'll be there. Yep, we're going to be there. So we'll put information on that so you can find that club as well. And also, because I still have ribs on the brain, I can't think of the name off the top of my head. That's horrible. I was going to say, let me grab my phone, but my phone's busy. So we're going to be there. So we're going to do that Saturday night. Paradise City? Formerly known as Paradise City.

I i'm like what do they call it i don't know it's yeah formerly known as paradise city so it's a soft opening of the club so we're gonna be there we're excited we're excited about another swingers club in uh in um nebraska for one i mean a local one so this is gonna be really good so we're super excited about that as well and is just going to be overall a fucking grandiose time so we encourage people i will put stuff out there when the show releases on how you can go ahead and uh get a membership and come get your tickets to go to the saw filming for that so that's going to be really fun we're gearing up of course we're only uh nine days away today officially nine days away from crazy summer nights which actually means we're eight days because in eight days we're going to be going there.

So this show releases on Thursday. The next show is going to release on the day we're going out to KSN for the first one. So a lot of people are super jazzed about that. We do still have camping spots available. I'm super jazzed. You should be because it's your Melee edition. You did really good. Looks like we're going to sell it out pretty close.

So we're going gonna have uh we still have some tickets available you can still go to uh crazy casbah.com and get some camping tickets day passes we encourage people to come out it's gonna be a good time it's all crazy summer nights is fun because it's totally laid laid back totally laid back so awesome so yeah also we're gonna give a shout out larry thank you very much uh larry we just had uh we had how many how many of them were there were like three of our cadets cadets or former cadets as well as knights that were all went to were in vegas just last weekend over memorial weekend and uh they had a great time at whispers so a big shout out to whispers for uh letting our folks come in get pictures wearing their sashes around and and stuff like that and they had a great time so that's awesome thank you whispers but we we love having the relationship so that we can pass this on to the chasm of folks out everywhere they go they have fun places so that's pretty fucking cool so we are going to talk about tonight a little bit we're gonna we're gonna talk about this weekend was weird in a couple ways this weekend this weekend it wasn't weird but it has the potential to to get weird but first we met with a whole bunch of people uh i need to shut that out because that's going to annoy the fuck out of me uh we met with a whole bunch of people and not met with we were out at at events this weekend help me out jump in at any fucking time we went to moonshiners on friday night we went to moonshiners on friday night bar oh my fucking god shut that off we went to moonshiners i got shit popping right i'm gonna silence it i'm talking to the people that can't see our computers why i'm losing my fucking mind anyways so uh we went to moonshiners friday night we had a really good crowd which is always a great time and it was it was fucking fun and then we had we were at other folks from smoking meat barbecue treats they put on a big uh full weekend event at their house it's not it's not just swingers but just overall and we always go there and it was a great great time.

We were talking to some people because there was primarily swingers there. And so we have different phrases. We have different things that we have to remember. So one of the things that we have to remember, these are important things that you need to all keep track of. Get out your handy-dandy electronic device or pen and paper to record these. Amanda made, because they provided meat, like ribs. You're supposed to bring like a side dish or a snack of some variety. And you made, you made cookies. All, what day was that? Friday? Friday, yes. Yeah, because you were gone.

So Friday I made these salted caramel butter cookies. They're fucking delicious.

They're a round butter cookie and then has a uh indention where you pour a homemade caramel and then sprinkle some salt on it she didn't like she thought they came out bad they came out awesome she's like i don't know people are like them they loved them but it's just the first time in 13 years of events your cookie was named your cookie was named and it was named it was the cookie was named and so miss amanda now is the maker of the world famous caucasian butthole cookies because everybody is there we're getting drunker we're eating them they're like look these are caucasian buttholes and so um and really loudly was telling everybody that's what they were yep so officially the official cookie of casbah is now the caucasian butthole i'm actually going to make a couple of batches to take to chaos in charles charles was like this is awesome he was like this is a funny this is the best thing ever uh so it was charles was the one that came up with the name i do believe charles was one that came up with the name and so uh thank you charles for coming up with the name of caucasian buttholes that's the first unusual thing we heard this weekend uh then we also we're gonna have new shirt designs are gonna be coming out because of the next phrase uh which is just this apparently happened at our crazy winter night uh event we We weren't involved.

We weren't in vent. Nope. Yep. And apparently one girl was given a blowjob aggressively, sucking dick. And she sucked dick so aggressively, she gave herself a fat lip. Which is just awesome. And so the phrase now is, a fat lip blowjob, but and so the phrase now is a fat lip blow job but at least i won so apparently she did make him come she didn't quit she didn't let a little fat lip stop her she she gave herself a fat lip and then sucked through to the wind to the wind so fat lip blow job but at least i won so those will be looking for those shirts coming out soon.

Oh, and then because we were talking about the ribs and about going to do the little special promo. No, that's not what that is. That's not what that is? That was the girl that came up behind you. Oh, yeah. So, the other thing that, and this was, this is where we need to have. This is something that happened, and it was funny. We need to have, I need to have gopros on me at all times. I just need to. So you know how it is at a party.

And we've all had this happen where that, you know, that you think it's somebody, you know, and you walk up and like, Hey, and then all of a sudden they turn around, it's not somebody, you know, and that's kind of awkward and embarrassing. Well, by this part of the night, it's all just swingers there. Completely. So, as I was following the hostess to go get, she was making me a shot. Rock on. Imagine that. Hard to believe me having a shot. Anywho, there was kind of a line. She got ahead of me. She was going up to the bar to get me a shot. And there was a gal in front of me.

And her husband had been staying there. And he proceeded. He got somebody started talking to him. So, he turned and walked away.

and there's a gal in front of me and her husband had been staying there and he he proceeded he got somebody started talking to him so he turned and walked away and she's standing and i'm just standing there waiting for her to come back and all of a sudden her hand slowly comes back and starts rubbing across my jeans across over and were onto my dick at this point in time and all of a sudden her her hand and her head were attached because it was at this moment in time I don't know.

were onto my dick at this point in time and all of a sudden her hand and her head were attached because it was at this moment in time her husband had on like shorts I had on jeans and so as her hands going across her head is slowly turning as she's realizing this doesn't feel like her husband and she turns around when her hand is directly on my dick and we're now face face to face. So I'm like, you thought I was your husband, didn't you? That girl turned redder than your shirt. She turned to be red. And she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Yes, I did. Her eyes were this big.

So then Cole proceeds to drag her over to me to tell me. Oh, yeah. And I didn't tell her. I said, hey, come here. And her face is just so red. And I think Cole proceeds to drag her over to me to tell me. Oh yeah, and I didn't tell her. And she's standing and her face is just so red. And I didn't tell her. I'm like, here, tell her. I made her tell the story. That was, yeah. So you know, it was already a good party. It was good food. It was fun people. And then I got groped and her eyes were that big.

If more girls would be that big when they touch my dick that would be the coolest thing ever it's like i mean not like i don't want more girls like shocked and terrified when they touch my dick realizing that what they're touching but that was fucking yeah so that was just our our the overall fun parts of a weekend in a nutshell, right? Okay, so, but that wasn't the part necessarily I want to talk about. I figured. Well, no, don't, don't, it's we help people by our experiences. Okay. Alright, so Amanda was being a total slut this weekend. No. Well, kind of. A little.

This whole weekend been dirty, dirty whore. Since her boy toy moved an apartment not far down the road, it's amazing how much closer it brings people together. Anyways, so, no, what was interesting about this weekend was there was, it would have been Saturday or Sunday night that the plan was, or the concept was, you guys were going to, the concept was, you guys were going to hook up. You knew that part. You guys had planned about hook up.

And this is where this communication is so key and whatever you had, you had said, because at one point you guys have talked about doing the overnight once he got, cause he no longer has a roommate. So once he no longer has a roommate, you had talked about doing an overnight and that's something that's kind of been out there, which that's something we've never done. You know, we've done, no, I won't say everything else because everything I say that, then something really weird happens and we have a lot of things. But that's something that we had never done.

And so we always talk about how anytime you do something new, it truly is a form of leveling up and how you serve it. So I wanted to talk about that the the you had you had said to him very clearly that you were available from sunday night until monday afternoon thinking and and this is where again communication so he thinking well you know he's in but you your thought was that he would understand that meant you were available from Sunday night to you. Basically, it was like hinting to your friend that you could spend the night without saying, hey, invite me over.

Without, because I will not invite myself. No. I have to be invited. And most people would normally pick up with, he's not a swinger. No. He is. He is now. By default. But no, but he's not a swinger. So when you left Saturday, Sunday night, really at that point in time, it was, we had talked about it. We knew that it was possible. But he had never said anything like, yeah, bring an overnight bag, bring a toothbrush, bring your electric blanket so you don't freeze to death. He didn't say any of those things so you didn't know. So there was a degree of uncertainty.

And the reason why this is so important is that what we want to talk about is, again, we say it, but it's important to actually provide the proof, so to speak, of how much it is leveling up. Because most people would say, well, how big of a deal really is it? Because, honestly, when we have talked about it before, we've had lots of conversations about the concept of an overnight.

The first time we ever had a conversation about overnight was almost 13 years ago when we were brand fucking new i was in texas and and the concept was about you were going to go to a town a couple hours away from where i was in texas for a work conference and possibly hook up and then the the concept came up of you know about about staying overnight as it worked out the guy won't really wanted a threesome yeah he didn't want just me but we were we were so new and that was an eye-opening thing because in our conversations because we were having conversations with it came up the opportunity possibly came up while i was in texas so we were doing all this communication over the phone and that was a real scary thing because we hadn't even we hadn't even come close to to to playing alone at this point what the hell are you doing like i don't know something like i thought the bird attacked me we hadn't even come close to to playing alone like we weren't even, we were were we'd only had a couple of experiences even hooking up at this point in time so it obviously it was a pretty emotional conversation especially then where we are you know at that point in time because like I said it was out in Texas so it was weird how that conversation went because I'm going it'll be okay if you want to do it and both of us were you could see right through how you could tell how uncertain and how uncomfortable I was I could tell uncomfortable you were and it was kind of something that actually that conversation probably was a precursor to delay but we also didn't know him right we didn't know anything we knew him only from camming yeah on adult friend finder yeah what we didn't know was we didn't know shit about the lifestyle no we the best thing that happened was that didn't happen because we were nowhere close to the point of ready to experience we weren't even even close to the point of experience playing alone.

Let alone anything else. So, but that whole experience was like, I think we went through just like when we first started. Before we started, you said, why would I want to fuck anybody else? Right? And then is that... No, it's not living it reality. It shows how we've progressed. And there was a time that we played and we said we would never play alone. There was a time we'd said we'd never play separate rooms. Yeah. And, of course, we went shooting past that. There was a time we said we'd never play alone.

It was five years later, and now we rarely play together so you constantly are crossing boundaries there was a time that we said we would never that an overnight would never happen that's not anywhere close to where we're at now at all but we've developed a bigger trust than we already had. We have. We have. And our communication is better and stronger, which our communication is already good. I was going to say, that's hard to believe. But here's the part why I want to talk about it, though.

Even though we're there and we've taken each one of the steps, making that transition to that, opening that door to that next level.

We said said all the time you can't unsuck that dick right you can't it's the same thing with this when you level up and you do this you can't ever go well that just didn't happen no it did happen and and our conversation i think our conversations have been funnier talking about it now that's part of what i want to talk about too was we've had conversations about well i'm notorious for going having long fuck sessions when i go play they tend to be very long right so we've talked and add your interjection with the two obviously but we talked about the fact well is it really any different than a long fuck session with me i mean how much because you've talked, you know, remember when we first went, it was like, well, how much sleeping would we really even be doing?

Right. It's bizarre how the fucking is no big deal. The fucking's not an issue. It's the sleeping. That, that's seriously, I mean, tell me if you don't agree, but that's, that's serious. but it's the sleeping that that's seriously i mean tell me if you don't agree but that's more intimate that's serious but it's sleeping what do we do when we sleep we fucking fart and burp and sneeze and seal covers and and get up and piss and we look like shit and we get nasty breath but that's the part that's the big like holy fuck in the whole thing. Yeah. Really.

And so that's part that kind of, like, it throws a weird bum because it goes against. I'm already okay with, you fucked him twice this weekend. You fucked him Sunday and Monday. You did a date type thing with him Sunday. Or Monday, I mean. Yes. Did you hold hands? No. Well, it was hot and sweaty. Yeah, it was hot and sweaty. But did you make out with the car? Did you lovey-dovey at all? Or did you just walk and not talk? I know that's what you probably would have liked to have done, but did you just walk and not talk? No, it was walking and talking. Right. It was a date-ish type activity.

I mean, I got to his apartment and I said, okay, we're going to do a quickie roll. And he's like, okay. Okay, you'll whore it out first. I'm just kidding. No, but the activity, we have to be real for people. There was a time that that, okay, we'll go back when Cole wasn't ready for shit early on playing alone you had a guy that i knew ish not in the group anymore we used to be but didn't know him real well that wanted to play with you you went to you went to he cooked you dinner you went to his house he cooked you dinner, you went to his house, he cooked you dinner, had the music thing.

Surely you remember this because Wendy and I both yelled at you about it. Oh. And the discussion that we had, the heated discussion that we had. It wasn't dinner involved, but that's okay. Anyway. Drinks, whatever. The heated discussion that we had, and Wendy sided with me in the whole thing, was that you weren't Thank you.

but that's okay anyway drinks whatever the heated discussion that we had and wendy sided with me in the whole thing was that what you weren't treating it like a date in your mind it wasn't a date you were going to go play that was what the whole thing was in his mind and based on his actions it was a date we had that huge discussion about date activities so there was a time in mind this was fucking seven years ago there was a time time. Not quite that long ago. Yeah. Wendy wasn't that long ago. Five years ago. It doesn't matter. That's an old person thing. Like five.

The thing is, is there was a time, though, that that. So going to do a date type thing would have been like a huge thing. I'm trying to show the progression thing is what I'm trying to show. I was just trying to save your ass from taking off.

No, I know what you were trying to do, but what i'm trying to show i was just trying to save your ass from taking off no i know what you were trying to do but i'm what i'm trying to do i'm picking on you shut up i'll fucking shove a bone down your throat really hard bone soft anyways uh the the thing is is how much how far you progress how far we progress but us. So, but the reality of it is, is that even with complete comfort, knowing that in our relationship, our rules are very simple. You can go fuck somebody and go, oh, by the way, I fucked somebody today.

And that's perfectly within our guidelines and rules. And vice versa. And we've done that with no issues. It was still.

Actually, I don't know if we've ever done like a post thing yeah you have i mean work guy yeah yeah a couple times ago okay by the way oh hey i well beforehand i said oh my god i think we're gonna go fuck one a couple times you didn't because like it came up the opportunity presented itself right here right now type thing the other night the thing was yeah i said hey there's a chance this might happen i didn't pre-warn you of what all was going to fucking happen that night though that i had no clue what all was going to happen that night but none of us know but the thing is is that we have well gotten through that but even even with the pre-discussions even being totally 100 um having discussed it knowing coming in, it still fires up a different set of emotions when it hasn't happened yet.

Okay. So, like, did it, did, and this is not, there's not, I'm not fishing for an answer, so let's pre-rex this. And honestly, I don't think you're gonna have an answer that that i would because of the fact you were in the moment was there anything in the thought process that was weird unique or different the thought of spending the night for you when you were going over there when you didn't know no do you think that if it had been pre-set up yes we're gonna go i to go, I'm going to go spend the night, that there would have been? Yeah. Well, ish.

I mean, to me, sleeping next to somebody really isn't. Sleeping side by side unless you're cuddling. Which is exactly what you do because it keeps the apartment cold as fuck. You're not going to spend the night. I'm going to be laying up in fucking 10,000 clothes.

But you're not going to – it's not like you're taking you're gonna you're not gonna spend the night i'm gonna be laying up in fucking a ton ten thousand clothes it's not but you're not you're not gonna it's not like you're taking a ruler and you go okay we're gonna spend the night i'll be on the couch and you be on the bed we're just you know we're eating our own sleeping bags that's not how that's gonna happen you know that i mean i can understand the challenge is the person that's doing it you're gonna have a level of excitement because you're doing it you're gonna do something that's fun yeah anyways so everybody likes to sleep over even when you were a little kid i never really cared about i never did a lot of sleepovers maybe it was more a girl thing maybe i could be the the thing is is that a what it doesn't surprise me i didn't figure you probably did because there was a huge degree of uncertainty with it and of what was going on.

And, again, the person that's going to do it is going to go do something fun. It's kind of like when somebody goes on vacation at your job, right? They're all fucking excited because they're going on vacation. And they're trying to be excited, and everybody else is kind of like, eh, they're not going on vacation. So it's not that you're not happy or not. It's just a different level. Right? So then here would be the next question. And we have not had this discussion yet. When he obviously absolutely did not get the message in the lease and completely fumbled on the play.

Were there any, did you feel, and I'm interested to hear this response, were you disappointed, or did you feel anything? This is a question normally women have. You want to make a sentence? I'm fucking thinking, how, bitch?

Now, I'm'm gonna do this because normally this would be a discussion i wouldn't have a shade did you feel disappointed or like fuck shit that bummed pissed whatever that you weren't going to spend the night no did you really care at all do you really care about anything at all fucking emotional as hell she just shuts all that shit off i do well we're like three and a half years on fucking this guy we aren't fucking but you are like a boss you've had numerous conversations now regardless you don't want to hear him no i don't want him yeah but you, it's not like you don't know who he is and all this stuff.

For me, no. I actually disengage a lot of the emotional aspects of it. Do you think it will change anything in your and his relationship? You don't like to use the word relationship.

I'm to use relationship because as relationship under the the guise of two people if you interact with someone that's a former relationship not boyfriend whatever but do you feel that it will change and alter your relationship with him once you transition over to having an overnight no not on my end but okay but what well it's kind of important if it changes on his end don't you think well right but i don't know how he's going to react i don't know how he'll behave i don't know right all i know is the fucking aspect for the last i mean we were even laughing because during our walk, whatever you want to call it, we're talking about that there was somebody that brought up like several people bring up sex in the workplace and, and I'm like, well, you know, it works out, you know, a lot of people run.

And I'm like, well, you know, it worked out. And he goes, yeah, but the other person has to be okay with it too right so he's like but it just happened to work out well you found each other see now this is funny your response for those of you not watching this her response is off because it pisses you off you're you're somewhat in denial about the concept of what your relationship is no it's just i try not to give everything fucking labels. Three and a fucking half years, it gets a label. He's a good fuck.

When you first start when you first start it's just a can in the in the fucking emergency cellar it doesn't matter doesn't need a label on it by the time you're like year five you want to know if you're open a can of lima beans or if it's fucking spam or what you need a fucking label on it. If you're going to the point of having a sleepover, that's more than just a good fuck. Isn't it? Wait a minute. We have to back up. Back up. Be very careful. Be very careful. That first night that we met 31 years ago. It was a one night stand and we kept coming back. You stayed the night.

I did stay the night, but we fucked the whole night. We slept a little, but every time we rolled over, we started fucking. See why I'm nervous? No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm not nervous. But you have to think that to a degree, you have to think to a degree, you go, well, you know, the communication there, blah, and I get all that. At three plus years, you can only continue to go friends with benefits for so long. I disagree. There's a denial there. No, I just disagree. Then why would you want to spend the night? And wait, stop telling me I said it.

I'm not, I do not have, I do not have a problem with you spending the night. I know. Is it going to be weird as fuck? Yes. Does it invoke all the fucking, just like we always say, starting over emotions? Abso-fucking-lutely.

Which it should should that you are re-leveling up it's a brand new thing that does not mean i have a problem with it but what i i've always felt like that you've denied being honest about how you feel because it doesn't fit into the parameters that when we first started we'd always say that people that had a boyfriend girlfriend before we knew all you poly folks before we understood it that to have a relationship to have a boyfriend a girlfriend lifestyle meant that something was missing in your in your relationship well i know that's not true well we know that's not true nothing's missing in our relationship but i can also we we had the discussion we know completely 100 without a doubt lack of communication absolutely took what was somewhat of a poly relationship that we had and demolished it so i push on it because like i look back now and know that if i would have said the things i should have said and being honest if we honest, if the three of us would have had the honest conversations that none of us wanted to have.

Probably more you and her. Well, yeah, but she would have had to know it from you, too. But if her and I would have had the honest conversation that we should have had, we were both afraid to say the L word because we were like that. Yeah, Tom's a little. So the thing is, so now it's like, I think for me, part of the reason it's an interesting dynamic for me is that you dig the, we give you tons of shit about him, and he is a great fuck for you, whatever, but history doesn't have to repeat itself. So in my mind, knowing how I work, knowing how I am, Mm-hmm.

But history doesn't have to repeat itself. So in my mind, knowing how I work, knowing how I am, choking on rib meat, hickory dust, knowing how I work, it's always going to be a concern to me that you are not being honest with yourself. And I would hate for you to throw something the way that you liked for not breaking out of those parameters that you've set for yourself. Well, if you remember a while back, we talked about it and talked about feelings and there was love developing, but then it totally took a backward turn to where it's more friends. Right.

Okay, hold on, we have some great ones here uh this would like to know how do you take us okay someone to a room with having an emotion for you okay we'll come back to that uh three years of solid fuck damn lucky uh wife and i started the same way i just, I have a friend who's been up now for like five or six years. Nothing else is there. Okay. Uh, Brandy, some people attach and some do not understand how each other works. Then you can best support each other and be honest. Absolutely. There's another big one in the list. Yeah. Eric's, uh, where'd it go? Is it strange?

We believe if you spend a night away, it leads down a road. A partner or not feeling like number one. All men are jealous in some aspect. Sad as that sounds, I do believe that. No, look. But it's not like it's going to be like an every night type of thing. I mean, no. Well, first, Eric, there is no right or wrong. No. Again, here's the thing with this. It is truly choose your own adventure. And if that's legitimately how you feel, those are legitimate feelings. And so that is something that, yeah, you probably should steer away from. For us, it's different.

Yeah, I'm not worried about being every night. I think it'll be interesting. You're my number one, and you always have it. Right. It's because I'm loaded. The thing is, it's like when you're a kid, and your friends invite you to stay the night.

You want to have a sleepover and you always have it right but it's because i'm loaded no the thing is is it it's like it's like when you're a kid and your friends invite you to stay the night you want to have a sleep over and you're up playing all night long eating shit food are you saying you're eating as you're eating that ass shit food thank you i'll be here all week long baby that's horrible i know it is sorry i apologize and then and then you go home and it doesn't happen even once a month it's like every during the summer it's intolerant but every but during the summer it can be every other night it can happen way more often yeah here did you have because i sure here's the here's the that's going to be the next thing that's going to be interesting is to see how often it's new when it's new it's fucking fun and it's exciting and it's all those things so what'll be interesting is how how much when that door is opened initially that you go through that door not you but how much he wants it how much because it is going to be fun and and honestly in my opinion, I think that part of my role, if I'm okay with what's going on, which I am, that means I have to be okay with the initial newness factor, the newness surge.

Well, there's going to be an odd, I mean, it'd be odd initially anyway, first time you do it. Because it almost happened, what, three years ago? Yes. Two years ago. Has it been three years already? No, two. Yes, but... So I could justify that. So the situation was you went and visited somebody who was on a business trip at Standard Hotel.

They were about three hours away-ish three or four hours away and the discussion was basically safety factor of driving home not having not being too tired to drive home whatever we talked about it again totally knew the person totally okay with that part of it there was a potential of it happening so we talked about it because that's what we do we don't wait wait to talk about shit until after it happens. We talk about it ahead of time. Is it okay? We're all okay with it. You didn't end up staying. I can honestly say, for me, it was easier to justify. Because of safety purposes?

I didn't have the emotions. But what about when he was supposed to go to Kansas? I had issues. And we talked about going out to Kansas. I didn't know. I can't say that. That's the wrong way to say it. I didn't have issues. I had, I had, it stressed me. It stressed me. It was like a dog knee. It stressed me a little bit. And I'm going to touch on why. It was easy to justify when I could go, well, for safety.

It's like it gave me an escape, deniability plausible deniability which is not the way to deal with anything because we had discussed it and and you were very very adamant about making sure are you okay with this i mean that was your primary there was no like people need to understand there was no were, like, trying to weasel away to get to pull this off. There was none of that at all. And I was, and again, but it was easier to justify. So, Saturday, or Sunday, or whatever fucking day this week is.

So, Sunday, it was funny, because, honestly, after you left, you know, I'm working on shit, and I feel like shit, my allergies are just going fucking through the roof anyways right so I don't really feel like shit so I wanted to be working on shit but it was there just a little finger finger in the back and I started to laugh at one point in time because what it reminded me of the way I felt the way I felt and and well it's two separate things my thought process and the way I felt were two different things but the way I felt seriously was more like the first time you went and played alone Really?

It was, there was a sense of, of, uh, uneasiness, of nervousness, of, you know, what are you missing? What are you, you know, like, got restless, got, got restless, got restless, got had a stroke, got restless. Almost a degree of agitation. Not angry agitation, just agitation. Just felt caged, felt, you know, just like, you just, the only thing that made it worse was that that first time all those years ago, it was the first time, and we were only halfway into where we're at now in our journey in this whole thing. So that was like this huge fucking step.

And in my own mind, I'm going, there's no reason for this to be that big of a deal because it's not that big of a deal then there were still all those fears of what if which were irrational back then those aren't here now those aren't you know i'm not worried about you ditching me i you know all those gone but it still triggered the same feelings well i think initially it's going to it well and that's part of what the point to get to with it is. Because you're going to sit there pondering about what are they doing now? Oh, they're just watching a movie? Oh, okay. Which almost is worse. What?

Seriously. Watching a movie? Yeah. Did you want to watch Ghost Rider with us or what? No. The point here, see, you won't go through this when the roles are reversed. Probably not. Because, one, you won't actually honestly admit it, you do, because you don't. Yeah. But you go to bed early, so you're used to, and I'll, no, I'll think this too. No, true. You go to bed at nine o'clock at night, right? You're used to fucking, we don't go to bed at the same time. I'm up till two in the morning.

So basically, your way you can solve that issue is, instead of going to bed at 9.30, you go to bed at 8.30. I've seen you do it. I know you can. I know you will. And that's how you make it so you don't deal with it. No, you think I don't deal with it. It's a defense mechanism. It makes it easier.

No, because there was a time when we had that that convention thing in minnesota yes and you went and stayed at her house yes and i'm like well but we are y'all had a thing well y'all made up the distinct rules not to fuck i never said that the fuck you didn't the fuck you didn't i don't remember you did it was y'all not having no what it what it was she didn't want to have sex in her house or what let me tell you let me tell you how that actually went down okay how'd it go down no with her and i there no i know what happened you told me what happened we, it was, she was ready to go ahead and have sex there.

We didn't because our thing at that time had been, you said, and what you said, you weren't being mean. You said, you guys aren't going to have sex. You're just staying over the night, right? Yeah. And well, you were doing, because we were down for a stop to get up early for me to go in the morning. You weren't trying to be a bitch. It's, but we both, neither one didn't want to fucking break that rule. We, no. Let me rephrase that. We really wanted to break that rule. I mean, we really wanted to break that fucking rule. Okay.

Like, we couldn't, which I didn't think a kid was ever going to get the fuck out of there And then it's like We acknowledged we wanted to That was pretty new And we were definitely not having the right Open conversations Wasn't that fairly new in that whole mess? Uh ish But we definitely January to April We had the conversation Because you were coming up the next morning to pick her up the next day. And we were having the conversation, and we had the conversation of, both of us knew, we both agreed, neither one wanted to lie to you. Neither one was going to lie to you.

That's not how we were going to roll in any way, shape, or form. No, we shouldn't either, anyway. Neither one of us had the courage to just get up and call you. Okay. Because we were like, that's, you know, she's like, she's going to be pissed. She said, no, we're not doing that. And I didn't want to piss you off. And it's like, no, I don't want to worry about it. And then we both laughed at the fact that we'd be so easy to give away. You would know in a second if we did anything. Because you would have fucking known in the car. She wouldn't have been able to hold it together.

She wouldn't have been able to look at you. And as soon as she got there, I wouldn't have been able to look at you. Because I'm such got there i wouldn't be able to look at you no but the thing is it just it is what it is did we want to yes did we again we weren't having the right conversations at all but it's y'all didn't weren't sleeping in the same room anyway no no we weren't we weren't too again we wanted to we didn't we fought those words so the the is, she got me totally butterflied there with this whole thing. The thing is, is that I just found it interesting how much more challenging.

I haven't had, we haven't had a new first for a long time. Yeah. And I laughed about thinking how you would go to bed earlier when the roles are reversed. Because we know if it happens once, it's going to happen when it works. No, I don't go to bed out of, to avoid shit. You just do it anyways. I do it out of boredom. Right. So you'll go to bed. You'll go to bed. I'll go to bed at five o'clock at night out of boredom. Right. So, but that's like, I can't do that. So that leaves me more time to be up milling around around and fucking pondering. Yeah.

And honestly, if I'm just like, well, they're just fucking, that's easy. It's the, it's the, the, all the other parts of it that seem, it's weird because we don't deal with the intimacy issue anymore. We don't have that. So, but it's just, it normal-sizes it. Oh, bless you, next MC is on the ribs. It normal-sizes it. Fucking gross. It just makes it more normal, and that's the part that is, that's the unknown. Because that's the part picturing you doing shit with somebody else that we would do. Actually, we wouldn't, because I'd be working and doing my own shit.

We wouldn't kind of watch movies, but you know what I mean. Being like a couple is the part that is the new.

You'd sleep in the bed for the whole same three hours yeah well i get it really i'm just saying okay so my thing is when the roles are reversed what oh that really i'm glad i'm glad one of us has enough estrogen for both of us It's not me because i'm no shit um so so when you got a text from me saying that i was home were you relieved uh i don't know i i there was a sense of like relief disappointment i felt bad for you i was like well fuck that sucks i was like how did you fuck how did i get fucked up there was the concept of miscommunication there was the concept of all right okay shwoo not not shwoo but it's like okay well it instantly shut off all those other those other side like it shut off the stupid basically what was funny then was on monday you fucking told them that he fucking...

That I would have stayed at night. Right. So here's what's funny with that. You said you weren't disappointed. Rock on. But you didn't let him figure it out on his own. And this is... No. This is not trying to... I'm not trying to lecture. I'm not anything i'm just no well that's for them i make sure they know him and i don't have the communication that you and i do right so i kind of have to clue him in on the stuff that he's stupid about so but can you see yeah but you clue me on the stupid stuff too can though? I can tell you that because I've known you for 31 years.

Can you see, though, from my perspective, how then it's like, it doesn't, it's funny, but it makes you go, it's kind of like somebody going. Ow. Right. It doesn't, it's not a long-term pain, but it's kind of like, eh, it's a twinge. No, it still kind of hurts. so when so like, it's the, my brain goes to, and it's totally okay, and I believe this in the case, you want to. You really want to do the overnight.

Because in my mind, it's staying up and fucking and taking a nap and then getting up and fucking again and taking a nap When in reality that ain't gonna fucking happen Well I don't know But I'm pretty sure it's not gonna happen See I don't believe that you're being honest with yourself on that I don't believe you're being honest with yourself on that I don't On what? Thinking we're gonna, thinking we're going to fuck all night? No, no, that, I have no idea. No. That it is just, it's just like fucking taking a nap and fucking and I don't, no, I don't. To me, it's like a slumber party.

If you've never been to one, you don't know. No, I have been. I don't, I'm not, I don't think so. I don't think you're being honest with yourself on that. And obviously, I have no way to prove that, but I don't think you're being honest with yourself on that. What do you think I want?

I think that, I don't know, it's not a want thing, but for me, that is going to be like, I haven't spent the night, I haven't spent the night with another woman for 31 years right it's kind of like the first time you play alone it's like it's dirtier when you play alone even nobody knows what's going on i to me there's like i kind of want to see what it feels like serious i mean i mean, honestly, that sounds stupid. What it feels like, what, for you to stay over somewhere, or for me to stay over somewhere? Well, I'm worth thinking about it for myself, kind of. Okay. Well, no, I'll come on.

Of what that feels like. Who wants to invite Cole to come stay the night? No, I mean, it's just like the first time playing, it's just like the first time playing alone. The excitement, sex is sex is sex. Fucking is fucking. The excitement of the first time playing alone was to feel what it felt like the first time playing Thank you.

sex is sex is sex fucking is fucking the excitement of the first time playing alone was to feel what it felt like the first time playing alone married i'm married i we had been married for a long time i hadn't been alone with my dick out with a chick for a long time it was like oh wow that was as exciting as the sex part it made the sex better because it was just like the whole thing was just like jojo the circus monkey a whole bunch of kid on sugar fucking crack and you're just like oh but that's that's the that feeling and and i can't help but think that that feeling is going to be the same the first time you spend a night over with somebody it'll be harder for me because i won't take my c CPAP machine because that would be weird.

I won't breathe. I won't sleep really good. I'll snore out and scare the hell out of them. Yeah, scare them. Do you see what I'm saying with that? I think that isn't there even a part of you that goes, you haven't slept alone with another guy, as far as I know, for 31 years. You haven't spent... Do my kids count? No. So, I mean, is there any part of that that's like that doesn't cross into your shit at all? No, because I'm actually really detached. I think that's just cruel and wrong. You're the one that goes, come on, Amanda, don't you want to try swinging? It's just sex.

It's just fucking other people. And then when it gets to an all-nighter of staying all night so you can get up in the morning and have breakfast. This is not a hotel. You use breakfast as a selling feature for any hotel we've ever sent. But they have a breakfast. You cannot use breakfast as a selling feature to stay overnight with a dude and fuck. I didn't say that. It's just, it's just so. And that motherfucker ain't going to cook you breakfast in the morning anyways. No, probably not. You don't get up and cook me breakfast. If you're going to go over to somebody else's house.

That is a lie, because I have made you breakfast. You have over the 31 years, yes. There's sometimes I've surprised you and sometimes I ask. That's true. I've surprised you a dick in the morning, too. That happens. Not very often. Not very often, no. But I mean that.

No, but it's just,'ve surprised you with dick in the morning too that happened not very often but i mean that no but it's just it's to me i don't know it to me it's okay that's kind of a that's funny it it's rob it's mad in my opinion can be kind of annoying because you're used to the way of your way of sleeping right i can actually see that i don't think i'd be able to sleep because i think it'd be like oh my god i'll be waking up looking over going then he told me he snores i'm like well that's nothing new but chewing your arm it's actually been how long that you've had a c-pap that i haven't heard you snore so it's just like yeah you said you wouldn't miss it when i was dead so it's all right whatever the thing is is it's i think that the whole reality of it is is that it's not a bad thing It's just.

No, it's all right. Whatever. It's true. The thing is, I think that the whole reality of it is that it's not a bad thing. It's just... No, it's just sex. It's actually just like a sleepover. Seriously, it's like a sleepover with your friends. I don't buy... I think that you say that now. I don't think... I don't believe that you will have that. It will be as... I don't think it will be the same way when the roles are reversed. I think you'll be very supportive when the roles are reversed because you have been and we get fair play. But I don't think you'll just be like, it's just a sleepover.

I don't buy that. Let's see. We started watching Spider-Man. I distracted him. We went to the bathroom and fucked. You're going to make the assumption with me because you know me.

You're going to oh we're gonna fuck because you know me i'm not gonna lie to you about what we did no i know you're not but you're gonna assume with me when i'm doing a sleepover you're not gonna assume that any of that shit i'm not gonna fucking cuddle because she's hot as fuck you don't cuddle with me you're not gonna cuddle with somebody else i'm not stupid so yeah so but i'm just i just i think that I don't cuddle with me. You're not going to cuddle with somebody else. I'm not stupid. So, yeah. But I'm just, I just, I think that I don't think our sleepovers will be totally different.

Because I don't, I'm not one to just sit and fucking watch TV now. I don't do that. So, it's like, it's almost, that's the part that I think is the learning curve. Is that, no, you don't, you won't wonder what, you won't have that same, that same thought process, because you, there's no way in hell you're going to think I'm going to sit there and cuddle and watch fucking TV. I know. Because you know me. You know it's not going to happen. It's going to be sitting around naked, fucking, then sitting around yapping, then fucking some more. And drinking and fucking doing whatever.

And that's the way that's going to work. And you might want to go sleep on the couch. And that's the way it will be. But that's the difference. If you thought, you definitely would not be all like, yay, it's just a sleepover. If all of a sudden I come back went, and then we sat and we watched two movies and we cuddled and we played cards. No, I wouldn't think two shits about it. Bullshit. No. Don't tell people you are that fucking shut off. You are not that shut off. No. If you are, then you are going to start taking some estrogen. Shut up. Have some estrogen. Have some estrogen. Get an ovary.

I have two ovaries. Shut up. Turn them up, baby. Turn them up. They're shutting down on their own. It's not my fault. I don't feel that that would happen. I wouldn't be concerned about you going over to somebody's house and staying the night. I don't think there's going to be some type of a, you're going to put me number two because you went and stayed overnight at somebody and they became number one. Well, no. I don't worry about that either. That's not something that I'm concerned about. Am I concerned about feelings? No. You two fuckers are whooped on each other. Yes, we are.

I've seen you with two other women getting a little smitten with them and it just didn't faze me. And me. And one bullshit woman pissed you the fuck off. Well, she was trying to take my place. That was a totally different story. That was. That was a totally different story. She wasn't a swinger. No. She just wanted a husband and she wanted one just like you. I could see through that bullshit. Right. We just have to make you see that bullshit.

Do you not think that he would love to have a relationship like you what wife would he be what wife would you be number three not happening you don't think he likes somebody like you that was stable not batshit crazy probably hot likes pussy on top of it you don't think he'd be all down I didn't say he wouldn't be all down with it. You don't think he'd be all down? I didn't say he wouldn't be all down with it. I don't think he'd close a deal. But I just had the point just, you know. No, so how did the night end? Here's how the night ended. We're watching Ghost Rider.

And he goes, I'm going to have to go to bed. I'm falling asleep. Mind you, this is what, 10, 1030? I'm like, okay. So I proceeded. We'd already gotten dressed. I'm sitting on the couch. So I proceeded to put my socks and shoes on. I grabbed my purse. I said, okay. I'll talk to you later. There's your first problem. I don't understand. You get dressed way too fast. If you wanted to keep going, keep your fucking pants off. Because it's fucking cold. Put your shirt on, but keep your fucking... Yeah, but I already fucked twice. So? Okay, great start. What do you want? Keep your fucking...

Put a shirt on, keep your pants off. Okay, great question. Would you be concerned if it was Vanilla? The answer is... If what was Vanilla? If the person you were fucking was Vanilla. Here's the thing. Her guy is. Yeah. Ish. I mean, he's getting there. He was in it a long time ago, but he's been far removed. Would it be different if I was fucking somebody with Vanilla? Would it raise the cackles, so to speak? Well, it did the one time, but she was looking for a husband. Okay, that's a different, she was an extreme. But overall, what it raised the cat is.

As long as the other one was understanding that we were swingers. Right. You know, that's. Even swingers sometimes want lots of attention. Or lots of time. I have one of those. It wants lots of attention, lots of time. Yeah have one of those. It's lots of attention, lots of time. Yeah. I'm just curious. The bottom line is, here's the thing. This is one thing I don't want people to leave the show thinking. Is the overnights going to happen? Yes. It's really a natural progression of where we're at anyways in the lifestyle. I mean, quite honestly, I don't see.

Do I ever do i ever see us well here we go i'll say this again do i ever see us doing like the separate vacation thing no i don't see that at this point no no i mean i could maybe see uh you know maybe you're going on a girl's fucking vacation trip type thing. I could see that. And would you probably get laid on it? Yeah. I mean, but I mean, just honestly, no, probably not. With him packing up bags and going somewhere. Of course, I almost offered to take him out to Colorado. But that was just a. That, yeah.

But, you know, everything happens as it's supposed to, and that would have been probably not a good choice. You'd have killed him. But the thing is, do I think as it's supposed to, and that would have been probably not a good choice, you'd have killed him. But the thing is, do I think that it's going to happen? Yes. The warning I put out to everybody is, again, understand, once you cross a certain bridge, you don't ever have to cross it again, but you can't undo what's already been done. Yeah. And you have to know that.

And you have to know that, you know, that you have to know it's I don't feel bad for feeling all the emotions I felt Sunday night because because it is natural.

And because quite honestly, if you're not feeling them at all, if you don't, if it's better to feel them and understand that's OK, it's not it's not wrong feel that so it also doesn't there's a there's a panic factor that can happen just you shut things down i don't like how it feels that's the wrong way to do it you're gonna feel it we've talked about the fact that when the first time it happens look will it be odd the first time for me because i don't go to bed when you do the first time i'm going to bed here oh by yourself yeah absolutely well that that you're going to have that so is it something where i need to find you some girl to go slay the night over and so you have that experience first having it first won't make any difference you don't think because i hooked up with somebody by myself.

I played alone before you did. Right. And no, it doesn't change the progression of it. It really doesn't. I think that was part of my mindset or not. The opportunity was there that I probably could have played Sunday night. But part of the reason I didn't as well is that I'm not one to believe that you can run away from how you feel. And using distractions to avoid it doesn't solve anything. The first time you played alone in Texas, I was on the phone with friends of ours. No, you were in Texas. I was in Texas. You were up here.

I was on the phone with friends of friends of ours that basically talked me for three hours talked me off the ledge talking talk not off the ledge but talked me got me through it so to speak the problem with that is is it didn't change the next time you played alone you still have to deal with it it's kind of like it's like a death you can run from dealing with it all you want, eventually you're going to have to deal with it. It's kind of like, it's like a death. You can run from dealing with it all you want. Eventually, you're going to have to deal with it. It will catch you.

So you can either choose to face it or you can choose to hide from it. Well, here's the deal. Going and, you know, well, you're going to spend the night somewhere, so I go hook up with somebody else so that I can basically avoid it. No, that's a horrible idea. When I first went to college, when I first went to college, mom did first drop me off, didn't know anybody the whole nine yards, had a couple days before class started, before most people moved in.

I would stay up super late, right, until like four in the morning so that I would sleep most of the day to avoid that feeling not knowing anybody i learned when i was 18 years old that doesn't work and so that's the same thing with something like this it's the same thing with any part of making changes in lifestyle you can't you just have to own it and deal with it and get through the emotions and then make the decision of whether or not that's something you can handle or not. So that's so much. Okay. Do whatever the fuck we want. It's our show. We can go fucking seven days at one. Non-stop.

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