Krazy Truth #15 Swinging with Disabilities

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Speaker1: Bachelor, bachelorette parties, gag gifts and more. They have tons of gourmet flavors that are shipped right to your door. Order yours today at www.naughtypopsnow.etsy.com and tell them Crazy Truth sent you. Hey you crazy motherfuckers, welcome back to another edition of Crazy Truth. Yeah, I'm fucking around while you're doing the ads. That's right. That's what we do. Oh, boy, we're here. We're ready to roll. We are. You know what? Here's what's really neat. You know how we normally start the show with a sex story? You don't have one? Not like one that was in the news. Oh, we have a better one? We've got to, yeah, hold on. I've got to adjust my dick. Is it you or is it me? It feels like I've got to adjust my dick. Well, you have to aim it just right. Find the right hole. Speak into my microphone. Yeah, no, so, yeah, yeah no i don't really have a sex story uh something like in the news but here's the thing if you want to hear a really cool story we can talk about we can talk about all kinds of different things we can talk about trampoline sex stories we can talk about do you have some i do i know i do you know actually i'm going to tell i'm going to tell a unique story tonight there is be on the lookout if you're in iowa and you are at the world famous bone stock or no palooza uh and you take your clothes off to have sex on a trampoline you don't get them all back okay so that's right so there is currently uh someone that has taken my underwear from about two years ago uh and it is one on a world tour uh we'll post pictures it is one to jamaica it's went to all over the place which by the way if you're going to be in a swingers party make sure that you actually don't wear the underwear that your mother told you never to wear in case you got in Iraq. Because the pair I wore that night were the ones that had holes in them and were really comfy and shit. Yeah, they've been all over the world.
Speaker2: You were supposed to change once we got there.
Speaker1: I was going to. And you didn't. But then I had sex instead and now my underwear travels the world. And the same, it's kind of like the Hamburglar or something, the same person just this weekend.
Speaker2: You assume.
Speaker1: I'm pretty damn sure my underwear is going to be accompanied by one of my new shirts or by one of my shirts because i can't find it every time we go to iowa and and i mean it's worth it because it's fun you're like where'd i put my shirt um we can't find it we'll find it in the morning it's nowhere so there you go when you go to a swingers party watch be on the lookout for clothes thieves there you go as long as they wear some you keep track of your clothes no shit how many parties did we go to and i lost something some article like socks underwear shirt shoes pants i've lost it you've lost pants i've lost pants i've lost pants it's i'm good that way all right so there's the sex story don't worry next one we'll have a... You've lost ties. I've lost ties. I've lost belts. Next time, we'll have a real sex story. That is real, because it's really happening to me. We'll give you an update on where my shirt travels to in the near future. But we're going to get right into questions. You have to find your shirt first, and who has it? No shit. We'll see who comes forward. Okay, so other than clothes thieves. So we're going to get right into it. We've a couple of really really unique questions today okay so the something we do different on the crazy truth than everybody else does we take down the questions that a lot of people they don't have the balls enough to take on there you go okay because it's not necessarily just sexy it's like no we're ready we're ready to do this shit okay so the first question this comes from uh again a uh out in utah there you go all right so here it is i have a blind friend who is interested in the lifestyle they were wondering how people with disabilities are treated how's the accessibility of events and are there special rules in place or safety precautions in place we're going deep right off the bat man hail mary motherfuckers here we go okay well first let's start with this fucking rock on and kudos for just because someone has a medical condition or a medical situation that that should not preclude them from being in the lifestyle correct okay so we have seen uh we know our own personal experience we know uh we know a couple of folks that are paralyzed uh we know a couple of folks that are amputees and uh we haven't specifically i have not known anyone specifically that's blind in the lifestyle. I don't either. So, but. Obviously. Unless you've been swinging somewhere else. Sorry. I thought you were going to the store, man. I was wrong. That's cucumbers. Why do we have so many cucumbers? Uh, so, and, but we've known people that have had other medical conditions that have insulin pumps and ostomies and the whole nine yards. So in terms of number one, in our opinion, and here, let's start with this, actually. I'm going to fucking go straight on a limb on this right off the bat, okay? Here's the deal. For anybody who's listening, this is just our opinion. Just our opinion. Okay, so if you don't agree with it, number one, fuck off. Send us a letter. We'll read your hate mail on the air. Number two, it's just our opinion. It is. Okay. So, we've got to get all the bullshit out of the way right off the bat. Okay, so first and foremost, the lifestyle in, is supposed to be non-judgmental. It's supposed to be. Hey, let's put on a body-shaming meme. So the thing is, is that we want to, for someone to have a medical condition, that should never preclude somebody from being alive. that should not even be that should be that should not even be a fucking reason for someone to uh even vaguely consider not getting into the lifestyle now i think and i think you'll agree with me there is there's two schools of thoughts here right there's two levels of responsibility that go with this there is the level of responsibility of the individual because the individual does have some responsibilities on on things to make sure that their their experience is everything they want it to be which includes their safety their all that okay and then there's expectations on the host or club or whatever, right? So which one do you want to start with? Are we going to go clubs or are we going to go individual? Well, clubs should be pretty cut and dry, so go with that one. Okay. Because they should cater to everybody. If they have their heads out of their ass. Okay, so with a club, yes, number one, a club should be, it's going to have to abide by all the regular, or should, all the regular laws, applicable laws with accessibility and access for anyone. So, look, if you're going to a sex club and they don't meet the regular building codes like any other building or any other business, then you have a fucking problem. Okay, you might want to reconsider whether or not you want to go to that club. Well, now that I think about it, we went to one where there were stairs to get to a bathroom and there's no way that a person in a wheelchair can go to the bathroom. Uh-huh. Nice. Yeah. That just dawned on me. Yeah. You would think. Or to the playroom. That's true. That's the whole thing. So, okay. Number one, as a as a club if you're running a business run a business smart uh make it make it uh accessible for everybody i mean because there's some really cool people that it here's the deal some of their friends and and some of their friends that don't have a medical condition probably aren't going to go somewhere that that they can't that's not accessible for their friend i wouldn't i'd be like no fuck you okay so make sure that should be accessible all the way across sport i think that it's important if you have special needs accordingly that uh depending on how the club is set up you probably should let them know if there are special needs it that you need to know about the other thing would be obviously depending on what the situation is i going to a club with with somebody is always a good idea i mean here's the you should go to the club with somebody especially if you're a female anyways i mean going to a club by yourself can be a scary thing there's safety things there as far as that goes but if if you're going with you know you have to understand if you have certain special you have certain and smile for the camera if you have special needs along those lines so make sure that either you have somebody there that can help you out uh whatever as a business, get a hold of that club first to confirm that they have anything that they are accessible all the way across the board. Make sure that they have that and get a hold of them. A club should be able to tell you, yes, hey, we are all set up. We do have this. This will work. Or here are our limitations. okay so obviously if you if it's not a club, if it's like a private party, a private house event, ask them. Well, yeah, that's the thing. Ask them. Not only just ask them, but hopefully if your host is invited, a host or hostess have invited you, they already know that you might have some special requirements okay but if not let's say it's going through a friend of a friend call them and ask them because obviously a personal home isn't going to have the same uh you know that they might not have the same equipment accordingly that they need that that a business is required to have but again it's about communication if you talk to people and say hey look here's the deal this is some of the things that i need. People are going to work with you as far as that goes. That kind of addresses the more like obvious, you know, we're talking to somebody that maybe is in a wheelchair or something along those lines, has a very obvious, some special circumstances that they need. When you switch over to the individual, and look, when you go into an individual there's all kinds of different there's all kinds of different medical conditions that people have and one thing to keep really in mind i think for for those that are fortunate not to have a medical condition you know what if if people even just in their regular day-to-day lives if if they have an ostomy, for example, they're self-conscious about those things. It takes a shit ton of courage to want to take and get in a lifestyle where there's going to be nudity and there's going to be sex with people that you don't know or you don't know very well to put themselves out there with something that maybe people don't understand so keep that in mind the courage to do something like that is that's that takes a lot of that takes more courage than just you and me deciding hey i think we're gonna make this leap to go fuck some other people okay because you know i mean it is what it is it's kind of a common sense thing but as an individual when you take and if you're going to if you're in the lifestyle and you have something again like an ostomy like like a I'll say like a an insulin pump something along those lines the the reality of it is it doesn't do really, really well for you to take and surprise someone with that, okay? So, you know, it's important, and again, communication, it's important to maybe explain that situation, to explain that this is, here's the situation, this is what I have xyz uh and i have an insulin pump and the reason you're doing that is look if you just if you just catch somebody off guard completely a lot of times people's reactions they're going to react surprised and and that's going to make everything tense for everybody across the board okay so there's nothing wrong with saying look here's the situation here's this is what i have it it doesn't mean that the very first words out of your mouth that'd be hi i'm cole want to check out my medical device no it doesn't have to be like that but as the course of the conversation let them know and and quite possibly i mean again this is again this is just our opinion but quite possibly it might be something that before the sex part or you even get to that part happens that you might want to show it to them i want to you know if it moves along so they have a better understanding of because remember they don't have one so they don't they don't know it's new it's foreign it's different to them they don't want to do anything to fuck it up right so maybe show it to them have that communication with them about it now if someone says if that's a if for whatever reason that's a deal breaker they're out you can't be butthurt about that as the individual. You just, you just can't be, you can't get all worked up and all pissed off about that because, you know, again, remember, you know, everybody isn't everybody else's cup of tea. So some people might not like me cause I'm a fat guy right you know i've got man boobs so they might be like you're out all right i still have a dick no my man boobs are not hanging down here i've got a love tire so i mean some people that's going to be the reason i can't get pissed off you know because, because that are somebody, maybe somebody's not going to like you because you're a smurf. You know, you're, you're short. So somebody, you can't help it. Okay. My man boobs, I could probably do something about be a lazy fuck, but I mean, you can't do anything about your height, but if someone really doesn't want to take and have sex with a short girl, can you get all upset? No. Can you help it? No. Can you grow? No. Can you grow? I wish. So understand that it's the same thing. Some people just might not be comfortable with working with that. Okay. And I think this even goes even further because i think you see it more and more we've had this breast cancer okay so we've had we've hooked up with uh a couple we've hooked up with a couple of different couples a couple of couples sometimes you feel like a nut so uh some of the couples that that are breast cancer survivors they've had mastectomies. They've had some different things along those lines. So when they play, there's a comfort level that they still leave on a top or a bra or whatever the case may be. So the thing is, is that understand if you have a medical device, there may be, I know like with awesomeness, they have special ones for, to be intimate with and things along those lines. So there may be some things that you can do like that to help. I won't say minimize it because that sounds bad, but make it that it's. Well, they're going to do what they're comfortable with doing. Right. What they're going to be comfortable with, what the other person's going to be comfortable with uh and again if someone if that's the deal breaker okay it is what it is don't get buttered it just it is in the example she uses with somebody being blind uh you know that's a totally different thing i i gotta tell you and this is not to be a smart ass to be a dick or anything else i actually believe that because i used to be in sales Thank you. i i gotta tell you and this is not to be a smart ass to be a dick or anything else i actually believe that because i used to be in sales okay and i knew some of the very best sales people that i knew were blind okay and the reason for that was they never pre-qualified anybody they didn't have their sight so they didn't look at someone and go oh they'll never be able to buy anything i almost wonder what an advantage that could be in the lifestyle because we talk about it all the time right personality and we all say it but here's the deal it's easier to wait and talk to somebody to find out how good their personality is if they're attractive because well i mean think about it if it's somebody that you just deem and there's no fucking nice way to say it eye contact across the room well yeah yeah exactly i mean literally well think about that i what it almost what a what a meet and that would be I mean just and again we're not making fun I'm just saying overall but if everybody walked in as soon as you walked in the room you would put a blindfold was put on you you were taken to a table and it was like a I'll say almost like a speed dating thing so people would come would be led to each table but everybody's blindfolded so the only the only thing you're gonna have is personality wouldn't that be amazing i actually that's a light bulb go off in your head that's a good party idea yeah i mean well and that's you know and that's the thing so if we can take in if we can take and actually focus on personality wow what a win now and again this is this is another part of our question this is huge safety we always talk about safety right safety I don't know.
Speaker3: I don't know.
Speaker1: I don't know. I don, right? Safety. Some of it is the rules still apply. The same rules apply all the way through, okay? Obviously, you know, knowing some of the people you're there with, having the buddy system in play a little bit. I mean, that's always going to be something that's important. If you're a host or a hostess, I would think just as a general rule, you would try to look out for those situations a little bit. I think that if you're a club, there are ways to, you know, every club does this. It's a big thing is to do like a kind of a mini tour a little bit. Okay, so maybe with someone that's blind is that you're going to want to, number one, slow down and actually give a better tour would be awesome and you know what somebody's going to know them uh even if you just know them casually you know kind of watch out and help each other i mean really the safety thing goes even beyond just with a medical condition if we would all spend a little more time watching out for each other versus trying to fuck people over i mean just in life in general think about that if we all want hey you know what hey this person looks a little lost hey how can i help you or hey this person looks a little new hey hey who are you how are you whatever wow wouldn't that kick ass So that's kind of the same thing that applies obviously just fucking be good to people show some fucking it's swinging for christ's sakes treat them like human beings wait what uh that's fucking weird they're normal just like everybody else well okay and here's the other thing both for the people with medical conditions and for the rest of us here's the deal i don't care how old we are right there's questions there's gonna be questions you remember this question you remember you remember this remember the first time we ran into uh the the couple were uh that he was an amputee and you were like okay i gotta ask this how does this work how does this work because he had he has a prosthetic leg and here's the thing he was he laughed but he was more than happy to answer the question and i actually think if we'd had more time he'd been more than happy to show you he was actually the plan was to actually show you and do a demonstration on how that would actually work just saying but you know what don't don't be afraid to ask and don't be offended if people do ask i'd rather have someone ask oh i see i gave a bad example with me because i said bad i had man boobs but you know how long have you had I don't think they get offended if people ask. No. Because they'd rather have people ask than try to guess. Or to avoid them. Mm-hmm. I mean, seriously, again, in theory, notice we say that a lot on this show, in theory, we're all adults. And you know what? Because you're always going to have that one mean well we we you've asked on we've asked on a friend of ours you know when we first met him that was in a wheelchair i mean we've asked how did how did how does it work i mean we figure but paralyzed from the waist down i'm like so can he play yeah yeah exactly and the wife was like well it takes a little bit longer to get him up but once you do you get on top and go for a ride and the thing is rock on and if i remember he was stoked that you wanted to know i mean because that's just it is that here's the deal they want to they want to play and they're in it for the same reason we are guess what i don't know of anybody that's in the lifestyle solely for the purpose of hanging out and not talking to anybody or not having sex some stretches it feels like i am but for the most part that's not generally the case and we've had one guy that came up to us and told us about having an insulin pump yep and now people were like i don't want to have sex with you because that scares me well get to know what it is yeah ask questions can i see it what what does what okay can i hurt it can i pull it out what what happens yeah well and and that's the thing is is that we even ask and that's one thing we said is you know what talk to about it's an education thing i mean it once people can once people see that it is nothing more than just a part of you and they become comfortable with it, then pretty much it can be overcome. But you have to know that. I think he said that to me to see what my reaction would be. He did. Because I was like, okay. It was like to see if there was a shock. Because as he said, he had so many people that, like, everything was going great. And then when they brought that up, it was like, boom. Instant night and day switch. Part of that's presentation. Life is about presentation. Okay? So, you know, if you present it like, okay, I know me. If I had something like that, I would be a total smartass. I would be like, by the way, I'm part robot. I mean, I would do something stupid because that's how I deal with everything is to try to crack a joke with it. Because if I can make you laugh, then I think I'm going to get laid. Works for 26 years with you. But no. So the thing is, as you make people feel comfortable they'll become comfortable the one that said that he can pop his eye out i said please don't okay that's good to hell man i'm gonna lie i'm like do not do that i'm like it comes out oh yeah i'm no leave it because he's like i can put different ones in it's really cool no don't i saw him do it i saw him do it with other at with other people oh serious oh yeah and you know what he would die laughing every time we did it well he has surgery so it won't come out yeah he had surgery now but the thing was he did all kinds of tricks with it i did not see that i don't know yeah but that's awesome because you know what he had taken something that could have been a total confidence killer. And this motherfucker gets laid.
Speaker2: Yeah, he does.
Speaker1: I mean, A, number one, he usually starts off with, hey, you want to see my dick? And he's got a seal killer. But he's personal. But I've seen him. He's like, hey, you want to see something funny? And he popped the back of his head and popped his eye out. He could do party tricks with it. But it totally, before it was over, initially people were going oh but before it's over they're laughing and then guess guess what then he's getting fucking laid like a champ yeah if it works for you it works for you oh shit there you go we're not advocating doing that but i mean whatever whatever fucking works for you we don't care okay so here's the thing you know what uh as you guys listen to this and and if you have other situations other comments i want to take a minute here uh and i'm going to make sure that when you watch this on youtube that our email will come up if you have other experiences or you personally have a medical condition and you have other ideas things that we should have hit on or things that You think you know for a follow-up fucking send them to us because here's the deal we're fortunate we don't we don't have a situation so if somebody does and you got something that works for you fucking let us know so we'll make sure hold on this is where the pause comes in okay so when you watch this on youtube our email is going to come up send that to us because we'll take and read that on the air. Okay? All right, cool. Look at this go. Okay, so question. All right, so actually. Perfect timing. Perfect timing. Dun. Now, a word from our second half sponsor. Club G, where friends and pleasure come together. Come visit Club club g the hottest new lifestyle club in des moines over 3200 square feet huge dance floor private play areas and plenty of places for quiet conversation club g contact them for more information at dsm ls c01 at gmail.com Alright, welcome back. Alright, so the next question. Are you done? You good? You had the whole commercial break to take a drink.
Speaker4: Sorry.
Speaker5: Alright.
Speaker2: It's the last minute. It's the last minute urge.
Speaker1: Oh god, I'm so thirsty.
Speaker2: It wore me out.
Speaker1: It's because you were deep in therooting the microphone during the commercial.
Speaker2: I was.
Speaker1: We'll do that on the next episode.
Speaker2: Y'all wanted to see me get executed.
Speaker1: No, I didn't want to see that. I said that was a possibility.
Speaker2: No, it's not. People spitting it all the time.
Speaker1: That's why we use microphone condoms.
Speaker4: Okay. Okay.
Speaker1: Anyways, all right. So the next question, the question comes to us from New York. Woo! I was going to break out in song, but everybody prefer I not. That's why I was waiting for that. Okay, so the question is, this question comes to us from Anonymous. I have never met Anonymous. But anyways, it comes to us from anonymous and the question is they're having a party they're having a big party and there are going to be a wide mix of people there there's going to be people that are primarily kinksters so this is their first swinger event there's going to be swingers there that this will be their first exposure to kink and there's going to be some that are in between now they have let the everybody knows that there's going to be a mix
Speaker4: and I'll see you next time. exposure to kink and there's going to be some that are in between now they have let the part
Speaker1: everybody knows that there's going to be a mix of things okay so it's not like anybody's walking into this blind the question then becomes how do they what's the best way for the host and hostess to host and hostess host and hostess to introduce the The host and hostess to introduce the kink and the swingers to make everybody feel comfortable. They want to be able to introduce the kink and the kinksters and what they do to the swingers and vice versa. How does everybody say everybody's comfortable with it? Because for some people, there are going'll be a few that know both worlds, and for the others, it's going to be worlds apart. And I think that's a really good question, because one of the things we're starting to see more and more in the lifestyle now is there is more of a coming together of kinksters and swingers. Right. You know, it used to be so that those two groups just't didn't intermingle and now it's starting to be something that's pretty common and we're big on no king and that we we fully believe in integrating both kinksters and swingers because you discover cool things that you might want to like you might want to try you might want to do so okay so the first thing is and i didn't get to talk to him a lot about you know what types of kink that they're bringing in but it sounds like there was going to be some kind of some of your usual suspects some rope play some some knife play some you know nothing like nothing of the really really hardcore kink or the real taboo kink but just almost what you'd call more some of the normal kink or what swingers would think of as more normal kinks there's gonna be some paddles there's gonna be some some floggers there's gonna be some things like that so okay so you you have dove slowly we've kind of made that transgression a little bit more and more into bdM. You've made more of a transition into BDSM. BDSM light. I was going to say, it's very light compared to other people. But you've went into it a little bit more than I have. You've started to make that transition. It's kind of slowly starting to become part of our play as well. So for like you, how did you start to get comfortable with it? Because when we first started in the lifestyle, let's face it, we watched the shows and whatever. And we're like, whoa, that stuff's weird. I mean, when we first got in nine years ago, Knife Play would have been like, what? No, you gotta be kidding me. You have to have somebody explain it to you. Explain it. And I think show. And thoroughly. And then show. Right and then show right right so okay so in a party situation like this i mean no one's there for you know everybody's there to have a good time i mean the ultimate goal is to have people to have sex or kink or both obviously so it's not so much that you're making it like a seminar but to a degree you are to to a degree so but the best thing is you gotta have demonstrate no one wants to just like we were like read about it demonstrations are like a really good way to get stuff started maybe before you actually have the party bringing them together you can bring some of the more well not necessarily well-known but trusted in certain areas of kink right to show those have not been exposed to it what they do and explain it while they're doing it okay so but you think before the party or do you think like because i mean i don't know let's say how they did the party have, like, your icebreaker, and then you can go in this room if you're interested in. Okay. Then this person would be more than happy to tell you about that type of play. So you think maybe they'll keep them separate, not just like, hey, everybody's here in front of the whole big group? I don't necessarily think so. Well, I know of some people that have been exposed to that, but sometimes it can scare the crap out of them but we saw that with knife play and that but that was a demonstration it was a demonstration but there was a whole lot of people wanted to try it afterwards i mean if you remember okay so i more took the girl aside and said okay what was he doing with the knife? Was he shaking it? Was he poking? What was he doing? Right. Because it was pretty cool. Because when we saw that, it was at a party. Everybody knew the person that does knife play and had complete trust. But you could have heard. There was like, man, there was almost 100 people there. And you could have heard a pin drop like everybody quit talking and was just intently watching what was going on and he wasn't explaining what he was doing as he was doing he just literally was doing doing it on a gout she agreed that yeah you can do in front of people and people got to see it and then he got a whole bunch of questions afterwards so i mean for me i think that if you do i think that if you have it too separated it's easy to go well yeah there's no way i'd like that and you're you might be less apt to even try that's true where if it was more like hey we're gonna you know some people are gonna do this or or i think you're right with the party once you do the icebreaker then kind of let people don't you know start playing or whatever they're going to do because remember you're going to also have some they said they have some kinksters there that this is their first swinging event oh that's true so you want to make sure that they also because they're going to have questions about the swinging lifestyle one of the things that we've learned because we we know a lot of kinksters and we've talked to them is that We'll be right back. also because they're gonna have questions about the swinging lifestyle one of the things that we've learned because we we know a lot of kinksters and we've talked to them is that uh you can't just assume people go well they understand what swinging is because it's just about having sex because it's not like for a lot of what we've learned a lot of the kinksters they don't play with anybody but their set partner in their kink so their confusion is or they're like unknown is they're like holy shit you take and have sex with somebody totally different how can you do that you know that's like totally bizarre so they're gonna want to kind of watch to see how other couples start to intermingle and how that kind of leads to sex. So if you kind of just let – everybody has – the party just kind of starts and it naturally starts to unfold a little bit. And then people can watch and see what they want. Maybe somebody does rope play, but they want to watch two couples start to do do a swap so you want to make sure you do that as well but i like what you that one of the things i agree with is maybe you can take if you have people that you know there's certain types of kink there that are going to be there uh have some of them put or put together an email you're going to send out to your guest list just kind of explaining what explaining what some of it is. Just the basics. You don't have to go into huge details. I mean, you don't need pictures and a manual. But to let people know, hey, there's going to be rope play there. There's going to be whatever. And a little bit about it. Because if you're new in the lifestyle, swinging or whatever, and you walk in and you see this pile of big ropes, you know, you're like, uh, what the fuck? Now, when I first heard rope play, I thought it was always somebody suspending. Tells you how little knowledge I have. Yeah. Well, we all, I thought it would be somebody suspended from a some from some apparatus right right and but i have heard that right they do do that and then the first time i actually saw it it was just a gal standing there and he wrapped her in all these cool knots and designs and it was very artistic and very cool well okay so i always she wasn't suspended right he wasn't hanging from anything weird i i always thought that like with rope play or anything else that then they did they tied him up and then he fucked see i didn't understand that for some people for some kinksters the sex quote unquote or the feeling of the sex is not sex like like fucking it's the actual rope play itself it's either the the feeling of being tied up or the the feeling of tying up like like the guy that we know that does the knife play he gets he says he gets a euphoric feeling when he's performing knife play that's like sex so for, you know, that's part of what swingers that aren't in the King Donut always understand is that there isn't, like, if you watch it, okay, when are they going to fuck? Well, they, like, did. I mean, you know, they've already experienced that. And for kinksters coming into the swinger world, it's like the the thing is, is that we do fuck, you know, all the, that a lot of times swingers will use slight forms of EDSM as almost foreplay to actually lead into sex. Like you like knife play. Yeah. Yeah. But you don't want to go and just like, okay, after you're done doing the knife play, I mean, then you're, you're ready to fuck. I mean you don't want to go and just, like, okay, after you're done doing the knife blaming, then you're ready to fuck. I mean, you don't have to.
Speaker2: I didn't do it as a sexual thing.
Speaker4: No.
Speaker2: I did it because I wanted to see what it was like, and it's like, okay, that's not bad.
Speaker1: But you're laying there naked, and you've got people rubbing.
Speaker2: Okay, now what?
Speaker1: Yeah, he's got rubbing on you. It's like, okay, you're ready to, like. Some of it, though, comes from books. These fictional though comes from books these fictional books what no shush up fictional books that are written by people that don't have a whole lot of knowledge in it so they always talk about all these different bdsm things and then it leads to sex well okay yeah so i'll say the title i don't care no there's a bunch of them okay it isn't just one i've read multiple that's when you really started to like reading i know i like my smut you could cruise through one of those fast no and no there was one i read it wasn't even that one the whole series that was made into a movie i read one that was strictly like hardcore bdsm bdsm club and i mean it was it was hardcore but it wasn't it wasn't it was like went straight to sex yeah and and so there's part of the problem right there is that again hey guess what just because it's on the internet doesn't mean that doesn't mean it's true or a book or a book or a movie doesn't mean it's true so you have a lot of people that got read those books and got all fucking these chicks got all wet and drippy let's try that oh i want to try that yeah and it sounds like a great thing except for the fact that then you've got you know hubby over here that has no fucking clue what he's doing you know dangerous well we laugh about that but here's the deal you take and shove the wrong thing up your ass in the wrong way too hard not carefully not smart not lubed up not a whole kinds of things that is how you make another tv show called sex sammy to the er i mean that's i I mean, about that shit but there's a reason there that show exists because yes if you don't you don't want to have sex with a camp stove i do not want to fuck a camp stove i i mean you know you know it's a party when you're when you're going to fuck the camp stove but i mean people don't get if you look at some of the tools and some of the instruments, tools, if you look at some of the things, the, the, what, I didn't know what they're called, props, tools, things, hardware store, I don't know.
Speaker2: It's their toys.
Speaker1: It's their toys. When you look at some of those toys, some of this shit could do some serious damage if you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Speaker2: It isn't even necessarily the toys. Hand placement.
Speaker1: Oh, yeah. Don't just wrap your hand in somebody's across somebody's throat okay yeah we might have lectured on that well we did we didn't i didn't know and i'm like jesus christ man you're gonna you could accidentally like crush your windpipe but if you don't know and you're just doing it you're like this is really hot yeah it's hot till you kill her or he get killed i mean okay one person i let me use try a bullwhip you remember this just in the garage not on anybody i was like you tried no no and the first thing that he said he goes now he said yes i said people actually use it goes yes people actually use these it's okay so now the first thing be careful or when you crack it it will come back and hit you can don't poke out an eye and we were all laughing and the first thing i did was crack that fucker and whap right back in the face just obviously he took the whip away from me but he goes you understand if you use this on somebody and you don't use it correctly you are taking chunks of flesh it's like oh yeah so this stuff is kind of kind of i'd want to take a bullet to somebody that's just no i mean but but again part of the fetish or part of the kink is not the whip it's a sound it's a sound so if when you're getting ready to have a party if you put this kind of information in a basic email to somebody hey look you know what part of it is texture part of it is the sound part of it is whatever people are going to be a little more open-minded to it by the same token you need to do the same thing for the kinksters that experience the swinger side of it for the first time because there's the misconception that swingers are dirty because we have sex with anybody, that there's no trust or there's no, you know, we're just randomly on a fuck express. A fuck train. You know, that's what we're doing, but there's more to it than that. Or most a lot of times. So, you know, if you help we're doing, but there's more to it than that, or most, a lot of times. So, you know, if you help set the expectations for everybody so they're more realistic, so that everybody, they're already somewhat open-minded because they've agreed to come to a party where there's going to be a plethora, a buffet, if you will, of activities to partake in, right? So they're already open-minded a little bit more. You ever notice all my stuff leads to food?
Speaker4: I don't know so but i mean it you know so they're already somewhat open-minded but then plan your party to help people have success with what they see so let them let them know now i guess the biggest caution thing i would throw out there is if if it's something that's really a hardcore kink maybe maybe i don't want to say a fringe kink you might not want to include something like that if you have real newbie you know yeah in the lifestyle because it can be it can be pretty intimidating so you know kind of kind of keep that in mind the other thing is i would caution is don't make it so that the kinksters that all they're doing the whole night of the party is quote-unquote working because you know what they're they're they want to experience obviously the kink that they enjoy but they also are there to experience the other aspects of it so they don't want to just be there the whole night and do nothing but put on a seminar and then leave i mean so you know you kind of want to make sure that that the questions and everything it's like okay enough with the questions let's get them on to doing what they want to do right a little bit as well and then the other thing is oh my god please put in there do not try this at home yeah i mean somebody you shouldn't have to tell people that no but you're better off to have one of them show you yeah i i promise you there have been people that have watched knife play because here's the the knives you know what they, pocket knives, kitchen knives. They're all, you know, different weights and feels and whatever, but they're just knives. And I promise you, someone left to their own devices will go home and try that and cut the shit out of somebody. I don't know. You let me try it on you. I did let you try that on me. I did. That was, but you were very careful. You were very careful, and I was very watchful to make sure you were being very, I wasn't super relaxed and enjoying the moment. I was pretty damn pretty watchful. I don't know. You know, the other thing, though, you want to include in that email, and this is really important also and we learned this we learned this in a roundabout way there's kind of like rules when you're watching it you know when you're when you're watching kink like it's not okay and you should why do we have to tell people this i don't know because you do it's not okay to go up to somebody that's got like their bag of toys paddles whatever and start digging through their shit and touching their stuff they get a little upset yeah that is like a no you don't you don't just start touching their stuff i mean you shouldn't walk into somebody that has a bag full of dildos and just start grabbing them out and touching it either but definitely the gangster you don't you don't do that and the other thing is be quiet when you're watching i mean if you and i don't know no one's ever said hey everybody really needs to be quiet with this no but it's kind of like a you heard some talking in the background but it was quiet whispers it's you if you allow yourself to get caught in the moment and to really focus on what's going on in front of you,
Speaker3: it's fucking hot.
Speaker4: Well, I have to say, even watching the rope play, everyone was quiet. Yeah, because it's intriguing.
Speaker1: You may not necessarily want to do it, but it's hot. It's intriguing, and if you just allow yourself to do that. And it kind of comes along with respect. But then it's the same thing with you know two couples or you know two people are fucking you don't just walk up and slap your dick in the middle of it hey here's my wiener too i mean people people do that but but that's a fucking horrible way to do it disrespectful it's disrespectful So make sure that you're also showing your kinksters the right way to swing also. That's pretty good. Okay, so I don't have another question, but I think I wanted to touch on more just with kinksters and swingers. Because we're really fortunate. A big group that we hang out with out here in in our woods we have a lot of of both right and like our page that we run we have one of the few pages we have a lot and we encourage a lot of kinksters and swingers we encourage both man i can't stress it enough everything about the lifestyle we do the lifestyle for like unique experiences like experiences, like a unique person. Like, I want to do somebody different, okay? Experiences are the same thing. Open your mind. Open your mind to at least look at or watch or listen to when somebody talks about some of these other kinks. Because, you know, we know all varying degrees we know uh some folks that uh they have a sub dom relationship that is full-time uh you know is that for everybody no but it works awesome for them and it's really cool to hear to to talk with them about it because it's a unique experience right so just be open to seeing and experience what else is out there instead of just automatically going oh that's gross or oh i'm not going to want to do that or oh my god i can't believe people do that you know give it a chance because you might find some part of it that you will absolutely love i mean i don't think people realize that like the whole you know hand on the throat thing that's a that's a form of a kink you know or like or like uh you know maybe there's somebody on a podcast like right here here, real close, that, you know, really gets off when somebody calls him daddy. Just saying. Okay, that's a, send me a card. But I mean, but that's a form of a kink, right? But it's something that for a long time we didn't do. We didn't, well, when we were Vanillas. Shoot, I don't know if i still call you daddy uh no you you don't as much as much as you want no no but the nice thing is uh the nice thing is is that there's one somebody i play with regularly that does so and that that's that's awesome i'm trying to get you both to get necklaces say say daddy's girl on it. Oh, Jesus. All right. What a great place to stop, huh? Perfect. So, thanks again. This has been another episode, obviously, of Crazy Truth. Let's take just a moment, and you're going to start to thank our sponsors once again. Go get them at Samantha. Well, I didn't think you were done talking. I'm sorry. Yeah, I know. It's hard to believe. I know. It really is. Babble. Okay. Are you looking for lollipops with adult shapes for any special occasion? Bachelor, bachelorette parties, gag gifts, and more. They have tons of gourmet flavors that are shipped right to your door. Order yours today at www.naughtypopsnow.etsy.com and tell them Crazy Truth sent you. Good job. Chief me. All right, we also want to do a big shout-out to Club G, where friends and pleasure come together. Visit Club G, the hottest new lifestyle club in Des Moines.
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