Would Have Explored Earlier?

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. Hello everybody, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot White Podcast. And of course, the brains behind the whole operation, I'm here with Vince. And the looks too. It's really the Hot Husband Podcast. You know, I keep forgetting that. Okay. Pardon me. It is the Hot Husband Podcast. It really is. Oh, I know. That's why I always give you credit. Sure. Yeah. That happens. Never. Oh, come on. I'm just, I'm being loving and kind. Yeah. So today we had a little interesting, I want to use the word, interlocutor. But I don't know if that's really the right term. But my buddy came by. Oh. And I have a cigar. I haven't seen him. Sexual interlude. No, I'd say sexual. Okay, you said interesting. Yes. Interesting interlude. So we've, you know, he and his wife are vanilla, not to his liking. And so we shared some of the going-ons lately. And I thought I heard an explosion. He lives vicariously through us. He's always like, what are you guys doing? We'll talk about, you know, how the job's going, blah. Then we'll say, yeah, we'll talk about, you know, that we met a really hot couple last night. We had fun and drinks. And he's like, what's going on here? Like, you know, forget about the other stuff. Let's get back to the sex. We shared pictures of a couple of other couples. Yeah, that we played with on the deck. And he was like, I love your videos. So we even told him about Elle and Sterling. Yeah, we showed, yeah, He was like, oh my God, she's so fucking hot. He's like, oh, you guys, you're living this life. And we're like, dude, this is just normal. He was all kinds of beside himself. He goes, I don't see you for two months and what the fuck, I come back and all this shit's going on. It was, well, stay tuned, you know, reach out more. He could be a part of it, you know, early on. And so dumping Leo. A whole shitstorm of sexual prowess on him, you know, and experiences. Not like I don't have cigars and he couldn't come by, but his job, he travels a lot. It's just like his head was ready to explode. That just cracked me. Oh, it's always interesting. Yeah, every time. He knows what we do. That's the thing. But he still acts like it's a huge surprise. It's like, what? And then like I said, right before, yeah, you had went to go do something else. And he said to me, he goes, you know, those videos you have, I mean, if you ever want to share them with your buddy. So I airdropped him three videos. Yeah, you told me about that. You know, he's sitting at home with hand cramps right now. Oh, no doubt. So good for him. And you see him, that hot, that we were with. Two from the couple. Yeah. And then one when you were with that young black guy who's a contractor. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. He was on the show here. Oh, yes. Yes, he was. Yeah, he flipped me around. I don't know what video you gave. Well, that's a whole show in itself that I want to talk about. Here's some of those things you were looking for. Okay. Thank you. That's a thing I don't necessarily get, that there are certain men, they tend to be bigger men or more well-endowed men, that tend to like to pick women up, especially if you're smaller. Right, right. And like, you know, fuck you standing up. I think I was upside down. there for a while. Yeah, and upside down. It's just like... Dude, the blood's going to my head. They might like it, but do you know if your partner likes that? Good question. Yeah, that's something you should probably clear with them first, especially with the shoulder problems that I have. I'm like, does he know I've had a shoulder replacement? He's flipping me around and upside down like... I've even seen other videos on the internet where... with the big dicks. You know, guys with the little dicks can't really do that because they'll lose, you know, connection. But it's just like, it doesn't even look fun. I mean, I want to, I want to, no, it doesn't even look fun for me, I'm saying. It's just like, okay, you're kind of, you're trying to put out all this effort to hold the person there, make sure they don't fall or get hurt or whatever. And are you really able to concentrate on the sensation? I mean, I get that. The danger part might be alluring, but whatever. I guess. All right. Well, whatever. That section's over. Yeah, you get into that stance, you get a cramp. Oh. Well, you know. Kind of takes all the... You get ballsy one day and you say, well, she's a little heavier than the last one. Let me see. You know. So the doctor says, how'd you get this hernia? Well, I'm helping somebody up on my... That could be pretty embarrassing. But yeah, it was interesting though. Okay. Yeah. I just don't get it. But there's a lot of things I don't get. Simple, you know, long division. I don't get it. Well, I know a lot of people can't do that. So I get it. I get it. So due to that conversation we had with my buddy and everything else that went on there, You know, two of the couples more recently that we talked with, the new couple we met last night that was hoping to come on the show today, but their schedule didn't permit them. So much fun. So I don't want to talk them up too much because I really want them on the show. We'll get them on the show. You know, she's a little dynamite. Oh, yeah. They're both interesting. You know, they've been in the lifestyle for a year. We have Sterling and Elle, who are not really in the lifestyle. He kind of was. Right. He's still dabbling on the fringe. They have a profile on a Swinger website. Right, right. So, baby steps. The concept for tonight's show was that, you know, we've been in it 20 years, okay? Correct, yeah. So, that means like when you were 45. Yeah, I started. We got into it roughly in the 40s, okay? Yeah, I was in my 40s. So, I was in my 30s. So, we've talked about your prowessness when you were younger and everything else. Right, I was pretty young. I don't have the relationship base that you have. I mean, my first marriage, we did swing of sorts. The woman I dated there for a while who wouldn't even touch me, I wouldn't even think about getting her to swing. I mean, she's gorgeous and guys would love to, but they had been disappointed. Oh, that's harsh. Again, she was nice body back then. I don't know what it is now. She's great on the eyes. Right. But she wouldn't touch you. Yeah, she didn't do oral. Didn't even touch you with her hand and stuff like that. That's kind of part of sex to fondle. That you know is not going to go over well for a swinging profile. Not even a little bit. No. It's like, so you don't do this. Well, we met guys that don't do oral on women. Sure. And I was taken aback. So, I mean. Well, I don't do oral. See? I'm so glad we're having this conversation and clear that right up. I would have thought otherwise, but hey, I'm glad you're transparent in your beliefs. So many things. So the concept is, and it'll be for you, is in your various past relationships, like the one you were in in college. I know automatically where that one, if you were to ever have broached, And you had actually asked, I want you to tell the story. Okay. You had actually asked about bringing home another woman. Oh, that was the one before him. Oh, okay. That was the one before him. Yes, I mean, it's been like, Albie probably would have been the one who would go into swinging more than anybody else. In fact, we did do a threesome, but before that, he was the same person when I was in my teens, and he was in his, Like early twenties, he was like, I told him, I said, Hey, I have this fantasy. I'm, I'm with another woman and I found it really hot. And, you know, I was telling him like, um, one of my desires and I got such an awful negative feedback from him. He was like, you know, something like, you know, get out of here with your fucking lesbian, you know, fantasies and blah. I'm like, what the, what the fuck's going on here? And then of course, I think I've, I've told this story before. So forgive me. And like, I'd say seven years later, he had a girlfriend, and we all became kind of friends, and we ended up having a threesome. It's like, dude, we could have fucking been doing that, you know, seven years prior, but no, you're all upset about, you know, lesbian fantasies I was having. You don't have to get her upset. He's dead now. I know. But it's like, it's that kind of mentality. Sure. If he, we could have been swinging back then, you know, with him, because he was, he would have been more, once he got into that, I mean, we did do that. a threesome, so if that just would have kept going. But he just, you know, he was fun to fuck back then. You know, but a relationship that I had with him, no. No, it just wasn't. If I would have had something else and he was just there to, as a playmate, it would have been fine. But, you know, being in a relationship. Now, the next one. Okay, the next guy. This is the one that wanted to make you wear a burka, right? Yes. Then I went like, geez, this is awful. Yeah, he also has passed. So we met in college, and I'm still a little wild. I'm starting to get afraid for my life. No, what? Yeah, that's terrible. I'm starting to outlive old boyfriends. Yikes. But yeah, he was very needy, very clingy. I guess- Well, he was a mama's boy. He was a mama's boy. Well, that's all they had. His dad died when he was 30, so John never knew. Well, the dad died in his 30s. John wasn't 30. No, he was 30 as well. No, but when his dad died, John wasn't 30. No, he was four months old. So his dad died at 36, ironically. So he didn't have that male counterpart really making him be a man. Showing him away, yeah. Yeah, so his whole sexual identity was from a matriarchy, like his mom, because she was kind of overbearing, lovely woman. But that played into his sexual fantasies and what he desired. And he wanted me to be subservient to him. That was his thing. And I don't play that game. I don't know. I'm... Why don't you shut up? Yeah, exactly. He was just too clingy, too needy, too... to, I don't want anybody else having you. And that was just such a turnoff. I mean, the more he clung to me, the more I wanted freedom. It's like, dude, just let me be me. Let me be me. And so that relationship, well. Well, and the funny part. Didn't end. We talked about that. It's true because of that. Yeah, I think when we talked about it before, he didn't want you to even be dancing. No, no. Swinging, you got to be kidding me. Wasn't willing to get a job that made enough money. that you didn't have to. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So screw you. I'm, you know, do what I have to do. But yeah, there would be no swinging in that relationship at all. Not even, not even a little bit, you know. So let's go on to bachelor number three. You know, the young wild one. I went this way, man. I just did a, you know, John was like two years older than me. So I went the exact opposite. After he passed away, I was like, I went young guys, young, you know, because of that excitement. And I was 30. and number three was 21, so it was. Oh, really? Yeah, there's nine years difference. Yeah, so hey, again, if I could just keep that as a fuckmate, a playmate, it would have been fine. In the early days, he was fun to fuck. He was, you know, lively and, you know, exciting and spontaneous, and that's great, but relationship-wise, no way. No way. He was just too flighty, too, who were selfish. The sex was fun. I got to admit that the sex was fun. But anything else, he's very selfish. Very selfish in lifestyle. He became a little freaky. He kept talking about being freaky again. He had told me in confidence that maybe he had an attraction for men. And of all the people that he could have been with. I'm not thinking there was a maybe there. Hey, it was maybe at the time. I don't know. I don't care. But of all the people, I would probably would have been the most accepting of that. But he was such a douchebag on everything else. It's like, oh my God, I should have just cut that relationship off like one night stand or maybe two months of hot and heavy and then cut it off. And that would have been fine. That would have been fine. I don't think you would have done well in the lifestyle with him because of his personality. Yeah, he's very cocky. He was very boastful and like a braggart. He thought his shit didn't stink. Yeah. And in the early days, he was very sweet, but he became more so with that, and that became a real turnoff for me. Real turnoff for me. So, you know, it brings us to us. Oh, boy. Let me turn your mic down now. So, she's going to just tell you basically how perfect I am. just incredible as a person and love her and all the stuff. So I'm saving her. She's getting a dry mouth right now. So I'm trying to save her, you know, from getting a sore throat or something. Oh, yeah. Stop it. So I just feel like I went the gamut with my sexual endeavors with long, quote, long-term relationships. You know, I went from somebody who was totally needy, somebody who was, like, very selfish and, you know, whatever. And so I met you, which you seem to be, like, the middle of the road. You're fun, you're spontaneous, but you're also very dependable and you're settled and you're somebody I can talk to and be an adult with Mr. Fuck Number Three. I was talking to a child. But you have some childlike attributes which are fun because you're spontaneous and you think outside the box. So, ah, I lucked out. What can I tell you? I lucked out. That's all I can say. That's one opinion, but okay. I mean, that's what, and well, we always say that a relationship is more than just the sex. It's, you have to have something else. The sex might be great. And all those other relationships, which you can attest, they were all based on a sexual attraction first. And they were fun. And they were, I should have gone through it. I learned stuff. I learned, you know, how to have an orgasm with one person, riding, you know, in different positions. And so that gave me a lot of education, but the person to have a relationship with, not so much. And that's why I'm really glad that you and I have that missing piece that those other relationships just didn't have. Sure. I mean, you've even told me you've had great sex with other women, but that little, you know, long-term, do I really want to wake up with them every fucking day? Yeah. Not so much. I'm divorced from the one. Yeah, like the one I talk about that was easy on the eyes, but was a great section. I mean, we did. I would equate my relationship with her outside of the bedroom to what we have. Yes, you always say you guys did a lot more things than going to concerts and the blues festivals and the spontaneity, going down the shore. A different time. Yeah, it was. Pre-kids. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, the bedroom sucked. Oh. Not in a good way. Oh. See, that's what made our romantic part even better because we had the banter of us just being business partners. But I don't know. It just seemed to even make its way into the bedroom as well with being creative with us as business partners as well as our are sexual little adventures. You know what I'm saying? And we've talked about this on air before. The one thing that's important, obviously, is communication in any relationship, especially in a lifestyle relationship. Hell yeah. And again, being able to tell your partner what you want. Yeah. Or ask them what do they want. Yeah, and not be ridiculed. What are your hot buttons? Yeah, we did that the other week. Yeah, exactly. You know, and finding out what they are and taking note of them. Maybe they don't realize that's a hot button. You know, like if under normal conversation, if I said to you, what really turns you on? And I've done that in the past. We even did on the show. You didn't mention the whole thing like your feet being rubbed while your pussy's getting eaten or fucked or, you know. Oh, yeah. But that's just a little, one of those little things. The little things. Someone, you know, that you're with might hopefully pick up on and, you know, save it in the back, you know. Right, right. But, Yeah, because like we've talked about, unfortunately, we spend more time outside the bedroom than we do in the bedroom. Yeah, that's how it is, right? That's life. Yeah, unfortunately, you know, unless you are a content creator full time, you just fuck for a living. God bless you. But yeah, there's people making good money. God bless them. Yeah, you know, I mean, it depends on what lifestyle you want to lead. You know, we do some, not, I like creating the content because it's still kind of special it's fun, it's erotic I get to explore different fetishes especially with that one wild couple that was here I don't usually have people spit into my mouth that's not usually something I do hard to believe but at the time it just seemed very erotic and raw and I just went with it obviously yeah it looked like it Yeah, and it was like, oh, like she would spit like on her hand and like rubber it all over my face and like on my nipples. And I was like, holy shit, these people are really erotic. I mean, in a very raw way. I knew they liked it a little more rough, but it was like raw and rough. You know what I mean? A little bit more rough. It was, I guess I can't say it was rough sex. Maybe it was more like vigorous sex, but it was very raw, very, very primal. Animalistic. Animalistic. Thank you. That was neat. I got a chance to just kind of step into that realm. She really enjoys watching him have sex. They admitted that. Right, right. While you and he were playing, I'm watching, and she didn't miss a trick, man. She was watching everything that went on and enjoying it, touching herself to it. Yeah, she was. Cool. That was really erotic. It was neat because, like I said, it's not the usual playmate that I've had that's a little more passionate, a little more tender, and they were a little more aggressive and kind of like taking control, which is always titillating to me because I like to dabble in that ledge of the BDSM world and being subservient. But I don't want to live that lifestyle. I don't want it to be too demeaning either. I just want to just dabble in being subservient. And having somebody take control of me the way they kind of did. That was very cool. But here we are, full circle, and in the swing life, I don't think this would have ever worked with any of my other relationships. So that's why I'm going to wrap this up. That's it. I think I talked about before how my ex-wife, she liked the concept of swinging, but she didn't want to see me with anyone. Yeah. Okay. So the one time I actually got to play with somebody was actually one of her best friends. And it was very tough for her to watch. And so she wound up going in the other room with the guy she was playing with at the time. And then her girlfriend told her that she was divorced about a year or so and admitted that her husband had never given her an orgasm. That's a crime. And I gave her multiples. And she... That is a crime. She, you know, went and was rather... Wanted to talk about it. And there was no one she could talk about it to but my wife at the time. Oh, no. Yeah. And, you know, so it was interesting. Very... I guess it got really awkward. Did they ever... Not for me, but... No, they got along. Okay. But it was just... She eventually got over it and then... She eventually took a slight stance like you do of like, oh, I'm proud of him. Okay. That's nice. She still didn't want to see it. And, you know, again, it gets into part of my divorce thing. Yeah, that's one thing I never understood. It's like if you're in the lifestyle, you have to be mature enough to allow your mate to play with somebody else. That's what swapping is about. Or you shouldn't be in the lifestyle. Or you shouldn't be in the lifestyle. And she was kind of like, I want to be in the lifestyle. I want to fuck other people. but you not so much. Yeah. And it's like, well, that's really not fair at all. It should be equal. If one person, you know, starts doing it every night and it really becomes an issue with a relationship, okay, I got it. But, you know, just letting you play when she gets to play. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Then the real problem came where she started to play behind my back. Yeah, and that's, you know, okay, now it's not playing. Now it's cheating. You know, when you're not transparent with your partner, about what you're doing, who you're fucking, and how you're doing it, now it's cheating. It's that simple. I don't care. I don't have any stance on it. You want to cheat? Cheat. I've done it. I've been there. And now with swinging, it's not cheating. All I have to do is tell you, hey, I saw so-and-so. He came over. We had a good time. I fucked him. Or you tell me even beforehand. Beforehand or whatever. Like this coming Saturday. Yep. I have a hot, It's not a hot date or meeting a friend in a hotel. Fingers crossed. This will go off. I texted him today. He's a lot of fun. So he's really into being on film again with me because every time he would reach out to me and be like, I watched that video again. He goes, that was so fucking hot. And I'm like, well, let's see if we can do that again. And so he's all about it. So we'll take the cameras up to the hotel and then we can have some fun. and, you know, document it. So we'll see what happens. Fingers crossed, right? I'll set the cameras up and I'll leave and you guys have your fun. Then when you watch it, it'd be like a surprise. Sure. Kind of nice. Yep. That's a deal. So we'll see how it goes. Okay. All right. You think we wrapped this up? I think we kind of covered it. I know, kind of meander all over the place. You know, be interested in hearing from people. at hotwifepodcast.com. If there's ever been anyone in your life, current or present, that you think would have... Current is present. I'm sorry. Past or present. Past or present. I'm sorry. I'm trying to do something else while I'm doing this. That you think would have been interested in the lifestyle or you would have had interest in or... Another interesting one is people that have run into people from the past like you did your high school friends. Oh, and they are in the lifestyle. They're in the lifestyle. That's always been one of my little... fantasies is to bump into somebody. A female. I've bumped into the men. Yeah, well, men are more likely to be in the lifestyle than women, typically. They're a little more adventurous. But yeah, it's like your buddy from high school, he showed up to one of our swing parties, the photo parties, and it was like, hey, dude. You actually got to do the erotic part. It was somebody, it was really erotic, the fact that Sterling is, you know, someone you went to high school with, you were friends with, and you didn't realize, He had a crush on you. No. Yeah. Not so much. Yeah. And he was like, I got your high school picture. I'm like, well, that's a little bit. He still has it on his phone. Yeah. I can honestly say I have nobody I went to school with on my phone. Yeah. Male, female, pet, nothing. Yeah. He had my like high school, you know, those, the pictures, graduation pictures. Yeah. Yeah. He has one from a reunion. And one from the reunion. too. Yeah. It's like he took a picture. I don't even remember that. So that's weird. He does. Oh, that's nice though. All right. I think we babbled long enough. That's fine. We bored him. I'm sorry guys. So with that said, again, thanks everyone for listening. Um, and, uh, check out the free magazine, 50 shades of pleasure.com. It's a hot one. Yeah. I like this one. And, uh, you know, it's free. Check it out. Please read it. If you want to submit articles, I have it. Check out hotwifedialin.com. See what I'm doing. And I definitely want to get some of these really hot videos up. Yeah, they're produced now that you just got to post them. Okay. Thank you, dear. I want to watch them first. Again, love to hear your comments, questions, things you want us to talk about, maybe. You know, so reach out to us, info at Hot Wife Podcast. And with that, stay horny. And have a great night, everybody.