
The Krazy Truth about Swinging · Kole Snodgrass
Krazy Truth #58 Milfs, Gilfs and God
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Send us Fan MailThis week we are talking about Balancing Swinging and the swinger lifestyle with Family and family needs. We talk about understanding there are lots swinger parties and events. We also talk about Milfs, Gilfs and how full swap and soft swap can be different for males versus females. Finally we talk about Religion and the Swinger, kink, poly lifestyle.Check out all our shows at: http://www.buzzsprout.com/181336Visit us at: http://www.krazykasbh.comfollow us on twitter @TruthKrazySubscribe to our YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/kasbhSend us an email at [email protected] Support the show
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Tell them CASBA sent you, and don't forget to register for our big weekend at Natural Pines Resort, Augustnd through the 4th hey you crazy motherfuckers welcome back to another edition of crazy truth i am cole i'm the host with the most and we're with the lovely lovely and kind of sleepy miss amanda i need more sound by the way anyway so uh we are here it is uh this is gonna be the last show for j. Isn't that awesome? Do. June's almost over. I know. Where is this year going? Yeah, no doubt. So, hey, I'm putting this out here. So those of you who listen, the next show, perfect.
The next show that we'll be doing, the first show in July, falls on July 4th. And we will be releasing a new show July 4th, so make sure. Don't think we take a week. We don't do that here. We don't slack god damn it. We're just all over this shit. Like a boss. Like a cheap suit. Alright so luckily we were actually able to be here. We are tired and sleepy because we were out on the road and it didn't look like we were going to get to record live tonight but we did. Woohoo did because we're that good. So, are you ready to go? Sure am. All right, then off we go.
All right, so got a couple of different questions. No, I don't have a sex story. We were on the road. I wasn't looking. I was constantly driving, safety first. That's the way we are. And you didn't have some sex story along the way. No. Nope, I'm sure there was a hooker somewhere. Scrolling through social media, nothing. I was driving. I don't scrolling. We were rolling, not scrolling. Yep. But I didn't have time to think of that dandy old fucking day. Yeah, you did. Sweet. Okay.
So our first question comes to us from James and and michelle they are out of houston texas they listen to us on a podcast system they're not a sponsor so i'm not gonna say who anyways so uh james and michelle are new in the lifestyle new being that they've been in the lifestyle for right in the neighborhood of about six months and as summers approach one of the things that they have found they they are a younger couple i don't know how young i didn't ask but they have kids so they have family type stuff activities that go on and so they were talking about how it seems like everything falls on weekends when they have family stuff and that some some of the new people that they've met in their little group or whatever are not very understanding that they can't participate in some activities because of sitters and whatever and so it's okay so their question is how do you deal with how do you deal with when family family and sitters and those type of things collide with activities that you want to do in the lifestyle.
This is, okay, so you love new people's questions because I get it. Well, they're all excited. Right. They're all excited. And we didn't go through this because we didn't have little kids. We were past the age of needing sitters when we got in the lifestyle Right. Okay. So, and I can also understand it is a challenge. I mean, it really is a challenge. Now, look, here's the thing. Remember what swinging is supposed to be. I mean, really. Swinging is not supposed to be a primary thing.
It's supposed to be an enhancement it's like swinging is like salad dressing okay this is the best analogy that i can put this at it's like salad dressing right you may eat a salad without salad dressing that's totally possible right that's something that might be that you might like to do maybe you don't want any ranch or you don't want any dorothy lynch or whatever the case is but you put the salad dressing on to make it taste just a little bit better right so that's what swinging is it's the ranch dressing of life same color spoo but i mean seriously it's a it's an enhancer right it's not a requirement so number one you know everybody what they consider a priority for family thing that's up to them right but family should come first and in a perfect world family activity should come first right eventually something will coincide with kids and sitters exactly not you just have to be be patient.
Well, and okay, let's face it. We know because this season, tis the season for camp outs and stuff like that, which are overnight things. Obviously, it's a little bit easier to get a sitter when you're doing something that's like going to the club. I would imagine when we had little kids, the bars were only open until one. Right.
So know bars are open different places two three later wherever so i can see sitters are used to being up a little bit later so i can see it'd be easier to get a sitter a case on a weekend till two in the morning right but it is a little look for those of you who don't have kids or you got into this after your kids were older it's very hard to ask a sitter to stay overnight and to try to explain why without like you know well why aren't you taking any luggage you know type thing i mean it raises all kinds of questions so number one look if they if the people are truly your friends they'll understand right.
Right? They will understand. If they're not, then they need to fuck off. Right. I mean, really. But look, most of the big events are usually put out there well in advance. I mean, you look at crazy summer nights. We started talking about crazy summer nights the beginning of May. Okay. And it's in August.
So to give people plenty of time so a good way to deal with that is you know maybe that's the weekend you have mom and dad the kids go over to the grandparents for the weekend you know you don't tell them there's any other activities but that's you try to finagle that or go stay you know a sleepover or something like that that's a great way to do that uh i here's the thing we have different opinions on whole thing of swinging with kids than a lot of people yes okay so and we're not again for those of you who don't know it's only our fucking opinion so send us hate mail we'll make your facebook famous uh but some people are totally okay with having other couples over to their house if there's kids sleeping or whatever.
That's not our thing. We don't feel comfortable with that. If you do, rock on. But here's the thing. If you're going to do that, you might, I don't know, you might want to think that through a little bit.
i mean seriously look we all know that we all heard the funny stories and everything of the kid that walks in on his parents right okay and people come with all the cute explanations and whatever with that it's a hell of a lot harder to try to explain it when the kid walks in on six couples on a mound of flesh bouncing around on a bed why is mommy fucking somebody other than daddy there's usually not that well i've never seen somebody have that many people over no but i mean it i'm just saying it could happen i mean it's just the reality of it is the other thing about others don't assume your kids are that dumb no there's a lot of people that think their kids don't have a clue i swear to god my kids don't know bullshit they don't know uh you might be surprised they don't kids are a lot smarter now than they used to be so so don't make the assumption you know look kids see what you wear out okay i'm just i'm just gonna throw it out there kids see so if you have a sitter and mom's usually pretty conservative soccer mom whatever professional mom whatever and every time you go out mom looks like a whore and her tits are hanging out and there's a lot of lace and hooker heels they might have something figured out yeah i'm i'm just you know just saying same with dad's outfit so so like kind of think that through just a little bit if your kids are in junior high and you're going out a lot your kids know that you're a swinger or there's something else going on there's something going on they might not have a clue that exactly what it is but no but if they're explaining it to their friends their friends will help them out they're a swinger so they must like to go dancing at this really risque club.
Yeah. They know. Or if you hang out with the same people every weekend and they're never invited. That can be a giveaway. Depends on how naive your kids are. Okay, well, they're not as naive as you think. Yeah, I know. I think the funniest thing we listen to all the time, oh, no, our kids don't know. They don't have a clue. Really? And then you tell us the questions that they ask them in the comments they make, they fucking know. Yeah. They know completely that you're a swinger. It is what it is. But you just want to kind of think that through a little bit.
There are other things you can do, though.
You can have, like, our group for those that don't know we have the world famous uh secret crazy casbah page on facebook we've got some uh folks that are putting together a family it's a family barbecue is what it is it's it's basically another form of a meet and greet but it's for families there's no sex stuff gonna go on at all it's just a way to meet people it's just a way to meet people like you know like a picnic like normal so you know maybe you think about putting some things like that together can't really ask the typical swinger questions well and you know what and that and that's not all bad no it's not you know because no you can't be like so hey what are you into you know it's gonna stop you from being fucking drunk.
You're not going to be able to start macking on just somebody random. It's literally a way to actually get to know people. So be a little creative. Come up with it.
Look, you don't have to own a club or a group or anything to come up to do a meet and greet or some form of an activity to get other people together right see i think that's a huge mistake and misnomer i think a lot of people think that you know you have to take in like you know well there's people that put these things on they do that you don't that's not required there's not like you don't have to go get like your swinger party planner license or something or some shit most of the time we all first the first time we put on an event we had no idea what the fuck we were doing yeah at all some of us still have no clue what we're doing but so you know if you've got a group of your friends and they all have kids and whatever well you know what maybe you know a couple you got boats or campers or whatever whatever the case may be yeah maybe have a barbecue or you have something like that that's just a family thing it's just a way to get no pressure no that's really one of the best parts about it yeah i mean literally there's no pressure just talking fun time fun afternoon enjoying the summer and then you can kind of see you're going to get to see a more real, um, a real image of what people are, of what people are really like without all the swinger ooh and ah, the swinger fog.
That's what it is. The swinger fog that usually, they usually accompanies most, most, uh, meet and greet events. Yeah. There you go. The ether. Yeah.
So, you know, do something like that there there will come a time that it will work with their schedule it's just not going to be as often as they want it to exactly and don't worry new people newbies don't worry there's not an end of the swinger activities anytime soon no there there is granted i know it's harder for people in certain communities because small communities blah i get all that but in cities all over the country every single weekend every friday night every saturday night lots of thursday night there is a swinger event party something going on every single one so if you can't make like 10 in a row Look's look we don't take attendance at these things no i mean we do i mean you know who's there yeah but it's not like well you know what call amanda i'm sorry they they're one more and they're out of the group yeah nobody you know you have people all the time that life happens.
And so maybe it's not kids. Maybe it's some other shit. It's come up, whatever. Life happens, and you may not get out of the house for two or three months. Or throw out to the people that are hosting the event and say, we'd really like to come, but we don't have a sitter. Do you know one? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or do you have an ability to do like a planned sitter thing? Yep, we've heard of that.
People have done that before, like a group of people going together and get a sitter shit in some towns there are towns that have 24-hour babysitting like drop-offs obviously be comfortable with it blah you brought up a great point though one thing look if it's a huge event like okay well i'll use our crazy summer nights or our crazy winter nights okay you don't and you can't go to it you don't need to get a hold of us and say hey i'm really sorry i can't get a sitter i can't come okay there's gonna be 800 people there it's okay we get it if you're getting invites to small events you know the the house parties the maybe it's to go you know we're gonna go boating all day and then we're gonna go out that night maybe it's maybe it's the like the smaller hotel you know we there's one one group in South Dakota that does they take over a bar and kind of tie it in with a hotel it's kind of a smaller intimate group type thing if you're getting invites to those those you might want to fucking just give them a heads up and say hey please don't quit inviting me you know it's we're not not showing up because we don't want to be here but this is why because obviously like if you have one couple that invites you to house parties and you never ever go well then they're going to think that you know something else is up you know but just just tell them i go back though let's okay how would you because i'm not as i'm i can be smooth and professional but i tend to be a little more blunt with with fucktards than you do okay i'm not so okay well i mean how would you say to the people that are i to me it's kind of bullying you know i understand that you really want to fuck us and that's great but if you can't understand i have a life and family go fuck yourself then you're just being a thirsty tool so for the people that were kind of making fun of them about how they never can get a sitter and stuff what would you say to them well i would probably be nicer than what i would i would either say well do you know somebody because and that would pretty much shout out that you're still interested but you can't find somebody you know you're new to the area we don't know a lot of people that are babysitting age if you know of some people let me know right or you can go well i understand if you think that we're blowing you off, but this is...
But we're not blowing you anywhere. Exactly. But, you know, our family does come first. And if I can't find a sitter, I'm not leaving my kids alone. Okay. So what would you say, though? Because you know how I am. I'm always anticipating three women's head. Because you know someone's going to say to them, well, just bring them along Cause once the kids go to sleep with him, it's no big deal.
Um, me personally would say, um, no, I don't want to have to explain why the screaming and racket and, you know, thumping, you know, or I personally would say say I don't think that it would be appropriate to bring my children along. See, you're nicer than I am. Because what I would say is, no. Yep, that would be it. No. Why not? Because they're my kids. Fuck off. I don't believe in it.
I mean, at that point, look, if people are doing that to you and they're really, reallyounding hounding hounding okay we talk about this all the time they're thirsty i was gonna say there's a reason why they're hounding they're thirsty remember the thing with the lifestyle is it doesn't matter how everybody else does it look if if there's something that you're not comfortable with whether it's a theme theme of a party, whether it's whatever, and especially when it comes to family stuff, then that's the stopping point for you. End of story. That's what I say.
You never have to justify, or you should not have to, and you'll get to a point you won't, that you should never have to justify it because of family stuff, what you do attend or don't attend attend okay and if anybody is trying to you know i promise you when you've been in it two years uh you won't be the fresh meat so okay so i mean well really i mean they've been in it six months so you know what you guys are fresh meat so there's a lot of people that are like yeah because they want it you know they're i'm awfully thirsty and they want a shot at that so you know but still your family comes first i i can tell you we have seen this before when you start putting swinging or the lifestyle in general above family stuff it creates nothing but problems because then you as a parent you can start feeling guilty about not spending enough time with your kids or if the kids start to know or people start to ask questions and you know family always has to come first it's just that's just the way it is so that's i thought that was a really good question because that's shit we don't deal with no you know we but we had some we talked about because we've talked about with our big events trying to make sure we have to see if there's a way to have take care so more people ask us so you're not the only one yeah no you're you're not the only one i think you're gonna find guys when you are out at parties in houston that we see it all the time parents with kids what do they start talking about if you if you have high school age kids and they have high school age kids once you get through the the standard swinger question so what are you into are you buying so next you know you're talking about your kids you're talking about their high school events we've listened to people talk about their little kids uh like school programs and shit you know a couple so you're not the only one it's not like you're the only one little kids and everybody else is you.
It really doesn't work that way at all. In fact, there'll be times you'll be at meet and greets and just be like, can we not talk about kids because we're supposed to be talking about fucking. You're just like, yep, great, yep. Shit, anymore, you know, how many times have we shared pictures and people shared pictures like new grandparent? I mean, it's like a big thing. Oh, buy you a drink.
I heard you're a new grandparent.parent yay you know as you get to know they're friends so that's what you do well and you know what hey it is what it is it's not just milfs there's gilfs now when you think about it i got to think about this the other day i can actually never thought i'd say this at 47 old I've actually I think I've fucked more gilfs than I have milfs like seriously think about this think about like the last the last five that I've hooked up with which has been spread over a long period of time all of them are grandmas that is true sexy grandmas mm-hmm it's so awesome very true kids younger grandma's still flexible You're welcome.
That is true. Sexy grandmas. Mm-hmm. It's so awesome. Very true. Having kids younger. Grandma's still flexible. You can still lift your legs up, twist her. I'm not worried about hips breaking yet or anything like that. You think about it. Now, wait a minute. Think about this for a second. Realistically, oh, God, this is fucked up.
Because as young as we are, and as young as some of the people you know started just like we had our kids young if we did this for another 20 years okay so that puts us 67 68 years old really get me out of a nursing home no but think about this for a minute Realistically We could be having sex With G-g-g-g-gils Which would be great grandmas We could realistically be having sex With great grandparents Oh that's fucked up man Think about that for a minute And that still Wouldn't be that old 67, 68 I mean you're kind of For you it wouldn't be that old 67 68 i mean you're kind of for you it wouldn't be that old your family lives to 180 so i mean but for some of us some people would be older than others there are people on our on our page that are older than that that's true like 20 years older than that that is true so if you think about this for a minute Well, that almost gold the first time that that may be the old fucking that may be the tapping out bell after the first great grandma i have no idea so if you started swinging and you were 20 okay as a guy i'm just thinking this through for a minute of course you are as a guy because guys it's a big thing if you start when you were 20, okay, as a guy, I'm just thinking this through for a minute.
Of course you are. As a guy, because guys, it's a big thing. If you start when you're 20, you could easily, at one party, at like one big hotel party, at one big event, you could easily do your own age, a milf, a gilf, and a gilf. All at one fucking party. and fucking party And if you're at a By a raunchiest strip club They could all be strippers Oh that was horrible No it's true though There you go It's a new thing Bucket list I need my pen Hold on one second Oh gosh You actually You're using pen and paper. Do a gilf. You need to find one. Gilf. Yep. There you go. So now I'm on the search.
If you're a great-grandmother and your hips are so flexible, let me know. I want to be a trendsetter. I'm not even a gilf. No, no. That's okay. I'm okay with that. No, yeah. You're that in between milf and gilf. Because, well, because a milf is a mom I want to fuck. Well, yeah, you're a mom, but your kids are all grown. But you're not a gilf because we don't have grandkids. Thank you very much, boys. Keep up the good work. But I'm just saying, so, you know, I mean, that's, I mean, so yeah, you're still a milf. You're like a milf squared. That's what you are.
You're like a milf to the next power. Okay. I want a shirt that says I'm a great grandma fucker. That's what I want now. Ooh. So that means, actually, think about this. You could fuck a milf, a gilf, and a granddaughter and a great-granddaughter all at the same party. Think about that for a minute. Seriously, because you're 20. You're a semi-girls. Well, I'm just hoping it runs into an apple tree, doesn't fall for her. So if you figure, you're like 20, 21, right?
So if you hit a MILF that's like mid-30s, a GILF that's like mid-40s, a GILF that is mid-60s, the mid-60s, so that would mean the GILF and the GILF would probably have a 20-something and a mid-30-something granddaughter and great-granddaughter. Damn! Yeah, you would be busy. There you go. I don't know where he comes up. This doesn't apply for guys. At all. It doesn't apply for guys? No, because by the time you're a... Let's see, grandfather. Gilf on the guy side, you're just using your cane to fuck the girl because they're't enough Viagra to make shit keep going. Well, I'm just saying.
There could be. You know how many new words we coin on this show? Because have you heard anybody else talk about Gagilf before? No. Where was the first place you heard that we all need to have the, ah, emoticon for gagging on a blowjob? That was right here at The Crazy Truth. We were fucking trendsetting up the, yeah. Wow. Look at him go. Yeah, this is awesome. Anybody say anything? No. Yeah. Someone said, I think Cole's lost his damn mind. And I'm not kidding. Did anybody say anything? No. Yeah. Someone said, I think Cole's lost his damn mind. And I'm not kidding. Not kidding. Thank you, Joe.
I'm just thinking outside the box, man. No, I think you're thinking in the box. But see, that's going to carry over. Being a girl fucker would probably carry over to a fetish. Just saying.
so what you do is you have a thinking in the box but see that's gonna carry over then being a girl fucker would be probably carry over to a fetish just saying so what you do is you have a giant party at a at a nursing home where all the family comes to visit and then we can just rent a party room and we'll just throw a whole wardrobe okay just cover it with pineapples black rings and see who ventures in and and then it's game then it's fucking game on from there Oh boy If it was a kink or fetish It would be having sex with people who use a walker I'm pretty sure there is one out there There's one for everything Every time I try to come up with an idea It already exists You just gotta think like me'm not going to stick with that forever.
Okay, so. So. God. How we doing, sound guy? Sound guy is totally not even listening to the show at all. He's just like, these guys are. That's why I'm not a gil. He's like, fuck off, people. Okay, so. No reaction. No. He's doing something on his own. So, okay. Oh, hey, real quick. We'll touch on this. Come up with creative things real quick on creative other meet and greet ideas. Okay. Three minutes. Three minutes, four minutes. Okay, five, two, shh. Okay. Anyways, coming up with new creative ideas. Anything can be used.
We talked about the barbecue, you know, having like the family barbecue thing. I think that you're going to find interesting especially newbies this is for the newbies look unique ideas will make it a lot more fun and relaxing we are working on putting together a day at the range so a whole lot of folks on our page make sure they all like each other notion there will be no alcohol and there will be no sex at that event. Why will there be no sex at that event? Because we're not taking any chances. No, but I mean, you know, it's a fun activity that a whole lot of people enjoy.
I mean, not everybody, obviously. You're never going to find anything that everybody enjoys. But it's a fun activity, something totally different that's really just the ultimate no pressure.
I know a whole lot of people on our page but go together and go do um uh motorcycle rides have bikes that will just go and hey who we're we're gonna go ride in this area today whoever wants to come and you'll you'll get sometimes you'll get five or ten people show up sometimes you'll get 50 or 100 people off of the page that show up to go ride you know go on a day to get some wind therapy there's all kinds of cool stuff to do it doesn't have to be but when you're new it's all about fucking well yes yes it is that's true it's true that that type of stuff really you didn't hear about when we first started no you didn't and it was parties i understand the frustration you know sometimes doing something different like that and and we i know a lot of clubs in and around the surrounding area here and without a 200 mile radius have started to do more other activities that really are just more laid-back activities go to some of those two i know.
I know, yes, because you're right. When you're new, it is all about fucking. Look, it's an activity that doesn't lead about fucking, but sometimes when you're new, that makes for kind of a nice break because you can start putting too much pressure on yourself. Why aren't we getting laid enough? That is a couple always gets fucked.
Why aren't we getting fucked that much so it it takes the pressure away a little bit it takes the if maybe you're unsure or whatever the case may be we talked about this earlier it goes in spurts yeah it does you'll you'll have your lucky time you know three weeks three weekends in a row and all of a sudden you'll go four months without meeting anybody. Yeah. Okay. It just happens. And so sometimes when you start, one thing's for sure, when you start pushing too hard at the events that have the swinger fog around it and the magic, and you start pushing too hard, you won't get laid.
And so, you know, if you can do some stuff like that that's fun, whatever, and can incorporate other aspects of your life, you know, not everybody's into sport fucking. I get that. I don't know.
and so you know if you can do some stuff like that that's fun whatever and can incorporate other aspects of your life you know not everybody's into sport fucking i get that so if you can have other things that you know have interest and you can meet cool people and it can go from there rock on jump all over that okay so are we at half pretty close okay all right so uh we're gonna take a quick break with a word from our be right back. Hey, you know, normally I come on and talk to you about either another sponsor or checking out our personal website. Today I want to make a call out to you.
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Somebody else's. Fuck yeah, or mail. Snail mail. Hey, send this mail. You know the most mail we get in our postal box? Somebody else's. Somebody else's. Fuck yeah. And apparently they really like shirts and ties from some discount place. I throw a lot of those away. Just saying. Okay. You sure it's not a hint? Yeah. Yeah, that's me. I'm going to start dressing up in, yeah. Herb Tarlick, here I come. I know, older reference, no one will get that. For those over fucking 40, you'll understand what I mean. I didn't say they understand that. Okay. All right. It's just...
Dressing up in, you know, Herb Tarlick, here I come. I know, old reference, no one will get that. For those over fucking 40, you'll understand what I mean. I was going to say, they understand that. Okay. All right, so you ready for this next question? I don't know, am I? I don't know. I'm kind of iffy on it, too. Then go with something else if you're iffy. No, I'm not iffy. I'm not iffy on anything. Okay. Well, I'm kind of iffy on some things. Go for it. Not really. Okay.
Okay, so this has been Newbie Week newbie weeks and i kind of picked that i kind of picked these on purpose because it's been newbie newbie question week which is which is really good okay so uh this question comes to us from bob and bob they put on there bob and bob that's not our real names i'm like i kind of figured so we'll just say bob and bob uh anyways they are a new couple in the lifestyle and they are I don't know.
bob that's not our real names i'm like i kind of figured so we'll just say bob and bob uh anyways they are a new couple in the lifestyle and they are the struggle they're having is they're having the struggle of under being able to deal with swinging and the lifestyle and all the debauchery that it is and their religious convictions okay okay so and the sound guy rolls his eyes so here's the thing first of all one of the funniest things we've had it happen a couple of different times in fact where all of a sudden we're at an event and you're like hey we know them and i'm like hey we do and oh hey yes we do we know them from our church okay so number one all you're gonna see as you're new and you're just figuring this out you're gonna see all different kinds of people when you go to these things you're gonna see people from your church you're gonna see people uh we know people that their their son's little league coach was it was a swinger kind of out of the house party we know we know people that're co-workers, bosses, we've had that happen.
We've had that happen. A boss was a swinger. You're going to see lawyers, doctors, judges, you name it. Everything. Construction workers, bus drivers, all their walks. It wasn't just a boss. It was the boss.
It was a boss boss uh we have had people that we party with that are deacons of their church i mean we some that are just members of the same church we have people that are deacons and higher of their churches uh it's going to happen okay so their whole concern is you know they're dealing with the morality of the whole thing look at one point in time we talked about trying to talk about this subject and we actually never aired that show Thank you very much.
dealing with the morality of the whole thing look at one point in time we talked about trying to talk about this subject and we actually never aired that show no because that show sucked because i was trying to take the wrong approach with it okay right so we're gonna keep it way way simpler than that okay okay everything that you do in your life it doesn't matter from the type of food you eat, the clothes you buy, the house you live in, whatever you do. There are going to be some people that agree with it and some people that disagree with it. God bless America. That's what it's all about.
You can agree or disagree, whatever. Just like we talked about in the last segment, we're having a day at the shooting range.
There are some people on our page that strongly disagree with that some people that strongly agree with it you know what the cool thing about the lifestyle is differences differences of opinion it's okay right in terms of you know when it comes to like marriage and this is this is where i where i go to because i just recently heard that so i was talking to somebody who's interested in being advertised on our show they're not a swinger uh their issue with the lifestyle is that it goes against that what their opinion of marriage is okay i understand whatever works i would after 27 years put our marriage up against any marriage out there Lifestyle or non-lifestyle, right?
Because we communicate, we get get along we solve problems we work together on things we have a mutual respect blah all those things that make a marriage work well here's the deal this is the same it's the same type of deal with this if you have if the morality issue of it comes in and i totally respect some people it does some people can't get over that then you know what the lifestyle is probably not for you probably not because here's the deal this is supposed to be fun remember the salad and the dressing okay okay it's an enhancer okay you're not going to drink a bowl of salad dressing you're going to have salad and put a little on it to enhance it okay if your enhancer like if you're allergic to ranch and every time you ranch it makes you nauseous and throw up and sick then i would find a different enhancer quit putting ranch on the salad so if swinging really upsets you and really creates this huge turmoil for you about spirituality where you stand god your religion whatever your religion is whatever high being however you feel then you know what choose a different enhancement don't do it right that's the simplest thing don't do it definitely don't if you can't separate those views like outside of the lifestyle versus when you're in it don't you don't need to come in and be the one to save everybody in the lifestyle okay you need to make the decision it's not for you and move on if you can excellent then continue to use ranch out ranch dressing on your salad continue to have it as an enhancer look there is no dressing on your salad.
Continue to have it as an enhancer. Look, there is no stamp on your forehead that says swinger unless you stamp it there yourself, okay? So you can actually go to a party. We've done this. Go to a party. Fuck other people. Have a great time. I got really drunk. I don't think you were as drunk. And the next day, still go to a family function just fine, other than a pounding headache, right? Not on my end. Not on my end, okay? And no one knew. Not a single person knew. And it involved church. And not a single person knew.
At no point start, did we start to smoke or steam or anything when we walked in the church, the bright light didn't hurt us, nothing, but we're okay with that. Okay. So that's the biggest thing is you have to be okay with it. This is not going to be a thing of, of how religious, you know, the, the flaws in religion, Because obviously, every religion has their good points. Every religion has their not-so-good points, whatever the case may be. You have to take it for whatever it is. But it still comes down to being a personal choice. You're just like, mm-hmm.
That's because you've blown, you've gotten a blowjob to a deacon of a church. Yeah. The band saw it. The band got to watch it. Oh, that's right. So, I mean, really, it doesn't have to be a big thing. I think people have to understand, swinging and a lifestyle is never going to be mainstream. No. Right? So at no point in time is the mass population going to embrace swinging and how to do it.
never going to be mainstream no right so at no point in time is the the mass population going to embrace swinging and having sex with other people like they embrace religion it that's never going to happen so i wouldn't necessarily go to church and go you know when they say stand up and greet the people next to you and go hey guess what i did smell my finger because it smells like your wife no i'm just saying i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily do that was horrible was it better or worse than the salad dressing it was worse than the salad dressing well i'm just saying but i wouldn't necessarily do that i mean maybe if you're wearing kind of like clothes at a little review maybe you change before church i get it but you know i wouldn't do that but you can have both things.
Let me ask you this. Do you ever go to work and act differently at your job than you do when you're at home? Not talking to swing, just when you're at home. People do that all the time, right? I act how I act. Why? I don't act different. You do. No, you don't.
I't i do well because i was in sales so you know that the the face of what i had to be at my job was different than being at home and and whatever it's the same type of thing you know i think the biggest thing is you just have to be you have to be comfortable yourself with it and you can't be a fucking moron and be like you know at the coffee hour afterwards be like oh hey i saw you at the hotel takeover you know i mean can't be a tool but that that's the the biggest thing you can't keep them separate yes you really can there's actually a couple and i do not i i didn't because we were on the road, I didn't get to do the research.
But there's big articles about them that they are ministers, and actually, through their ministry, that's how they hook up.
They directly talk to other swingers and have like a Bible study session, and they have a Bible group, and they're swingers and you know i'm an ordained officiant you know i go and perform marriages people all the time and then we like to go to swinger events afterwards we haven't done that for a while not a while but i mean we've had we we've i've married couples that we've hooked up with before and you know what i had no problem reading the vows about forsaking all others it was a little funny i mean i'm not when you've seen the when you've watched the groom fuck your wife and you fuck the bride it is a little bit funny when you go you know forsaking all theirs but i already had you but i mean that you know we all we all it's just normal it's not that big we've been to lots of other Swinger couples' weddings and stuff.
It's really not that big a deal. I think people panic too much about that. It's that not understanding that no one has to know if you don't let them. No. You know, now I, you know, if you're new, I wouldn't be the first one to do the Swinger Bible study. I had one a little more experience before I went down that path.
And the other is this is like anything else you have to learn as you're new when you see people out in public this is a challenge we have even like with kink right now as we're learning more about the kinksters is that you have to be able to see something or see someone that you saw at the party last weekend getting gang banged and see them in the grocery store and not be like, oh, and your face just be like, you know, all like fucking weirded out. Never done that. Well, no, we've run into people. We've run into people. Hey, how are you? Act natural.
You know, we did the secret handshake and the little secret dance. It was a little awkward the very first time. Because you don't know how that's going to go. Well, and you don't. And you're like, they're going to see my family and stuff. We have, no, this just made me think of something. We have some people that were on our page, one time on our page, whatever, where one person was a teacher and had their students. So there was a parent-teacher conference that involved. Now, they had never hooked up or anything, but they both knew the other ones were in the lifestyle.
And they said that that was really awkward the first time the first time is once you realize everybody's you know human human look it's funny as shit when you see people run into it's more funny when you see it happen to other people than you but when the boss boss oh fuck yeah came in to work the next monday hey hey how's it going that was my birthday weekend. Yeah, and his girlfriend was pulling down my shirt and stuff. It was quite entertaining, to say the least. She was rubbing her boobs in your face. But when he first got there, when they first got there, I was already drunk.
I didn't really like the guy.
I was already drunk, and I said, hey i said hey watch this by the way if you ever get a chance to go party with us if you want to know when something really stupid and entertaining is going to happen as soon as cole says hey watch this then something dumb is going to happen and i walked right over bought a shot two shots whatever walked right over to him and as i'm walking to you can see the color drain out of his fake tan face and I see the color and I'm like hey shot two shots whatever walked right over to him and as i'm walking to you can see the color drain out of his fake fake tan face and you see the color and i'm like hey i was gonna i can't say his name but hey let's do a shot and he's like no no i'm like come on and he gave it to his girlfriend and before it was over then yeah she was giving me a lap dance for my birthday and stuff and i went up to him and touched him on the shoulder, and I said, you know what happens here stays here, right?
And he goes, mm-hmm. But he still didn't know what to do on Monday when he walked past it. No, he was terrified. Hey, but the funny thing is, is all the salespeople go, oh, here he is with his swinger friends, and I just kind of went. If you only fucking knew. Where? Shit, our enemy's friend's hot. I'm like, well, obviously everybody else knows. Well, we ran into him at two different times. We ran into him. Yeah. He loosened up after that. It is funny to watch the first time somebody else has that happen to them at Crazy Winter Nights this year. We had somebody they worked with.
All of a sudden, they're both coming in at the exact same time. And it was like, I don't know. at crazy winter nights this year we we had uh somebody that somebody they worked with all of a sudden they're both coming in at the exact same time and it was like uh and and but you know what as they both but you did it the first time the very first party we went to we're like the wall but you know we're hugging the wall because we didn't know anybody we didn't know shit and you go oh my god there's so i work with him i'm like Thank you.
the wall but you know we're hugging the wall because we didn't know anybody we didn't know shit and you go oh my god there's so and so i work with him i'm like which one yes but in all fairness that was the one we sat in the parking lot decided because we didn't know what a meet and greet was so we didn't know does this turn into an orgy at a public bar yeah stupid it does dumbasses we were dumb we didn't know we didn't know and we and and i didn't know to dress skanky because i didn't no no and we i was covered all the way up yeah we just we had a big old sign that just said fuck us no not not really no we had no clue we were got her dumb and yes that was the very first lifestyle thing we'd ever really went to and it was like oh fuck my life.
Yeah, and he bought us drinks Hey Cole how's it going He was talking about how much he'd like to fuck my wife Well hey well there you go No that's not what he said He just kind of went This is your wife I'd fuck her Would you get used to those types of conversations As it goes along Sweet Yeah cracker joke Is that with a bag over my head We had haters this week We had haters this week It's all cracking jokes So it is Look remember If you're there And they're there This is like fucking fast times If I'm here and you're here Isn't that like our time it's the same thing look they didn't happen to magically get there way to make yourself look old spicoli fuck yeah i don't care that's a good movie so i'm that you know they're there for the same reason you are so it's kind of like yeah they could out you but you could out them and once everybody gets past the initial awkwardness, and you watch it, it's so funny, because they talk, and then they each scurry in a separate direction.
Oh, fuck. And then they realize, oh, wait, it's not that big a deal. Yeah. And that's all good. Because you're just like, oh, he's here. And I'm like, he's here. And you're here. Isn't it like our time, Mr. Hand? Really nothing's going to happen. You hold a secret of his, and he holds a secret of yours. But I knew that he didn't give his fuck as much. I still gave a fuck at my job at that point. Luckily, we got over that. Shwoo. They were fun to party with. Yeah. We hung out with him a lot after that. Well, it's kind of nice knowing some other people like that.
And I'm at work and people go, how do you know him? Oh, well. Well, he used to work here. Duh. What do you want to know about him? We've run into a bar and we've kind of hung out. That's the standard answer. Met a bar. Met a bar. Friend of a friend at a bar. I don't do friend of a friend. That's smart, because then I go, what friend? I do. Oh, we used to go to this one bar all the time, and they used to also, so we just kind of got to know each other that way. See, it pays if they think you're a lush. Oh, well, it's cool, Amanda. They probably were at a bar. Who knows? Probably.
Look, you only care about that shit when you're going through the list, like on Facebook or whatever, and it's like, you see like 10 friends that are swingers, you're like, mmm, you want to ask. The only coworker that found out the way he shouldn't have is when we're at a bar with several swingers, and we invite whoever wants to come, come on, I mean, we know how to party with vanillas, except there was a vanilla girl that used to hang out with the band and knew that we were swingers and goes, oh, are you a swinger too? Yeah, oh my God, it was my boss. Ah, fuck.
We were going outside to have a cigarette. We were going to have a cigarette and he just walked up just right in the middle of our conversation because she was kind of saying, oh, so you're a swinger too I'm not And I'm just like Smoking my cigarette I go, well Hey, guess what We're swingers He just starts laughing I'm like, no, he's not He's my boss And like wandered off But I mean, he stayed the rest of the night And had and fucking. No, but he didn't want to hear stories because he couldn't look at me the same way. No, he couldn't. No, it was funny. He didn't know.
He didn't want to hear stories about us. He wanted to hear stories. Like most vanillas that find out, they want to hear stories. They have a million and one questions. But you were the receptionist at the time. And he had to come to you to have things done.
And he was just like, nope, nope but he stayed that night and got really drunk bought us all a bunch of shots and stuff it was a good time and the and i'm sorry or the one co-worker that um i don't think you were working there anymore at the time thank god um i recognized who he was i didn't necessarily recognize didn't know what he looked like I think on one website he might have sent like one face picture I know what his dick looked like though Weird And we were cracking jokes about there being money on the floor And I said there's a bunch of glitter I said what were you at a strip club And he just looked at me and he goes Well you know maybe they came in here And I said something along the lines of, well, I'm, I'm sure you've swung around a, a swinger pulled once or twice.
Like I have, you know, at the dream, you know, and I named a bar and he just turned pale and looked at me and I said, huh. And turned around and walked out. And then he was just like, oh shit. I'm like, well, dude,. It's all, it's, yeah. Yeah. The thing is, it's not that big a deal. And then it was, like I say that in front of people. And then we joked around about it for a while and cracked jokes, and then that was it. Yeah. It's really not that big a deal. Just don't make it a bigger deal than it needs to be. No. It's not. If they're there. Now, there's some bars that you have to be careful.
But if it's a mix, you've got to keep your wits about you. Don't pull the call. We've told that story. Cole getting drunk and showing pictures. Hey, want to see pictures? Guess what we do? Not a goddamn thing, dumbass. He's done that to several coworkers. Poor things. That's why I'm not allowed to work anymore. It is what it is. I think you only did it to one. I did, but yeah. But she did another one that happens to be a swinger. No. She didn't know that she was a swinger, but no. I've got a fine package, according to her. That's because you showed her a really crappy picture.
I'm just like, you know what? It pays to have somebody advertising for you that they don't even know they're advertising I don't even know they're advertising for you. That's awesome. Can we get those? People that go in ahead of time and just talk us up. Paid actors. We have a crew of extras that follow us around and say nice things about us. To neutralize all the people that talk about it. No shit. To hear about all the people that hate our fucking guts. It'd be kind of fun.
don't know we do want people's letters I don't know how much time do we have through three minutes four six twelve whatever whatever want to do hey but we do I do want letters I want to hear hear other people's stories about like, not necessarily, you know, this bad thing your life was ruined, but, you know, there's a lot of people who have stories about that. Somebody maybe, send us your stories about it, about somebody that found out of your work or whatever. We want to hear about it because here's the deal.
Sharing those types of stories make other new people understand or when it happens to somebody for the first time because it's going to happen to everybody once the thing you don't feel like your life is actually over it's not that big a deal and a lot of them are kind of funny yeah so you know send them in send them to crazy casbah crazy.casbah at gmail.com email them to email them to us something to laugh about yeah and we'll take your names out you don't share your names or anything we'll just make it so it's fun and and uh enjoyable because it is kind of funny you know and some point in time we'll retell the stories the kids funner because you know Thank you.
And we'll take your names out, you know, share your names or anything. We'll just make it so it's fun and enjoyable because it is kind of funny, you know, and some point in time we'll retell the stories of kids funner because, you know, like our kids know and shit like that. So all that kind of stuff. All right. With that being said, it's pretty good. Remember, OK, so don't forget. Now we are going to be doing this show come out on Thursday. Make sure you tune in to all the regular places that you listen to podcasts. Give us thumbs up. Give us comments if you like.
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