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Speaker1: Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. Hey, do you need a little more slide in your glide? Then you need to visit our friends at Spunk Lube. Spunk Lube, multiple flavors and styles of lube for all of your needs visit them at www.spunklube.com make sure you put in the in the coupon code kasbah k-a-s-b-h and get your 10 discount every time spunk lube hey you crazy motherfuckers welcome back into another edition of crazy truth that's right i'm your host with the most i am cole i'm here with the lovely holiday spiritual all guru miss amanda hey that's all what you can say yes you say with some bells hey dangling hey and we are here with episode number 29 that's right i wrote that down episode 29 of the crazy truth man we are so prepared and all over this shit it's like we've done this show like i don't know 28 times see i did that yeah i say about that all day long yeah i'm pretty special all right so we got all kinds of cool stuff to cover tonight uh i got good questions you don't know any of the questions no i don't keeping you in the dark sound guy doesn't know shit nobody knows anything do you no not really all right so i do know this we're gonna start off with our our regular sex story okay so this is not actually a sex story this is almost more of a dude you're an idiot involves nakedness okay is the best way to do that oh the sound guy like that one sorry that deal is a little odd all right so uh apparently I don't know. dude you're an idiot involves nakedness okay is the best way to do that oh the sound guy like that one sorry that deal is a little odd all right so uh apparently uh some football players at byron high school in byron illinois it's a high school it's a high school okay made the decision that it would be a good idea to go streaking at a home football game there There were 10 of them. So they went streaking across the field at a home football game. Probably not a good idea. Probably not. Okay. You know what's the even worse idea? Have an Oriole stuck up your ass when you do it. That's right. All 10 of them went streaking with Oreos jammed in their butt crack and up their butts. This made the news, to say the least. So, upon further investigation, they have determined this was not a hazing incident. This was not a bullying situation. That's right. These stupid motherfuckers chose to do it all on their own. It's one thing to fucking streak. Why do you need to stick cookies up your ass oh make it taste better what the fuck cream filling it was probably just in their butt cheeks to see if they could hold it and run at the same time why would you think that way why would why okay what would do it what would make somebody go you know what man these cookies are delicious let's stick them up our ass and run across a football field it's just to see if you come on with your butt clenched. I don do it. What would make somebody go, you know what? Man, these cookies are delicious. Let's stick them up our ass and run across a football field. It's just to see if you can run with your butt clenched. I don't know. All you got to do is have the shits, and then you can find out if you can run with your butt clenched. And you don't need to do it naked at a home football game. Here's the best part with this, though. There was repercussions for this team. These 10 young men all got suspended for three games. Guess what one of those games was? Don't. Their state championship final game, and they lost. Hey, congratulations, cookie boy. I bet you're real proud of that. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of things in high school I would not want to have had to go home and tell my mom and dad. One of them was suspended for three games for shoving cookies up my ass and running across field my dad would have probably let it go with the streaking yeah yeah he would have let that go he'd been whatever i don't care but the cookie part he would just fucking beat the crap out of me so yeah there you go see stupidity it starts young it starts early i'll bet you uh let's just so that that's in high school so let's say give it about five years so when crazy truth is about five years old we'll probably be doing another weird sex story about some of these same gentlemen sticking their penises some places they're not supposed to like meat grinders and shit just just saying do girls think like that no when you're in high school was there ever a time that went, you know what? Let's see if we can all get naked and shove some of our cooter and run across the field? No. How about no? How impressive is that for a guy, though? Wouldn't that? If you're a grower and not a shower. Well, yeah. Unless they had their hand over their cookies. Maybe that was the whole idea of the the cookies if they're all looking to see if we're dropping oreos out of our ass they won't be looking at our junk how did anybody know that they would unless you have like a giant cookie how would you even know there was a cookie in that's not a cookie that's a cake apparently it made it sound like it alluded to that there was more than one per ass like they were like it was obviously like like they were obviously holding something between their butt cheeks yeah i guess all i can figure out is is they're trying to make it look like they're shit i don't know somebody had to tackle them they had to stop somewhere and that's when the whole cookie i doubt they would tackle them they'd probably just get them off the field and then you know i don't know what they should have done is brought him back on the field. That'd been a better punishment. Bring him back out and at halftime, put him right in the middle of the band and have the band open up, play a song around him, stand there naked, not letting their cover their little growers, not showers. That would have been a punishment. There goes your prom date, kids. Just saying.
Speaker2:
All right.
Speaker1:
So moving away from high schoolers and cookies in their asses, because why wouldn't you? Let's move on, shall we? We shall. All right. So the questions tonight. Now, I have a series of questions, and they all kind of worked out pretty well together. I kind of put that cigarette out with one drag. That was awesome. There you go. Burn that for flavor. Anyways, it's like incense. Same. Future sponsor, hopefully. It starts with an M, and it burns so smooth anyways all right so all these questions kind of tie in together so what we're going to tackle kind of hate to say that after that last story but what we're going to tackle today is we are going to tackle we're going to talk about soft swap versus full swap okay okay so now we're going to we're going to preface this because here's the deal. As much as I want to get hate mail, because it's kind of funny, I want it to be known. You'll hear some questions that will sound somewhat derogatory-ish towards one side or the other. All I do is read the fucking questions, folks, okay? I don't make this shit up. I just read them, okay? Okay. So don't hate on me for for that i'll give you plenty of other things to hate on me about i promise okay so the first question the first question comes to us it comes from us from us no it comes to us from the east coast that's all i got from the east coast and the question is why do so many couples start off with soft swap when they're first in a lifestyle versus full swap okay so there you go so answer it i'll sit back i'll be back in a minute well that's just out of comfort well but now wait a minute okay everybody says that everybody says it it's out of comfort. Let's talk about what soft swap is versus full swap. Okay. Okay. Full swap is you're married to somebody else. I'm married to somebody else. Okay, picture this just for a minute. Okay. Okay. We hook up or we say hi. We have drinks, whatever the case may chat and you and i go fuck or we fuck and the other couple fucks that's full swap right or the other i thought you were saying soft swap is i'm like no it's not no no soft swap and there's different degrees of what people consider soft swap right right okay i like to look at it and we're gonna call it the casbah definition why because it's our show and we fucking can the casbah definition we'll just say is going to be anything oral and less so it might be you're married to somebody else i'm married to somebody else that divorce pending so we're married to other people so the thing is is that we're going to we're going to make out you may give me a hand job when my finger. We'll probably be oral sex involved. And that's it. There's not going to be any. I'm not going to fuck you. That's not going to happen. That's going to be. That is soft swap. Right? Yes. A lot of new people in the lifestyle. When they're dipping their toes. And we've talked about this dipping toes. But whatever. When they're dipping their toes in the lifestyle, they feel like it's not as committal, which for a guy, it's really not. For a guy, it's pretty easy for the most part. I think it's more committal for a woman, but that's just whatever. So it feels safer or maybe less less dirty or less sinful in quotes if you if you start off with with something like that okay so the question is this as a woman do you think is it is it is sucking a dick a random unknown dick because we've heard previous stories sucking a random unknown dick, because we've heard previous stories, sucking a random unknown dick, is that less committal than taking a dick in the cooter? What'd you say? It's been so long she has to think about it. Well, no, a little bit of dirt Less Probably Probably not as invasive Okay Because you can clamp down and make it go away if you need to No No I'm trying to think of how one gal Had told me one time it was, she would only, it was like, it has something to do with condoms though, because going without one is, um, is too personal. Right. And because some people are going, okay, how come everybody pushes about safe sex when you're fucking, but they don't follow through with that same thing on oral sex, which is a valid point. You you're you are going to find some people that when it comes to oral sex they're going to have they're going to require the guys to wear condoms or they're going to wear dental dams or you know whatever the case may be and understand at this point in time safe sex we're not even talking about that that is that is a totally different show check it back at like episode 35 on that one so but just the overall comfort level see to me i think what it is is that people go well we're gonna soft swap and they can stop it if they don't feel comfortable before it actually gets to oral sex right so if you start making out with another couple and it's just not jiving people aren't feeling comfortable you know the new person's starting to sweat like a stuck pig and and get all queasy and you can be like i can't do this and you go around no you know no harm no foul type thing it's hard for us because we didn't start that way no we were like here's the deal we're gonna do this go big or go home let's fuck so for us we wouldn't we never did the soft swap thing we've actually only done a soft swap one time and that was with because the other couple that's all they did was soft swap and we knew that and so we were like hey you know it was at a party like oh what the hell and and so and it really wasn't much no it really was erotic but it wasn't much we fucked really good afterwards well i'm pretty sure they did too well i'm sure they did too but i mean it's still i mean it was okay it didn't nobody is it something for us is it something i want to do all the time no no not not really i mean it's okay soft swaps kind of like going to prom well i mean think about it a little bit prom i don't know about you never mind i'm sorry well that explains a lot of everything i'm sorry it's a lot like going to prom if you're dorky Cole, you know, where I got a blowjob. And I thought I'd really done well. Obviously, I should have went to your school. Just saying. Anyways. So, okay. So, understand that some people think that. Now, to me, one of the things that comes up with that, though, is, and I'm going to touch on this a little bit later. Keep this in mind. Soft swap, it's great to have the plan and idea that we're going to stick with soft swap only but it can be very easy to all of a sudden magically make that transition to full swap and you don't even know what happened so keep that in mind we're going to talk about that in a minute okay yeah because i it depends on how set you are in your rules well exactly but we're going to talk about that jump ahead. No. No, we won't have anything to talk about the second half of the show. Sorry. God. No training. No training. Anyways, okay. So. Don't pop things on the last minute. Hey, it's good. That's what she said over and over again. Sorry. Okay. So. Coming in my throat. I'm bad. All right. So anyways, I'm going to tie into the next question with that. We had question that we had a question it was kind of sorry why would anybody bother with soft swap this game i'm not even gonna say where this came from okay but it was because it was snotty and it was like so the full question was soft swap is stupid why would anybody bother with it okay here's what i say to that if it's not for you fuck you fine. Right. There are such things out there in the lifestyle, and we know some of them. I would call them full swap snobs. Okay. Okay. It's people that go, I won't do anything because all they do is soft swap. Well, here's a great thing. You know what? They like won't even talk to them. They don't like to hang out with them. They don't like to talk to them. Nothing. Because they're only a soft spot. Here's the deal. Just because all you want to do is suck a dick, or that's all we feel comfortable with is oral sex, doesn't mean we can't still be really cool people to hang out with. Okay? And you should not exclude somebody just because that's not your preference. I mean, if you're only going to talk to the people that you actually want to fuck, well, then you probably shouldn't go to because if other people do that to you you'll be talking to like each other only just saying because that means you're a prick uh so but there are full swap snobs that they don't understand they don't get it so they don't they won't participate in it to me if that's your rules look in our years in the lifestyle we find a lot of people that start off with soft swap and they have gradually gotten more comfortable and went into and went into a full swap mode right so and and that's the thing and that's the thing now i'm just running solo here So that's the thing is that they've went into a full swap mode as they started to feel more and more comfortable.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
Or maybe they're primarily soft swap, but sometimes when they go to parties, they'll make exceptions.
Speaker4:
So maybe that's just safe for them.
Speaker1:
Exactly. And again, we say this all the fucking time. Remember, everybody's experience in the lifestyle is their own.
Speaker3:
Right. Right.
Speaker1:
So if what gets you off, if what I love more than anything else
Speaker3:
Let's go. Remember, everybody's experience in the lifestyle is their own. Right. Right?
Speaker1:
So if what gets you off, if what I love more than anything else is watching you be in the parking lot and suck a guy's dick, okay? Which is really, really hot. See previous episodes. And I think that's really, really hot. And that's what I think is, and you agree that it's really, really hot doing that, then you're obviously going to take and, you know, then that's what you should do as a couple. I mean, that's the only thing you should do as a couple. If that's what makes you excited and makes it... How are we getting any good comments on this, by the way? By the way, for those of you that don't know, we also do a live show. We're doing this live as we speak on our large facebook page so uh we like to answer questions and stuff comes up so the thing is give people an opportunity to live their lifetime their life experience how they want to live it don't judge somebody okay for not everybody soft swap is not the way to start now there's probably couples out there that did it like we did it where they took and jumped in with both feet with all genitalia. Anyways, they jumped all in and they could have had a bad experience and it could have ended really badly. Yeah. And maybe soft swap would have been a better way to go. Okay. But to each their own. for me if you're just starting off it makes more sense to do the soft swap then we've seen some couples that well we only hook up with single females at the moment oh hell yes because we saw a couple of those and it's great news we only look for unicorns well you know what i only buy winning lottery tickets too well i don't know if it was just just unicorns. There was one couple that said, no, we're only hooking up with females at the moment. And it's just like, well, how is that fair for her? Well, you better hope she's bi. Yeah, or otherwise it's really not. Yeah, or, you know, I mean, because it's not a communication, it'd be no different than to say we're only hooking up with single males i think it's easier for a girl well i was gonna say maybe maybe not maybe for some it's easier to watch their husband have sex with another female than it is for the husband to watch their wife have sex with another guy yes you see that okay you see that a lot yeah as you giggle yep okay you see that a lot because here's the thing here's the secret that you know that we don't know or women know chicks with cooters know that guys with dicks don't know we think every dick feels different well we think every well to a degree they do right to a degree now you're telling me what they do oh we're getting a divorce no i mean the thing is is that you you have more of a panic thing well i i think for a guy and i can't speak for every guy someone will think i'm not speaking for every guy but for me okay so you like guys that are give me a second okay you like guys that are domineering and uh that are kind of take charge kind of guys right that's generally what you like yeah okay anyways it's an inside joke okay so so the thing is is so when i see another guy in theory being an alpha male with, right? Right. I'm an alpha male. I'm pretty alpha. I'm pretty lying. Are you really? Imagine that. So when I look and I see another guy being all alpha male with you, that kind of raises the cackles on the back of my neck a little bit because that's like, you know, you get to be mouthy to people because if they even if you're being mouthy and it's your fault if they say something back to you i'm gonna kick their ass right because that's what i do so if for all of a sudden to sit there and see that was her peeing for all of a sudden sit there and see to sit there and to sit there and see another guy i bet you are another guy taking and being dominant with you right you know now what should be happening is i shouldn't be paying attention to i'm gonna you should get side glances and stuff because i should be over being dominant and railing his old lady right in theory the problem with guys is we start watching too much shit going on other places okay then all of a sudden we're watching how big his dick is versus how big our dick is. And we're watching how hard he's pounding you versus how hard I'm pounding her. And next thing you know, dicks aren't working. And then you're just sitting there staring at it. And I guarantee whenever your dick doesn't work because of that kind of shit, the other dude's dick's going to work and he is going to rail the fucking living christ out of your old lady where she's going to sit there and look like a horse that has died in the desert because she's come so hard that was newbie stuff it is newbie so so okay but that same thing there's why sometimes for newbies soft swap is better because i don't care i see this on reddit i see it on our page i see it all over the fucking place well how will we know when ready now i'm pretty sure i'm ready to go and do this swinging thing motherfucker until you look over and your old lady has got a dick your size are bigger because every dick's gonna look bigger than yours no matter what because it's on somebody else's body until you look over and you see this seal killer ramming her and she's making noises I'll see you next time. looks bigger than yours no matter what because it's on somebody else's body until you look over and you see this seal killer ramming her and she's making noises that you haven't heard and you didn't even know you didn't even know her voice could make it sounds like a fucking dolphin okay you don't know if you're ready for this or not you fuck i mean that's the god's honest truth i for 20 years 20 years i begged for this i thought i was ready you know what surprise i was wrestling a bear the whole time the first time and still trying to watch and i wasn't ready and all he was doing was laying on top of you for christ's sakes yeah it wasn't impressive because i'll tell you what if you don't know as a guy if you have an imagination or not, watch your wife get fucked by somebody else and don't talk about it. Because your mind will come up. You could go on freaking Sesame Street or Disney as an animator because you're going to have so much imagination at that point in time. You're going to envision that she saw things, she experienced things, you know. Like her world just changed for the first time. Is it true? No. Look look she didn't sneeze because he fucked her so hard she sneezed because she had to sneeze really seriously okay but at the first time you don't know if you're ready so a swap a soft swap is an easier way into it if you don't have a coronary when she's got his dick in her in her mouth you're probably going to be ready to move on to a dick in the cooter or dick in the butt i don't remember that soft swap couple i remember i remember she wasn't bi but i said you were drunk and you were like hey no i said well can i give it a try and she's like sure but i won't reciprocate my fine that's fine by me i don't remember doing anything with him couple no he didn't okay no no no no you did no you did because she gave me a blow job and you gave him a blow job but you start on her and i mean and and here is the thing if you remember you could tell like they contemplated no no pressure on our part we didn't ask we didn't in any way insinuate where he's going uh anything actually he asked about going further and our response both of our responses was that's up to you guys but you could see the wheels turning like going and we both recognize it and we were both it did not it did not progress on and we were both very glad it did not progress on because that's a huge step when you've made the commitment that soft swap is the way we're gonna start when you all of a sudden leap that fence and head right on over into the old fucking zone uh that's a pretty high hurdle if you haven't had a chance to talk about it really prepared you better be really prepared for it you better really there's a lot of ramifications go with it so try to communicate with us stand right there no you look there's way too many things to talk about going from dick sucking to going dick sucking to fucking that you just can't you can't do the other you just can't really do the other other way you know uh yeah it well and uh yeah one of our guys on our live just said the best look if you're not paying when you're first starting stuff if you're when you're first like with soft stop or full swing if you're not looking over your shoulders see everything going on you're not human you're really not because here's the part of what we do this for at least for us us, okay? Yes, it's fun to have sex with other people, but there's an eroticness with it. Watching that, and here's the deal, SoftSwap can be erotic to watch. I mean, you know, I can tell you, it's a little bit harder to make it erotic for us after all these years, SoftSwap. So you have to get creative a little bit. I would say it wasn't that terribly long ago. No, it was about two years ago with that couple, but I'm just saying to make SoftSwap more erotic, you have to change the scenario a little bit. Yeah, I'm going there. Like, you know, she likes outside sex. Parking lots. Random guys. Anyways.
Speaker3:
Okay.
Speaker1:
So that kind of gives.
Speaker3:
No, I'm not ever going to let you have. Flick me up all you want. That's right. I'm never going to let that go. I like I can talk. You're the one that never fires back with. You were fucking the girl.
Speaker1:
You don't know her name on the tailgate.
Speaker3:
Yeah, you don't respond back to that.
Speaker1:
I'd like to meet her again because I think she was really good she apparently also likes outside sex just saying anyways too bad that bar's closed so the biggest thing is this don't judge people if they're into soft swap and they're not into full swap yeah okay how we don't judge people for what they're comfortable with regardless no no and and you shouldn't and and here's the other thing because if you started off doing an actual full swap but you start off with soft swap and they stop right in the middle and go no we can't go any further don't yeah exactly don't don't fucking don't yeah don't you have to regardless when somebody says stop you have to stop and that's the bottom line let me ask you sound guy how are we doing toward towards midway point we got like five minutes okay, so I'm going to do this a little bit different because I don't want to get on one time until I can do a full thought process with this other topic. There's a thought process? Shut it and fuck you. Okay, so I want to throw this in here right now too. When we're talking about soft swap, full swap, and we gave our story of soft swapping with somebody, and look, is a temptation in the lifestyle especially when there's booze involved especially when there's boners involved and throbbing clits involved and nakedness involved and maybe food or pet whatever i don't give a fuck okay when there's weird shit involved to try to encourage someone at the other party to get to where you're at or what you? I'm just going to say this because it goes along with the douchebaggery of that last question, which is if you're the one that's full swap and you're making the exception or you're going something different, you have a responsibility to absolutely respect the boundaries of the other people. Okay. If you're the one doing doing soft swap you have a responsibility no matter what pressure is put on you to stick to your fucking guns okay and i'm going to say this i'm going to say this right now i'm going to say it once and i'll say it a million times actually because i can so this is number one i have a million it'll be 900 999 000 more to go if you use booze as an excuse if you use booze as an excuse or a way to push somebody to do something they don't want to, you're a fucking dick. And if you were at my party, you'd be banned for life. You'd be banned for life from my page. And I would tell every administrator I knew about any other page what a dick you were and get you banned from the lifestyle. If you are a new person and you use booze as an excuse and you got too drunk that that's why you gave in and did shit uh i'm gonna tell you you're a fucking moron and you're not responsible enough mature enough to be in the lifestyle and you need to grow the fuck up and get out until you can because here's the deal any one of us that have ever been went through puberty if you have went through puberty which to be a swinger you should have by now right okay you understand peer pressure and you understand how people will try to get you to do things and you understand how alcohol and drugs helps people make bad decisions think back to the 80s remember the frying pan here's your brain brain on drugs blah nancy reagan said no okay so if as an adult if you're not smart enough to see that that can can taint your decision and you try to use that as an excuse i call bullshit straight up call bullshit i have no sympathy for that because here's the deal if you and i agree we're going to soft swap with another couple i have some cocktails because rumor is i like to have cocktails right and i get all fucked up and you're busy over there going knob goblin on the the knob following the rules and i said i'm too drunk and i start railing her was it really that i was too drunk or was it really that i actually wanted to fuck her and and you know and i pushed it and booze was a convenient excuse so don't look you have, you have to be, it's just an adult activity. You have to be convicted. You have to be solid in your rules and your communication with each other. And as far as the other couple involved, look, it is no means no. We say this, we preach it, blah, all over the place, everywhere in the lifestyle. This is the same thing, which means it's not just that I force you to do it, no means no. It's no badgering. Oh, come on. You don't know till you try it. It's really not that big a deal. It's really not that badgering, hounding kind of trying to push a little too far kind of trying, well, you know, maybe, no, if that's the rules and you know the rules ahead of time, your responsibility to stick to the rules. Okay. And if you're gets tries to get bullied pushed whatever you need to tell the host you need to tell the host and you know and then you don't go back and you're not with that couple a lot of people are notorious for badgering yeah well they'll try to badger and they'll try to hound because it's innocent enough and the other thing is don't put yourself in a situation don't spend the night if you're a soft swap couple yeah don't spend the night play go home play go back to your hotel room don't put it where that then things can magically happen you know there's a there's a concept of being smart and and you know relative about what's going on and having control and it's kind of a downer thing to have to talk about, isn't it? A little bit. But it is what it is. I mean, we have a responsibility. We want everybody to have fun. Okay, awesome. So what we're going to do now, let's take a quick moment if we shall. We're going to take a quick break. Are we actually going to? Crazy Winter Nights, January 19th, the semi-formal hotel takeover, the largest swinger event in the Midwest. If you'd like more information or to be a part of Crazy Winter Nights, contact us at crazy.kazbah at gmail.com. That's crazy, K-R-A-Z-Y.kazbah, K-A-S-B-H at gmail.com. All right, and we are back with the second half of the show all right so for those of you just tuning in we are talking about soft swap full swap swap your bop okay so i want to talk about we had some really great comments that uh came up on our live to the first half of the show i just want to mention a couple of those uh yeah Joe had a great comment. What you need to do if things start getting pressured, number one, people pressure and that equals douchebag. That is exactly right, Joe. You are dead on. He makes a great point. What you need to do is get away, regroup, regroup and reclaim with each other. That's what's important. That's what you have to do. Also, shelly had a great comment as well she put in there uh alcohol is not excuse rules are rules and that's right at no point in time do rules do rules change rules only need to change when there's been discussion ahead of time changing rules on the spot is never never a good idea that is always going to end in disaster. And especially if you have another couple helping you in the involvement of changing the fucking rules. Your rules are your, that's your special, that's like your sacred bond and promise to each other. Okay, so when you have somebody else that's interjecting their opinion of what your rules should be no no it doesn't work that way i don't care if you're a couple i don't care if you're a triad i don't care when you those rules are sacred those are your rules and your rules only and no one should ever take in and and vary from those in the least and if i know somebody else's rules i'll make sure they don't break them exactly exactly well i mean i can't i'm not gonna we're not gonna stop look if you have rules and we know that your rules are no kissing and also if i know your rules are no kissing and all of a sudden i see you macking on somebody i'm not gonna run up and go that's against your rules with that well no but what i'm not gonna do is i'm not gonna walk up and go hey baby and start macking on you because i know that's against the fucking rules and that's not i'm done with a big point i'm not going to do that right there's a common coolness factor there okay so i want to get to this next question that went with this because this is kind of interesting i'm going to be really interested to hear how our live audience responds to this, too.
Speaker3:
This question comes to us.
Speaker1:
This one also comes to us from West Virginia. So, again, everything's on the coast this weekend. Yay. They like us there. Anyways, it's because there was fires in California. Fire. Fire. So, okay. So, the rules are, or the question was, there's rules. The question was, should i be offended if a couple that we originally full swapped with when we hook up with him again they only want to do soft swap and i thought that was a really interesting question now i tried to get a hold of these folks to get more information they never responded to any of my emails okay bless you uh so so
Speaker3:
I don't know. Now, I tried to get a hold of these folks to get more information. They never responded to any of my emails. Okay.
Speaker1:
Bless you. So, so your nose, I watched it anyway. So it's on the tape. Make sure you watch our YouTube channel. See it right. There it is again.
Speaker3:
Repeat.
Speaker1:
It was in slow motion.
Speaker3:
Okay.
Speaker1:
So the thing is, is that I want to try to get more information on this because I don't
Speaker4:
know if they were new couples or if one couple was new or i i don't know any of that that part of it but i thought wow that's that's a hell of a question so this is all yours amanda and all hate mail goes to her just saying well it could be a different scenarios one could be a scenario of they decided that full swap wasn't for them yet. Right. Because they were having issues when they were hooking up more mental issues. Right. Right. That need to be discussed more and have more communication over. Right. Another scenario could mean that they really didn't enjoy it. Yep. there yep and so that's just a nice way to say no we're only changing to this either to hope that they'll change their mind right or they go well never mind we don't want to hook up or it could be a um you know i'm okay with them doing oral but they're not gonna have sex with us because i
Speaker1:
didn't like how they did the first time right i don't know there's there's a lot of different so my thing is and i i the the gist of the question i felt like the heart of how or the the feel of the question was more should they be offended you know like we don't want to fuck you anymore and i guess to a degree it's not it's a look we talk about this all the time you can't lie lying about this shit is a bad thing if you're not interested in hooking up with another couple again what the correct way to deal with it is hey yeah it was great you know we're good and just not hook up with them don't come up with don't come up with lies and excuses you know don't say don't try to hope that if you change it to soft swap or change put all these added rules like you know it has to be on a tuesday and you have to you know rub a banana on your head and dance around and you know don't do that that's just gonna come back to bite you in the ass okay because my first thought went to oh somebody didn't have fun in the sex somebody you know i mean that was the first thing i didn't even think of the other but you know the first was they some rules were broken somewhere along the line or some path was crossed that shouldn't have been which which even if it's that think about this for a minute if if the fact is that some rules were broken okay we had an agreement and i broke those rules and so now this time we're going back to soft swap if if i'm the experienced couple looking at that or the other couple looking at that that's a red fucking flag to me because that means okay you're you can't go back in time and solve that issue that quickly like you're you are setting yourself up to be in a situation where it's going to be tense it's going to be awkward it's going to be you know it's just going to be kind of a bad scene at that point in time because if somebody goes if they make the decision to jump in to do full swap. Personally I don't understand how you can go full swap.
Speaker3:
And then go.
Speaker1:
You know what. We just want oral sex. And said that's better for us. With the same couple. I couldn't do it. There's no way. A different couple. Moving forward. Every couple from then on I could.
Speaker4:
Not necessarily.
Speaker1:
You would have no problem saying
Speaker4:
to a couple that we had had sex with full swap awesome that we've changed our rules and from here on out we're only going soft swap and that includes you you'd have you that wouldn't bother you in the least to say that well i wouldn't say that because no you'd make me say it well what Amanda feels like like no i wouldn't i personally never had that so i wouldn't go back that direction right but if somebody else did i you know if a couple was hounding to hook up again right instead of just blowing them off like i just go okay no you know wasn't worth it you there has been some couples, I'm sorry. It is what it is. It is, yeah. For me, it hasn't been worth it, so I just go, okay, move on. We're just not going to hook up with them again. And they have asked, we've found ways to politely say no. Right. I don't think lying and saying, let's go to SoftSwap is going to make it any better. Well, maybe with that couple, they just want to do to do soft swap now that's weird why is that weird that because there's a reason for that you know what here's the deal the dick sucking was so tremendous i just don't want to stick my dick in your pussy anymore i just want you to suck my dick that's good enough okay so let's go back to the alpha male, so let's go back to the alpha male. Ah, fuck. Yeah. Let's go back to the alpha male. If the guy isn't so dominant, and you are, and they see you with their wife, and they go, oh my gosh, you're not aggressive, but assertive, you're very domineering, and he felt uncomfortable with that, he might be going, well, we can hook up with again but i only want to do oral i i can't handle how he treated you even though it's not mean but yeah but the thing is is here's the deal i'm sorry as a guy as a as that alpha male okay or the jealousy with the female if i didn't like you know you were having too much fun dick i didn't like how he was pounding you you know i can't do that and you enjoyed it too much so okay well let's go back to the alpha male there's so many different scenarios we'll go back to the alpha male part for a second here's the deal from an alpha male standpoint i can watch your pussy being pounded a lot easier than i can watch a dude fucking run his hands up the back of your hair your head get your hair just right you know the way you like it and fucking force your head down on a dick i i could much easier if i was having a trouble with something like that i could much easier watch you getting fucked than watching you get fucking do you know i've never had a guy grab my hair to suck his dick i know you have had me not really because you're not big on if it's me
Speaker1:
i don't get to have the the joy of you choosing my dick over oxygen because you don't like to gag but i'm just saying you know you know what i mean you you know that if it's if it's an aggression thing okay that's pretty damn aggressive yeah okay if it was like the rules were hand jobs Let's do this. you you know that if it's if it's an aggression thing okay that's pretty damn aggressive yeah okay if it was like the rules were hand jobs okay that's one thing that's just you beating him like he owes you money uh you know but if it if it's if it's aggression then no now okay so amy on our live uh comment and this is a good comment uh maybe they're just in the mood for soft swap and has nothing to do with the other couple. Okay, that is a really good point. Now, this kind of ties in because Shelly also commented, as a human being, yes, my ego would be hurt, but yes, maybe rules were broken we didn't know. Okay, so now... But if she was broken, they wouldn't be doing soft. Yeah, they wouldn't be doing soft uh because if they are they damn well better tell somebody because that's a whole other fucking show and i'll get your ass kicked uh okay so let me pose this question to you and to our listeners would should the couple which one the couple that got told that okay we're only going we're only going soft swap okay is it appropriate for that couple to ask why and i'm i'm just curious to see what some responses will be with that one i know how i feel but i have opinions about everything because i'm alpha yeah well by the way tonight when we go bed, I'm pulling your hair when you suck my dick. Oh, whatever. So, I think to a degree some people would ask why. Should they, though? I would just blow it off and go, you know, okay, that's fine. Well, and that's the thing. I mean, there's different ways. You can ask politely. It depends on how well you know them. Well, you knew well you knew them well enough to fuck really okay but here's the thing really didn't you just talk about you'd like to know who that girl is that you had sex with on the tailgate hey look i also believe in advocate sport fucking okay i'm trying to look at this from the current world okay you and i still we're old school swingers we believe in the concept of this is sport fucking. That is what it is. Send your hate mail. Don't fucking care. It's sport. It's fucking for fun. It's sport fucking, right? The thing is, is that now there's a lot of people that do the whole date and they're so busy dating that and looking for relationships. I'm doing a whole bunch of quotes right now too, just so everybody knows uh but the thing is is is that that they should if you ask okay and nancy brings a point no you should respect their decision uh brian says no not really that's the way they choose to do right now i kind of agree with that because here's the other part if you ask what do i always say don't ask a fucking question if you unless you want to hear the truth right so if you ask the question if you say okay hey was it something that i did it was it something we did you might better be prepared to hear the answer well here's the deal uh you have a small penis and i didn't get off on it at all and you know your wife was a dead fish lame fuck i mean that that granted now that's an extreme i was gonna say i can't see you saying that to somebody i would never say that somebody you would never say that to somebody okay we would come up we would say you know it it was enjoyable but you know we're we're making some decisions and changes whatever we wouldn't lie but we wouldn't we wouldn't just be douchebags but you have to understand there are some people that are going to be like motherfucker you want another reason i'll tell you the reason so you have to be ready to to hear that i kind of lean more towards uh just respect their decision just because of the fact of again it's as i said earlier if you choose soft swap and that's a thing, you're under no obligation to justify or explain yourself at all. And the thing is, and you shouldn't. And the same thing with this. If you change your mind or change how you want to play with a certain couple, you're not under any requirement to explain yourself. understand if you're the person that's changed your mind do not be surprised if that couple says no thank you because if the couple you know you guys were both full swap couples and now all of a sudden you're going a different path rock on that's you you do you but don't expect me just because to go ahead and go down the to go down the same go down the same path i mean that it just doesn't work that way at all so i mean you have to under you have to you have to understand that and and be with that i think the problem that probably happens and i it would happen with me is that again remember that whole imagination thing louisville sluggers and all that shit okay it's the same imagination thing when you hear something like that you're automatically going to go to all kinds of extremes you're i mean your brain is going to just run rapid you're going to be like you know i'm a big guy was it because i put too much weight on her she couldn't breathe and she started to turn into a smurf and did i break a rib well you know what was it you know did she not like some people are into dirty talk did she not like that i was talking dirty did she you know uh there's gonna be a million things that your brain is gonna go with i think at some point in time in this lifestyle you have to just be willing to go okay it is what it is and move on because look if you try to psychoanalyze every time someone tells you no or every time something changes you will be batshit crazy in no time right because i mean think of how many people reject us on a daily basis to have sex thousands thousands that's complete fucking lie nobody even asked think money we reject not a fucking one send in your request cards anyway so the but i mean no think about all the times think about all the times that we have flirted flirted and it didn't go anywhere okay if we let that bother us you know what we wouldn't have a lifestyle page we wouldn't be having crazy winter nights coming up we wouldn't have a podcast i'm trying to see the negative no i mean we we we would have you know you'd be out of the lifestyle right you just totally be out of the lifestyle with it so i mean that's that's part of it that you just you know you can't you can't let it like just consume you and and just okay you'll just you'll you'll go nuts yeah you really will now i think if there's a pattern like if every time you hook up with a couple the next email includes well we've changed to soft swap you're doing something wrong at that point in time you might want to reevaluate what exactly it is you're doing now maybe sometimes you're in the mood for it well exactly but again you should again, you should disclose all that. Yeah. You should disclose all that ahead of time. Yeah, I don't know. Something probably was else up with that. Probably. You know what it was? She fucked like a dead fish. Just saying. I don't know. It's probably, yeah. What about that one question that you were talking to me about yesterday which one which one was a good one the friends oh yeah the friend yeah yeah you want you want to do that one it's all i don't know if i can well ish they well you have to remind me exactly how it went because they were friends and they were
Speaker4:
trying to venture a little bit further.
Speaker1:
Yep.
Speaker4:
But they weren't doing full swap.
Speaker3:
Right. Okay.
Speaker1:
So what it was, we had a couple that came to us from Minnesota, Minnesota, and what the scenario was, was that they had, there was two couples, they'd been friends for for a long time the all four of them had been friends as couples and one drunken night they'd started talking about you know those this wife had the hots for this wife and and you know maybe that could go somewhere at some point in time well then they kept talking about it when they were sober and decided well they're going to make this happen but they there had set all kinds of rules they said all kinds of rules it was going to be and i don't think this is this isn't officially a soft swap okay this would be they were what they were the plan was was to have same room sex that was going to be a same room sex, but the girls could experiment a little bit. Okay. Okay. So, so no. room sex that was gonna be a same room sex but the girls could experiment a little bit okay okay so so not i mean even a step further back than soft swap and what happened classic scenario everybody started drinking and started drinking too much and then the juices start flowing and the fun starts happening and it starts off and both individual couples are fucking their own partner like they're supposed to be that's all great and they're both fucking doggy style and then the girls start making out while they're fucking and all of a sudden the one wife she's all over with the one girl and the one and the and making out with the guy so already ruled first thing there had already been a rule broke there because it wasn't supposed to be contact with between the separate guys and wives that was broken when the guy that was left out tried to kiss the girl that was that was. She ignored him. So now it's turned into basically a threesome happening. And he's like, okay, well, she'll come back to me. It'll be all right. And when he tried to go back to fucking his wife, she was all caught up in the moment and nothing. And so this went on according to their letter. The email went on for about 40 minutes. And then after 40 minutes was all kinds of upset obviously the husband had been left out and the wife tried to make things get up and keep going and it wouldn't and he apparently he didn't go into details on how he let his emotions show but he let his emotions show and what it was turning out to be was he was the bad guy his wife said i told you this is a bad idea all the way through we should never have done this uh the other couple now doesn't really can't talk to him it's all awkward embarrassing he's the bad guy and he's trying to figure out what the fuck he did wrong all because he was pissed off and my response back to him was you had every fucking right to be pissed and really what it ties into even is that it's rules it goes back to fucking rules you can't break the rules in the heat of moment and that's what happened when you start breaking the rules here's the thing probably if he hadn't got all pissy there'd been a few more rules been broken what would ended up happening was he was gonna sit there with a limp dick and watch his old lady get fucking railed by his friend that's where that was headed like a fucking freight train okay so she used the excuse of booze of course again that was everybody back to the booze and excuses for booze and everything else and it's like again you have to discuss you have to you can't break rules and re-examine rules you know in in the in the mid-process of stuff right okay so and and that's you know yeah you're right it ties in because it ended up turning into it what it turned into was a clusterfuck and that's exactly what we were talking about earlier with with a couple that is in a full swing versus a couple that's in a soft swap it doesn't turn into a great experience it turns into a clusterfuck there's a huge huge difference there right okay so and that kind of brings me back around to that kind of what i wanted to we were talking about why and what really almost more descriptive of of why people go with the soft swap first okay and what the what the true definitions of where shit is that okay does that make any sense where yes where it is uh okay so we've talked about soft swap and we've talked about how important the rules are we're trying to give you examples of how important the rules are there are other things that some people like try to lump into soft swap and that's things like having sex same room sex that is not soft swap that is two couples having sex with their own significant others so it's like being involved in a live porno there's no touching going on in between in that same room sex same room sex okay right okay but some people will try to lump that into soft swap they'll say well it's all a form of soft swap it's all a form of there's no swapping right but they'll say there could be incidental contact or you know a girl touched another girl boob or whatever the case may be no it's two couples having sex in the same room that's what it is okay why would i make a big deal about this why would this be a big issue that we want to enter or interject with soft swap look if you don't understand what soft swap is or full swap is and you just know these terms out there if you walk up to us and you say to a couple hey we've been in lifestyle six months okay so you're not a newbie all right you kind of you're you are still a newbie but you're not like this is our first time so we run away you know you're you're kind of a newbie and you yeah you know we're in a full swap okay our definition what full swap is we're gonna go back to the hotel room and you know you and i probably aren't gonna touch each other the rest of the night while we're with that couple i'm not gonna come up and start making out with you first i'm gonna start making out with her you're gonna start fucking around with him that you know or maybe with her well you can flip-flop back and forth you can flip-flop we, but you know what I mean? We're thinking that we're going to be having sex with the significant others.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
We're not thinking any other way. So if you are a, if what you actually want is you want to take and have soft swap with some contact, okay, that's a totally different ballgame. you need to specify that because you're gonna have confusion okay if you walk in and you go hey we've been doing this six months a year whatever yeah we're a soft swap couple and you're hooking up with another soft swap couple and what you really mean is you just want to have same same room sex you're gonna have a problem on your hands yeah okay so you you kind of have to you have to know what you're talking about a little bit this is where it does not pay to fake it till you make it no okay this is a great way to you know but you learn those terms and stuff as you go along because you don't know when you first go in no you don't but that's just it if you don't know the terms that's okay don't try to act like you do that's where it's okay to say what what do we want well what we want is we want to us to have sex with each other and that's it don't try to use a term just be honest that you don't know so you make sure you explain exactly what you what it is that you want so if you yeah if you start to watch so if you don't know uh what you want or if things start to take a turn an unexpected twist okay and it goes from beyond what you want you need to say now we need to stop we'll see that's what shelly just said she said rules can always be re-examined but everyone has to be willing to take the time out in the heat of the moment unfortunately when that when that doesn't happen, alcohol is a good excuse. It is. And here's the other thing. I want to touch on this with rules again because we talk about it a lot. And I know it's kind of downer. But it's not, but it's kind of fun. Here's the thing. When you try to adjust rules on the fly, I'm thinking one thing. We've been together 26 years. We know pretty much what each other is thinking on a lot of things a lot of things when it comes to sex when it comes to swinging we still don't change the rules on the fly do we because we've made that mistake once everybody had and we were completely fucking night and day different on what we were thinking these two people that can finish each other's sentences like you know what i'm thinking like once i'm thinking this fucking dog won't shut up okay you know what i'm thinking we can finish sentences but when it comes that we can't right so the thing is you have to take and if the original plan for that night was to go soft swap only there'll be other parties okay if you don't get to fuck anybody or you don't get to hook up with anybody because there's nobody else to hook up with to do soft swap that's okay change those fucking rules when you get home the next day you can talk about go you know what we're not getting any action this way we want to or whatever the case may be where you can talk about it and this way when i go well we want a full swap and you go wait a minute i don't want a full swap or i'm okay with xyz you know you want to know little things before you jump to full swap there are couples you say full swap that means all three of your orifices are open for business yeah no no exactly so you don't want to switch you don't you have to take the time to to actually think this through and if if there's okay and you guys that listen to me live right now you can jump in and tell me if you think i'm fucking stupid but here's the deal if you guys have been talking about changing the rules and you're kind of close to changing the rules it's still not a good idea to change them at an actual event no just if you decide later that you want to try hooking up with them because it was a really big turn on contact the couple again right right absolutely hey you know we really had fun we really like to take it a step further would you be willing to right because you already know them by that point and if their comfort level all of a sudden at the very last minute they go no we can't do this and we go all right stop absolutely okay so the the other thing i want to talk with this and how we're doing on time about five we're good no you're like over oh we're good we're good we'll go longer okay the other thing they wanted that we they that you necessarily want to make sure to understand is newbies. Do not have the mistake to think that just because it's soft swap, you won't have to deal with the same issues the first time you do it as you would with a full swap. Don't think you still won't have mental issues and dealing with that you're going to have to take and handle. So I just wanted to throw that cautionary thing out there real quick was a lot of people go in their quest to just dip their toes in it when they're dipping they go well then we won't have any of the baggage to deal with look anytime your genitalia your dick her pussy whatever is out and in play with somebody other than you you're gonna have baggage to deal with so don't don't base soft swap being the only reason to do it just because well that should be easier in the long run it won't be and and it still won't be the same as when the first time you take in and you know fuck somebody else just saying hey i want to throw a real quick in here uh for a list of terms make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel when this video goes on our YouTube channel, which is www.youtube.com backslash C backslash Casbah. You will actually will have the terms listed and what they mean right on there. So make sure you watch our podcast on YouTube channel. All right, guys. 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