Krazy Truth #46 Unicorn sex

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Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Do you need a little more slide in your glide? Are you looking for a high quality sex lube product? We've got the folks for you. Spunk Lube, www.spunklube.com. I don't know.

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Well, I need to get like a heated blanket just to have on my lap. A heated throw? Do you need a heated throw? Is this going to be the old Kaz Bauer? What am I not following? Old people. We're going to have a cat. Oh, shut up. Just saying. Anywho. No. All right. So, hey. Yeah. You know what we're going to do? What are we going to do? I don't know. I was asking you. No, I never know what we're going to do. You surprise me every time. That's the way I roll. I'm just a bucket of surprises. A bucket. Yeah, we'll go with it. So, sex story. This is actually going on in the United States right now.

Okay. There's currently a court case pending. It's the first States right now. There's currently a court case pending that it's the first of its kind. This is actually, this is I found this story and I actually have a link to it. Maybe on the video or something we can put a link to it. I don't know. Anywho, so here's the thing.

A man and a woman were having relations okay so they were having fun they're fun around and uh she was sucking his dick and he is maintaining that um it's never happened to him before but he has a large member and she died of asphyxiation she gagged on his dick and choked to death on his cock so here's the thing so this is currently in court as we speak the best part about this is he was denied the motion to be able to show the jury his penis to prove that it's so massive that's that's why that's it they do agree they do agree that the woman died of asphyxiation I'll see you next time.

his penis to prove that it's so massive that's that's why that's it they do agree they do agree that the woman died of asphyxiation but they're not agreeing to the fact that was he was choking on it that she was choking on his cock oh yeah yeah i'm like gone so what did they do just like hold her head up against her so she couldn't breathe but you still have your nose it had a little of the bdsm to it going with it so he get deep. You know that whole, remember how we said you can send a lot of love with that gag sound?

Well, he was trying to get more than just, he took that a little further than it needed to be. It was a sound. You know like Jabba the Hutt in Star Wars? Yeah, I'm going to say Star Wars. I don't care. You know when Princess Leia gets a chain around his neck and he's like, his tongue's hanging out and stuff. I have a feeling that's what was going on. And he'd like the jury to see his cock because he's pretty sure once they see his cock then they'll know that, why yes, that's exactly what happened. Shall we try that later? I need a way bigger dick for that.

I got a better chance of somebody choking on it because it's a small thing. Like eating a Lego. It's stuck in my throat. Well, I'm trying to think. Okay, well, I guess if they're pushing it down to where it's gagging you, I guess you can't breathe through your nose. That motherfucker, uh, the sock. If, uh, so I don't know what that meant. So here's the thing is, if it, that's, that's about girth, not length. That's gotta be about girth.

So basically this guy had a tree trunk for a penis that he was, it filled all orifices of her mouth unless she's like a chipmunk put a ball put a ball to the side she's like you know the the sword swallowers that can get it halfway down their throat if she was able to get it down into the windpipe then that would block it from your nose being able to do. Can you imagine having an allergic reaction to penis when you had it that deep? What would you do? The guy's getting off thinking you're just gagging on his cock, but you actually need an EpiPen. Oh, Jesus.

You didn't tell me you were allergic to nuts. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week. That was horrible. That is awesome. You find yourself funny, don't you? Well, you couple that with the chipmunk thing. So, yeah, that's actually really pretty good. She didn't say she gagged on his balls with his dick, so there was no balls. She couldn't say anything because she was dead. Because she had a mouth full of cock. Everybody knows it's rude to speak with your mouth full. Jeez. I'm pretty sure there was some throat action going on there, too. All right. Interesting.

Hey, wait till next week. I've got a really cool one for you next week, too. It has more to do with death and sex. So something to look forward to. Just saying. Thank you. until next week i've got a really cool one for you next week too it's more it has more to do with death and sex so something to look forward to just saying all right so let's move in right along shall we get to our first question sure would you like to be all about you again no okay awesome hey by the way for those of you don't know we do have our worldamous secret Crazy Kazma page, which we're recording live on right now.

Hi. So we'll be taking questions from them as they go along tonight as well. And if you want to be a part of that crazy secret group, let us know. Send us an email to crazy, K-R-A-Z-Y, dot Kazma, K-A-S-B-H, at gmail.com. Awesome. OK, so our first first question our first question comes to us from ann sue in kalamazoo she wanted she wanted to pick her own name i i don't think that's real anyways so okay so i wonder why weird okay so this is like a question and statement kind of tied all into one. Okay. Okay. So Ann Sue is a single female. Well, she's not a single. She plays as a single female.

So she's sort of a single female. They have an open marriage. And her whole thing is you need to talk. Can you please talk about couples basically having their shit together before you bring somebody else in and drama, couples drama during sex with somebody else. Because as she said, people think it's really easy to be a single female, except for the fact that when you get drugged into, in the middle of stuff, you get drugged into the couple's drama. She goes, there's nothing like being in the middle of a blowjob and looking over and seeing a girl in the corner in tears.

I'm sure that's pretty epic. But how can you be drama free when other people pull you into their drama?

So the question part of this whole thing is talking about couples and and being drama free and having their shit together before it starts okay does that make sense for the most part for the most part so that okay so here's the thing where do we even begin yeah that's okay so let's let's talk about this for a second number one whether you're a single or whether you're a couple or whether you're a cat a dog i don't care what you are here's the before you bring somebody else into you why do you look at me like that a cat or dog you know i don't know you can bring a cat or dog into no you can't but you don't know what they do in the wild.

Maybe you have your own pride. I'm sorry. It might be their kink. Anyways, but before you bring somebody else into your shitstorm of a life, you really need to have it under control. I mean, think of it this way. Think of it dating.

If you knew that you were just a complete, total, batshit, crazy basket case, and you were a single and you had a date that night with a guy would you just go out and be like all over the place with when you got there or would you like maybe cancel the date yeah i'd probably cancel it you would cancel it or i would learn to keep that to myself you would hide it until after you were married you're not i'm just saying other people just really hypothetically so okay so here's the thing you you need to if you're just gonna if you're just gonna go out to dinner if you're a couple vanilla or not and you're gonna go have dinner with another couple don't you don't take your fight and all your bullshit with you to dinner no i mean it'd be pretty rude if we're sitting here with another couple lovely evening bob you look really nice jane you fucking bitch why didn't you get shit from the store i mean what the hell that would be that would be stupid right we wouldn't do that okay so if you're gonna go and fuck somebody else you really can't bring drama shit into it no right so the first thing is you have to take as a couple take all your outside influences and those need to stay out of the bedroom that's my thought yeah it should okay good i'm glad we're both on the same page with this so but here's the thing okay if you're going to bring somebody else into your bedroom in theory this would be like a sacred place a sacred part your loins are sacred i always wanted to say i know you did so okay so you're so you're i mean this is this is like a adult thing you cannot bring Okay, so you're, I mean, this is like a pretty adult thing.

You cannot bring somebody in, if you're a couple, you cannot hook up with another couple or an individual just to humor your spouse. You can, but it's not going to end well. No. But I think there's so many thoughts going through my head i really can't even organize them do share well there's a whole bunch of them okay to start off they have to be on the same page for one you don't know in her instance if the couple was like well let's have a threesome let's bring this girl in the wife could gone, I don't want to do a threesome. That's horrible. Right. You know, I'll be left out. Blah.

I know I've said it before. So, so they might not have had their stuff together on the communication scale. Right. Of why, of what they're doing. To even begin with. Right. And if you didn't have it to begin with and the wife was kind of acting iffy and kind of acting shy about it and really not wanting to do it you should have inksated or had some time to get to know the single female before dragging them in right and and here's the big stressor this is not on the single no this is not on the single male and it's not on the single. This is not on the single. No.

This is not on the single male, and it's not on the single female. It is 100% on the couple. As a couple, when you invite another couple in, yes, you need to be on the same page.

Now, she mentions in her statement about how difficult it is when you have wives come up and say, hey, we want to fuck you, and then gets all fucking ski-jawed once they get there so so on whose part on the couple's part so what what i think yeah but usually it's one side of the couple that's having the issue well but right obviously someone but if the wife comes up and the wife is having the issue then i'd fucking well but here's the the thing. There's the problem is that why are you doing it?

Look, as a couple, if you're going to have sex with somebody, if you're going to hook up with another couple, a single, a gangbang, you know, 17 dudes off of a truck, I don't care what it is, okay? You're going to hook up with a... You're going to have 17 dildos fall off and go... I don't care, whatever it is, a super fucking robot, whatever. You've got to both be on the same page with it. Okay. You have to both be okay with it. And you can't, one side can't be doing this just to humor. And I think you find that more and more in threesomes, especially involving a female, a single female.

Look, okay here it goes both ways but no not near as much okay oh well i mean maybe a little bit it depends look there's different instances threesome is like pot in the 80s okay follow along with it do you share in the 80s everyone pot's a gateway drug okay if you smoke weed you're gonna start doing crack and heroin and pretty soon you're gonna be doing blowjobs five bucks okay whatever it was a gateway drug a threesome is a gateway is the gateway sex act into the lifestyle i truly believe that okay okay i mean it probably started way earlier like the first time you jacked off or something but we're just going to say the first the first thing that causes most people to even vaguely consider getting into lifestyle very few couples go are sitting around and going you know hey honey you know i know that we've been married for a while and we want to try something new and so uh i was thinking uh you, you know, what if we had 10 guys come over and just rail the shit out of you?

Okay, that is not generally the first thing that people talk about, right? No.

It's most of the time the guy going, hey, honey, so, you know, you experimented in college, and you've admitted she's kind of cute, and it's every guy's fantasy, and everybody's going can we have a threesome that's usually the big the big it's the gateway into the lifestyle and most guys are going hey can we have a threesome with another girl right because that's every guy because look since the the first time we found porn in any variety whether it was a a penthouse forum letter, a dirty magazine somewhere around, or through Snatch Match and we walked through the lines, the first thing we saw was two dudes railing a chick.

And we were like, so as a guy, that's the first thing we... That's what we want. Or not two dudes, I'm sorry. I'm like going, two dudes nailing a chick. No, we're watching one guy get railed by two chicks.

And so every guy wants that that the reason i say it's most happens to females more than males is i was one of the weird guys i i started with i took the gateway drug i wanted a three-way i was just i tried a different sales angle with you i'm smarter than the average fucking parent because you weren't by yet so instead of trying to get it with two girls first i said it's only fair to get with me and another guy to fuck you you did that's thinking right there anyway so because most guys like what i don't want another dick that close okay well they're not really sure the lifestyle so what happens is the guy begs he pleads whatever he wants to get two girls because he thinks he can handle it by the way if you haven't done it yet you're wrong um it's going to be overwhelming as fuck just so you know so you go and you convince your wife you use her as bait you put on the websites on your profile that she's bi curious or maybe that she's straight up bi right and dangle her out there like a lure to hit on girls to get one to come back with you this has happened to us we've been we have been fished at like this before right and so the only thing the single female knows is the wife has to be okay with it you seem like a normal couple you seem relatively sane and the wife asks so then all of a sudden you get back and the wife's to be okay with it.

You seem like a normal couple. You seem relatively sane. And the wife asks. So then all of a sudden you get back and the wife's going, this is overwhelming because all of a sudden hubby poo, his divining rod, he forgot you even have a fuck. He forgot his wife even has a pussy at that point in time. His wife could all of a sudden become like a Barbie doll and there's nothing there because you know what?

He doesn't care if his goes anywhere close to her again except except for the initial blowjob where they're both sucking her dick at the same time because he's seen that in porn and he wants that other than that he's all about the new fresh meat and what happens is the wife is sitting in the corner like trying to look for an opening and all of a sudden she's all kinds of twisted and shit goes South. And that's when you have the single females given a blow job, the wife's off in the corner crying and the guy doesn't give two flying fucks cause he's just excited to just be there in general.

Right. So it's not fair to the single female. It's not fair to your partner either. I mean, that's the other thing. It's not fair. You have to have a conversation. Number one, it's wrong to use your wife as bait. Especially if she's not bi. Well, yeah. At any point in time. If you're bi and you can get in there to help with the other woman, then it's one thing.

But if there's not room or it's not conducive or they're not bi it really doesn't work out very well that that's very true now off of our caspap page and we got a good comment not no not every guy wants that i think it's awesome she said her ex-husband didn't want that so bad when she proposed a three-way with two girls he storm stormed out of the house. That was the ex. Just want to let you know he probably wasn't into girls. Just saying. So, okay. Well, hey, look. Not everybody started with weed. Some people just did ass, and that was their gateway drug. It is what it is.

Everybody's a little bit different, but. We started off. We didn't even start off with a threesome. No, we just fucking jumped all in.

We were like, fucking, let first feet first no clothes what are we gonna do the reality of it is though is when you see this happen when look when people are when you're using your spouse even if you get what you want number one okay you use your spouse to get to as bait you get what you want your experience in the lifestyle is going to be very short fucking lived because tell you what when you want to have her do the fucking 17 person gang bang she's going to remember the shitty experience with the threesome she's probably not going to be in okay just saying she's going to be pissed and there's going to be hurt feelings and it's going to be a really bad situation overall number two you're going to get a reputation amongst all and it's going to be a really bad situation overall.

Number two, you're going to get a reputation amongst all of the other people out there. Look, if you're known as a batshit crazy loon as a couple, and all of a sudden you have this explosive dynamic happen when you're in a play session, the word's going to get around, right? And other people are not going to want to play. I want to take this past just the singles though for a second, okay? Because this is not just a single issue, right? This is a couple issue as well.

When you are bringing someone, another couple or or another whatever into the bedroom oh my god this taking one for the team yes everybody does it to a degree because it's hard to find four people that everybody goes oh my god they're the dreamy person i just always wanted to fuck it doesn't work that way usually but still if you if you're asking someone to do something massive taking one for the team that's bad and and look you do not have the right as couple a does not have the right to ruin couple b like us as example our weekend by having some fucking mini meltdown been there been there it sucks if you're not if you're both not on the same page if you're both not into it you're both not wanting to be there or you or whatever then don't be there i'd rather have somebody flake out on me than freak out on me when we're naked that's totally my thing now the other thing right along with that is we've talked about this before you have to have your rules you have to have your you have to have all your your ducks in a row before you go the worst ways in the world to make rules is when you're naked.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's great to make rules when you're naked, like with each other. You and I can make rules naked, just the two of us. But when you have somebody else in there, then rules get twisted because somebody's, and you can't change the rules when you're naked with other people.

Well, and I know, well, I've done it and i haven't done it what haven't you done um you know when it comes to uh communicating during during sex with this other person or not i know i've been in situations where i've said you can't do that or i've waited till afterwards and said i don't like it when you call her that that's my name right do not do that again right but that that wasn't a form of like jealousy or it just hit me wrong and i just went no don't do that that was a learning curve that was a growth process well that was the first threesome with a You know, it happens. Right.

But then I've, you know, I've freaked out once. And it wasn't horrible. I told you that I didn't want to get left out. Yes. And I felt left out. There was confusion. There was confusion on the tag. There was confusion on when I said, okay, switch. And then it didn't switch the way i envisioned it right and i went fine i'll go sit on the bed and i'll color right or i was playing some game of my phone you i know what game you weren't playing jingle the nuts well it's not like you know i could squeeze into like like a nipple or something i couldn't get in there.

So it was just like, well, okay, now what? But it's a learning curve. Yeah. Part of it is the process is always, always changing and growing. And we are always changing and growing. You should be always changing and growing. It's new things. Something's always going to come up and you have to figure out in your mind how to handle it.

There were all kinds of things we didn't know that would be an issue not an issue but would would kind of encourage you go yeah when you heard it somewhere else until we did it but then we talked about it but we communicated and that's that's uh amy's uh on our world famous crazy cats page is talking again communication and that's the key you have to communicate you have to communicate with each other now i'm going to throw the other thing out there if you have specific rules whether it be with a single male single female another couple the gangbang whatever it is i don't care remember you know your rules as a couple the other person doesn't know your rules unless you tell them so let's say that one of your rules is um no kissing okay well here's the deal when i fuck i like to kiss we kiss when we fuck now if your rule is last night we didn't we did no we didn't not very much because i got you from behind yeah so i was kissing back your neck oh you're articulate uh anyway so the thing is is that um okay but we know that rule okay we don't have a rule against kissing you and i don't have a rule against kissing if you don't tell us that rule force of habit is gonna kick in and so i'm gonna start you're gonna be fucking you know the husband i'm gonna be fucking the wife and i'm i'm probably gonna kiss you you're probably gonna kiss now we broke the rules now this is when freakouts happen by the other couple a lot of times or can happen in a situation here's the deal we had no way to know now if you clearly go over the rules say hey look by the way we don't you know we don't, you know, we're out on kissing.

Okay, great. Now, we know, too, so now we can adhere to those rules. Right. I mean, granted, I understand you don't necessarily need a spreadsheet and a signed document and, you know, an affidavit saying, make sure we know. But, I mean, a simple common courtesy, go through the rules.

The individual single female or the single male or the other couple you bring in, they're not mind readers no right so so you have to you have to communicate it most people are going to be very very respectful if those are your rules the other thing that can happen is you this is why you as a couple you have to communicate you have to both know your own rules nothing worse and we've seen this we haven't been a part of this but we've seen it nothing worse than here's the rules for the couples and one half of the couples over here and he's breaking every fucking rule he is running completely amok okay hurt story and this one's over here and she's following every rule to a t and all of a sudden she sees what he's fucking doing and we got a problem and the people that get caught in the middle of it are the innocent bystanders that are just here to sport fuck you know i mean all of a sudden say whoa what what wait what the fuck you can't do that people you have to you have to communicate see do you remember that one couple we hooked up with and he's just watching and he's just watching his girl and you're just going at her and i'm like you ready to go no i just rather watch yeah yeah you know why i remember that one so well Now, let's just rather watch.

Yeah. You know why I remember that one so well? Because I was pissed. Oh, you were steaming ass pissed. I just kind of went. I look over. I think there's a problem. And you look over, and you give me this ultimate eye roll. And I'm like, okay. So I'm kind of trying to hurry up.

It's like I'm realizing at this point in time he has a hard-on he didn't want to the dude had a raging hard-on so it's like so now i'm trying to like you know figure out what the fuck what's going on and i'm like okay this is what we're gonna fake it we're done thanks and she bolted yeah that's the other part of that story she got out and bolted out of the room in tears and that was the best part so now so then we're sitting there going so no let's paint the picture this picture is awesome it's a cheap divy fucking hotel because after a horrible halloween party there's a cheap divy hotel right so you're naked on one bed and he's kind of just sitting crisscross applesauce next to you with a boner i'm naked on the other bed with a drippy with drippy condom on my dick the woman has run out screaming and we're just sitting there and there's this awkward silence and he runs out after i'm just like what the hell just happened for a second there's like this five seconds it seems like eternity of okay don't make a noise you ready go that was the science and then all of a sudden he goes fucking sprinting out of the room he doesn't say goodbye he doesn't say thank you he doesn't say see you later he doesn't say shit he's grabbing shit i don't think that either one of them are dressed when they ran out of the room no they put something on they're not gonna run out and we're just like and i remember you look at me and you're like what in the flame fuck just happened i go what the hell was going on over there you go not a goddamn thing was going on i'm like he had a heart on he didn't want to fuck he just wanted to watch it's like oh i wasn't that upset by it no but it was it's we were just sitting there and then all we could do with them made ourselves another cocktail because it was just like this is the dumbest fucking thing we'd ever been a part of and here's the best part luckily we we skipped breakfast the next morning do you remember that because they were notorious for that hotel everybody came down for breakfast the next morning we're you remember that?

Mm-hmm. Because they were notorious for that hotel. Everybody came down for breakfast the next morning. We're like, fuck that. The last one we wanted to do was run into those dumb motherfuckers again. Jesus. And we've never seen them since. Uh-uh. Never seen them since. Okay, guess what that did to our night? It sure, I wasn't going to, I mean, was she a bad fuck?

I honestly don't know because about midway through, I was trying sitting over there why he's sitting there with you with the heart on and you're not doing anything i'm like so after that i kind of lost focus maybe neither it wasn't like i'm like well you know what i'm just ready to have a cigarette and enjoy and relish in the satisfaction of that it sucked okay i don't know if she had a good time i have no idea he had a ball because he got to watch so i think i think he was the only one i think he was the only one that got to do anything uh that that he wanted i have no idea i don't know so don't be that couple because here's the deal now we've told that story on our podcast so it's going everywhere everywhere we've told that story to a lot of people.

So, you know, trust me now. We're nice. We protect the innocent. We don't use names. Not everybody's that nice. So you might want to keep that in mind. Don't be that fucking psychotic couple. Some people are going to, if they're caught in the wrong moment, they can have a jealousy issue or a freak out moment.

It can happen happen but even then be in tune with your spouse take a minute and and here's the thing there's really nothing wrong with saying hey you know what i got we gotta slow down a second we gotta stop a second because again as as aunt annie sue or who was it and sue said she Kalamazoo, said she would rather say, hey, it was a great night, and call the night early, than sit and listen to the chick sobbing while she finished sucking the guy's dick. So, you know, just tell them. As soon as I saw crying, I would have stopped and gone, I don't know what's going on here.

Well, you wouldn't be necessarily focused on that. No, but as soon as I saw it. Well, yeah. I don't think she stayed around to continue the party. I'm just like, fuck you, bitch. Cry on. But I would have gone. I didn't realize there was an issue with sucking dick, but okay. Maybe it was her party. She could cry if she wanted. You never know. Okay, so this is a great place to take a quick break. Let's take a quick moment if we can. And you know what? What are you doing? This is driving me nuts. She's making a sex story right here. Oh, my Lord. You have it all. We actually. Oh, you're sweaty.

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Alright, so we're back on the air. I don't know. I wasn't paying any fucking attention. I know you weren't. That's why. It will be since I had hair and makeup in here over the studio helping me out over the break. There was no makeup? Yeah, there was. Do you want makeup? Sure, yeah. We'll do that. We'll save that for a whole separate show. And we'll have that for a totally different... You know the thing for makeup. I do.

I dig makeup look pretty that's right and i can walk in high heels so fuck you all anyways uh so maybe we'll do that a fair show sometime i don't care that'd be kind of fun sure yeah what do you want to talk about i love that look i just absolutely love when you just have this dazed and confused look on your face. Because I can't come up with this shit. That's why we have the viewers. Thank God for them. Okay, so I actually do have another question. I actually have lots of questions. Some are about myself. Mom, why do I touch myself? No, okay.

So this question actually comes to us from Michigan michigan i don't know where just michigan doesn't matter a lot of things are in michigan kalamazoo's in michigan you know that there you go all right anyway so uh this comes to us from michigan and the question is what defines single in the lifestyle now i have no idea if this is guy or girl or whatever. And I thought that was an interesting question. I've tried to reach out to him. I never got any more response back. So I'm just going to tackle this from my perspective. Okay. Well, it'll actually be our perspective. You and I together.

We're here together. Ooh, I have a say. Okay, uh here's the challenge that we find now in the lifestyle with single okay they're single single which is truly single and we'll just call it thanks for listening folks great job no it was you're truly single you're not attached you're not a boyfriend or a girlfriend to You're not married. You're just you. You might have a pet. You might go home to an empty apartment or an empty house. Well, ideally you wouldn't. You eat ramen noodles a lot and you watch sad TV shows. I'm just kidding. I'm just fun with everybody. Wow. That's funny shit. Asshole.

Okay. But you also go out on weekends. You have a party life. You can get fucked or fucked whoever you want. You can go do whatever. You don't have to answer anybody. You're single. It's just you. Right? In the lifestyle, then we have, you have single but dating. Okay? So like in the vanilla world, single and dating don't go together. Right. You're either with somebody or not.

But in the lifestyle world you're dating but you're not married okay so they can kind of do their own thing okay to a degree if they agree upon it as a couple they can do their own thing okay so and and that's the same with marriage so basically they have you have single it's single, or you have open relationship. So you can kind of do your own thing. You're playing as, you play as a single or whatever the case may be. Okay. Okay. So the part that gets interesting with that is, here's where the challenge comes from me when it comes with singles.

If you're a single and you're, no, if you're married or if you're a single and you're no if you're married or if you're dating whatever and i look at this more towards marriage you're married and and i play but you don't but you know that i'm in the lifestyle okay okay that would be that is that's one form of an open relationship or if I don't know.

okay okay that would be that is that's one form of an open relationship or if you go do your own thing and i always go do my own thing we're in an open relationship okay so i get where where someone goes well i play as a single okay that makes sense to me the challenge that i get and where it gets to a gray area is you're not in the lifestyle i am i have to everybody else has to take my word that you don't play they never met you they don't see you they don't know you they have to just take my word and i say well no I'm just I'm just single I just I'm just single or or then it goes into the next level which is you have people that say they're a single in a lifestyle but they're actually cheating so how do you define how do you take and make sure or at what point do you draw the line that becomes a challenge for everybody in the lifestyle right okay so obviously if you're in an open marriage that's great both sides are doing their things no worries i think that there becomes a definite line though between cheating and playing without the other partner at all playing do you let me ask this do you have a problem playing with somebody if the the spouse just doesn't play they know or as far as we know they know that that about the life so they just don't play at all do you have a problem with that i guess not because i've done it.

Did you when we first started? Did you when we first started? Because when you first started, that's a challenging place to go when somebody says they're married, but their spouse doesn't play. Well, when we first started, we weren't looking for single anything. It was just couples. So that wasn't brought up.

I did have one guy try to message me and go well my wife doesn't know so i just i just play you know without her knowing and i'm like no that's cheating right so so and that's where and that's where it becomes but then i've also been caught where i didn't know right the guy was married because he said he was single and everybody said he was single and then come to find out many years later he was definitely married yeah he was he was and then he got his wife into the lifestyle right so it it has to be a player's choice that's all i'm player's choice it. A player's choice. A player's choice.

It's like a card game. But here's the thing. How do you, how, if you're a single and, or you're married and your spouse doesn't play what they know, how do you effectively communicate that? I mean, really, because I'm sitting here going, okay, everybody agrees cheating is, or most people in the lifestyle say cheating is bad, right? So how does somebody, what, do we make them carry a letter? Do we make them, well, I mean, seriously, and I don't necessarily have an answer to that. I would love to hear some people's idea of what the answer is.

Because how do you make sure, because there are a lot of people, most people in the lifestyle are good people. But there are some that will, why cheat and steal? It is what it is. No is so i've known some like i know one gal who when she found her play partner she actually talked to his wife and said you're okay with this and that's okay because i don't want to cross any boundaries right so she and she actually serves so she knew he was in the lifestyle she did not play right and they actually play as a couple and she kind of serves as a reference for him in that regard. Yeah.

So, but that's a really challenging thing. How does a guy, how does a guy let somebody know that, Hey, my wife knows without every chick he ever wants to talk to, calling, calling his wife or making him carry a letter. I don't really know.

And, and that actually goes into a a deeper issue but we'll hit on that in a second that i've often wondered because you do have to take people at face value this smarter white communications is so key kids and and being honest and up front because if you're known as a batshit crazy either couple or single or whatever no one's going to believe you if you say no really my wife knows i play but she doesn't if you're known as fucked in head no no one's going to believe you if you say, no, really, my wife knows I play, but she doesn't.

If you're known as fucked in the head, no one's going to touch you with a 10-foot bull. You know. Or let you use your pole. As far as my opinion goes, you trust your gut. You have to trust your gut. If there's something from the instant that you don't like, don't do it. Right. And you trust your gut, and you're going to get reviews. You're going to hear other reviews. Usually people know and will say.

Or if you've seen somebody talk to him and you trust your gut and and you're going to get reviews you're going to hear other views usually people know and and will say or if you've seen somebody talk to him and you happen to know him and you go what do you know about him right what do you know about her what do you know about him tell me you know is everything cool there have been any issues drama right i think that if if you are if you have the if you're going to play somebody as a couple, as a swinger lifestyle couple, even though you're, you're like the one example you used before at that point, you have a responsibility.

If you're going to get in some sort of a longterm, you're going to be a pretend couple. A, you need to be upfront with people, which they are. They let people know he's married. She's, that they're play partner partners. You let people know. Honesty goes a long ways in this lifestyle. And you do your due diligence. And if you're going to hook up and make sure the other spouse really knows. Now, here's the other thing I'm going to throw in there. Everybody talks about cheating and how bad cheating is. Okay? And we were right there.

There was a guy that you said, no, he was cheating on his on his wife you said no so let me pose this hypothetical question to you to vanilla people right outsiders looking in don't know a fucking thing about the lifestyle think all swingers are just dirty dirty whores okay how they would i can see what they would say well just because you justify cheating because you both know about it think about that for a minute how does it really vary so why how do we throw stones if a guy or gal is cheating on their their spouse when when but if you're playing together how is that cheating you're still fucking the it's what the playing is it depends what your definition of cheating is is cheating is cheating the fucking or is it is it something else to me cheating is going behind somebody's back okay so well that's because you're a swinger in a lifestyle you dirty whore no i'm just kidding i mean i mean think about that no because well okay in an open relationship it's a different story but before we had an open relationship if you went off and you played with somebody else and i didn't know about it wouldn't that kind of be a form of cheating right so if i called and then you didn't come home and tell me about it okay so that would mean i would want to keep half of my stuff weird so if i would have called and said hey i know we're we're not an open relationship but there's this chick i'm drunk in a bar so i'm gonna go fuck her and i'll talk to you later click and then when i got home yeah i wouldn't fuck.

You'd have been like, well, at least you were honest and told me. Would that have been your reaction? Right after you beat me with everything. You have called me. No. And you said, hey, if I can hook up with this girl, do you care? No, wait a minute. This is when we were swingers. I've done that. Not beforehand. Well, yes, not beforehand. I'm saying beforehand. You've done that? I wasn't fully listening. I was trying to read. No, I'm talking before when we weren't swingers. What constituted cheating to you? Before we were swingers, what would you think cheating meant?

I'm with Andy going behind somebody's back. Okay if so what i'm saying that's why i'm playing devil's advocate here so what i'm saying is if i told you about it i'm gonna go fuck this girl i'm really drunk i'm sorry i know we've never done this before you know i love you but she wants to fuck me so i'm gonna go fuck this girl i'll talk to you later click it kind of has agreement. No, wait a minute. You didn't say that wasn't what you said. You said going behind somebody's back.

So if I'm up front, we're not swingers, and I'm up front with you and tell you, I didn't go behind your back, so freebie. Is that how that works? Oh, yeah. I don't know. Oh, hell, I do. I do.

Even without ever having done done that i know exactly how that fucking would have worked i would have had my ass beat but you'd have been you'd have been throwing shit you would have been then between the tears and packing and out the door you would have fucking went no i didn't make you feel guilty yeah but it wouldn't it wouldn't just all of a sudden been like well at least you told me up front thing no there's no way okay but as swingers you have an agreement right but here's the thing this is what i'm saying is that okay cheating is not it doesn't mean diddly shit about going behind somebody's back if i went be and i've done it before i went behind your bag and stayed at the bar drinking after hours.

I didn't get your permission. I just did it. I wasn't in trouble. No. Okay. It's not. You worked there at the time. I was in trouble for coming home wasted. So what was I in trouble? Because you parked the car stupid. What was I in trouble for? I wasn't in trouble for not telling you that I was going to stay and get drunk.

I was in trouble for and getting hammered so here's what i'm saying is most people if you ask them you know what they wouldn't be mad if well i'm sorry we sat at a library and read books together i was reading a book till four in the morning and you legitimately did it and happened to be a girl across from me that's not cheating but if i fucked her that's cheating the cheating part is the fucking not the not telling right is that is that not a valid point that's a valid point okay so here's my thing once we're swingers we go well no no no fucking's not a problem that's what we're in it for sport fucking that's what we do this is our hobby some people garden some people will do woodworking some people bang the neighbor's wives it is what it is so that's not cheating so now why do we really have a problem with the guy that wants to or why a woman wants to come out and fuck other people my only thing is because i've had it happen and i didn't even fuck the guy because he was a pussy and he lived a thousand miles away but that's beside the point yes he did i don't want some girl to go batshit crazy on my ass because he lied to her okay so then the reality is you don't really have a problem with somebody cheating as long as you, you just don't want to deal with the drama from their fucking bullshit.

So avoid it. So avoid it. So the thing is, that's the question I pose out there because a lot of people get really holier than thou when it comes to that.

And you can see, if you really think about it from a hypothetical situation, why are we so hyper, why are we so holier than thou with it because to the vanilla world we look like nothing but dirty cheaters the vanilla world looks at us and goes you just justify fucking whoever you want by saying well we're doing it together or i knew about it so to the rest of the world we look just as dirty as somebody who's cheating on their spouse looks to us now does that make sense it makes sense but so so i guess the question then becomes should somebody that's cheating what should they do like where we own where we at we own multiple pages what do we have to six pages five pages i don't know thousands thousands upon thousands of swingers should we if we find out somebody's cheating should we boot them off or should we say that's your situation their situation is player's choice but we need to card with that no well but i mean seriously because a lot of people tell us we should kick him off they should say you should get rid of the dirty fucking cheater bastards but how do we make that line and then how do you confirm that all the other people that say they're in an open relationship it's truly open how do they confirm that if you're out of town and i say i have a hall pass that i really do they can call me you're gonna give out your number no but if you're with them to fuck them they can call me but Are you going to give out your number?

No, but if you're with them to fuck them, they can call me. But here's the thing. Well, that kills the fucking moment. Here, hold on one second. Oh, you've got to talk to my mom. Mom, can I have a sleepover? Hey, Billy said that I could eat dinner at his house. Can I eat dinner? Shelly said that they play as a couple. Right. But she's had guys that she tells them they don't play alone. And he goes, that's okay. You don't have to tell him. Okay, that's bullshit. That's wrong. That's hungry fucking crap. That's a great way to get your ass kicked. Yeah. By a lot of people. Yeah.

And understand, I'm not justifying cheaters. Okay, I'm just bringing it up all the way through. Amy said she'd be really concerned or worried if you were in a library with a hot chick for many hours. I actually legitimately like to read. It's God's honest truth, I do. Well, I know you like to read. I've seen you do it. I like to read naked more, just saying. I don't know if I've ever seen you read naked.

uh oh gotcha okay well i'm just saying and it's one of those things the laptop is dying that's the one that's doing the oh okay the live live okay all right well with that being said apparently we got to go uh kids so i hate to be rash but anyways just so i know i'm I'm not out, I'm not encouraging cheating. I want that really noted. No. Just a point for conversation. It's just a different topic. We want to hear your opinions, so keep sending us your opinions. Uh, let us know. We'd love to continue this conversation with folks. Yeah, absolutely.

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