Krazy Truth #66 Sex, Lies and text messages

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Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth.

I am your host what's most I am Cole and I'm here with the lovely lovely miss amanda hey and we are here to celebrate share and acknowledge all things lifestyle swingers and otherwise that's what we do we our knowledge all the way through spew so we got all kinds of cool stuff uh well first of all i'm sorry i keep forgetting to do that some of these basic things some of that housekeeping shit if you will uh so this is season two episode i believe 65 uh we got a lot of people coming on live right now on our uh on our secret facebook page uh crazy casbah so shout out to some folks there's our boys from the devil are on there there's all kinds of people uh so anyways this is episode 65 we're getting close to episode number 69 i can't fucking wait for that shit uh hey so okay so we're doing stuff a little bit different tonight because uh we've got really cool, really, well, they're really deep questions to talk to, so we're going to hit those.

But, hey, real quick, I want to put a plug out here right now. For those of you that have not heard yet, you will soon. Crazy Winter Nights is coming up. That is our huge, huge party convention education thing is coming out. We've got our boys from the Devils will be playing out there Saturday night.

We've got events friday saturday we have some of the top educators in the uh world gonna be there so you want to make sure that you can sign up and get tickets or if you want to be part of our vendor fair you can do that as well scoot my camera on scoot uh so how do you how do you sign up if you want to be there well you go to www.crazy, K-R-A-Z-Y, winter, you know how to spell that, night.com, buy your tickets today. If you want to be a vendor at the world's famous vending fair, let me know. Reach out to us. There you go. You can reach our email there.

Crazy, K-R-A-Z-Y, dot, casbah, K-A-S-B-H, at gmail.com. Nah. All right. So, I'm going to be gross for just a second because I didn't do this ahead of time. Hold on. Oh, no. You didn't. Yes, I did. I just spewed some crazy Casbah boogers on the air. All right.

And this is why we get the questions that we do because we're trustworthy folks all right what could possibly go wrong wow all right so are you are you how are you doing with what just the day we're recording on a different night than we usually record fine it's been a hectic day at work i had a hectic day at work also i had a great day at work today uh actually what i did today for those listening at home you know back in february we did a fundraiser for one of our members who was diagnosed with als and i got convinced to we auctioned things off so people donated stuff and a lot of people done we a lot of money, and so I got asked to donate a date with me, which I was pretty sure no one was going to want, but so it was wanted, and one of our listeners, our lovely, lovely listeners, won said date with me.

Now, so the thing with this is, it had been it'd been a while before we were able to make this all happen and and crazy life a crazy crazy life it's a title yeah uh so uh but we were able to make it happen tonight so uh she had never putt putt golf before so i took her putt putt golfing today and she kicked my fuckingt-putt golf. But the date was paid. Were you distracted? I was highly distracted. Let's just say it really is awesome when hot people bid on you. So anyway, so yes, I was highly distracted. And we had a wonderful time playing with sticks and balls and holes. What can I say?

So but it was a great time and you know I want to give a shout out I know it was a long time ago now but you know one of the things is so cool about stuff that we do is that we've done lots of fundraisers for folks and we always have people on our secret crazy casual page always come forward and help us out so a big thank you and thank you to the young lady that won the date with me for being so patient to finally wait and uh to finally make it so that i was actually able to to fucking pay off so anywho uh so so yes i had a busy day so what that actually means is i got zero accomplished on anything else that I needed to get done today, and it was worth every fucking minute of it.

I'm glad that I got another accomplished. Just saying. So, should we jump right into the fucking festivas? Yes. I'm trying to decide if I want to blow my nose again. That's pretty fucking sexy. No, that's disgusting. Please don't. Okay. All right.

So, we get asked a lot of questions, and we answer a lot of questions right and okay some questions are very very funny some questions are very very serious right now what is the disclaimer kids we always put on all of our questions no matter how serious it is we may make jokes about it it's it's just our way to make it a little more entertaining okay so because this one's actually kind of pretty serious question okay okay so um so i got this question uh i got this question at the very end of last week and it stuck out to me so i made uh we moved it to the front line because we actually get you know literally hundreds of questions every week.

So I moved this one to the front of the line because this one came from a viewer, and all we know is they sent it worried wife. So we take this stuff pretty serious. We try to.

So, okay, so in an interest, I'm going to do this different than we normally do because uh the person one of the things that they let us know is that they're listeners to the show and so discretion is a key they wanted to make sure that this wasn't that everybody didn't know that it was them and so uh i'm actually not going to read the question okay you're gonna have to kind of bear with us a little bit because we're going to talk about a little bit about situations and what i'm hoping for here is and we're doing that not to avoid the direct question but for to protect our listeners protect our listener who asked us to do this and i'm hoping that worried wife will listen and pick up on the different areas to help her find solution and closure okay okay so uh the first thing that i want to talk about today okay when when look we've always said there's no right or wrong way to do the lifestyle no okay there's no like set manual that says you have to do it the same way that i have to do it or the same way this other couple has to do it or a poly group has to do it or kinksters or anything else there's no anybody who fucking tells you there's a right way or a wrong way to do it guess what they're fucking wrong and stupid everybody does what they're comfortable with right everybody does their own thing okay that is the same thing for reasons why people get into the lifestyle okay when you've been in as long as we have and and there's people have been a lot fucking longer than we have i was gonna say we're still kind of newbies i'm like virginish i haven't been a virgin of anything forever Anyways So So When you've been As long as we have We've heard A shit ton Of different reasons Why people Gotten into the lifestyle Okay Ourselves We got into the lifestyle Seriously 100% We're that couple One in a million I guess We have the conks say we have a good sex life we have a good relationship i was waiting for a peanut comment on the sex life one sorry well we do but i mean sometimes i i go flaccid on the job anyways we have a good sex life we have a good relationship we love spending time with each other We have a strong marriage.

We legitimately got in a lifestyle for fun. Like, it's kinky and it's dirty and we all have a dirty streak in us and it's fun. That's legitimately why we're doing this. Life porn. Life porn. Exactly. Look, we all like watching it. Let's make some. Ba-dum-bum-bum. So, it just so awkward when the delivery guy shows up and he has no idea what you're doing and you're trying to, so you brought the pizza and want to fuck. Okay, so I think our reasons to get in was pretty good. Now, there's other reasons that we've heard of people getting in the lifestyle.

Some people, maybe it's to spice up their their sex life that the other parts of their relationship are great but maybe their sex life is lacking or they're looking for excitement or they're looking there there's a lot of reasons there's one reason though that you we you sadly hear this a lot okay and that's a problem Is that people get in a lifestyle to fix a marriage look i don't know if we've told the story about the couple that that we hooked up with that they were going to a marriage counselor okay so we hooked up with this couple one time yeah we'll make your facebook famous uh hooked up with this couple one time they're no longer in it yeah surprise and we asked him they got in the lifestyle.

Well, first we asked them how they met. Here should have been the first red flag. She was his meth dealer. Yeah, that should have been a red flag. But we pressed on anyways because we were new and what the hell.

But they had since gotten together, after all prison terms were served, and had adopted a child and they were having marital problems and their marriage counselor told them you need more adult interaction you need more adult interaction so which they immediately went i know swinging and i remember i will never forget you and i's face when they said that we were both just like uh do you think that's what they meant yeah and we asked them i said did you did you tell them that and they're like oh yeah what they say well that's not exactly what we had in mind surprise so guess what the end of the story the end of that story is they're no longer in the lifestyle they're no longer together at all so here's the thing when you when when people get in the lifestyle to fix a marriage or to fix a relationship the lifestyle is not conducive for that sort of thing well if you're if you're in marriage problems sticking your dick in somebody else's pussy is usually not the best thing to help curb it isn't even that as we were just talking outside about a totally different subject you have you're watching your spouse flirt with somebody else, give them attention that you don't get.

Exactly. Exactly. You get attention from them, but it's a different kind of attention than somebody you're just going to have sex with and move on. Fresh meat.

So it's, it's a, it's a struggling thing for a solid marriage let alone oh shit yeah shit yeah and and here's the thing look you can have the strongest marriage in the world and there can be a hookup that can throw a fucking monkey wrench into everything okay and there's a million reasons why so when you're trying to have a marriage no when you're well yes marriage when you're trying to have a fucking marriage based on trust respect love all those things and you're throwing We'll be right back.

to have a marriage no when you're well yes marriage when you're trying to have a fucking marriage based on trust respect love all those things and you're throwing other people's emotions lust okay because let's face it sport fucking kids it is what it is sport fucking i don't i don't look i don't give two fucks about everybody goes well we're looking for relationship and deeper meaning bull fucking shit what you want to do is you want to get your junk wet that's what you want now you may want to know them really well before you do it but you still want your dick wet you still want your pussy wet it is what it is at the end of the day so when you add sport fucking and that and lust and and animalistic instincts and everything else.

Those are not things that they talk about on the therapy couch as possible fucking marriage counseling type things. So when you get into a marriage or an issue with your marriage and you choose swinging as the way to option.

You're actually doing an activity which involves, involve it needs to involve massive communication which obviously if your marriage is in trouble you're having an issue with right and then the activity itself is you talking with other people don't do that look here's the way i quit it it's the same thing as people that are having marital issues that turn around and have a baby to save their marriage now let's think about taking you will for just a minute you and i hate each other at this moment in time our marriage is fucking fucked up there's no money well we not now but we were younger because if you're getting knocked up now we're rich because that doctor owes me some fucking cash for the key to make all your shit.

But, okay, so we're mad at each other. Money's tight. We don't think we like each other anymore. This is hell.

So what we're going to do is we're going to pop out this little slime ball, right, of a thing that can do, we're going to pop out this pile of goo that can do nothing on its own we're gonna we're gonna pop out a chicken mcnugget with arms and legs it can't feed itself it can't dress itself it can't do anything all it's able to do is shit and piss all over itself and scream bloody murder every time it's hungry or fill in the blank whatever else it might whatever else its needs are so we're gonna take this little bundle of fucking joy we're gonna add no sleep into our relationship that already sucks and go well that ought to make shit better look man if you want that get a puppy.

Because it'll sit there and whimper and whine all night in the kennel, but at least it can feed it. It can fucking stick its own head in the fucking bowl and chew. I mean, seriously. That's not the bond with a baby. Come on. No, but if you both hate each other, here's the thing. You have a kid, okay? You have baby fat. Your tits drag and hurt because they got to be pumped. And you got a tear in your pussy, okay? Yeah, and you already don't like me at that moment in time in our relationship? Yeah, you're going to look in the mirror and be like, oh, you know what?

This tear in my pussy is sexy as fuck. I really like the belly fat. Oh, I love my tits hurt. Where's my pump at? And I'm going to be sitting there going, what do you mean I can't stick my dick in anything for eight weeks? Are you fucking shitting me? And every time you try to anyways, this little bundle of joy is going to start screaming and whining. If a marriage is fucked up, now if a marriage is normal, that's stressful enough. But if it's fucked up and everything is two pieces of sandpaper, well, let's not add a bigger sand, an electric sander in there just to really fuck shit up, right?

That's how marriages go south. It's the same thing with swinging. Our marriage is all fucked up. So you know what? I'm going to take it, flirt, and try to catch the attention of every chick that doesn't look like my wife. I'm going to try to stick my dick in it.

I i don't get a disease and don't be something stupid i'm gonna deal with the fact when she's gob nobbing four guys on their on her knees with fucking dicks everywhere that are bigger than mine yeah that ought to fix it oh yeah and we're gonna communicate in ways that are flirty over text and instant messages and whatever that can throw things for for a loop i mean does anybody else see how this makes zero sense to do this okay so if you're trying to fix your marriage with this stop it don't do it just say no you what you need to do is figure out what the issue in your marriage was to begin with, right?

So if the issue in your marriage is an issue that is similar to an activity in swinging, let's say your issue is communication, okay? You have an issue with, no, here's a better one.

The issue in the marriage is you don't like how much i i'm nice and mr you know outgoing to all the guys or i don't like how you flirt with all the all the no how i miss out going with all the girls you know how you flirt with all the guys so if if my problem in our marriage is you're fucking i feel like you're flirting too much okay well let's look at swinging for a minute part of what you do in swinging is flirting so guess what that probably wouldn't be the activity to go to fix your marriage i mean i'm just i'm just throwing it out there i mean you have to take a look and see now if the air if the air the the error, what?

I'm stoned. If the error or the issue in your marriage is that you both just can't decide on, you know, what you like to eat, then, okay, maybe swinging can fix that. I don't know.

But a majority of people on their profiles on websites will put their in it to spice up their marriage well yeah because because it it doesn't get a lot of people in there when they go we're going to fix our marriage because i hate the cut good god would you respond to the guy that goes look here's the my wife's a dead fish of a fuck so that's why we're in the lifestyle you're not going well i want to hook up with this fucking dude yeah maybe he sucks too yeah well yeah maybe maybe his wife is because you know he doesn't know how to use his penis and he just flaps her with it i don't fucking know so yeah they're gonna that's probably lie about why but i'm gonna tell you this kids it's the truth believe me believe me when i tell you that you can put on the profile you can tell everybody you know what every reason you want for the reason you got in the lifestyle okay the truth will set you free because the truth will show up and it's going to show up not just when you're sitting at home doing lifestyle type things it's going to show up at a party it's going to show up at when you're hooking up with another couple it's going to expand the issues that are that you're having at home okay remember what's a marriage based off of love trust and respect right guess Swinging is the exact same way.

To have to be successful as a couple in the lifestyle, whether you're playing as a couple, or you're playing alone, or you're playing with yourself, or you're looking at porn, you need to have love, trust, and respect. If you don't have those three things, you have an issue. The lifestyle is just going to become like a big pus-ridden sore that oozes gunk out all over every time you think about it. Jealousy is going to play into fact. Oh, fuck yeah. That can even be with a solid marriage, let alone one that has issues. Oh, shit. But if you need spicing up, spice it up between yourselves first.

Yeah. How many times did you come... When we were way younger, obviously. Way younger. Way younger. How many times did you come home from work and I was sprawled out on the bed in the lingerie and stuff to do something different? A lot. Now, I always just assumed it was just for me. Well, I... I sent Pedro out the door. Sorry. Go work on the pool tomorrow. Well, but... And here's what's funny.

We can talk about this shit because the business that I came out of, which was the car business, is ripe with liars, che addicts whatever okay so we we personally knew people that lied to their wife because their wife would call us to find out if they really were going on a run and they really were at work till midnight because there were nights i was at work till midnight or or one and then commuted home if you didn't trust me well we were gonna have a fucking problem and there were guys that used that and they became a victim of the car business you know if you can't handle that if you have suspicions it's an elvis thing suspicious minds okay it is what it is if you have suspicions you know what you got a fucking problem seriously i mean that okay so so that's the first part and yes for those people for those of you keeping score at home that does deal with part of the of the question okay so i understand we're not sitting here saying we have all the answers you know we're not dr phil fucking damn close just not the money anyways no we're not sitting here saying we have all the answers.

You know, we're not dr. Phil Fucking damn close just not the money anyways. No, we're not but some of this shit is just Some of it is common sense.

You have to take and have a grasp in reality We say this all the fucking time and I'm gonna say it again and I'm gonna say it again again i'm going to say it again it's like talking to kids here's the deal you are engaging in the most mature activity hobby that you can possibly have there is not a single hobby that is more demanding of maturity than other people and that's whether you're a single that's whether it's whether you're talking about relationship health safety all of it it doesn't matter this is the most mature thing in the world you can do so you have to fucking be mature about it so keep that in mind as we go through and we we do some of this stuff okay so that's the first part i wanted to talk about.

Okay. I should have taken a fucking Benadryl. Congratulations. Okay. Say something for a few minutes. Oh, really? No. You want to talk for a second? What am I going to talk about? I don't know. I'd talk loud, though. You would talk... Oh, good grief. Oh, sick. Yeah. That's how you know our show is real. Right? There it is. Real people get boogers. Okay. Do we have to announce it? No, I want the people listening home to think that there was an air horn that just exploded in the studio. Oh, my God. Anyway, this is what happens when I have all-day golf meetings. Just saying.

Anyways, okay, so we actually were talking about that today. What? We were not golfing, that we can officially both say we were at a golf meeting. We were at a meeting on the golf course. There you go. We didn't have to say it. It had windmills and stuff. It had water hazards, weird hills, and, yeah, you know. Obstacles.

We didn't had one of the owners there to see if we could win another round i think we were both glad we didn't win another round just saying because it was really hot so it was like so i think we were both kind i see that yeah now you want to know what's funny was the couple behind us that were like professional golfers you could tell they were like because like, because they were coming up on us fast. We had like a six-hole lead, and they were like, whap, whap. You know, they'd obviously been golfing that course a few too many times.

But congratulations to them for putting down the lightsaber and getting out in the sun. Oh, my gosh. Do we have anybody say anything about that? I guess I should ask that. Yeah, you have. Yeah, but what color is it? You're snot. Oh, it's still clear. He's still safe. It's still safe, and it doesn't taste funny. Oh, wow. Do you want to take a half? Are we at half? We can't be at half yet. We're already at half. Okay, fine. I'm going to go to him. Fuck.

Do half and then we at half we can't be in half yet yeah we're already at half mm-hmm well okay do happen then we gotta continue I don't do the half we'll get the guy in okay I heard it was a chick today no god damn it all right so hold on real quick we're gonna take a quick break. We're going to be right back to talk some more. Crazy winter nights are coming. Dun. January 17th through the 19th. Omaha, Nebraska. Are you ready? Get your tickets today at www.crazywinternights.com and come and see the spectacle that is Crazy Winter Nights. Do you want to be educated? Do you want to party?

Do you want to have fun? This is your chance. 80,000 square feet of conference and boardrooms filled for your delight. We'll have a Friday night leather and lace party, the Saturday night formal black tie optional event, and world-famous panelists around the world. Sign up today at www.crazywinternights.com. See you there. And we're back. Oh, my God. Just entertainment. That fucking guy is awesome. I love that dude. Yeah, he's really loud, though.

We should have him come in and do more events for us okay uh was that too loud it was a little too loud but that's okay that's what editing is for anyways uh you know you can't you get a guy like that he's excited about stuff what are you gonna do i mean that's just a level of excitement that you just don't see very damn often okay yeah okay go on with your next part of that question okay so now so the next area of the next part of the topic that we want to cover and it's it all ties in together because it really is part of the same thing let's talk about trust baby let's talk about trust here's one of the challenges that the lifestyle present the modern day lifestyle presents okay and we talk about this all the time just like us we have a secret facebook page crazy casbah with over 3 000 members on it we actually have five different pages on there uh there's multiple websites out there pay websites there is kit groups there's me we there's there's i mean there's chat rooms there's a million social media and electronic ways to communicate in the lifestyle that you get the old swingers the old lifestyle people remember the day when it was all snail mail okay so everything is instantly at our fingertips one of the biggest thing that obviously we all have are probably you know maybe there's like 10 people in the world that don't have it that are swingers is a smartphone okay so right we've done it we use it to text you use it to get in chat groups whatever the case may be and the the fun part of that is it is a great way to do a lot of flirting, a lot of, you know, getting primed, dirty pictures, dirty comments, maybe a little sexting, whatever the case may be, getting to know people.

Hookups. Hookups, whatever. The challenge with that is, it's a great place for bullshit, lies, and a bunch of false promises also. Because we've been a part of that as well.

You know, people that'll, they sext a great place for bullshit lies and a bunch of false promises also because we've been a part of that as well you know people that'll they sex a great game they talk a great game and then we hook up with them and they're chasing crickets on the fucking floor instead and you leave pissed off and put your car in a ditch okay literally so we've been a part of all of the above so but the the other and that's not really the biggest challenge with it but with all the social media and all the instant access that people have to each other when you are a couple and you are playing whether you're playing with another couple or you're playing you know individually whatever the case may be we hear all the time people have and and we did two rules on social media right so are we sure we're loud enough this looks really thin just keep going uh so anyways everybody has rules on these because because it's communicating so there are some couples that say they only they won't chat with people the opposite sex the only like so if it's like a couples we've had couples like that he would chat with me and i would and and you you and the other gal would chat there's some that they have to be on a group chat together there's some that you know there's all different sets of roles but again it's what you're comfortable with but we see this all the fucking time you hear about it all the time that the forms of communication because you're talking about communicating something that's in the palm of your hand right you know some people have laptops and you can take laptops and and you know desktop computers most people are doing things on the palm of their hand which means they have instant access 24 hours a day seven days a week anywhere where they're at now here's the challenge that's a great thing you know for safety for it's a great thing for people playing alone we've had that so that when i'm done or when you're done we're able to immediately text the other one and go we're done or we're on our way home or what you know so there's a lot of pluses to it but the problem is things can get carried away on text messages and social media really fucking fast mm-hmm okay we know that sometimes it's emotions sometimes it's the thrill of the chase sometimes.

Sometimes it's the dirty factor of being able to get a message at work. Look, as a married couple, we do this. I've sent you dirty pictures. You send me dirty pictures of each other, you know, whatever, at our chops. So it can spice up a relationship.

It's also easy when you're starting to talk to somebody, you're getting to know somebody you've played with or somebody you maybe want to play with or whatever next thing you know well it starts off innocent enough maybe a couple times at work i i and here look i'm speaking 100 from experience okay you're at work and you you send a quick message and pretty or maybe over lunch you do you text a little bit the next thing you know you're texting throughout the whole day and maybe it happens once or twice a week at first and it's every day and that's at night at home and next thing you know you are having as much interaction really with this other person or persons as if you were face-to-face with them.

Now, okay, that can be a good thing. Don't get me wrong. But the challenge is with that, how does a communication or how does a relationship start? It starts with communication. I do weddings.

For those of you i'm an efficient if you need to get married let me know anyway so one of the things that i talk about in it when i when i do a wedding is look when you first met somebody you probably didn't ever envision your wedding day coming but it was through talking you got to know the person better and your feelings grew look it's a different world kids your feelings can grow through electronic just as well as if it's face to face so what starts to happen is relationship feelings emotion a comfort level starts to increase okay now we're not saying let's all go back to stanwell take quick burn your fucking cell phones no we're not saying that shit okay but it's a very real thing that happens every couple's different about rules on texting and communicating okay and they're also different on rules with each other on what they can or can't see.

And here's the deal. I'm not going to rule shame anybody. Okay. But I am. But I am. Here's my thing. If your fucking rule, if you're married, number one, if you're fucking married and at any point in time your spouse cannot walk up and pick up your phone without you freaking the fuck out you're doing something wrong i don't give a shit if anybody believes me or not well that's our private business then i'll say fuck you when you're married here's the deal this is how this works your money is my money my bills are your your bills. See, I did that. Okay. You're funny.

Everything is, that's part of fucking marriage. Now, I'm sorry if you should have an understanding about what's going on. I have never once text or sent anything to anybody, including Christmas list, because I love to give you your presents early, that you couldn't see, okay? So the reality of this is, is that, A, number one, if your rules are closed on phones, if you're married, now if you're in a dating relationship, totally different ballgame, you know, have accordingly, but realistically, you shouldn't want to be sending anything out that your spouse should not be able to see.

I'm sorry, that's bullshit. People don't like it, fuck off. I don't care. Because it's, it, sorry that's bullshit people don't like it fuck off i don't care because it's it it's communication now by the same token there's a respect factor look if every two seconds i set my phone down your fucking happy ass is over there touching my phone i'm gonna break your fucking fingers i don't pick up your phone well but either you believe me or you don't. Because again, what do we talk about all the time? Swinging is about fucking communication. Okay?

So there shouldn't be an issue of lack of communication there. Mm-hmm. Okay? Now, this is for all the people who haven't figured this out.

If you're doing nothing wrong with any piece of electronic, if you have you've seen this before they're supposed to be on their computer laptop doing whatever you walk in and they immediately slam their laptop closed it's a pretty good sign the little fuckers are doing something they're not supposed to be doing okay if I'm sitting on the phone and I'm texting somebody and you go who are you texting and i say nobody and then you move around behind me and i quick shut off my phone there's a pretty good fucking chance i'm doing something i'm not supposed to do and the same with you right or if i never let my phone out of my sight or you never let your phone out of your site for fear of i don't let my phone on my site but i do well but but at home i mean like you know if it rings or if it bings you go hey go check that for me that's not the sign of hiding something okay so number one you have to have the rules you both agree upon you also have to follow those rules okay and and if you reach a point that you're not comfortable with the rules that you and your spouse or significant other have said then you need to talk about changing the rules and you need to talk about why okay and i understand maybe you know maybe you don't want to see maybe whatever i get it but there's a couple i kind of want to see what other people are texting you sometimes not every when we first started off i wanted to see more because i wanted to see a how people were flirting because maybe i need to take lessons um b maybe it's hot right and then go wow did that turn you on let's go fuck right right yeah you know or hey maybe i want to see that picture well yeah well and it was also times we helped each other yeah how do i respond to that yeah how do i respond you made it so there were were times that I didn't respond back with like, you know, hey, I'm 70s cheeseball guy.

Hey, baby, you know, are you a star? Or what do they mean by that? Yeah, there was a degree of working together with it. But there are some that are just innocent conversations, which you shouldn't be afraid to show no, but if they're asking advice You know, I've had several people ask me for advice on What does that mean and having to give lessons between you know a difference between a man and a woman?

But or the thought process exactly but the reality of it is the lifestyle if you got into the lifestyle as a couple You've got even if you now go and do it a different way it was something designed to share and it's it's like here we go again remember the most adult hobby you can have is sticking your penis in somebody else's pussy or having a penis stuck in your pussy that is an adult hobby to have that takes communication that takes trust and you have to have that trust now if you're somebody if you're just like if you have nothing to hide okay look and just go i heard in the car business all the time you know well my wife's just nosy okay well then you have a separate issue to work on acting like you're hiding shit is not going to help that issue you need to deal with what that issue is and solve it if you legitimately have something to hide and here's the thing i know look you know there are ways that you can take and and you can doctor instant messages you can erase text messages just pick and choose the ones you want and there's a There's a lot that that you can do okay you really need to take a hard look at yourself and figure out what the fuck you're doing okay because part of the reason this pisses me off so bad seriously is that that is taking your issue with your marriage or your whatever and you're throwing that out on someone who's just trying to get laid you know what i mean if i'm in it for sport fucking and in turn what i'm gonna get is all of a sudden this fucking clusterfuck because you're hiding shit and all of a sudden your husband's gonna come fucking knocking down the door and screaming at me you do not have the right to do that okay you don't have the right to do that i also think if if if the roles if it was me if i was doing that i could totally understand why you would not trust me because here's the thing if you can't trust me with something as simple as the phone or with or with how often i'm talking to somebody or or you know sending a message to one of the pay websites or whatever the case may be how can you trust me when you're out of town out of family members and there's an event going on how how can you trust me to go there and do or not do what, you know, we've decided upon are the rules?

Because at that point in time, we have no adult supervision. So you have to, look. Even people that aren't in the lifestyle, you think about, okay, sadly enough, I had to play counselor to my sister-in-law because my brother, the idiot, I can't say it. I can say it. He's an idiot. Okay, whatever. But it was before, well, it wasn't before cell phones, but he liked to go on the laptop and he liked to send messages to people and talk to people, other women on different chat groups.

right and and my sister-in-law found out and she was all kinds of been up and I said well has has he met any of these women well I don't know well I don't know either but does it make it hotter in the bedroom did it I don't remember what their answer was to that she she was more hurt that he was going behind her back and messaging people and she was finding out the hard way well and and that and that's just it it is it is a look it a lot of times there's a kink there there's a there we You have to understand is a kink there in terms of it is hot that kind of secretness if that's your kink rock on but you need to make sure that your significant other knows that that's your kink now if look if you tell me that look there's this one guy and we're texting pretty dirty and i you know i want to keep it just between him and i whatever because i find that really hot okay we've communicated about it we know that this is the guy and then after that if you go well i really dig that okay then we can talk if i'm okay with that for the long the long haul the same vice versa because we love each other and respect each other we're gonna go okay we'll work with that because that's your king just like i dig fucking covering your mouth when we fuck okay so it is what it is right so but we talked about i didn't just like so yeah yeah the thrash part's hot uh i didn't just fucking grab you and fucking you know surprise you with it so but we talked about it but again you have to have the communication that goes with it because if you don't somebody's gonna get hurt somebody's gonna get their feelings they're gonna feel left out it's going to.

Well, when we were first meeting up with the cricket couple. Oh, God. What a nightmare. He tried to message me, and it was just general conversation. Oh, yeah. She was messaging you. It was hot as fuck. And it was all perverted and sexual and everything else. And I'm like, I don't get that. But maybe I just didn't flirt right. But here's what's really funny.

When it came time, dude, neither one of us got a shit she could text a great game but she could catch a cricket at 30 paces diving across off the couch but it knew i was just like so what what are y'all texting what are you texting yeah and i said that numerous times because i didn't know well ours were coming okay so you guys i remember that because you guys would text It be like text pause text pause pause text and my over here we're between her and i it sounded like ding and you know so but yeah but then we got to the point where just like we handed the phones to each other there'd be so many texts every break we'd hand the phones to each other to to to read it i understand not everybody you know is gonna wanna not everybody shares as much as we do I don't think and that's okay and we're not saying you have to to share the same amount but the reality of it is is that you have to be on the same page look trust in the lifestyle is a fucking extremely delicate flower.

That's really the best way to put it, and that's exactly what it is. It is like a really, really delicate flower. And the thing is, it starts off with a shit ton of petals on it, right?

But every time, okay, for those who know, a peony is a beautiful flower and but every time you touch it a couple you know or you shake it a couple of the petals fall off but the thing with a flower is i'd rather be a girl with a flower than a boy silly boy with a stick uh anyways but the thing with the flower is the thing with the flower is uh the thing with the flowers is that once those petals fall off, you can't put them back on. The only way to get a new flower with a full bloom on it is to regrow it from the very fucking start.

So what I'm trying to throw out there, and here's the hidden message. I know that's kind of a deep one. Such an analogy.

Man, here's the hidden message i know that's kind of such an analogy man what here's the hidden message is is that you know when you lose all trust you have to start all the way over from the beginning and that is a slow long painful process can be yeah it doesn't just blossom overnight that's not how it works there's always going to be things especially in this lifestyle that are going to cause people to you know shake that flower and have a petal fall off here and there that's going to happen but there's ways we can minimize it okay so i'm kind of looking through some of the comments off of our secret facebook page and okay and we got to be one and some people are saying hey you know it didn't fix our marriage but it strengthened it and look here's the deal there's no set answer again we don't we don't claim that one answer fits all okay there's going to be exceptions to the rules okay but what i can say is this after 27 years of doing this in terms of being a married couple we've been through it all damn near okay so i'll give the background i don't fucking care yeah i'll give the background we were the uh unmarried kids in college i knocked you up we had a kid we had to make the decision you had to make the decision if you were going to go back home we'd only known each other for two months oh yeah we all knew each other for two months when i knocked you months when I knocked you up.

You know, we had to make the decision. You had to make the decision if you were going to go home. You gave me, I had to make the decision if I was going to be a real dad or just walk away from the whole thing. Let's see. Yes, I gave him that option. My parents, my parents at that point, I don't blame them. We didn't tell them about the first grandkid until two days after he was born. We're pissed and weren't talking to us. Your mom had just died. You know, your dad was hands off. I mean, letting us have our space. And all we had was each other.

We had no fucking money, no fucking clue what the fuck we were doing, no fucking help so we what we did and our baby was born three months premature yeah i'm sorry that's right and our baby our baby was born three months premature two pounds nine ounces nine ounces uh with extra toes and all kinds of shit and and the thing is is okay and here we were and so we went through a lot of a lot of shit and we went through a lot of people pissed off because we didn't go get married right away we said we'd wait sure we'd love each other before we got married so when we talk about marriage i'm pretty confident we have a pretty good basis for our marriage i understand that every now and then look a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then if i had to bet on whether or not the lifestyle i i hear a lot more people say victim of the lifestyle versus champion of the lifestyle i've said a million on this show too, you know what?

If you'd have given in all those years ago when I begged wanting to do this, when we were in our 20s, we'd have been fucked. We were not ready for this. So, you know, I guess the thing is, is keep in mind what we're doing.

It's just, look, it's just just a fucking hobby it's not worth throwing marriage away or throwing a relationship away it really isn't the lifestyle is not for everybody there's nothing wrong with that and sometimes you have to step back and re-establish your relationship before you go back in if that's what you want to do yeah and and the thing is is grow each experience you grow from it rock on you get bigger better and and you understand it you know and i agree look the lifestyle strengthened ours it it hasn't i shouldn't say it's strengthened it it's done it's added positive things to it it hasn't it hasn't been negative in any way shape or form to it uh we were afraid when we got old we wouldn't have anything to talk about yeah no shit got that solved pussies uh penises uh but i mean you know the thing is is it really that's the truth though it what it's done is it's helped keep our communication skills fresh it's kept our life fresh and exciting sometimes too exciting but i I mean, it and there's still there's a lot of pluses of being in it but like i said there's a reason we're not the only person people out there that say victims of the lifestyle you know don't fucking do that don't don't be there don't do that so oh wow really holy shit you think it What happens when you babble?

No. See? This is perfect, bitch. So Oh wow Really? Mm-hmm Holy shit See what happens when you babble? No See? This is perfect, bitch Well, if What was it? Angry wife?

If we didn't Worried wife Worried wife Then she can email us And we can cover it more Yeah So the thing is By the way I want to thank everybody For tuning in with us on this one Because I know that we're doing this A little different than we normally do See, that's a different thing with us though what we're creative well here's the thing i want people to know look if you send us a question and there's certain parts of you are afraid that will give too much away or whatever if you let us know that we will work to make sure that we are able to answer your questions in a way that is uh off the wall i have throw it against the wall see what sticks but no we'll work to try to answer it different ways you know i mean obviously we were we are very humbled to have some of the questions that get asked us that's that's pretty damn cool but you know and we try to have as much fun as humanly possible And we'll bring that one guy In that does the commercials For us That fucking guy is awesome He just kicks ass And takes fucking Names all over The fucking place Uh so Yeah so There you go Uh hopefully here next week We will be back On our regular Our regular schedule Of recording Of course this show Will go out Thursday Uh and I do have Some sex stories i've been saving up and i do have some other swinger stories that we've been saving up so we got all we got some we got some exciting shit coming i don't want to shoot my load until our 69th episode yeah i can't wait for that one i'm just gonna fucking i'm gonna make fucking sex 69 jokes that whole show hey you laugh you can deep load that microphone if you want because i'm gonna fucking put a cock on it it's too big man i've watched your mouth flap and put some big shit in there well that's it sorry miss amanda won't be around for a while she just got electrocuted by first sucking the dick of the microphone no that was my jaw my jaw popping.

Oh, was it? Well, this man is like a snake. Okay, so I might dislocate it. I mean, line up, guys. Well, you know, if she dislocates it, then, you know, it is what it is. It's more fucking... Yeah, so, I mean, uh... Nah, I'm just thinking of something I can't share. Well, that's really fucking... Well, that's rude of me now, isn't it?

I'm just thinking of stuff I can't share well that's really fucking well that's rude of me now isn't it thinking of stuff i can't share on the air you go out and have fun i was i was paying debts i pay i was paying up damn it you're such a ho golfing does not make like golfing doesn't I had a green ball Not a blue one No, she had a blue ball She had a green ball. Not a blue one. No, she had a blue ball. She had a blue ball and I had a green ball. And she smacked it. She smacked it. Yep, she's fucking knocking that fucker around like, no, tomorrow. Yeah, that was pretty awesome.

I got to tell you what, I'm starting to begin to like the beginning parts of the week. Yeah, I'm sure you are. It sure seems to be a lot of fun. All right, and that's a great place for us to leave before I get my ass in serious trouble. So, stay with us, and, yeah. Like, you're going to get in trouble. Okay. I'm sure we can have a whole episode to see what it takes to piss you off enough to get me in trouble. Well, I don't know if I'd necessarily go there, because then I come out looking like a bitch, and that's not going to happen. Yeah, we don't want that.

I'll just, you know, hide it all and then yell at me. Yeah, yell at me as soon as we go off the fucking air, absolutely. All right. Well, once again, kids, hey, don't forget to check out all of our stuff. The guy with the cool voice already left. Don't forget to check out all of our stuff for Crazy Winter Nights. We sure would love to have you there. We're going to have some big announcements coming out very, very soon. So make sure that you're tuning in to www.crazywinternights.com. Feel free to send us emails at www. No, what the fuck am I doing?

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Anyway, so, doing it the only way I know how, the only way I want to, the only way I ever fucking will. Kazma Style, out. Bye.