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Speaker1: Hey kids, the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations, adult language, themes, and other adult topics. If you're easily offended, this show's not for you. 736. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth. I'm your host with the most. I'm Cole. I'm here with the lovely, lovely, and absolutely work to a frazzle, little Cinderella, Miss Amanda. Who? Cinderella. Cinderella. Not who. Say hey. Hey. She'll be trying on slippers later. Maybe her Prince Charming will show up out of nowhere and fucking peddle her to freedom. Anyways. No, but Workboy got a job closer to where I work again. Sweet. There's dick in your future. So real quick, though, we'll talk about your dick in a minute. Real quick. I have a dick? No, well, sort of. You've got two right now. This is season four episode 185 we're coming we're we're speed racing towards the end of season uh four yeah yep something like that we've got like this show this is december we only have three more shows for this season and then we'll be on to season five wow fuck what the fuck What the fuck? Anyways, also real quick, why people still care? People care. Right in the line of my teleprompter. Look around at Jack House. Let's give a shout out to our paid sponsors. First and foremost, do you want better sex? Of course you do. And we want you to have better sex. Why? Because we want to have better sex. And how do you do it? You go-o-m-e-s-c-e-n-t.com from essence.com today check out their entire line of products to improve your sex life everything from vitamins which i take delay sprays which i've used condoms lubes rubs all sorts of stuff wipes the whole nine yards, 60-day money-back trial. KK15 gets you 15% off your order. Don't delay checking them out today. Also, don't forget Smart Swingers. What do they do? They read. Sure as hell do. I'll be damned. And they read asnlifestylemagazine.com. Three million swingers can't be wrong. Check it out. If you want to the what's happening in both the adult uh world in terms of like adult porn business world and the lifestyle world asm lifestyle magazine is the place to be it's like green acres and there's a song that goes with it anywho uh there you go and finally you've listened to the you've read the mag you've listened to the show come on fuckers buy some holiday swag that's. Don't forget to visit fullswapshop.com today to check out all the cool things. There's some new shit on there. There's new stuff. How do I know? I just worked with them today. Check it out. Make sure you get your support, our show, and other shows as well. Now, wasn't that a prime thing? You know what else we've got to record tonight? Well, more tomorrow, whatever. We have to record our holiday greeting for Full Swap Radio from Crazy Truth. Really? That's just your eye roll. That'll get us in the holiday spirit. Are those bells? No, that's just Amanda's eyes rolling around in the back of the head, fucking annoyed, fucking silly with her husband. Just saying.
Speaker2:
I didn't say a word.
Speaker1:
Just saying. You know, it has been a crazy time. I don't know what I was going to say with that. Anyways, it doesn't really matter. I'm still sleep deprived, so I've been running around. I spent a bunch of time. We had the holidays, just clusterfucks everything, and then health shit, medical health shit, not mine, but family, just clusterfucks everything. And, yeah, it's been something else. It's been fucking.
Speaker3:
90 miles an hour.
Speaker1:
Oh, shit, man. It's like slow down, take a second, breathe. It's just, oh, my Lord. That kind of shit, I'm telling you what. It will absolutely fucking send you over the edge.
Speaker3:
Spiraling.
Speaker2:
It feels like a nutty week.
Speaker1:
Oh, fucking. It's just getting started. We've only just begun.
Speaker3:
Oh, my God.
Speaker2:
How many songs can we bring up today?
Speaker3:
A lot.
Speaker1:
An absolute lot. And, you know, here's the cool thing. What up, David? So here's the cool thing. Don't forget we do this in front of our live studio audience on the very, very secret Facebook page, KazBank. Shh. Don't tell the others. I sound like someone from the Lord of the Rings right there. Or I sound like fucking the Emperor. I'm kind of hot tonight. The Emperor. Anyways, check us out. I don't remember what I was saying with that, But that's what I do So So they're going to be firing in with questions as well Which is always awesome And exciting You don't know where things are going to go It can take a turn for the dark side So you were going to do a show But you didn't do a show No because I forgot Oh I know what I was going to talk about. You want to know what's really funny. So, boy, my mic is really hot tonight. I'm just spewing hotness. Anyway, so. You are. So, yeah, I don't know why that is. I don't. No, that's not going to do it. Because I'm going to move towards it. Anyways, so I have to say, you know, it's awesome. I occasionally get naked pictures. And my mom wanted to see some of the cool things that we get. And so I showed her one. And she goes, well, are there other pictures of the other gals? You showed her a mostly clothed. No, a fully clothed one of one of our cadets that they sent me and i said yeah there are but i'm not going to show them to you she said why are they are they naked pictures i'm like yeah she goes what i like naked pictures and i was like what so yeah so my mom was thought to the cadets she thought you're all very very cute so there go. That's top ten conversations I didn't think I was ever going to be having with my mother. But that's all right. So, there you go. So, you know, and she is very excited to see you all in your gowns for Crazy Winter Nights, too. So, she's super excited for that. And she's like, oh, they'll be so cute for the calendars. Is she coming to the event? She's not right now, as of right now, no, but she's super excited for that and she's like oh that'll be so cute for the calendars she's not right as of right now no uh but she's like you know she's like i could wear my beaded gown you know one beaded gown she'd love to she would love to and uh but she's like yeah and she's excited she thinks the calendar is a great idea because she thinks all of our cadets are hotties and cuties and should all that'd be great in the calendar so my mom will be coordinating that for you so just so you know cadets there you go yep 49 years old never thought i'd have that conversation anyways uh but that's all right that's cool i'm glad we did that's awesome so there you go but miss amanda was going to run this show the whole thing was going to be she's like well i'm just going to record an episode myself i don't even need you in it so here why sit yeah but i didn't i didn't i forgot and then i didn't come wouldn't it be funny if i forgot you have forgotten what to come over for a show shut up they didn't know that we've done 185 times and they didn't know that but now they do it's awesome i don't ever you you know what and we're getting people right now they're all like going uh like yes your mom sound my mom sounds awesome she is i'm at can't wait for kwn yeah yeah and and um you know what's funny with my mom i'm gonna tell this story this is totally vanilla story long before we were in the lifestyle long before we were ever in the lifestyle at our wedding one of my one of my best friends at college we call them the cowboys yes there you go and he got fucking drunk as did most of us okay well i mean we all got fucking train wreck stupid drunk he blatantly was hitting on my mom looking down her dress looking down her dress blatant flat out flat flat out said to my mom in front of my dad and my brother, you know, if this doesn't work out, and they'd been married for like, you know, 30 years, if this doesn't work out, you know, I sure would be interested. I'm just like, wow. And she laughed and said, what a nice young man, what a nice compliment. Fuck. And I'm like, if he gets a chance, he'll fuck you. So he ended up, you know what's funny? He ended up that night taking the bartender, and he didn't know at the time, and her daughter home. And they wanted to have a threesome with him, and he got freaked out because his mom and daughter both wanted to fuck him. And bailed and couldn't, didn't know where he was at in downtown Omaha. Yeah. So yes, my mom is a, I had to fucking bang that one right straight out of the park. Anyways, cause they were blondes. Just FYI. Just saying. I remember. So if you are and you're a nurse and by the way, so I was making the and and when i was because mom has been up in the hospital so i've been making jokes and i put on the page about because i have a thing for nurses we all know i have a thing for nurses i'm not shy about it and apparently i'm going to tell mom she needs to go to a different hospital because more of the response is of well you're at the wrong hospital a bunch of nurses on our page are at other hospitals, so I'm going to tell mom next time. We're going to a different one. We're going to check with the page first because I'm going to go knock some out of the park. Because, yeah. I actually think I can just be like, hey, mom, here's the deal. Because she's currently looking for nurses with black rings. She asked me, no, she asked me because she actually finally asked me if my black ring, if that was the black ring for swingers. I said, yes. And so she figured out, she goes, well, I thought it was on the side, not your wedding hand side. I said, yes, because she was telling me a news guy, a weather guy, has a black ring on his non-wedding hand. And so she was wondering. By the way, my mom's afraid to buy pineapples now and i had a store she like sneaks them out because she's afraid somebody i think she's wearing but anyway so she i'm totally lots of nurses and medical people so she goes well i'm gonna start looking at the nurse's fingers and stuff and and so as nurses came in while i was still there you could totally see her checking out their hands and stuff and this one gal had her one hand because she goes that's a pretty ring can I see your ring to have her put her hand out there so yeah
Speaker3:
so my mom is going to end up finding checking out their hands and stuff. And this one gal had her one hand because she goes, that's a pretty ring. Can I see your ring?
Speaker1:
To have her put her hand
Speaker3:
out there.
Speaker1:
So, yeah.
Speaker3:
Wow.
Speaker1:
So my mom is going to end up finding somebody and she's going to be like, do you know my son? And so, yeah, I'll apologize now. But hopefully mom can be my wingman and mom, I'll be right back.
Speaker3:
I've got to go.
Speaker1:
Fuck a nurse.
Speaker3:
Whatever.
Speaker1:
Oh my God.
Speaker2:
Oh my God.
Speaker1:
Yeah, so there you go. Just the world corner. So what do you want
Speaker4:
to talk about tonight,
Speaker3:
pumpkin? I don't know. I've got to go fuck a nurse. Whatever. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, so there you go. Just a world corner. So what do you want to talk about tonight, pumpkin? I don't know.
Speaker1:
Penises.
Speaker2:
Penises.
Speaker1:
Penises.
Speaker3:
I want to talk penises? Do you want to talk penises or do you want to talk vaginas? Do you want to educate?
Speaker1:
Do you want to educate? Because you said your thing was that you wanted to help if guys had specific questions. Most guys are going to have questions about badges because they don't have one. But maybe you can tell everything you know about penises to help guys. What are the things you would tell for a guy to enhance his penal presence? That's what we're going to call it. You are a dick. We're going to call it the I'm not No No I wasn't ready for any of this You're not going to throw this on me now No It's not really throwing it on you It's kind of shooting it on you Yeah, it kind of Spool it all over the place No Mangina is for the win So So no We're not going to fucking go there now Okay So what could you What would you like to tell guys About Vaginas for the win. So no, we're not going to fucking go there now. Okay. So what would you like to tell guys about vaginas? I'm just saying. Look, we are an educational show. It's coming towards the end of it. We haven't started drinking yet. We're coming towards the end of the season. This is the shit that's going to springboard this show to the next level for season five. The most season of a show Is season 5 I don't know if that's true or not So what you have to say What your cock holster says Is going to be the most important thing Okay here's a question for it No it's not What's the funniest Name you've heard for either fucking genitalia mouth or anything else in the lifestyle you call it a fucking cock holster nobody knows that cock holster come dumpster baby carrier some people call it a car seat. Just saying.
Speaker3:
Have you ever thought about this for just a quick second? This is just totally, this is going to be one of these shows. Just a random thought here for a second. Think if sperm were bigger, okay? Picture this for a second. You're picturing a sperm in your brain right now.
Speaker1:
Everybody close your eyes.
Speaker3:
Picture a sperm. Now picture a sperm with the same size as tadpoles. And now picture a guy shooting his load in your mouth. Oh, we got some good names going. Purple Head Yogurt Slinger. There you go. Cooter. I say cooter.
Speaker2:
You do say cooter. But I don't like hoo-ha. What's funny is... Because it's not a word. It's a hoo-ha.
Speaker1:
Actually, I thought you ate there, but then I realized that's hoo-ha. And so I was always wrong. But you can eat there too.
Speaker3:
Hoo-ha?
Speaker1:
Or hoo-ha. I don't know what I've been there once. You've been there more than I've seen you. Hoo-ha No. Who hot. Here's what's so funny. There are certain words, when you say them, they just hit my ears totally wrong. Seriously. It's like, I just go, it just sounds, it just sounds. Like what? When you say cooter, it's funny to me because it's like, I don't know. It doesn't, when you say vag or vagina, that's not a big, it's like, oh, yeah, whatever. When I say vagina.
Speaker2:
I say that to the doctor, I call it a vag.
Speaker1:
Yeah, when I say vagina, hey, how's your vagina? That to me sounds like, ah, but, you know.
Speaker2:
It's dorky, it's too formal.
Speaker1:
Right, but some words, there's some things that people, purposely now I'm saying purple. There's some things that when people say it, it just comes out weird. It just sounds weird. Picture your mom going, how's your cooter? What did Beth say her grandmother called the gynecologist? Oh, fuck, what was it? Our pussy doctor. Picture your grandmother going going So you're going to the pussy doctor I love it Yeah no
Speaker2:
No that would totally No
Speaker1:
No what What are you going to do
Speaker2:
You'd actually spell it out
Speaker1:
That's because I grew up a place You weren't going to go take a shit You were going to go up a PM Yeah really medical I don't know how we got there That's fucked up Thank you.
Speaker2:
Thank you.
Speaker1:
Thank you.
Speaker2:
Thank you.
Speaker1:
Thank you. Thank place where, you know, you weren't going to go take a shit, you were going to go have a PM. Yeah, really medical. I don't know. Whatever. I don't know how we got there. That's fucked up. So let's talk about your boyfriend. I have a boyfriend? Well, kind of. I don't know if he knows it. It's been a long-distance relationship since he quit his job. It's been non-existent. Okay, but no, this is actually awesome. So, what's not awesome, but it's, that sounded horrible. But, okay, because we hear this all the time, right? This is the whole title thing. Entitlement? No, title. Put in the title stuff. I was the first one to call him your boyfriend. I think after 15 months, your boyfriend girlfriend. Yeah, but he kind of ended that. No, I think he just... I don't think he understands that he ended that. Are you going to invite him back into your cooter? Into your love fold? Well, I'd still take him as a fuck, buddy. And to your luscious lips.
Speaker3:
Oh, I got to hear from him all day today. You know, I really miss seeing you. I really miss touching you. I really miss being with you. Me. Unless I actually have to come over to your house. That's fucking funny. So, but, okay, so, but will you. But he hasn't come over here before, so it's not like a big shock. Will, will you, are you going to keep the relationship the same? Because how, when was the last time you guys fucked? Seriously. When did we go to Mississippi? M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I. September 10th? Yes. So, okay, so are you going to roast beef sandwich? Oh, my God, that's funny. Are you going to? Ew. In a swimming pool, it's a manor, it's a stingray. Yeah, that's funny. I don't like it when you do that. It's disturbing. Anyway, you should be swimming up to that. Oh, my God's going to close out Anyways, so So when you start to So when you start to When you start to re If you guys fuck, you're going to fuck again We know you're going to fuck He thinks things are like On same place they were before. You're obviously not meat curtains. Oh, pause this bitch. Okay. Because yesterday he was trying to throw the guilt card out. He was trying to throw the guilt card out? Yeah. For what? You being willing to fuck him? No, because I called him out saying that I was really kind of disappointed that he didn't come over here because I was really hoping he would. And so I got the guilt card back of, well, it seems like I always disappoint you. Did you say, yes, you are correct? I said, well, there are times. Man, see, this is great. After 30 years, I knew what would happen with that sort of thing. That's a dumb maneuver. I quit doing that years ago. Don't try to throw guilt things out there to make me feel guilty because no. Okay, all right.
Speaker1:
So Becky has a legit question. So can you explain why there is titles if you're still allowed to play with others?
Speaker3:
I think that, well, I think human nature, people want,
Speaker1:
And in the lifestyle, they want some sort of like clarity. It's kind of like a pack of dogs. No, I don't. I don't agree with that, but go ahead. Nobody cares. It's like a pack of dogs. Somebody has to be the alpha. The other dogs want to know who the alpha is. So in a swinger thing, it's like, well, what are we? You know, and that's why there's some sort of titles, I think. No, I think that the younger generation all has to have titles to everything. I don't think the younger ones are as bad as us older people. Seriously. Well, think about it because, okay you have when you have when we first started out in the lifestyle you didn't hear about all this poly stuff well it's not that it wasn't there it wasn't there but not and allow me allow me to take just a moment we're not bashing on poly in any way shape or form well you said it all this poly stuff like fucking let's not piss off the entire branch of the tree no i'm sorry it's been a long time 12 hours we got that part so i've been up since four fuck off people like to hear our friendly banter not our continellas coming out just saying anyways look it's cause not me it hasn't been it hasn been me. Anyways, I think though, people like you, there's clarity there. If there's a title with it, then there's also boundaries that are easily set. When there's no title, it's a gray area. When it's a gray area, there's no boundaries. When there's no boundaries, shit can get weird. Well, but if some people have to have labels to it, it's committing to a relationship that you're not necessarily wanting. Then you shouldn't be in it.
Speaker2:
You know, a fuck buddy. Well, I only call him that because he's vanilla.
Speaker1:
Well, right.
Speaker2:
So to me, he's a fuck buddy. But if I had a swinger person that I hooked up regularly with, I wouldn't call them a fuck buddy.
Speaker1:
What would you call him?
Speaker3:
Thank you. So to me he's a fuck buddy But if I had a swinger person that I hooked up regularly with I wouldn't call them a fuck buddy What would you call him? Just somebody I play with a lot But it's not necessarily a boyfriend Because we might not click on the same mental level That's like saying saying, if it's a vanilla, you'll call it a Ford.
Speaker1:
But if it's a swinger, you'll just say, a car. What the fuck? That makes absolute, what the fuck? No. And no, Becky, no, I know you're not bashful. I just got to watch her because she was kind of popping off there.
Speaker2:
No, I was being stupid.
Speaker1:
But no, but, okay, so some people would say, and I understand this Thank you. I just got to watch her because she was kind of popping off there. No, I was being stupid. But no, but okay, so some people would say, and I understand this because this would make sense, in the lifestyle it would be even more important to have clarity on exactly what it is. You're fucking, instead of just friends with benefits, that's a gray area. How are you supposed to, if you don't, I mean, yes, we can function in that. I call it your boyfriend because it's funny and it antagonizes the fuck out of you.
Speaker3:
Right? Right.
Speaker1:
You know, but we're not like most people. We don't do things like most people.
Speaker2:
Right, because we don't click on that.
Speaker1:
Are you following along with me? Did you take your heroin before we got on the air or what oh my lord i no i i no i just i don't like it being labeled my boy you because it has to be a reciprocated feeling. But at one time, there was a feeling. Or as Boston says, there's more than a feeling. I'm just saying. There were some emotions attached, yes. And you fought that. But he fucked that up. Well, I understand that. Just because he fucked it up doesn't mean that there wasn't a relationship more than just a fuck buddy. No, but it bumped him back down to fuck buddy. Well, and I understand that it's a sliding scale and that that can work that you level up and sometimes you lose lives and you level back down. I get that, I guess. Basically, what we're telling people is swinging is a lot like chutes and ladders. So sometimes you're climbing up the ladder and sometimes you hit a slide and down you go. But the point I'm trying to get to, at one time, the concept of boyfriend was a very accurate title. Yes. Well, was it or not? Pretty much. No, we've had this conversation. I know we have. He's your maintenance man. You two were banging it out for 15 months. Yeah. There was emotion. You also, you didn't just get together and fuck. Because there were times at work you went and snuck off and made out. There were times you went and fucked. There were times you went and got a hotel room and fucked. There were times you just hung out. There were times you guys went and just met and chatted after work that you didn't fuck. That's not a fuck buddy. That's not a friends
Speaker2:
with benefits. But the one in the car at the park?
Speaker1:
Well, that, yeah. Well, I don't know where all you went. Which time did we meet just to chat? I don't know. You met at some parking lot somewhere at some point. I didn't document it because I didn't care. I mean, really. All I'm saying is there were times that you guys would, a friends with benefit is, hey, what up? Hey, what up? And you're staking off your clothes. You bang it out, and then you go your separate ways. When it's more than that, when there's other communication differently with it or more to it, that is emotion. And with emotion is relationship. And that's not bad. But if you don't acknowledge that there's a relationship there, that there's, there's, now you guys are fuck buddies. Cause now you can walk in and like fuck and leave and who cares? He's still trying to be more than that but you guys are fuck buddies because now you can walk in and like fuck and leave and who cares he's still trying to be more than that but you guys texted every morning okay whether you fucked or not every single morning morning baby you would text during the day you would text him are you having a good day when he was at work on the weekends because of the business that you guys are in, and you won't work, you would text him to see how his day was going. That's not a fuck buddy in any way, shape, or form. That is a relationship. I didn't say it was a serious boyfriend, but it's still more than just a fuck buddy. Would you agree with that statement? and here's the thing there's nothing okay so in the lifestyle there's a huge problem with people getting too fucking carried away with titles I get it but I think it's a bigger problem if you don't acknowledge like when you have feelings when if you try to pretend there's no feelings there you're you're not i'm not talking just us i'm just saying with in the lifestyle i lived this path i did this fucking stupid shit where i tried to you can't be friends and talk because i had well well wait you can because there was somebody that we're friends with and and at At one point in time he goes I don't think you can be friends and fuck and not have it ruin your relationship I said you're wrong because we're swingers and we can fuck but still be friends yes I think you have conversations but it didn't make it a relationship but you also it wasn't you also didn't have we would get together at times and there was for months and months and no sex you didn't it wasn't, you also didn't have, we would get together at times and there was for months and months and no sex. You didn't, it wasn't, it didn't look like a dating relationship. What I don't want the confusion is, is I don't want to label him as a boyfriend because then other people think that they have to get his permission to have sex. No, that would be your husband. Well, but, okay okay but you had a girl walk up to you and said i know you have this girlfriend do i need to ask for her permission also yes and and what was my answer it would be i denied that i had a girlfriend i said no and that which is part of the reason that got all fucked up right but so if i have a husband and you're calling him my boyfriend then another guy would get confused if he wanted to fuck me and thought he'd have to ask both people but the other guy's vanilla so how does that really fit well true this is why this is why there's a definition of roles this is why it's important because she put a long explanation. Okay. What? Where? What? Are you going to read it? What are you doing? Well, things got skee-jawed on the list of stuff because as people comment, they go away. Gotcha. Here's the thing. Is that I think all I'm saying is we preach communication. And I think that it is to just label shit always as fuck buddy or regular playmate is, can be, not is, can be dangerous. Because that's when you're in denial of feelings, that's when all of a sudden it's like, oh, that snuck up out of nowhere, and that turns into homewrecking and shit. Right. But in the swinger world, I wouldn't want labels. But wouldn't it be as more important in the swinger? Wouldn't there be some degree of importance of having it in the swinger world so that it... If you had it, yes, it important okay we're not talking about you i get you you're a different ball game i can tell you if you don't have it if you don't have it it can it can mine's gonna be hold on let's read what this says uh that's what i mean if there is a relationship between two people and one is allowed to play and one is not playing currently uh that is what i'm asking is that when the boundaries come in yes that i well no what okay one of the hardest things to do with all this this shit and and really it is especially when there's a friends with benefit, one, you should never keep score. That's almost impossible.
Speaker2:
Well, it also depends on what's your dynamic of your relationship to begin with.
Speaker3:
Yes.
Speaker1:
Because earlier, somewhere I read somebody had a dom and a boyfriend and so then it becomes different dynamics. Well, and yes, and that's when you have when you have the kink world again, it's kind of funny because in the kink world, they have titles. Everything has a title. Brats, littles, doms, subs, everything is titled out in the swinger world. we're all like willy-nilly with it and and here becomes the challenge is that when you have boyfriend girlfriend friends with benefits whatever you want to call it when you're in a couple when unless you're in a cuck or a hot wife type situation it can be very challenging when one is playing and the other one currently doesn't have that other significant other, that other side significant other, side piece. Significant, but not as significant. Secondarily significant, almost as significant as their significant other on the side. There it is. So it can get very, very challenging. Usually people call it primary, secondary. But it can get very fucked up and very challenging at that point in time because then it becomes a thing of, well, I'm always off playing. And what would be a normal, okay, you're hanging out with your friends with benefits normally okay if you also have a friends with benefits that I'm going to play and you're going to play all of a sudden you're sitting at home now all of a sudden that changes the dynamic but if you have a clear relation you have a clear title for a relationship if i say boyfriend or girlfriend there's certain connotations that goes in your mind of what that means what if if you're okay with me having a girlfriend okay we'll try it this way you're all right with me having a girlfriend and i have a girlfriend you know my girlfriend you're friends with my girlfriend maybe you fucked my girlfriend okay time or two who knows whatever the case may be and you know a time or two whatever the case may be but when i say hey my girlfriend and i are going to go we're going out tonight you're going to be less apt to go boy you're never home with me why can't you tell her no because you understand it's my girlfriend there's a set of relation there's relationship status that goes with it if it's my fuck buddy friends with benefit play partner random stranger that i occasionally hook up with someone i found in my car she followed me home i don't know what happened i just stuck my dick in her okay if it's that girl and you go and and you go and you're batshit crazy and you go you're always off with this thing why can't you stay home home? And I go, I don't want to stay home. I am justifiably going to be in trouble that I'm putting some side piece of ass above my relationship. But if it's my girlfriend, you understand that there's a relationship balance that has to be maintained. And she does too. Does that make sense? Do you agree with it? Fucking Jesus. Oh, my God. Seriously, we cannot record on any other days. Obviously, it just is too confusing. What I'm trying to do is. We've gone through this. I'm trying to follow along, and I'm trying to think of things in my head about where it's going. Don't try to plan where the route is. I have no alternative motive with this at all i don't i have no alternative motive with this i'm just saying sure look as poly becomes more and more prevalent in the lifestyle in the in the day-to-day swinger world and just society more and more people are are dabbling they're dipping their toe in it they're trying their titty their tip of their dick whatever they're dipping stuff in it right I don't know. and just society more and more people are are dabbling they're dipping their toe in it they're trying their titty their tip of their dick whatever they're dipping stuff in it right and and the thing is is that they have questions about it because this is a part of the lifestyle that can get really fucking gray really fucking fast and shit can go really south fast look the my previous girlfriend at the time that we you know went from we were that was a definite relationship that neither one of us were smart enough to admit what it was to that's why it is where it's at today which is non-existent because we weren't because we didn't work on it like a relationship. We didn't deal with the problems that were coming up like a relationship, because we were afraid to say it was a relationship. Feelings were being admitted. Yeah. We were so concerned about going there that we were already there. We were just lying to ourselves in the process. So like when it was you, I was pretty big on hammering you about when I could see that there was emotion tied with it to get you to admit it. It didn't take a lot of arm twisting to get me to admit it. More than you think. There was some. Did you not feel guilty the first time you admitted that there was emotions? I remember the answer to that question that I asked you then, so keep that in mind. Or did you not feel weird? Well, actually, I hung on eight months, nine months, before emotions even started to get involved no before you before you allowed them to get involved no i kept my feelings completely separate and i know i kept them separate and in fact there was no feelings it was a turn on to go into the nursing room get fucked and go back to your desk so you didn't you didn't you you didn't have a single emotion you didn't go i'm not gonna have a fucking conversation before that well i can't help you have horrible taste taste in men that's besides the point do i have horrible yeah how we doing so far yep you're 50 years older we're doing a podcast will you tell me no i'm just. We love dinner podcast. Okay, so Becky put, that's what's confusing about it all. I'm trying to figure it all out, but I always get confused and then I get down on myself because I can't figure it all out. Why do you have to figure it all out? Yeah, don't figure it all out. I mean, sometimes there's a degree of just like anything let it go with the flow it poly is is like i we had a friend one time tell us poly people will tell you you need a whiteboard because there is there's a shit ton of moving parts i don't know that you ever figure it out because it is weird it was weird even after my girlfriend and i that weren't really a girlfriend at the time basically broke up to finally actually admit to you and to myself to say it out loud that i had feelings that i got a case of the feels that i had feelings like i couldn't see it but like we say before it doesn't matter whether you can see it or not it's it's having to say because all of a sudden that's weird it goes back to you saying before we ever got in a lifestyle why would i want to fuck somebody else like you know yeah i mean that we had every reason why that wouldn't work well the reality of it is it is a real a real part of it and look if you get fucked long enough by somebody you're gonna get some sort of emotional attachment not just fuck look if you know somebody long enough you're gonna get create a relationship well if you allow the the communication and your mind to open up more to them. Well, don't you think if you just get to know people to a degree, you develop. That's how friendships are.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
I mean, really, it's just friendships when it's naked. Well, I mean, that's a huge thing that throws a huge loop in it. Because once you start sticking your dick in stuff, then it gets all fucking silly.
Speaker2:
Yeah, but to me, there's a big difference between friends and lovers.
Speaker1:
What defines a lover? Are we married or are we lovers? What do you say? Don't look like there's some hidden meaning. You're like, and here's the legal, the more favorite.
Speaker2:
There is a hidden meaning.
Speaker1:
No, there's no hidden.
Speaker4:
It's both.
Speaker1:
It is both. So I think it's both. We're soulmates. We're friends. We're lovers. We're all those things. That's why our relationship rocks. There's times where I can turn the love off and treat you like a friend. And there's times that we both treat each other like we fucking hate each other, too. That's part of it. We can turn off not lately it's gotten snippy the waters have been rougher than sometimes another but that's what makes I ain't fucking going on that bad for nothing but that's what makes our relationship awesome it's all those things It's understanding that you can have those things with more than one person. Right.
Speaker3:
Well, we do a show to help people, okay? If you think back, there was a time you say, yeah, right.
Speaker1:
Like, I've always known that. There was a time there was no, before we got in the lifestyle, even when we first got in the lifestyle, we both said, if you have any emotions for somebody you're fucking that's completely wrong emotions have no place in the lifestyle you said that okay so let me ask oh wait a minute so you didn't believe no but you would actually physically say that and i would agree okay did you actually agree were you just saying you agreed no i actually agreed okay so let me ask you this put smack on your microphone i turned it down when you turn it back up i don't know quiet again well i don't know i didn't know you were touching shit okay a long time ago okay it's about no okay go ahead sorry go go before you leave straight well i'm i'm watching the little thingy yeah i'm watching the sticks okay so what's the difference between love and friendship for you between love and friendship or or the emotions for a girlfriend versus a friend okay because here's the thing like to me there's different levels of love okay okay there's like there's because i have friends that I seriously love that I would fucking, you know, take a bullet for and there's there's, you know, so there's different levels of this like, you know, whatever. I guess for I don't think it's love that separates the difference between a friend and a boyfriend or girlfriend. Okay. I think it's a connection. I think it's a wanting, it's what the connection that you want to have with them. So like a friend, it's like, well, whatever works. Hey, we're doing great. We party. We have a good time. You know, or we're hanging we're it's deep and we can chat right but with with you ever since we first started going out even to this day i want to continuously improve to to to understand you more to become to to get deeper fucking failing miserably getting getting closer getting closer to you and understanding everything about you you know and like continue to learn and grow that's and that's what with a girlfriend that's what you know i i want a friendship it's like we connect and it levels here but a girlfriend it's a it's a continuous climb like there is no end I'll see you next time. a friendship it's like we connect and it levels here but a girlfriend it's a it's a continuous climb like there is no end i don't i don't ever want to stop that's why breakups suck so bad in my opinion because it's like all of a sudden here's been this goal this mountain you're trying to climb you're trying to get to this place and all of a sudden it just stops when okay if you're old and you watch the tv series cheers cheers had the worst series ending ever known to man because at the end it you just felt like you weren't invited back to the bar anymore like mash when it ended everybody left they were gone it was over but cheers was just like okay well good night and then you weren't allowed to come back to their bar you felt like shut out and that's why relationships when they break off when the end suck because here you've been going for this quest and now it's just like you're just like your knees are taken on you're like fucked yes i think a little bit different a little bit well is this a learning moment for me? No. Okay, go ahead. I think there's different terms of love in terms of a mental connection versus a heart connection. Explain. I can have friends and I can love them, but it's on on a mental level that i would do anything for them i would help them out whenever i could that's all on a mental level when i fall for somebody you know if when there's you and the girlfriend that you had that i was crushed for two days bawling my eyes out. It was a heart connection. Right. It was like every time I saw him, my heart would just drop. Every time I see you, my heart drops. It flutters. It doesn't drop. You're happy to see me, not disappointed. Just saying. I hope. You know what I mean. And I'm just curious. This is just like for the people at home. I don't care, but just for the people at home. Did it ever reach that with Boy Toy? It started to. It tried to. And then he fucked it all up, didn't he? And then he fumbled on to play. Way to fumble her heart, dumbass. Well, you know, I was crushed there, not to the point of bawling my eyes out for three days oh no no let's call it what it is you don't want to know why you guys were a relationship you know why you were a boyfriend girlfriend seriously why because every because you don't work fridays okay every fucking thursday without fail every fucking thursday you two would get into some sort of fucking stupid thing either miscommunication didn't show up when you're supposed to or something happened and something got fucked up every or he or he was distant that day and didn't talk to you thursday every fucking thursday so all day friday you were pissy because of his shit every fucking thursday and there are people that are probably listening right now that can attest me bitching about that going as god is my witness if those two don't figure this fucking shit out and fight on monday and tuesday so they have the next day to solve it instead of fucking up my weekend every fucking weekend it felt like it for people for people that used to listen to my shit to listen to me have my like uh positive friday motivational moments they went away i wonder why that is because i didn't want a fucking bitch i bitch. It wasn't that bad. But did that not happen? It did. Occasionally. Fucking occasionally. See, Tracy, different levels of intimacy with that sex. Well, okay. So I think that's one of the things. And Becky, as you're talking about, and I think this is part that a lot of times people miss, is that we confuse, or we don't confuse, we assume, especially in the lifestyle, because Polly's a former lifestyle, whatever, that the sex part is what throws everything into a loop. And Tracy nails it, intimacy with or without sex. It's not the sex. Sex is an action. Even before we were swingers, I always claimed that. I always said sex is just an action. If fucking was called basketball, then you'd go play basketball and nobody cared. You know, it's just, it's a verb. Okay? And it's intimacy that makes all the difference. And that's the part. We can't comprehend the intimacy because the sex part fucks with our brains. The reality of it is, is that no matter how many people I fuck, no one will even when I had a girlfriend and the sex was besides you, the best sex. we never had we had moments but we never had intimacy does that make sense i mean and and there's the difference i mean look i you know i have laid in bed with her and sat there and talked naked in between fucking and and we it's a moment it's a connection but it's not intimacy it's a totally different ball game and and that's that's the challenge i it it sucks because this is like a huge confusing topic but it's becoming more and more and more predominant because a lot of people i think okay poly people don't get pissy when i this. Poly can be a very dangerous thing to get into too quick. A lot of poly people are not swingers. There's a misconception. Like the vanilla world thinks if you're poly, you're swingers, and that's not true necessarily. I mean, it's just you're seeing that in there. But poly is really not for the faint of heart because there is way more places that you can totally get fucking sidetracked I would hate to get my heart broken do you okay because of I mean the idea isn't to get your heart broken but there's been a lot of heartbreak the reality of it is and this is the challenge that we had when when the when things finally ended with the girlfriend that i had was that i wasn't going to take and say i wasn't i thought it was rude to expect her to always be the other woman and a lot of poly people and we had no experience in poly let's let's be real honest we had no idea what we were doing that's the way we do everything a lot of people say, you're missing the point. Here's my question to you. Because this answer was, I know what the answer was when that breakable happened. Would you go into another poly relationship? Because your boy toy was not a poly relationship, in my opinion. Would you do a poly relationship again? I know we both agree that we never got actively looking for one. We don't go looking for one. We never have actively gone out. No, it just happened. It happened. But if it happened, would you be open to a poly relationship again? Probably. And here's the thing. That was how many? That was two years ago? I think it was longer than that. Two or three years ago. And there's still that hesitancy because the thing with the poly relationship is like any relationship, when it breaks up, it hurts. It hurt pretty bad. I cried for three days and she wasn't my girlfriend. She was your girlfriend. Yeah. I don't know. It's just that's the part that's so scary when I see people get into it really early on. It's like we had been swinging for quite a while before that ever happened. And, I mean.
Speaker2:
I mean, I'd probably do it again if everybody was on the same page.
Speaker1:
I think we understand it more and be more willing to admit. We would understand what we were into, what was happening, where the last time we weren't. I think all three of us were, and understand, we're not passing any blame on this. This was all three of us were in kind of like, none of us knew what was really happening exactly. No, you too. For sure. Everybody could see it, but you too weren't willing to admit your feelings well we were afraid to admit feelings yeah we we were trying to figure it out and i think now it would be easier if it happened again now because we've learned from those that we learned from it but that's one of the challenges and i think when you have people that are brand new in the lifestyle it's like, well, the level of knowledge or comfort level with each other is different. And, yeah, but it's a lot like some of the BDSM things. I think it's more predominant now than it's ever been than when we first got in the lifestyle. Like, you see, like, events and stuff. You see packages more for poly. and it's great that everybody's included because it should be but it's just like you know i don't know i never when we do these shows i don't know if we actually help anybody we make it worse i don't really know i'm just trying to help that's what we do that part i don't know it's interesting because we think about this stuff because when when with the whole thing with your boy toy for me, I had to work through my brain as to whether or not we were in a poly thing again. And I've come to the conclusion we weren't in a poly thing. You had something. You had a puppy. She had a puppy on the side and she liked to pet it a lot whenever she could. So she was just off petting her puppy. But to me, that wasn't Polly. My guy was afraid to talk to me. We didn't see each other outside of work very often, and if we did, it was usually at a hotel. Well, and he was never comfortable around me comfortable around me he's a little awkward but you have a very intimidating I am not not intimidating in the least you're not but you come off that way I don't come off that way I come off friendly and nice and reassuring and warm and welcoming why are you looking at me like that I am very warm and welcoming and someone that people go you know I think that guy cares are you saying that's not the case not always I was never mean to the
Speaker2:
guy no but there's a no
Speaker1:
I was always friendly hi how you
Speaker2:
didn't see him that often no
Speaker1:
but I would see work I'd wave Thank you. guy no but there's a no i was always friendly hi how you didn't see him that often no but i would see you work i'd wave i didn't like hide or flick him off or anything i'd wave come on talking i'd say hi i'd wake up i would i would wake up and and you know i'm sleeping in the car so he could babble at me about shit like yeah at least he yeah. Hey, at least he opened up that car. He did, he did. And I took and I was, I embraced that. I invited, I made sure to get out of the home so he wouldn't feel uncomfortable when you guys fucked here. Invite him along on trips. I tried to be, I mean, I didn't go make him a sandwich or anything. Hey, great job fucking Amanda. Here, have a sandwich. I didn't do that, but I mean, I think I'm pretty fucking warm and like a big fucking teddy bear. Here we go. great job fucking Amanda here have a sandwich I didn't do that but I mean I think I'm pretty fucking warm and like a big fucking teddy bear cuddly as fuck I'm kind of hurt right now why because now people are gonna be so so what people are afraid of me I'm intimidating I'm mean looking I smile a lot who doesn't like a fat kid? Jolly fat kid. My poofy hair.
Speaker2:
That's you on a bad day.
Speaker3:
Hey, look.
Speaker2:
At least Angela's not scared.
Speaker1:
Yeah, see, Angela's not scared at all. She knows I'm a big softie. Just a big fluffy.
Speaker2:
Big fluffy.
Speaker1:
I am fluffy.
Speaker3:
Fluffy.
Speaker1:
Squishy. God, this judge is. No, that's a good thing. Well, it is, kind of. Well, obviously it's good I'm not just built. If I was ripped, holy fuck, no one would talk to us then, apparently. Oh, my God, here comes Godzilla. I'm like, what the fuck? There are times when you get fired up or focused and you can look pretty mean. Okay. You can't hold those things against you. I also have a polyprincess. I just went there to brush my hair. You can't get... You did that somewhere else. Oh, that live you did today. You even did... I'm like going, are you fucking kidding? You can't even leave your hair alone. You know what my mom said to me? What? She's like, you brush your... You fluff your hair back. I'm like, okay. Anyway, there was a nurse in the room. What do you expect? Anyways, so the thing is, yes, when I'm focused, I'm just focused. I just, you know, I'm not intimidated. I'm always smiling. I'm always, I'm the happiest motherfucker you'll ever fucking meet. If you, okay ask this Oh boy If you were to walk into a room and you have on your Long coat and you seem to be walking With purpose what do people do Move the fuck out of my way because Batman's coming Through bitch because my cape is flowing And my hair is flowing and my Boots are going click and oh man okay i'm not even gonna lie there's nothing more fun than being in a hurry and blowing down walmart and that fucking cape is just kicked all the way because because my jacket my jacket is is it's long and big and it'll puff out it's got a good four foot poof to it and when i get to moving and them cowboy boots man man, just click. And literally, you will see people look back and hurry and push their car and grab their kids out of the way because my cape's coming through. Meany? It is fucking awesome. I'm not going to lie. It's kind of fun. You're such an ass. I'm not an ass. It was worse when I was younger. I had bigger hair and stuff, more of it. I'm just in a hurry. I'm just trying to make sure i don't hold anybody else up my thing is is that i want i want to make sure that i help and get out of people's way wait a minute missy i'm sure that your confidence can be intimidating to some people i'm not really confident though really sure sure well yeah maybe just saying anyways yeah i don't really know What? How am I more intimidating? Because you're a mean little smurf Because you're an angry elf That's why You're a horny angry elf I'm not mean When she puts her elf ears on Oh boy I need to get those out Yes you do You need to get those out And wear those around well you're not mean but i'm how am i intimidating i'll take a video like 4 11 i'll take a video the next time you're riding on top you got that fucking i've taken a video of me riding on top duh you know you you didn't catch yourself in the heat of the moment you're like worried about what you were doing but if you tracy's laughing am i intimidating? Yeah, she's bouncing on top. Have that look. He's being nice. It's a mean-ass bitch look. I'll say it. No, resting bitch face? No. Probably the first time seeing her in the bowling alley. Yeah. And here's the thing. Once you realize she's just a child, it's all I'm going to know. You should see her naked. I'm telling you, that's fucking intimidating as fuck. I always need a hug, Carrie. Always. You're not intimidating. You can be. You can be. It's funny. It's funny because you don't think. You think it's stature. Like, you think because you're short, you're not intimidated. I'm going to tell you what. You may never have fucking thrown down with somebody before, but you can get that fucking look and fuck. Yeah. You can lose that innocent fucking look in a fucking heartbeat. You're going to like a mom protecting her cub sort of fucking weird ass shit things. And that's when shit gets. Danny, watch the little person stuff. You're going to make me mad. Last thing I need is two angry, pissed off leprechauns coming to try to fucking kill me at the same time. Just saying. You know, that's a dangerous thing. You know that? What? Midget sex was a dangerous thing. How's midget sex a dangerous thing? Two midgets getting pissed off. Short people are mean as fuck when they get all fucking fired up. Because your fuse is like everything else. Short. And, man, you go, the fuck you don't. It's the mom look. Yeah, it's the mom look. What it is is here's the problem. You had three boys, and you stood your ground to all three of them. All three of them have tried that fucking bullshit with you, and you stood your fucking ground with all three of them, with ne'er a waver in your voice or a shake of your hand. You stood your ground. I can remember when your oldest one said, you can't slap me, and you fucking popped him right on the spot. And he went to tears. So it's like, you know what? And he's saying, I can tell the school. What, you're going to go tell your school your mom kicked your ass at fucking 4 11 great way to go puss just saying so yeah no i'm i only fuck with you because i give you money and shit you give me mom looks are meant to intimidate well they work well i'll buy you shit or bribe you whatever i've got to do i don't fucking care i'm just saying i respect all short people because you're fun to have sex with and you're fucking mean and pissy if you don't get your way no i'm just kidding now i'm gonna have danny fucking ready to kick my ass you're gonna be kicking my fucking a couple of my cadets are short yeah we're gonna have yeah actually actually you know what we're gonna do at crazy summer nights i've decided because i want to do it like a 5k i think that'd be fun to do but i think we'll we'll do'll do like a leprechaun run. And so what we'll do. No, because we've got a lot of short girls out there. And I think it would be fucking funny. I don't think there's that many short girls. Oh, yeah, there is. We'll line everybody up. We'll have a contest. You'll be surprised. There's a lot of short girls. And I think it's awesome. I kind of dig that. Just throwing that out there. Anyways, wow, what a great place to fucking end the show and get the fuck out of Dodge. Just saying, we didn't do a midway point. Fuck, I didn't even, like, poach my shit.
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