Krazy Truth #72 Boring old Swinging

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Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth. I'm your host with the most, I am Cole. I'm here with the lovely, lovely and brand new redhead, Miss Amanda. Hey. And we are here to titillate you with our unique perspective on all things crazy in the world. This is season two, episode 72. Since we've been forgetting to do that. I've been forgetting to do that shit.

And we are here to, yeah, we're good to go. Look at us go right on time and everything. We got people coming in live and all kinds of shit. What's up with that? Oh, shit. It's like people are excited to hear us yammer. Well, me yammer. I yammer more than you yammer. You yammer more than I do. I know. I'm kind of quiet. Shh. I can't wait for winter for the studio. Not outside. Are you seriously? I am freezing. It may be colder than shit in the studio. You never know. I hope not. That would suck ass, wouldn't it? I'm going to start bringing a blanket. Oh, that's what everybody wants to see.

Well, look, here's hot Miss Amanda covered like Mandook. It'll be perfect. Hey, I'll grab a coat. It's all good. All right. Well, we can always light our little fire back here. You have your lighter with me? I always have my lighter. Do I have my lighter with me? Does a fucking bear shit in the woods? Of course I do. Absolutely I do. Looky there. Boom. This way we can be all fucking scented and romantic. I've been running out a lot during the week. That's why the studio doesn't fucking you know Hey Leah. For those of you who don't know, we do have our secret, secret Facebook page. Shhh.

And they get to listen to our stuff live. Leah's on there and she goes, yeah, we're away. I like that. See, I knew she was cool. I told you. I was like, she's cool as shit. She likes to hear me talk. Look at that glow. Oh, isn't that fucking romantic?

We oh my god here in a little bit all right so uh we okay so we've got some we actually have some really unique questions tonight i that we this is some of the most unique questions we've had in a little while actually really yeah oh yeah i was when i got him this week i'm like well i'll be damned we got actually thinking shit fuck what are we gonna do we're gonna do that thinking okay so uh i was trying to figure out the order i want to do this in but i think i think i know which order i'm going to do this in now okay so let's dive right into the show hey by the way so you know obviously the past couple weeks we haven't ran with a sponsor.

We've got some new sponsors that we're working on, so we will have sponsors again. And I don't know, that one really crazy guy may come in at halftime. We'll just have to see. God-given luck, right? Okay, so our first question comes to us from Michael and Teresa. Okay. Okay. They come from Michael and Teresa and they only put a state. Okay. They only put a state. And that's fine. That's fine. Absolutely. We're okay with that. That state is Connecticut. Ba-dum-bum-bum. This is our first time for our first, our first question from Connecticut. Clear out there. No shit. Let's not fuck it up.

Okay. So, yeah, I got to see. I have to check stuff off, so I make sure that I don't fuck up and repeat myself. Nobody likes to repeat, especially after I fucked up this week on my post in the last show. God, Jesus. I lost my fucking mind. Anyways, okay.

So their question question is they are long-term lifestylers swingers whatnot if you will they've actually been in the lifestyle uh about 12 years now and the thing is this is what they wrote they let us know what they wrote wrote this letter and they said here's the deal we got in the lifestyle solely we listen to your show okay so right off the bat we know they're cool just saying they listen to our show and uh they're like us they got we they got in the lifestyle because their their marriage was good they just literally did it because they wanted to for fun and to spice it up okay so and their whole thing was spice it up but just just for the fun part of it which okay so we dig that so what they found though now is they said after you've been in the lifestyle for a long time how do you spice up your life when the lifestyle gets and i thought that was really a fucking deep question so i reached out to him and there you go fondle my stick again i reached out to i reached out to him i go what do you mean and they're like well the thing is is that the lifestyle is you know when we first started it was like it was super exciting and you know parties and and you know how it goes everybody who's listening has been in this any time when you're new everything's like it's a meet and greet yeah you know it's a new hotel party yeah it's a fucking you know we're gonna go get ready for a party yeah we're gonna go eat lunch and they might find swingers there yeah you know everything was just fucking all kinds of yeah off the yeah off the chart it was just kind of like super crazy and wild and and so now their their concern is now it's just like oh yeah we're going to a party yeah it's a meet and greet yeah it's whatever and it and it's they don't get the same kickstart that they used to from the lifestyle so i responded back to him again i'm like but do you still do you still have a rush like when you hook up and stuff like that and they go well we do but and there and there it is it's always about an ass in the lifestyle a little butt here a little butt there but their whole thing was well you know we we it's you know we've hooked up with these people there's people we hook up with a lot and they're very nice and now they've become friends and and it's fun and all but it just doesn't have the same pizzazz okay i'm like you know that is a fucking they said they even put in there we don't know if this is a question you want to waste your time talking about on the show nothing's a waste of time no nothing's a waste of time and i actually thought that was a really badass question because it happens it happens a fucking lot because let's face it at some point in time okay yes when you're brand new in the lifestyle i can remember a time just the thought just the thought of a party that coming weekend could have both of us fucking revved up i mean it made you horny just thinking about it just like holy shit you know i mean it was it was over the it was over the top it was exciting getting ready for Here we go.

I mean, it made you horny just thinking about it. It was just like, holy shit. You know, I mean, it was over the top. It was exciting getting ready for whatever was going to happen, right? And then it does reach a point where it's like, eh, well, sweet. I mean, it's fun, but it doesn't have the same, wow.

There was a time when you're first new in the lifestyle where you would rearrange damn near anything to get to go to that meet and greet or go to that party i mean literally i can think of times that i made excuses to my family why we couldn't do things nope i've got a yeah meeting that weekend or you know you you started to make you you found reasons to not do things because because it was stuff for the lifestyle i do you remember how okay so our youngest one played football and he's a junior in college now do you remember when he first started playing football and it was like and we even cracked the joke when as a freshman so he's he's a junior in college so.

Do you remember when he first started playing football, and it was like, and we even cracked a joke when he was a freshman. So he's a junior in college, so that tells you how long ago this was now. And we even cracked a joke about, oh, my God, their games are Friday night. We're going to sit there going, don't go into overtime. Please don't go into overtime. Sweet mother of Christ, we got to go.

And now it's like, well, you know, I really want really want to do my hair well and i really need to do stuff for crazy winter nights or i need to work on stuff for the show and then we don't even go out a lot of times so and i don't think we're the only ones that went through this at all so my thing is let's start with one of the one of the things that i thought was telling in their stuff was the fact of who they're hooking up with okay so there's a couple not red flags but like roadmaps of what's going on here they're hooking up with their their friends with them now they're hooking up with the same people right so they're going out and they're partying with pretty much the same people right comfort which means they're probably going to the same places comfort comfort the same parties comfort they're doing the same thing and so yeah let's okay you don't even have to be a fucking slut to eventually run out of people in your local clicking area to fuck right right and and here's the thing we most of us got in the lifestyle because it was the thrill of having sex with other people well eventually if you have sex with the same other people enough it's not new and exciting anymore it you know it and it's nothing against the other people it's not that you don't have a great time yeah you know it's not that it's not comfortable but comfortable and exciting are two totally different things i understand that with more comfort you know there's ease there's relaxation whatever but remember what got you into the lifestyle in the beginning remember if you want to get back to that feeling that jazzed up that pumped up that exciting that whatever here's what you have to do you have to do just what you did in the very beginning you have to step out of your comfort zone you which means now look i'm not saying you have to you should abandon all the people you used to know or all the people that you used to party with i'm not saying at all if anything encourage them to go along because now you have what you didn't have when you first started most likely are a lot of people they didn't have anybody to do it with i mean they had each other and not that there's no one i want to go experience new things with other than you but when it's just the two of us are both just equally afraid you know what i mean it's fun to do stuff if you have two couples or whatever to go a couple people to go in you're like a little gang it's west side story but you you feel a little i mean you feel a little bit safer because here's the deal you can go to somewhere new a new bar a new club a new whatever and couple of groups, there's a couple of couples of you to go, you still know everybody's going to get laid, but you're going to have a good time.

It will ramp up the excitement a little bit. Right. But step out. Look, we live in an internet world. God, God save us all. But we live in an internet world, right?

We're on, it's just like our secret page crazy caspa we have three that over almost 3100 members from all over the country so there's events from all over the country so i'm not saying you have to hop on a plane and travel halfway around the country or halfway across the country halfway around the world but there's all kinds of events that maybe are within a couple hours to take a weekend and go experience right you will get the same i look people know us right people know who we are now for better or worse we're known but it there's still a nervousness when you walk in a new a new place and you're you're the new people and everybody knows you're the new people.

You're fresh meat and fresh meat nothing better than a little fresh meat well I'm sorry because of your sound effects we haven't got a high enough budget yet to have like official ones but it's exciting to be to be the new meat again it's exciting nobody likes to be old raunchy meat that's gross anyways everybody likes to be the fresh taco in the room everybody likes to be everybody likes to be likes to be that that fresh thing where here's the deal it becomes an adventure okay and here's the the other thing i'm gonna say a lot of people i know i get in trouble with it not everybody the cool kids did it anyways you were more willing to fuck somebody on the first day on the first meeting it was like we're new and it clicks and i'm horny let's go fuck so your odds of hoping of fucking somebody different because you maybe you've traveled two hours away or higher so you may like it's it's like having a midlife crisis and swinging you might actually go back to being a little bit younger a little bit i won't say carefree and obviously you're still going to use protection so can we say if yeah yeah we got all shit.

But you're going to be maybe a little more open-minded to go back to the hotel room and see where the fuck this little magic takes us. But you have the advantage of knowing you don't have to. And that's a key part of it.

Part of our excitement when you're new is it's unknown what the fuck's going happen right and sometimes it works awesome sometimes it's a fucking train wreck disaster the joy is now that you're in it for 12 years now you have experience you can avoid the train wreck disaster parts of it you won't you don't have that feeling going i'm not interested in this couple but no one will ever fuck us again no you know that isn't the case now so you can actually take in and go and live a little and let yourself have some fucking fun and see how see how it got us now maybe you'll go two hours and you won't fucking find anybody you want to fuck there look there's a risk are you all ready for this you could go there and it's not the same and you might not like it as much son of a bitch okay so what so what if that happens so you know that you don't want to the next time you take a weekend you don't want to go there you know here's the other great thing if people are like dogs okay we're all dogs that's what we are and dogs like an alpha male an alpha male alpha female an alpha couple be the alpha couple of your group take the fucking risk go and travel to that club that no one else has been to go and do that group or that party that no one else has been to, even if no one else will balls up and go with you, so you can come back and report to the herd, hey, great news, there's good water over here.

There's dick aplenty. Come get some. No, but so you can go, hey, this is good water. Think of it this way. Okay. When you first get in the lifestyle, you're the fresh meat. Right. Because everybody else knows each other. And, you know, I remember sitting at a meet and greet going, oh, my God, they're just handsy all over each other. Oh, my gosh. You know, how do you get in on that? Who's going to touch me first? Well, it's because they were familiar with each other and they've been around each other and they knew each other. Yes. So when they see somebody new, they're like, ooh, fresh meat.

Boy, yeah. Okay, sure, if you want to call us that, whatever. Drip. So then when you venture out, you're in that new meat again. Yeah, yeah, and you're sought after. And you get the attention, and you get the... Well, okay, this is going to sound horrible. You want to know what else happens when you go somewhere else? What? The drama, the bullshit, all the rest of the crap. Isn't attached.

that now if you're like us where people know us well you never know they know one guy's fucking insane but still all the bullshit part of it is not attached with it you it's like getting to have a clean slate now okay so we were a little bit unique in that and you look at our group of friends now right and and to our group of that are listening, I know we don't get out and party as much anymore. It is what it is. We're sorry. We're trying. Just putting it out there. Anyways, but a lot of us, there was a big group of us that were all new at the same time.

And it's really funny because we've become really, really good friends with a lot of people at the first couple meet and greets they saw us from across the room we saw them from across the room they were interested we were interested it took time for us to do like the you know the dance the mating call of the loon and you know and to get to get i'm just keeping people awake to keep people to slowly go over there and now these are all people we've known seven eight nine years and and obviously that level of you know we've become friends right and and here's the thing a lot of them we don't necessarily hook up anymore with we haven't hooked up with for quite a while but we're friends we still now we're at a point where we have just as much fun going out and having drinks or just hanging out you know it's not it's not a necessarily a fuck fest but if you watch all of us and it's been a while since all of us got a chance to get together but if you watch all of us we're all still watching our phones right we're all still looking around we're all fucking doing the big slap to each other when new meat walks in because we're now we're to the point we're on the prowl the other thing that's happened is a lot of the the people that were we were friends with or became friends with when we first started remember we've been in the lifestyle 79 years whatever it's been a long time a lot of those people were older than we were a lot of those people are no longer in the lifestyle You know, life's happened Now're you know gilf's and all kinds of shit and so you know and that happens so you have to sometimes you have to go find new people new you know because here's the deal we can go find new people but we can't be younger right so you know I'm not gonna cause a 20 year old to get all drippy well but I mean I'm not a 20-year-old to get all drippy.

You can be younger. Well, but I mean, I'm not going to cause a 20-year-old to be all drippy because I'm still 47 years old. It is what it is. So we have to take chances and find other things. The other advantage of going out to new places is, look, you'll get new ideas to bring back to your parties, to your events, to your whatever. New perspectives.

the one thing we've learned with a nationwide page with you know I mean we we reach 17 000 people across the country every week so is that the shit that we know do whatever or is the quote-unquote norm in the midwest is different when you get closer to chicago when you get closer to denver when you get closer to dallas even when you get on up into minneapolis so that's fun that's exciting the one thing for michael and theresa is that is that the lifestyle should never be a chore you know i mean it it shouldn't be now okay so I guess we're obligated to say the other part of it to uh the other part of the other part of what it could be you're like well I have no idea what you're talking about no I don't look there are a lot of people that will that the lifestyle they will cycle through the lifestyle right it it served a purpose when you first got into it you know what whatever that purpose was for these guys like us it was for fun and for some people they i don't want to say this sounds snotty but it they outgrew the lifestyle i mean because let's face it to a degree the lifestyle is kind of it's it's kind of immature it's a lot of drinking it's a lot of you know it's it's a it's a party right and so shit happens and people do like outgrow the lifestyle so you know my recommendation is don't go yep that's what we've done and just quit the lifestyle because then you're gonna be like well fuck now we're bored senseless and then you're gonna try to get back in the lifestyle but if the other doesn't work if it doesn't bring it back if the lifestyle starts to become work and it's like well fuck we got another christ we got a meet and greet shit we got to do that yeah then maybe you have to look at the honest reality of it and go, eh, it's not for us anymore.

When I was in the car business years and years ago, I mean, I was in it up until recently, but I had a sales manager long before we ever got in the car business. Long. Rich. Long before we got in the car business? No, long before we got in the lifestyle.

No, he was at a dealership I worked at in Omaha Not the first one The second one Okay, like I remember I'll say it, they can sue me Anyways, I remember one time We were sitting around drinking at work Because it's the car business And that's kind of what you did But anyways And a pretty girl had been there And blah And of course typical guys being fucking pigs and and the whole shit and he goes i don't stick my dick anywhere my wife doesn't know of course that caused me to perk my ears up he he him and his wife had been swingers they had dabbled in the lifestyle look once a penis goes in your wife it's not dabbling anymore but sure whatever so he he had but they had been in the lifestyle and i said i said uh so what caused you you don't do him he goes no we haven't done it for years now i said well why well they had kids and then it just became a thing of you know for them it just didn't work time things and it started to get you know stuff well now i understand what stuff is stuff is like emotions and just you know shit like that and stuff starts being now one person thinks they're in the lifestyle 24 hours a day one person thinks they're only in it on the weekends whatever so it i mean it can happen yeah and and the thing is is i think that's a problem there's more people i think some people deal with boredom in the lifestyle by changing what they do would you would you you think that's what i mean by that is like going to they start because there's new levels of of fucking dirtiness and they start going to things like you know they originally started couples only same room, same room, within two feet of each other, can touch, you know, must be able to visual eye contact 24 hours a day.

Two, they, you know, they ramp it up to, you know, now we're willing to be playing separate rooms to the point of separate states. Who knows? I don't care if as long as I see you at some point in time during the night, you know, to completely playing alone.

I think there's different progressions that people will do as well i'm not going to sit here on this show as much as i love hate mail and advocate what you really should do is start playing alone you know just ratchet up the level of kink because that is not necessarily the answer you know at all did we did you did we go through that or are we in that or did we do do through that? Like get bored. Have you ever gotten bored with a lifestyle? I wouldn't say bored. Frustrated? Well, that can happen. That can happen.

But I mean, have you at any point in time, at some point in time went, you know what, I don't really want to do this anymore. I know you like it, so I'm just not going to say anything. I don't really want to do this anymore. No. Okay, good. Sure. There, that avoids a fight tonight. Thank God. No. No.

The thing is, it happens, and I don't think't think you know i just try different things try different things shit yeah okay if you can't travel go to a different bar go to a different change up the order that you do things look if usually what you do is well we we go to get dinner at at you know, Bob's restaurant, and then we go have drinks at Joe Bob's bar. We have three drinks, and then we go play Cards Against Humanity, and then we go here. Okay, if nothing else, change that part up. Now, I know that there was a time that we used to say, you know, we want to do something different.

We don't want to do the same thing over and over and over again yes then we started hanging out with one couple that we never hooked up with but they said the same thing but they kept going to the same bar over and you just kind of went well i thought you like to change it up why are we going to the same bar over and over and over again i mean it was just a hang out yeah yeah why can't why can't we go hang out somewhere else why can't we go listen to a different band have you know have variety if you don't change up variety even if you don't you uh you see another couple online or whatever you're not totally interested but you'll live in the same area go have dinner with them go hang out at a bar because you might meet other people through them right exactly exactly or once you meet them they may find wow they're really fucking cool the thing is is go try a different activity go to one of the escape rooms or go play putt-putt golf that works out well for me i seem to get laid after i do that uh go you know but um but you know go catch a different band go to a movie just do something to change it up you know and and invite people in and and whatever and just kind of see and let go remember you and you said it best comfort we all get in comfort zones look life sucks if you live everything in a comfort zone it can it does i don't i look to me how people can get up and they spend the first 13 years of life they get up they go to school they come home then they go to college they go to class they come home and then they go get a job and they get up and they go home and then on the weekends they mow the yard and that's all they fucking do and they do that until they're 65 they get a gold watch congratulations and we never took a chance also think of it this way every area has the same things that are put on over and over again yes you you know when we first got in it there were three different groups that did three different types of well two different that did two different types of parties one they completely left lifestyle the other one they went to a different town so then someone else jumped in okay it was a fresh party all right cool and then after like three of them you're like really okay yeah how about something different Thank you.

then someone else jumped in okay it was a fresh party all right cool and then after like three of them you're like really okay yeah how about something different well and and hey a word of advice to everybody who is party planners out there that that does this stuff keep it fresh you have to keep it fresh and yeah i'm absolutely going to continue to go back to crazy winter nights because we've worked damn hard to make crazy winter nights one crazy winter nights worked damn hard to make Crazy Winter Nights 1. Crazy Winter Nights 2 was completely different than Crazy Winter Nights 1.

And Crazy Winter Nights 3 is going to be completely different. Keep it fresh because you know what? Have new things. We keep adding to it to make it different. Yeah, we keep doing things to make it different.

Look, if you go to Disney, if you are old enough and you're in the lifestyle and you're still listening to this podcast and you remember going to Disney World when it first opened, thank thank god you crotchety old bastards we love you uh but anyways and you remember the rides they have then okay what do they do they're constantly adding new attractions because it's gotta have a reason for people to come back look you can only ride thunder mountain so many fucking times before it's just thunder mountain you have to to keep adding new and new shit.

I'm doing my damn disc to get sued by somebody. You are, I tell you what. So, I mean, and that's the same thing with Lifestyle. I tell you what. Be willing to try and do different things. Be willing to add new people. And here's the other thing that goes with it as well. Get out of your comfort zone.

You did you did it once look you were terrified to go to whatever event was your first event you went to you got out of your comfort zone and you went for it first event well i'm just i'm talking to all these people but yeah i mean first year of events yeah but you were every first that you did so you had to fight through the fear to go for it. What you've done is you've forgotten it. Go back to that. Go back to that. And don't forget, we preach this a lot. Don't forget, when you see the new meat walking in, don't just think of them as new meat. I mean, that's rude. That's obvious.

That's our running joke. That's our running joke.

But the thing is thing is is when you see those new people a great way to add new blood in the lifestyle or into your lifestyle is to include new people in events because you know what here's the deal they have new stories or if nothing else they'll still think your old stories are funny because they haven't heard them before which that's great for laughs i mean that's you know if nothing else it's somebody new to get excited about what you've done to get you excited about what you've done try something new i mean there's going to come a day where we're going to throw a house party because of all the shit we've done we've never thrown a house party and we would be a train wreck before we threw a house party now we can bring that back back to a story, not the house party part, but, you know, going and telling news and hearing new stories.

Was it the second bonfire or the third that you ever went to? The first one we knew a couple, so they hounded us to go. Right. And I'm glad they did because we went.

but then there was one time I go to the bathroom I come out and you have a swarm of people around you listening to you joke around and carry on and tell stories and everybody's just laughing and I'm like going wow is he not the center of attention and that's when she knew he's a fucking attention whore and this was the precursor where all this was all this was headed uh nancy okay i remember trying to get you and amanda to island riders party you were tough to convince but when you came you seemed to have a great time and you were way out of way out of the zone that's exactly right that's exactly right we were and here's the thing what in that case because nancy continued to she sold the party she didn't just tell us to come she sold the benefits of the party and we're like okay and because we had gotten everybody gets comfortable it was a halloween party yes it was because i remember being in the hallway and there was one couple that i know i had seen them at one bar a couple of times.

And I went, how do you get to the party? Yeah, because we'd gotten there late. I don't know about late. We were just trying to figure out how to get to the party because we didn't know what door. Yeah, yeah. And they go, well, you go there and across the court. I'm like, oh. Did you get laid at that one? Huh? Did you get laid at that one? Is that one? Yeah, you did. Mm-mm. Wasn't that the one where you and somebody went back to the room and that was a different one? Mm-hmm. No. Okay. Did I get laid at that one? I don't remember. I'm just trying to think back.

I just remember it being Halloween because they were dressed as like German people because he had on... Like Hans and Gretel. Yes. Leader Holden, but they didn't have any snacks. I remember that. But there were snacks in the ballroom, just saying. Yes. There was a lot. Because I remember walking there going, Jesus Christ, you wasn't kidding. We didn't take any. We just kind of looked at it and went. Holy fuck. Yeah, because we didn't bring anything. We didn't know where this was going, so we didn't eat any food. Yeah. We know better now. Fuck yeah, now. We're not shy for shit now.

I'm over there. I'm hitting the meatballs and the snacks like a fucking starving kid. Hey, look who brought the little, who brought the fat starving kid in here? Has that guy ever eaten before? Did you get laid? Nope. But I got full. I got laid out there. We've had fun out there. We've had sex out there. Multiple times. Hey, that party's coming up too.

12th Yep We'll be there again Fucking our way Into the lives of many That's what we do Oh my god And I'll be way out Of my comfort zone But that's okay Hey you know what We're gonna put the I'm putting it on Twitter Oh Jesus I'm gonna put it on Twitter I'm gonna put the picture of your costume of that out there on twitter look on my secret page right now you're like 400 fucking people going i get into peer pressure you like peer pressure or not you have over almost 400 people like they're just fucking nice oh my god cool i'm getting this much cole's okay if i slap or ask Cole, oh my god she doesn't have any interest in Cole I'm getting this Cole's okay If I slap her ass Cole Oh my god She doesn't have Any interest in me I'm just like Holy fucking shit Oh yeah Oh shit Shit that should be Your like daily wear now I'm telling you I'm putting pictures of that With your witch's hat on For fucking Your reiki business Because sex sells And I'm all over That fucking shit Fuck yeah You know it's like Half time Oh is it really Thank you.

for fucking your Reiki business because sex sells and I'm all over that fucking shit. Fuck yeah. You know, it's like halftime. Oh, is it really? No, no. Bring out the marching band. All right, so this is actually, so there you go, Mike and Teresa. Hopefully that helped you out there. So we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. You're waiting to see what that guy's going to get, aren't you? Jesus. Are you ready for the party of 2020? Crazy Winter Nights. Why can't I have to turn you down? No, you won't. Not me. I mean the other guy. Shut up, other guy. Crazy Winter Nights.

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Well, you know, you were watching me, so it was hard to do. I think I'm watching this bit of water all over. All right, so great. So now we're ready to move on. Okay, you are going to love this next question. Oh, God. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you're going to fucking love this question, okay? This question, again, it's an East Coast show, kids. This question comes to us anonymous, or they ask it to be anonymous, other than the state. Okay. Okay.

So they're a couple couple and we're just going to call them the new jersey couple okay from new jersey okay so their question is we know that you have a secret facebook page and you part of have other groups and blah we're part of other groups but we feel like where it's underserviced out here we're thinking about starting our own group in new jersey they didn't want to say where so that would tip off other people that might be listening to new jersey would you recommend starting your own facebook group do you ever want to have sex again that was exactly the first thing i thought of too i'm just like and and so i i wrote back to the jersey couple and i and i was like so what when you know what where do you want to take this i mean that really was the question where do you want to take this and initially i got the standard it's well you know we just want to take it wherever it goes i'm like oh lord and and then i got a second of action well we probably you know we probably just want to keep it small but you know we're hoping to be maybe between three and four hundred people max because that's what we think that's kind of the group so the reason i asked him that question for people that are wondering is yes we do have a shit ton experience starting a group and okay it here's what's funny when you start one of these pages when you start with these groups you generally have a good idea good intention in in mind.

Okay, so the problem with these groups, and here's the thing. We are very supportive of other people starting groups. Okay, we're one of those few pages that we don't have, we don't tell people, we encourage people. If they start a new group, they can post it on our page. We don't care. We let, you know, whatever. So it's not a competition thing for us. The challenge when you start a new group is you know all the fun things you want to do with it. You know all the cool things you want to do with it. You're pretty sure it can't be that fucking difficult.

And you're pretty sure that the admins of the groups you're in are fucking morons they just don't get it right and and you want to do it better all i can say is this is like it's like watching if you want to get know a good idea of how to deal with starting page watch dancing with the stars watch the rehearsal parts of it okay because yes when you get professional dancers out there and they're doing the shit they make it look easy right i mean they they legitimately do because that's what they do but then when people are trying to learn it uh it it's not easy i mean i guess the biggest thing that i'll put out there is is it is it's not easy and that that's the the part where shit gets a little weird the upside is starting your own page you're in charge you're in control right so you can you can approve or not approve and let whoever you want on there are not on there whatever you want to do and and that's great and you can try to you can try and that's a key phrase here you can try to steer it however you want to steer it but this shouldn't this you go well it shouldn't be rocket science no it.

No, it shouldn't be. But you're dealing with people. And you're dealing with sex. And you're dealing with booze. So you start putting this combination together. And this shouldn't just, it's not easy. It's not easy at all. And so, yeah, we cracked the joke. Do you ever want to get laid again? That's no fucking joke. That's no joke. Your last one was when? February. February. It's what month? Almost October. I went, what, a year and a half, almost two years?

And it's not that people aren't interested but they they respond differently when you host a page because if you're doing an event i mean if you're doing an event number one you're busy so to do a lot of stuff you don't you don't have a lot of time but this is kind of i'm trying to see i don't want to discourage somebody from doing it but this is like if you're somebody who goes to church right or no maybe a theater let's use a theater theater is a better example so you like going to theaters whether it be you know your local community theater or broadway shows and it a performance can be magical right it's just like oh so you go and you get a job working at a theater and now you get to see this stuff that's not so much fucking magical now you get to hear the director look you stupid motherfucker can't you remember your lines and you get to see the dirt and the sweat and the blood and and the politics and the crap because this is no different than any other avenue of life you have all those same things apply with a page all sudden now you go to watch that show you can maybe be able to appreciate it for the work that goes into it, but it's not magic.

There is no Santa Claus. I mean, that's not the way this shit goes. And all of a sudden, that is a daily occurrence, right? That is a daily occurrence. If you want a page and you want it to be successful, truly be successful, it is not a, well, I'm going to devote between three and five every day to the page. It does not fucking work that way. You need admins that you can trust. And we're very fortunate that we have a really, really great group of admins, which we reward accordingly. We have a great group of admins. But you're dealing with, and this is not just on Facebook.

This is whether it's not kicking work it's going away but whether me we whether it be on sls whether it be on whatever or or facebook there's rules that have to be you got to watch there are assholes that will say stupid shit that piss people off drama drama you'll have people that are snowflakes that get fucking pissed off at anything look i'm going to tell you this right now you want to know the biggest pain in the ass is starting a fucking page is people's need for attention because guess what here's the deal everybody posts a picture because they want the likes and the clicks and the loves and the hearts and the all the different things you can get on all those different ones and if they don't't get enough, they get pissed.

Well, not everybody. Yeah, sure they do. Because you'll have guys whimper and whine because they don't get enough likes compared to the women. And then you'll have women that, guess what happens? I just saw this on four other pages. It's social media, you fucking jackasses. It is what it is.

They post a picture, and all of a sudden, well, we get friend we get friend requests we get instant messages yeah if you put a picture with your tatas hanging out there or your cooter you're gonna have guys that are thirsty as the fucking as a camel in the desert that they're gonna start bombarding you with stuff that's the new age of swinging it goes with the fucking territory kids it is. It is what it is. And as an admin, it is your responsibility to stop it, fix it, make it right. And that means there's two sides to the story. So that there's two people and two different viewpoints.

And you have to understand that one of them is not going to win. One's going to lose. One's going to win.

So one person's so one person's gonna be pissed one person's gonna be happy so that just goes with the territory and people go oh no i'd handle it differently i can tell you if you don't handle drama correctly on a page you we have watched pages here that have have went through three and four name changes because they didn't handle something correctly and all of a sudden it went boom and blew up in their face let me throw this out here this is a question and i'd love emails back on this so you have a page no big deal right and uh there's a sex offender on the page in your state what do you do and you go well i wouldn't have to i wouldn't allow people like that on you know what you'll never find out about it you'll find out about it because somebody else will find out about it and they will come to you and you will need to solve that problem and how you deal with that will will create either more drama or less drama you know we've always joked through the years with with our page that i'll be up dealing shit at three in the morning because a simple comment at three in the morning on the page or a simple instant message hey i have a concern at three in the morning if it is left till eight in the morning the next day it went from this little bitty like not even an anthill it's even smaller than that to a fucking raging volcano by the morning because once you have the peanut gallery everybody has an opinion and and everybody if your page is successful everybody should feel like they're an ownership to a degree of that page they're part of the success of that page so you have to stay on top of that all the time it's kept us from going out a couple different times yeah it's caused us to come home early because we've had to deal with shit and look there's a couple there's a couple of new pages that are out there uh right now and uh the the people think that well they can they can go take you, they can just step away from it for a while, you know, for a couple of days or whatever the case may be.

That's not fair to do to your admins, you know. And the reality of it is you, if it's your page, you have a responsibility to own up to the final decisions that are on that page. And it just is. So if you're having events, it really becomes difficult. And the sad reality is we have people, look, I don't know.

and and it just is so if you're having events it really becomes difficult and the sad reality is we have people look most people would like to fuck you but a lot of people won't approach you because you're casbah or whatever they're we've heard it we've had people tell it to us they're afraid that if you get upset that they'll get booted from the page and and to try to make people understand no no no that's not how this works you know so my thing is jersey couple if you're going to do it really think through what you want it to be okay or why you're doing it yeah why you're doing it and then control where it goes you have to have control and and you the other thing, since they're a couple, you have to be on the same page.

Because if you're not this... Do you know how many of our conversations are geared around the page? Jesus Christ, yeah. And that's for the last three years.

And the other thing that goes right along with that as well is that before you run, before you if you don't feel like your current page is you're not being served effectively here's what i would recommend doing do you know the admins of the page or the owners of the page of the groups that you're involved in reach out to them offer to help see see if you can maybe if you can be a moderator or if there's something like that because we've seen it in other places and and it goes in cycles what starts to happen is i get pissed off i go start a page so i get all my friends come over my page because they're also pissed at whatever where we left great well then drama happens on that page and so bob goes well fuck you all this page and i'm gonna start my own page and he goes about half the people go with him his friends go over there and then there's drama on that page and then it splits see it's like amoebas they just keep fucking splitting and then what you have is a whole bunch of these fucking pages that are small they have a lot of drama right and then events suffer because they're not all communicating they're not all working together they're not all putting on events and the groups are getting smaller and smaller where the thing is is is there ways to take and work within the group and maybe make it better if not rock on start the other thing that i would strongly encourage we've been very lucky it's been very successful with us is that we support every group we've never we've never once told somebody they can't they can't we've never banned a group off our page we've never we we don't allow bashing we don't and that includes other groups whether it doesn't even matter if we agree with it but you know try to be helpful the other thing is get to know other admins of other pages it will be helpful sometimes you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time talk to somebody you know get some ideas but really I guess the thing is really think it through before you do it because people people want a lot and they will and and as stupid as it sounds is the reason people want things there are a lot of people are really great people and they they just you know it's a regular thing they want to get to know you whatever but we've seen groups of friends go to a page and totally destroy it yep we've yeah we've seen a whole group going and just take it over and just be complete douchebags we've also seen we've seen groups of friends start their own page and i i can think of off the time i had at least four examples of either a group of friends or a couple of friends start their own page each admins or whatever and it caused uh the friendship tent because there was disagreements on how to handle it and you had people going look we get it we get it all the time if they get if somebody goes on our page goes to one of our admins and they don't like the answer then they come to to me or come to you and if they don't like the answer i've given them a lot of times they'll go to you or vice versa you know it's like the kid game playing well mom said no let's try that or wait a minute what about the oh boy well so and so posted on this page this you need to go delete it yeah wait a minute that's not my page but they're on your page i don't care that's not my exactly i can't control i can't i can't control them and and that's some of the that's the best one oh my god yeah and and that's and that's what you're gonna you're gonna have people that'll get upset because they'll get we're pretty strict on our rules and we do the best we can to try to enforce our admins can do a great job for us but you're gonna have people that will we'll get messages all the time through years we get a message i got all these friend requests blah usually they try to put some drama on the page first, and we stop it.

And they're like, all these people are sending us friend requests. And then we go, and we look. Then we go, look, none of them are on our fucking page. Oh, by the way, they're on seven other fucking pages. Oh, well, I guess I didn't look at that. You know, and you're just sitting there going, well, here's the deal. Before you call me a douchebag, you know, why don't you double check? You're a dick with arms. Get it straight. No, I'm a dick with arms with a cocaine problem. Yes. That's right. I do hookers and blow. So, I mean, but that's just some of the shit that you go through.

You just have to go. You need to know it going in eyes wide open. Everybody starts and puts the same rules on their page.

No drama allowed here is a drama free zone we won't do drama and you know what i usually giggle and as a general i try to reach out to a lot of the pages when they start around our area to say hey look i'm happy to be just uh you know if you need to talk something through or you have questions i'll do my best to answer them and usually within about two weeks is about all it takes before some drama llama off one of their pages as soon as you see that person that person get added you're like oh fuck there goes the neighborhood kids and sure as fucking shit you could it it's like having when, you know, your kid came home and go, hey, little Bobby has fucking measles.

Mark it on your calendar because 14 days later, guess who else is going to have fucking measles? And that's the same type of shit. And we see that happen and sure as fuck. And it is frustrating because you have people that will fucking then, you're a dick and, I mean, shit. We are happy to say that we have personally caused the creation of three pages of just people that hate us, which is pretty cool. Now, with all, okay, so all that's the downside, right? There's a lot of upsides.

You know, when we get people that, and we get literally an outrageous number of emails and texts and messages every single day and every week from people that are like you know uh it's awesome because we can post on your page and i always feel welcome i never felt welcome before or you know thank you so much because you stand up you won't allow body shaming or you know thank you for having this event because we know it's safe to do with you guys with your event that kind of shit okay and we get a lot of that and i'm i gotta tell you it makes every single bit of it worthwhile right because i've been to events that we've put on and when you have somebody come up in in tears and they're sober just saying in tears and they're sober but they are so appreciative of the fact that you know you had this event and you made it a safe place for them to be able to come to it you know what it that means the world to me so and that and to you too obviously i mean and and we get a lot of that so you have that ability to do that you know and if look if you can make the world a better place if you make swinging better if you think you can reach out to other people and serve other people then fucking rock on go for it you know just just let them just know what the fuck you're getting into and then start right away throwing hotel parties because fucking nothing bad can happen Stress Stress is what we live for absolutely oh the other biggest thing I guess I throw out there with that is remember it's awfully hard because there's a degree of getting outed the potential to be outed always is raised when you have your own page so know that and know but there are resources out there i'm part of probably uh shit i don't know probably 10 uh groups that are admin only groups that we share and post if there's a problem child or or whatever so make sure you use your resources right make sure you use all your resources so that that they can uh understand that hey look you know there's you can go there and people can give you ideas and and stuff like that which is just i mean that becomes priceless yeah as you as you get going on with the whole with the whole thing see as we're sitting here talking this is what's so funny.

We're recording the show right now, and I'm going to assume that's the admin chat, right? And I'm going to assume that there's some sort of something going on. Yep. And that's just continuous. So it is what it is. So know what you're getting into before you do it. Don't want to discourage, but just understand that it's not just all unicorns and sunshine. Sometimes it's bullshit and crap. And that's true. No, I'm kidding. It's not that bad. No, it's fun and it is worth it. And if you can help better serve a part of your community, fucking rock on. I mean, jump all over that shit.

Are you serious? Yeah, you're at 55 at the moment. Holy fucking shit-hmm well I'll be down I'll be damned where hell did time go your mouth imagine that the microphone is sucks it right out of me all right so god I almost suck the like cover off the microphone Anyway, suck on that pineapple. It's a new little thought to gagging, doesn't it? I don't have much of a gag reflex. Anyways, you got too big of a clit, I'll gag on it. Anyways. I love the looks you give me during this show. Anywho, all right, well, I'll tell you what. So that's a pretty good place to wrap it up. Yep. I think so.

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