Krazy Truth #54 Damn Picture collectors

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Make sure book your reservation this summer and don't forget crazy summer nights will be there in august so we can't wait to see you there fishing hey you crazy motherfuckers welcome back to another edition of crazy truth i am your host with the most i am cole and i'm here with the lovely lovely miss amanda who's not wearing a bra hey i do know because i just flicked her nipple uh obviously recorded on a special night i know that those of that will hear the release of this coming thursday don't realize that but this is we're actually recording memorial day uh so in lieu of a funny sex story we would like to take this opportunity to salute uh all of our veterans that are paid the ultimate sacrifice for us to be able to do a show like this with adult content and say the things we do the way we do. Obviously, that's not a joking matter. Remember, again, educational purpose. Remember, Memorial Day is to salute those that gave the ultimate sacrifice. Veterans Day is to salute all the folks that have served. So, again, to all the folks, families that were left behind, thank you very much. We appreciate our freedoms. Okay, so. It's kind of weird doing something serious around the mat. Okay. All right, so now back to form. So, you know what we do here. For those that are new to the Crazy Truth podcast, we answer questions and we offend people. And we give our opinion. And we give our opinion, which, surprisingly enough, offends people. And that's what we like to do. Not everybody. Not everybody. No, we actually got quite a few, some great tweets this week from people saying new listeners love our podcast, love the show. So that's awesome. We've got a couple emails from some folks all over the country excited about found us and we're all excited to tune into our whole library of shows. And so that was really exciting. So a lot of like pump me up, feel good stuff. So people want to hear us to continue to spew our knowledge. 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He's been partying here all weekend. I guess. All right. All right. So our first question comes to us from Sin City. That's right. Las Vegas. Viva. Okay. Anyways. So it comes to us, sin city that's right las vegas okay anyways so uh it comes to us and the uh person's name is shelly says she's like oh exactly she has one oh it's a pineapple way uh is actually terrell sent us a a question from las vegas and i thought this was interesting for a couple reasons why and i'll tell you in just a second after i tell you what the question is so terrell's question was how do you deal with people that are just picture collectors or picture hunters how do you how do you deal or know if if they're just picture collectors and and what our opinion of picture people are and okay so before i answer that the reason i thought this was interesting here's the thing is this is not most of the time when when this type of question comes up it's usually a female that brings it up or if it's a male it's usually a couple because their wife is getting bombarded with picture requests okay now here's the thing terrell is a single male okay all right so and because i got home i got the question and i asked him because i figured i was waiting to hear a couple things because no i'm a single male and does he collect pictures no he does not collect pictures but here's the thing uh he is a professional dancer okay so and i said really and so he sent me a picture this dude is fucking ripped i get okay i get why chicks want to collect his picture and why they don't want to collect my picture okay okay you know he's he's got like that v thing going and and like all the the abs and all that kind of stuff so i thought that was really interesting so this is not something that i would have thought was just a female concern and and one of the things is he gets that a lot he he gets okay that a lot and the other part of it he is that he's also an african-American male. So he gets it kind of from both angles. He gets people that are trying to use him as a bucket list item and picture collectors. And I was like, okay. So I said, he goes, are you willing to talk about this on the show? And I'm like, absolutely, we're willing to talk about this. Okay. Okay. So first and foremost, because those who don't know we obviously run the giant giant secret secret crazy casbah facebook page and four others uh so we deal with this kind of stuff a lot okay number one there is no way to totally eliminate picture hunters be very very quiet we are hunting pictures so there's no way to there's no way to totally avoid at least sending maybe a couple because you don't always i mean every now and then you'll have somebody that flat out says hey we're just trying to get pictures but let's face it that's fucking rare yeah when someone will actually be honest and say they're just collecting pictures usually they're trying to bullshit people they're trying to act like they're interested they're trying to whatever the case what they do with these pictures well and and that's one of the problems is number one okay so we we all take and put pictures out there on our profiles on websites we put them out there on social media we put them out there right because let's face it our pictures are like bait right they're like worms in the ocean dangle and anyways so we wouldn't out there we're trying to get interest well then when we get interest when people just want more and more then then that's when we become alarmed about it which is really which is really funny because what do people do with pictures i mean let's face it there's a lot of really bad shit that they can do with pictures and there are some that will use them and create porn sites and put them on porn sites and there are people that will you know a lot of people just collect them to collect them for their own spank bank yeah you know but it's it's going to happen but there's a couple telltale signs i think you can look for you better get this more than me i i look if anybody would like to be a picture collector of me i'm gonna put this out here right fucking now please let me know i will send you pictures all over the place you want to you want to see me like doing dishes naked and that's hot for you? I'm in. There you go. I'm the only person in the swinger lifestyle asking for people to collect my pictures. There's got to be some women out there that are kind of into, you know, Chevy Chasers that are into me, being a guy like me. Ooh, look at that belly hangover. Damn, sexy hey my day's long enough that i do get to see it not all of it but i do get to see it enough of to know it's still there when my little buddy wants to come out and play oh there he is boy anyways if you get a good side view you can see it anyway so so okay telltale signs of picture collectors though first and Anyways, if you get a good side view, you can see it. Anyway, so... So, okay. Telltale signs of picture collectors, though. First and foremost, you start to have a communication, and all they keep asking for is more pictures. And usually, they just want dirtier pictures. Nothing will piss off a picture collector more than when you continue to send them pictures with clothes on. So, if you want to have fun with some douchebag that's collecting pictures can you show a little more like if you have a shirt you know you have show a little cleavage then take just like one button and just send it so it shows like half an inch more cut your face off it and just bomb them with these fucking pictures that they can't use no no if if somebody asked for a picture usually i've probably already sent them one it depends it depends on if i know them if i know them then it's no big deal if you're a picture collector and you're trying to collect pictures from people you know you're a fucking moron but then there's there's been some people that have i've sent a picture to either wish them a happy birthday and if they ask for more i won't send it right right which is i mean you get one you get one right exactly so when you have people that all they want they keep hounding every time they want a picture and they won't send one back that's another good way uh or or the picture they send back when you look at their profile or whatever just doesn't seem to add up quite right you know that's a really that's a really good dead giveaway i mean here's the thing picture collectors why are they out there they're out there because well they have no self-esteem that's a general rule i have one guy send me a picture he was fully clothed but he had his hand on a heart on okay and he goes, do you have a picture for me? I said, no. I don't have a hard-on, so no. Well, the thing is, I said, I put more than that on social media. Well, I show more skin on social media. No. I don't have time to go home and put more clothes on to send it to you. But if you'd like one in my winter coat, let me know. no i'm not gonna send you another one yeah and and what happens once you tell them no then they they tend to like you'll know if they're real or yeah they tend they tend to go away really quick okay but i truly really people do it because look there's a lot of people that now with social media it's safety they can be they can be perverts behind the you know power of the keyboard type thing keyboard warriors so they have no self-esteem right okay but here's the thing this is the catch-22 of the whole concept with social media even like our own pages is that let's face it why when there's a meme that says hey you know show know, show us your, what's your best attribute, your ass, your boobs, or your cooter, and man, you'll have fucking 300 chicks just be like, and lay out pictures out there. Why are they putting them out there? They're putting them out there because, let's face it, it makes you feel good when you have a whole bunch of people take and like the pictures, right? So here's the thing. The challenge is picture collectors know that they've like, they've broken the code, right? So have a little bit of chat and keep, keep somebody going along and they'll send more and more news because they're getting as much of a rush off of sending them until all of a sudden they realize what's going on. Even guys, as a guy, you know what? Anytime when it's a birthday and a girl will go, hey, you know, we want dick pics, okay? And you send a dick pic and you get like a heart back or, you know, a fake mmm. Or as we talked about other other shows whatever whatever you know that now if they do the gag emoticon that means they really want it but they're just saying so you're like wow that makes you feel good right or if you put a picture on on one of the memes online and you actually get some girls to like it you're like well fuck yeah you feel like you're the shit yeah you know i i got all seven girls and they all want to fuck me no they don't but that's okay we don't care so the thing is is i get it you know but they're praying on people to to do the pictures constantly here's another good way look now on the social media it's a little bit hard because like our page we have people we have almost 3 000 members on one of our pages and we've got people from literally coast to coast right so you may have people that you're never going to meet right right but if you have somebody from your local area that's hounding you for pictures think about this have you ever seen them at any meet and greet at at the club, at the bar, have you seen them at any event? If you've never ever met them at any meet and greet at at the club at the bar have you seen them at any event if you've never ever met them at any event and they're local start asking some questions i mean seriously start going saying not until we meet yeah once we meet make sure make sure they're real you know i mean there's nothing wrong with that remember you're i think i people get sucked into this. New people fall into this that they think if they don't respond and they don't chat and they don't whatever, that then it's going to get around that they're prude. And that's not the case. I don't know if most people that collect them do anything with them. Spank banks. Yeah, I don you know so am i afraid of it no but if i but they're stupid they should be like collecting videos not acting overly hungry no look i'm thirsty glick look here's the thing now if you tell me you're gonna put in your spank bank i might send you a good one well here's the thing if you're doing it for your spank bank hey picture collector people let me help you out with it this is a way better option to go with instead of instead of asking for a still photo okay because let's face it we all we're all adults we all look at porn okay why is porn hub more popular than a porn magazine because a porn magazine you flip the page there's the picture it stays the same it doesn't do anything your imagination has to work as hard as your hand right okay so but if you go to porn hub and you go to a video your imagination doesn't have to work because look they're fucking they're moving it's like anime or animation they're moving so if you're trying to just collect pictures be smart ask for a video because here's the deal you send me you send me hot pictures all the time right and you know if i'm wondering i can get off film but i get it off way more if i look back when one of the videos we made i mean one of the videos we made yeah i'm like yeah i'm there i'm right back to that moment in time boy so i mean I don't know why there aren't more video collectors.
Speaker2: I would tell.
Speaker3: I don't know if people are...
Speaker1: Hey, great news. Now there will be. That'll be awesome. Guess what's on next week's podcast?
Speaker3: I don't know if people are as willing to send videos as they are pictures.
Speaker1: No, but see, that's what's really funny. They won't send videos because they're afraid they're going to end up on Pornhub, right? And they're not getting paid for it. I've never had anybody ask for one. No. Think back. Think way, way back. Way beyond yonder. When we first got into it, we didn't understand all of the technology. Hey, Clark. We didn't understand all the technology because remember, and here's a word of warning. When you Skypepe with someone are you facetime with someone and they can record it they can actually record that shit yeah and remember remember the dude from australia yeah yep he constantly wanted to take in and and watch you jack off and then we realized what the hell can go on. It's like, oh, wait a minute. Oh, hell no. So that's something you've got to be conscious of, is that remember, oh, it's just FaceTime. Yeah, remember that, because the next time you're on Pornhub three days later, you're going to see Joe Bob getting paid the $38,000 you didn't get to take and fucking watch you get fucked on there. Huh? Yeah, it's illegal to post that. And you can have it taken down, but here's the deal. That's if you find it. That's if you find it. Think about all the other fucking places that you can, uh, all the places you can post it. Yeah, but usually you have to have permission to have their... Oh, like people don't fucking lie in the lifestyle well no everybody's just perfectly honest when you sign up for porn hub you have to have a picture of your driver's license picture of you with a sign saying porn hub that's because you don't have a production company oh yeah i just i look but you still have to have model consent if there's if look you're not supposed to rob a bank either but if there's a will there's a way people do stupid shit all the time right so you just there's a degree of this like remember it's your body take charge of it a little bit you know yeah you have to take and think things through true okay so one of so one of the other things I want to hit on with picture collectors, because, okay, it's a huge deal now, right? Revenge porn. Yes. Okay, now let's face it. One of the things that's really hot to do in the lifestyle, we've done it, is that, you know, you're fucking another couple or whatever the case may be, whatever the event is, you get permission and you videotape it. Okay. We've got some killer videos. Oh, the only way we're going to use them for is to look back and relive the moment. Right. It's like a Kodak thing. Okay. But think about this for just a minute. The sound guy looked at it like, what? Okay. We're going to relive it to Jack. I'll hear a couple. I'm out here a couple anyways the thing is is that uh you also see couples that in life so start to get pretty exclusive whatever uh remember every time you make videos and stuff like that and those go out places you don't have control of them anymore so you you know you want to make sure like number one uh if you're somewhere and somebody starts filming they need to have your permission okay that's like a really big thing if you want to film you need to have their permission you need to have their permission like what you want to film if you want to film it includes their face or not their face or whatever you want to make sure that you have you know permission on what what the hell is going on because that's again once it's filmed once that person walks out the door where it goes from there who knows uh and probably nothing bad will happen but there's nothing no shittier way to find out than like to go to work and have your boss pull up you know six dicks like a boss. That probably isn't, you know. Did you enjoy it? How did you find this? Did you enjoy it? No, no. What site did you get on? Did you have to pay? Can I use your membership card? That'd be awesome. So, I mean, those are just little things. But is there any way to totally eliminate it? No. There's really no way to know for sure that somebody is a picture collector until you've talked to him a little bit i do not advise you can jump in on this advise going out like blast and so and so supposedly it's just a picture collector because you really don't know for sure no just because they ask you for a picture or even multiple pictures doesn't mean right maybe they're just infatuated with you right which is much better because that leads us to our topic next week stalking but i mean well seriously i mean you don't know for sure so you can't you don't want to go out and start bashing somebody because like we say all the time the lifestyle is how you choose to live it it's your own personal it's your own personal way so maybe you like more pictures whatever but there is no way to completely avoid it i mean i don't think you have to be paranoid anytime somebody asks for a picture the motherfucker picture collector we've known people to do that well i or to accuse that oh yeah we've known people to accuse that i think there's people out there that some people they're so intimidated to actually talk to them like in person you know that whole thing of well that's they're probably out of my league whatever the case may be that if they can get pictures it's like as close as i feel like they can actually ever get to i'll agree that to talking to people and it's like look if you have courage online to ask somebody for a picture go ahead and do something crazy crazy nutty and talk to them live in person too. I mean, it's okay. It'll work out. It's smooth as silk. Because if they're willing to send you like multiple pictures like that, they might actually be interested. Exactly. But they're at least interested in maybe having a conversation with you. So, I mean, you know, this is not rocket science. It not supposed to be but you know imagine that it usually is just i don't want pictures by the way send us pictures and use your picture to say this is my girlfriend or yeah exactly i had one guy one time go hey can i use your picture as a screensaver? And it wasn't me. If you want. Hey, I know that vagina. I know, wait, oh, hey. I think that freaking mosquito bit me. See, you pointed out. I've used your picture as a screensaver. Yeah, I know. Well, I've used a dirty picture as like the second level there you go as a screensaver that was awesome okay people always wanted to see my phone I never figured out can I borrow your phone you have a cell phone oh yours is better okay oh yeah now I get it you're such a liar no the only thing I've done on the phone is embarrass the phone guy when I had to change over phones remember that yes I remember that he goes well let's make sure all the apps work. And I'm like, okay. And all of a sudden, he's got it. And I see his finger. It's like slow motion. No. Had it right for the fucking photo gallery. I'm like, I'm sure that works. Oh, too late. And he goes, ooh, sorry. Yeah, that was the one where you were standing there with me with the first picture of you naked. The time what happened when I had to fix my phone and the guy was like and he tried to like scroll right to like get to a different picture but sorry you were in the porn section of Cole's phone and then he's just like yeah I think that works he goes you have a very lovely wife why thank you yes I do I do have a very lovely wife I Why, thank you. Yes, I do. I do have a very lovely wife. Would you like her to come in? If you scroll further, you can see maybe a girlfriend, too. Who knows what you'll see. Just keep scrolling. No. But to watch a college kid just turn beet fucking red. Just like, like, you don't have him on your phone, dude. I mean well maybe i know he probably shouldn't have you on his phone maybe but i mean no we could compare maybe it's somebody that we know hey we fucked the same person rock on high five good grief can you imagine a college kid bang the same person they had they'd be like uh yeah by the way they also have issues just so you know, keep their name and number because in about 20 years they're going to fucking in. Just saying. That's bad. What? Why? You're picking on the poor kid. No, I'm trying to help educate. If they scroll further, they'll learn things like 40s aren't old, 40s are still flexible a woman can do that with a dick yes that is legal oh my god it's gonna help them i'm just trying to teach the younger generation how to be more in tune with their future lovers their future lovers that's all look junior you don't just have to bang your missionary. Go over, grab a leg, slap an ass.
Speaker3: I have a feeling those kids are probably way more adventurous than you think.
Speaker1: They might be adventurous. It doesn't mean they're any good at it.
Speaker3: That's true.
Speaker1: Just because they're adventurous doesn't mean that they're good. I mean, think about always the first time we tried shit.
Speaker2: We could have.
Speaker1: We could have.
Speaker2: No.
Speaker1: When we got unplanned Jane. We could have pulled something we got to hurt something we could have it can happen well of course it can happen years of experience just not being the first time you try to put someone in a yoga position and hang them upside down by a ceiling fan and it's not gonna be a disaster something i still want to do that by the way i'm not hanging from a ceiling fan, then it's not going to be a disaster or something. I still want to do that, by the way.
Speaker4: I'm not hanging from a ceiling fan.
Speaker2: Well, I don't think it can hold me.
Speaker1: Well, it doesn't have to be a ceiling fan. It just needs someone that can spin.
Speaker3: What, like a disco ball?
Speaker2: Well,
Speaker1: as long as it can raise and lower and spin. Then not spin fast. We don't have to have high, medium, and low. We can just have low speed, just so slow spin.
Speaker2: Thank you. As long as you can raise and lower and spin. Then that's spin fast. We don't have to have high, medium, and low. We can just have low speed.
Speaker4: Just so slow spin.
Speaker2: Okay. I would love for you to tell me,
Speaker1: Cole, I think I'd like to start taking gymnastics.
Speaker4: I'd be like, well, I think that's an excellent idea. Good grief.
Speaker2: Don't you have anything like that?
Speaker4: That'd be fun as hell.
Speaker2: At my age, I am not limber enough. Well, that's just it. We got to get youber but then you can we can raise and lower it speed it up lots of lube then it'd be like one of those laser things yeah i keep squirting lube on my dick or it'll catch on fire you mean you'd be spinning too no no i'd be throwing up sitting on top of you yeah got it i wasn't i suppose it maybe it'd be easier to do the other way maybe it'd be easier to put the whole bed on a pedestal and the bed could spin slowly and you could just hold on to a bar and hold up my legs are you kidding that would be just well if you're holding up to like a trapeze bar, we could kind of build. Well, if there's too much stuff around it, then it ruins the effect. Then we could just use the sex one. Well, that would be like, okay. Look, I'm trying to be creative. It's all for art. It's for art, because we want pictures, and we want them to be artistic. Sure, we'll run with it. God, we're vanilla.
Speaker1: We're lame.
Speaker2: Jeez.
Speaker1: Get into the thought of something like that?
Speaker2: No.
Speaker1: Isn't there some weird position you'd like me to do like that?
Speaker2: No.
Speaker1: Scuba diving or something?
Speaker2: Like,
Speaker1: plunging in or leaping in or something?
Speaker2: I don't know. No. Okay.
Speaker1: Hopefully we answered that question. I don't remember what the fucking question was. Now, it was don't do it do whatever we just said and go with go with whatever we just said that was the correct answer all the way i don't know picture collectors picture collectors do what you want do it yeah do take your own caution take your own caution oh pictures with caution tape that's what you need to do Is you need to have A set bunch of pictures That are just really Fucked up When you figure out It's a picture collector Start sending them those
Speaker3: There you go
Speaker1: That's where you have The one that's like
Speaker2: You know
Speaker3: With a knife With blood on it
Speaker1: Yeah Oops sorry Sent the wrong one Or something like
Speaker3: Don't buy the cereal
Speaker2: Kill it
Speaker1: Go buy No this is what you do Go buy Like to a market And buy squid Like a squid I don't mind a cereal killer go buy no this way go buy uh like to a market by squid like a squid and stick that in the cooter so that i got all the arms coming out of the cooters okay if you wanted one more i haven't shaved yet and send them something like that that'd be funny as shit huh okay yeah that would be okay. Am I sticking to fish? No, I don't know. Well, you don't want to clean up afterwards. I don't know. Okay. Let's take a break, shall we? We shall. Would you like to learn more about the staff at Crazy Truth? Would you like an opportunity to find out where we're doing, what we're doing, and the events, where we're going? Would you like some Crazy Truth merch? You know what? Visit us at www.crazykazba.com. Sign up for our newsletter today. Can't wait until we see you there. Okay, we're back.
Speaker3: I freaking love it.
Speaker1: It makes me laugh. No, we try. We aim to please. Because you just switch it. Just. Hey, look, man. That's what we do. That wasn't me. That's our professional voice guy that does that. Is it? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So our next question comes to us from Portland, Oregon. Oregonregon and it's anonymous so sorry it is what it is okay so the question they had was and this is a couple i did find that out this is a couple a couple okay okay why is there so much pressure to play when you go out is it okay not to play even if was even if it was scheduled as a play date originally and i was like okay that's well that that intrigued me okay that intrigued me a lot because here's the thing you're gonna get all kinds of different answers on that okay well i mean think about it yeah you would i see because some people are gonna be like what the fuck you know so my first thing that i reached out to anonymous was to find out if they were new or how long they'd been in a lifestyle because i'm going that sounds like a pretty newbie question that was my first thought well they've been in lifestyle about a year they're actually making the transition from soft swap to full swap and all of the ramifications that go with it. But one of the challenges that they're trying to do here, they're trying to make too many changes at once, in my opinion. Okay. They're trying to go soft swap to full swap and include separate room play and possibly individual play, along play. So, number one, there's a whole lot of shit going on in that whole thing. Okay, that's... Ish, yeah. Well, that's... You don't know if they soft swap in separate rooms. No, I do not. Or alone. They didn't tell me that. They didn't tell didn't tell me that i but still there's a huge difference going from soft swap to full swap in general there's a difference well of course there's a difference who sticks stuff where but i mean so there's a lot of other issues tying in with that the whole way across in my opinion at least it's like okay so the thing is is that so i'm i was like okay so they've been doing this about a year so they're making this transition and i'm trying to kind of figure out what what exactly they mean which i never really got a really clear answer on this okay okay so i don't know if they're talking completely about like you you've met somebody you were going to meet for drinks and then there's pressure to feel like you have to take that on into the bedroom or if it was actually for sure set up as hey we're going to this hotel to or what? Because, I mean, that kind of makes a difference in how you answer this question. And how you answer it. But really, if you don't feel comfortable in any situation, you say no. Well, exactly. You know, if you can set it up as a play date, meet at a hotel, and you just are totally turned off and it's not going to happen. can bow out and say you know it's not going to happen this time right well or maybe they feel like they can't agree to hook up because they feel pressure from all the other fucking rules they're trying to do well it isn't even necessarily that if you have people that go okay we want to meet you know let's let's meet up well if they're under a pressure that it's that it's supposed to be right a play date a play date that they don't know how to bow out or bow because they're a dog okay so i got to thinking well have we i don't think we've ever really set up a play date with a couple we haven't met no at all in all the years we've done this we've never done that we've met with somebody and if it we hit it off it turned into a play right but it was but it was never set up as we're gonna go play let's go right yeah we've never met anybody at a hotel that we you know the first time we meet them is when we knock on the hotel room door let's go fuck we've never done that it's all the very first couple could no because we met them and we talked for 17 hours with them and then then we were trying to keep up but again there was remember there was no it wasn't there was no pressure there was there was no guarantee well there was pressure to play we just didn't realize it but there was there was no guarantees of playing so i guess the first part i go okay that's pretty ballsy to just be like hey i don't know you let's go what about the second couple well we it was the two couples okay we never met them but they saw us cam yeah and we met them at a hotel room well okay yeah but see that we didn't actually set that up that way that just kind of happened because we the one couple we had set up to a couple we hadn't met them before had we no okay so we did do it and then we because we're like it's at them instead of having one couple we had our first soiree so there's three of us three couples there that's right okay so we have done it well never mind now fuck the show's over gotta go no so i mean we have but we really we were so new we were so new and we got lucky and everything worked it was just fun. We didn't know what the fuck we were looking for.
Speaker2: No.
Speaker1: At that point in time, you could have walked in with, you know, I don't know. It wouldn't matter what you walked in with. As long as we didn't think we were going to die, we would have done it. Well, I mean, seriously. You know, at that point in time, it was like, well, we're fucking here, so, you know, full steam ahead. Because we didn't know any better at that point in time would i would i do it now no i would because we've never played alone with anybody that we've never at least met before no we've never done that and i wouldn't and so i mean okay setting something up to go play when you don't know them you're running the risk of it's it's not the chemistry is not going to be there so at that point in time no there should be no pressure because the the reality of it is you do have the right all the time to always fucking take and and uh uh leave you know so well i'm watching comments too to see what we have for comments so you just gotta jump in you see a good comment. Well, Dan says the couple that you're meeting with should be aware of your rules and that you are currently opening your rules up. Make it clear that you are making baby steps and it may not happen. And again, that's baby steps, not babies. That gives both parties an out. That's very true. That's a great point. Dan's commenting off of our world famous Crazy Casper page that's exactly right ahead of time look you're fucking insane if you exchange one email of like hey I like your pictures you want to fuck and you go yeah we want you to meet and that's all you've done that's a really bad a bad idea well there are some people that operate that way but you run the chances of of their, when you meet, it's either, A, they don't look like their pictures. Wait, what? I know. Imagine that. You looked awesome in 1985. It's all about ankles. Damn, that was hot. Well, the pictures, well, not on social media, but the pictures that we've put on websites, they're old now. Yeah, yeah. 2012. Yeah, we'd have bit i've gotten older you're getting sexier you're like a fine wine baby it is true yeah well yes okay so thought process no okay yes so you have to you there's a chance you're gonna run into risk that you don't they don't look the same and here's the deal if you haven't if you like
Speaker3: personalities they might have this personality that is a total turnoff yeah i really i have to
Speaker1: say you're putting undue pressure on yourself if you're meeting if look even if the plan is this is a play date you still should meet at the bar at the bar in the hotel first have a drink I'll see you next week. Look, even if the plan is this is a play date, you still should meet at the bar and the hotel first. Have a drink. Sit down and just talk. Because just like Dan said, it gives you a chance to talk about rules, talk about whatever. Because here's the deal. When everybody piles into the room, I don't care who you are. It's awkward to be like, well, here's the deal. You don't look anything like your pictures pictures so i'm not turned on and so we're gonna leave i mean now there was one that that we went to their hotel room and we met with them and we sat there and talked for a while and then we left right and it's not that we had anything against them it's just we weren't ready to do anything right then and there right and so and the only reason we had talked to them briefly because it was at a big party we talked to them briefly at the party and we literally went back understanding just to talk and that's all it was and and then since then later it worked out fine but there was that clear understanding i think you have to take and put yourself in a position for somewhat to have some some form of success i think that people put undue pressure on themselves to have to play look if somebody gets pissed off because you decide you don't want to play and it doesn't matter why you could just not feel it at the moment yeah you know i'm not feeling it but it doesn't matter what it is that's their problem not yours or if you play as a couple then it gives you a chance to leave and go talk and then hook up at a different time well exactly sure everybody's on the same page right but here's the thing fuck the other person's feelings what i'm saying if they don't like the other couple if they don't like it fuck them now i do think if all of a sudden like you're getting cold feet or something's changed ahead of time don't ghost people that. That's just a huge douchebag maneuver. You know, if you are starting to have issues going or concerns, this out of common courtesy, remember, this is a hobby, right? Again, I use the golf analogy all the fucking time. If you're going to be late for your tea time, let the golf shop know. Let the golf course know. Don't just not show up or don't let the other people in your foursome no that's being a douchebag right so you know take if if like that morning you wake up and go i'm just not sure i'm not comfortable then get a hold of them right away don't have people all excited and then 10 minutes before or that you just don't show up or you don't show up or you come up with a lame excuse. They'd rather hear, you know what?
Speaker3: Right now I'm having cold feet. Can we set up a different day to meet?
Speaker2: Yeah.
Speaker3: Or a different place. Or something. They'd much rather hear that than to hear a lie.
Speaker1: Especially when they have plenty of time and not 10 minutes before you're supposed to meet. Because here's the thing. We see it all the time. People totally change their plans and then they're pissed off. When the motherfucker's just ghosted us or whatever the case may be. And that's crap. So you have to be smart. But don't put yourself in a situation where you're in and that's crap so you have to have to be smart but don't put yourself in a situation where you feel pressure to have sex no and as far as that a party look again okay i wouldn't recommend going to this is common sense we should have a segment hey sound guy we need a sound effect for a common sense like segment, segment. Boing! A light bulb. Common sense segment would be, if you're not sure if you're ready to fucking swing, like, get naked, get dirty, and fuck, and get her on, maybe your first event probably shouldn't be, like, I don't know, a house party. Okay, well, seriously. We've seen it. No, we've seen it. We've seen it. And people do that all the that all the time and it's like i get it that's where a big event like a hotel party is kind of nice because you know what if you're feeling it and you want to take that step you certainly can at a big hotel party like our crazy winter nights great you have a hotel room and all of a sudden you've hooked up you've talked to this couple all night long and things are going great and all of a sudden you're like you're new and you're willing to take that chance then you can but if you're not you can go hide in your hotel room and nobody knows right if you go to a house party and here's the thing if the host and hostess or whatever has done a good job people are going to be starting to get naked and just more relaxed and feel comfortable there's going to be a point in time where everybody else is going to be naked. There's going to be fucking going on. And if you're the only one standing with clothes on, well, now that makes everybody feel awkward. Now, do not misinterpret this. Why do we always have to put that on there? I'm not saying if you go to a hospital, you have to fuck. No. Okay get you don't even have to get naked no but you really don't but have some common i mean there's a little bit of common decency with that yes but if you're not comfortable don't get naked well right but don't stand there for three hours you're interested don't stand there for three hours eating their fucking snacks and drinking their booze when everybody starts to get naked you can go you know what i i don't think we're quite ready for this i think we're gonna bow out now y'all have fun okay but what about people that say well maybe you just want to observe for a little while and then maybe you'll get in the mood yeah well we've seen that it didn't happen no it's so here's what i'd say that if you are someone you're not okay, let the host know ahead of time so that the host can let other guests know, hey, we've got one couple, they're kind of new. They're kind of unsure. They're going to kind of just watch. They don't know for sure they're going to play. Give other people that option. Look, in the lifestyle, your personal preference has to take number one priority. If you don't feel comfortable to play, you don't play. If you don't want somebody to do something, you say no, no means no. I get that. And we're huge advocates of that. That's why we're all about that. But by the same token, you also have to have a little common decency and respect other people's night. Okay, let me give you a perfect example. So we were invited to a house party, a couple weeks ago we haven't been to house party for a while we haven't been out as much trust me before the years over we'll have more podcasts about us actually fucking people we we haven't got a chance to be out for a lot of events so we were pretty excited about the house party right but there was a couple that was coming to the house party that are not fans of us in fact they hate our fucking guts okay so we had a decision we had to make right do we call the host and say we're not gonna go because that other couple's there well that other couple is newer than we are and we know that what would have happened the other couple would have been booted from the guest list do we say fuck it we want to go we don't care I don't care. And we'd have shown up. Everything would have been fine, but it would have been awkward as fuck for everybody. Everybody. In fact, it could have killed the party. Do we want to show up and have the other couple feel like they have to leave again that's going to create a weird vibe now we got lucky in the grand scheme of things because of the last minute i got called to do being efficient and i do that so i had to go do a wedding but we had already made the decision we weren't going to go because not because we didn't want to go and fuck right but because out of respect for the host and hostess of the party the other people that were attending a party even the couple that hates our guts so it's not awkward so it's not awkward because you know what we have a responsibility you you have a responsibility to be respectful of everybody look we all only have so many friday and saturday nights right and nothing sucks worse than to get all jazzed up you're shaved you're all everything's all fucking polished spit shined up right you've practiced you've jacked out enough so you've warmed up it'll go a while you got your fucking lube you got your cologne you got your condoms you've got your fucking sex bag ready to go you're all packed up you're all ready to go and then you get there and something stupid happened and the whole night's ruined and then you're just like fuck me and it sucks and so and it's all because especially if somebody else is the cause of it and it could have easily been prevented so look if you're new and you're unsure be honest with the host let them know so they can have no be honest if somebody asks when you're doing that little warm-up ahead of the house party well we're kind of new we don't really know what we're gonna do okay but don't just be a fucking perv standing there you know staring pulling one off oh no i'm good i don't want to touch anybody else but thanks i came and then then leave. Don't eat all the fucking snacks. If you're not going to fuck, you shouldn't be allowed to have snacks. That should be a rule. No snacks. No fucking no snacks. But, I mean, don't just be a tool about it, right? Don't put yourself in a position to, like, feel pressure. Okay, so we're going to go one other place with that because i've done this to you see if you remember this okay so we were at a bar we were at an establishment i was drinking several rubbing cokes and the this other gal was very very flirty with me we're pretty new in this i think i went out of cigarette and she's macking on me and stuff and i was new i was like fuck yeah you and the guy were standing inside uncomfortably just standing there and i'm like all right we're gonna go fuck let's go and we all go and they get in their car and we get in our car and i was pretty sure you were going rip my throat out okay because at this point in time now you felt pressure to have sex and i'm drunk and i'm going what are you but you don't have to sweetie the you already told them we were coming over yeah we kind of have to yeah and so to top it off that night went so well because we we got to their apartment they had cats we got to their we got to their apartment they had cats and like a a squeaky squeaky bed i don't remember the squeaky bed part i do because i remember that i pounded the shit out of her and you were over there just sucking and he couldn't get it up for nothing because he was all kinds of intimidated and so and so we we finished and so we went out in the other room to sit there and talk and he's like oh i think it's going now i think it's going now like 20 minutes later you come out and the look you gave me when he walked out like oh it wasn't going it wasn't going and it was and and then they were yapping we're trying to get out there and they're yapping of course he was like you know maybe we'll have to do this again and i'm sitting there thinking i'm gonna die on the way home i might need to stay here instead uh and we got in the car and you you were rightly so pissed the whole night was a. But I had put you in a situation, because we were new. I don't do that anymore. I put you in a situation where I didn't really give you any way out. Because you weren't drunk, because you were driving. You weren't drunk, so I took that away from you. I was, and it was like, and then, yeah. Yeah, that. so don't do that don't put your spot god you were so fucking pissed off oh my god that was such a long drive home yeah yeah hey guess what we talked about the next day rules communication actually paying attention and seeing what's going about we talk about it first before you just make up your mind for me? We get in the car and I just remember going, so, shut up. It never got up. It never fucking worked.
Speaker3: I don't have it. No, that's not necessarily an issue.
Speaker1: It was that fucking night because you didn't want to fuck him anyways. That was the issue. Has nothing to do with performance. No, you perform like a boss. Nothing turns me off more than a guy that keeps spitting on his dick to rub it to get it hard. You're not big enough to be a porn star. I'm just saying. You're not putting on a good enough show to be a porn star yeah that's right there's a little tea thing i i remember i remember that now now i remember that sitting there because i'm like yeah all of a sudden he's over there just fucking i'm like please quit spitting on it because no i'm not even gonna suck it not to make me a prude or anything but also i was mad because you weren't paying attention to my needs either. No, no. Because usually if somebody like you have had an issue with getting it hard, I say switch, and I work on you to get you hard. And then once it's hard, we switch back. Right. Nope. you i was totally from kind of knew i was there but from start to finish of that entire event that entire night i could not have been more of a clusterfuck if i tried you were really drunk yeah this was but we but we we learned from it and here's the thing i did put a pressure situation and we've never done that since no we have never done that since you know what i don't care how obvious it is of like hey let me come talk to you i'll flat out say no well we're going to talk about it but we'll see here in just a minute and we'll go talk we have never once since then turned to the other one go well so you're ready to go back and we've seen couples do that they've done it with us we already knew we were in whatever they turn to the other couple and go well shall we go ahead and other one and go well so you're ready to go back and we've seen couples do that they've done it with us we already knew we were in whatever they turn to the other couple and go well shall we go ahead and go back well that's putting undue pressure because guess what hey how are they gonna bow out without looking like an ass yeah exactly if you turn me and go are you ready to go you're ready to go back well now i can either say no and be a complete dick and complete douche water I can say sure that would be great yay well now i can either say no and be a complete dick and a complete douche water i can say sure that would be great yay you know so so don't do that don't don't put pressure on yourself i think too many people do that i think they go to events assuming they're like i want to get laid so they get all worked up and then if it doesn't feel right they're like they like, they quit trusting their gut and they just like die. Well, it'll be okay once we get started. No, it won't trust your gut. You know, no, you won't be ostracized if you say no, if it's not right. Look, remember this. When you're fucking somebody, they can tell whether or not you want to be there. Okay. So if you really don't and you're not comfortable, it's not like the other couple is going to couple's gonna be like oh my god that was the best sex ever that was incredible they're gonna like what the fuck was that so don't don't do that shit you know but don't ever never feel pressured never feel pressure but i will go back to an artist and say i think personally you're trying to add too many new things at one time. I think that, look.
Speaker3: As long as you establish your rules.
Speaker1: You don't know all the rules yet.
Speaker3: This is true, but that's how you learn what your rules are.
Speaker2: Here's the thing.
Speaker1: If we'd start off with soft swap, okay? So you're sucking his dick and I'm getting my dick sucked by the dick. I wouldn't, I would not, you would not have known because you wouldn't have said, you wouldn't have made one of those sounds and I said, you can't do that because you don't make that sound with a dick in your mouth. We didn't do that until the first time you fucked somebody else. And I was like, you can't do that. You wouldn't have heard when I said, ooh, baby, and you would have said something about it because you'd have been busy hearing sucking the other guy's dick. We wouldn't have known that until we actually full swath. Okay, but that's where you make your rules is as it's happening but that's but how can you do that if you don't know you don't know what's gonna fucking how much shit set us off not set us off but was like key points to talk about for two or three years when we first got into it all of a sudden something new would hit totally different that we there's no way we could have planned for that. Right. So there's no way to plan ahead of time for what your rules are going to be because you don't know what's going to set you off. Great news. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. I mean, seriously, you can have your ground rules. Yeah, well, you better have some. But then there's going to be some things that are going to set you off when they happen there's no way to avoid that okay so then maybe i guess no you're right you're right but it's a couple things because here's the thing if you don't have some ground rules look man if all of a sudden you're crazy into it and we don't have any we have basic ground rules and next thing you know you got fucking you know a dick in the ass and fucking handcuffs on and being slapped around with a rubber chicken. And I'm like, what the hell's going on? Well, I'm just saying, you know that that kind of shit happens. Well, I don't know about the rubber chicken, but you know that kind of maybe clown sex. You know, that kind of shit happens, right? Because all of a sudden, everybody thinks they know what they're going they're gonna do right when we were new and we've seen with our new couples the first time uh we've been at parties where a guy thought that you know what we're all swinging it where it's a big group sex situation and he just started to stick his fucking little pecker in people's butts and And you were like, no. But two other girls were like, well, okay. They didn't want to say anything i mean okay you you get somebody brand new they don't know and next thing you know they're like well you know how was it for you it was great for me well it was okay you know i mean i got butt fucked i didn plan on it. We didn't talk about it, so I didn't know. Well, there was, like, the first three couple, or when there was three of us, three couples, then that was the first time I had a guy put his hand on my throat. Uh-huh, yeah. Did it bother me? No, but if you don't know. Luckily, I thought it was hot. He didn't do anything heavy. He just put his hand on it, but it was just, like, just like something we'd never know but it was on the other side of a king-sized bed and i'm looking like oh what now think think about this for a minute if i hadn't taken it that way i was gonna go leaping like a fucking superman at a single bound over a rather large woman to tackle this guy who's choking you yeah right i Right? I mean, that's, you know, so, I don't know, that'd be the biggest thing is at least have some basic ground rules and enjoy your journey from soft swap to full swap and make sure you have fun. Okay. Apparently, the music says we're leaving now. 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