In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince explore various themes surrounding relationships, intimacy, and societal norms. They celebrate the podcast's milestones, engage with their audience, and delve into the topic of double standards regarding toplessness for men and women. The conversation touches on cultural perspectives on nudity, body image, and the intersection of fashion and freedom, ultimately advocating for equality in topless rights. TakeawaysThe podcast is intended for adults over 18.Listeners are encouraged to engage and share their stories.There is a double standard regarding toplessness in public.Cultural perspectives on nudity vary significantly across regions.Desensitization to nudity could lead to more acceptance in society.Women should have the option to go topless if they choose.Fashion can play a role in how nudity is perceived.The hosts reflect on their own experiences with body image.The conversation highlights the importance of community engagement.The episode concludes with a call for listener feedback on topless rights.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, you call me fat? Speaker2: No, I'm here with Vince. Of course. Because he's doing all the heavy lifting here. Oh, you call me fat? No, I would never do that, dear. Oh, okay. Now all the technical stuff. Oh, okay. Kind of like the engineer. I'm just sitting in front of a microphone. That's it. And looking pretty. Oh, that's what I'm doing. I think so. Okay. Yeah, have something. Drink a little bit more, baby. I'm guzzling over here. I have another drink. I'm guzzling. I want to look gorgeous. These beer goggles, right? I have to run out to the liquor store before they close. Hold on. I know. You know you're sexy. Oh, God. Here we go. Oh, shit. Anyway, just launched the new version of Fifty Shades of Pleasure. Speaker1: I was just looking at it. The 2025 version, first January 1. Speaker2: Wow. Speaker1: I'm not sure when I started. I could look. I have it in front of me. When the first issue was last year. I don't think it's been a year yet. I really don't. It's January 2024. Get out of here. Speaker2: Exactly. Speaker1: There was a couple months we missed. Thank you. year um i don't think it's been a year yet i really it's january 2024 get out of here there was a couple months we missed okay so technically the magazine's been a year and technically this show is almost four the fourth year fourth season for us crap that's a lot of shows i didn't i didn't think we'd have that much crap to talk about i i still don't think we do. I mean, you and I talk about everything under the sun, so it just makes sense. We're going to start doing swinger podcasts about, you know, what do you do with all the leaves you rake up in the yard? Oh, that's hot. I didn't say it was hot. I just said everything to talk about. You can make anything sound sex. Not sexy, but just sexual. Speaker2: Dirty. Speaker1: Oh, yeah, rake it, baby. Yeah, get in there. I want to see the dirt underneath. We'll see you next time. things sound sex not sexy but just sexual dirty oh yeah rake it baby yeah get in there i want to see the dirt underneath yeah i haven't had that much of drink yet you do that you do that when you're sober that's a frightening part just got done nine hour day so i'm kind of yeah burned out yeah but um yeah so 50shadesofpleasure.com free magazine magazine, looking for people to write articles, reviews, whatever you might want to do, and submit it. You can just email us at info at hotwifepodcast.com. If you have stories or experiences or whatever, love to hear it. You know, I'd even like to hear your comments on the magazine. It's free. Don't pitch too much. I just, I like the picture you dug up. I think that was one of the first pictures you actually took of me before we were a thing. A couple? Before we were a couple. No, the first pictures were up in your bedroom, and then the other ones were up at the lake. This was a little after that. A little after that. I do remember, it was like early in our relationship. Yeah, it was early. And it was winter, so it kind of fit the time. Oh, yeah, my husband never shy of getting me out there to pose naked no matter what, or semi... We were his friends back then. I know, I know, but you were always, you know, getting me to take me. You're talking about the photo. If you go to 50shadesofpleasure.com, it's in this month's letter to the editor. It's a picture I did of Donna in a local community park. Ooh. So it was after snow. Uh-huh. I'm not naked, but my shirt is open. Teasing. Let's put it that way. Very teasing. Almost a little pubic region. Almost. And almost a nipple. Almost. Also, we want to invite you to write to us about this show, info at hotwifepodcast.com. If you have anything you want to ask or questions or comments or suggestions for a show and we do read them and answer them yeah so yeah like the gentleman who wrote in about the uh three-way thing oh yes yes so i emailed him and told him that that show was posted so he could hear it well i'm still not sure what he really wanted because it was just so cryptic. Well, he didn't respond either way, so I wrote to him and said, hey, we posted the show. We did a show about that.
Speaker2:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
We try to accommodate as much as we can with what people are interested in hearing about. So, I mean, but he was so cryptic, I wasn't sure what he was getting at. You only have like four letters. He could be, you know, shy, I don't know. Yeah. Anyway. We did the best we could with what we had, so. Made something out of it. Oh, sure. Yeah, it was a topic that was interesting. It was interesting. The numbers that listen to the show seemed like they were interested, so it's good. I like that. So, tonight tonight's show let the nipples free or why can men run around topless but women can't in general public i'm not talking about nudist camps but just tends to be like a double standard there just in general you know it is um it's just not fair and well i I don't mean it from a sexual sense. No. I mean, okay, sexually would be great. Don't get me wrong. But, you know, there's plenty of men with big boobs running around with no shirts on. And they shouldn't be. And I don't want to see that. And there should be some kind of a piece of clothing to hide that. Well, then we can get into the whole sleeveless thing, but that's another story, too. Oh, yeah, that's another story. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, okay, so if it was legal to just go topless, I mean, you do at our pool, which is kind of private. Right. But if you were allowed to go topless, would you cut the lawn topless? absolutely not okay i'm just asking well only because there's several deciding factors there like weed whacking cutting the lawn i'm talking about hazards okay about like weeding the yard like when you go and like work on the doing the stuff on the hill and stuff that might be i see i had it jumped my brain as an early, early age for my mother that gravity is not a woman's friend. And you know from a guy's testicles, gravity is not a friend to men either. And as those things just sag down, I don't want my tits to sag. And they are not sagging. And I'm not going to have them sag. So I wear a bra. Outside of that. Yeah, I would. I'd take that, you know.
Speaker2:
Like, if I didn't have to worry about, you know, saggage and, you know, being uncomfortable,
Speaker3:
then yeah, I probably would.
Speaker2:
And you're saying sag is just from a personal comfort level.
Speaker1:
Yeah, personal comfort level. Because I'm saying, you know, I'm going to talk about the women who have saggy breasts. Yeah, and if they're comfortable with it, that's fine.
Speaker2:
It's fine, yeah. It's not, you know.
Speaker1:
It's like painful for me.
Speaker2:
It hurts.
Speaker1:
Well, you have implants, so.
Speaker2:
I don't know. about the women who have saggy breasts. Yeah, and if they're comfortable with it, that's fine. It's like painful for me. It hurts.
Speaker3:
Well, you have implants, so they weigh.
Speaker2:
Well, yeah, mine do. I have a lot of other women that have implants, and they're like, no, it doesn't bother me at all. I'm like, man, I'm out of a bra for like 15 minutes, and I want to die. It pulls on the skin because they're heavy.
Speaker1:
These little suckers are heavy, and they're not that big, but they are heavy. Well, and your body frame. Yeah, they're big enough that it causes discomfort. So, no, I'd rather just keep them covered enough. Would you be offended seeing women walking around topless, like out working in the yard, cutting, you know? Where do women go? You know, if you're at a public pool, women being topless? No, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care. There'd be a lot of other people that might care, but I wouldn't care. I think as a society, I mean, not that they're not sexual, but men's nipples are sexual. How many men do we know that like them pinched and bitten and all that stuff? I've been with a couple like that. Yeah, so how does it make it different for a man? I don't know. It would make it different for a woman but not a man. Well, there's also the thing of, you know, this is when I was still dancing and we had to wear those stupid pasties. I'm like, okay, why do I have to wear them? Well, you know, you might be lactating. I'm like, how many people, how many women are pregnant that are working here? Or just had a baby. Or just had a baby. They're going to be lactating. Like, none? Well, how about these big, fat men with their shirts off, or even just men in general? Sweating. Sweating. Okay, it's, you know, that's a bodily fluid. It sure is. I agree. I don't know. There's just a double standard. I mean, how much lactating milk do you see flying around the air anyway? When I was dancing, even the nude clubs I worked at, there was one girl that was pregnant, and she was lactating a little bit. But that's 20 years of dancing, 22 years of dancing, and 18 of those years dancing nude. So it's a very small... How many guys would have probably paid extra to have her squirt milk in their mouth? You know, I'm pretty sure they would. Not me, but there are some. There are some. Yeah, my ex-wife forced me to try hers. It was disgusting. Oh, you think so? Yeah, it didn't taste good to me.
Speaker2:
No, it wasn't.
Speaker1:
I always thought that it might be kind of, you know, it might taste kind of good. I'm not a milk fan to begin with. Yeah, I get it. You know, now this warm milk, too, is like, ooh, ooh. Yeah, okay, I get it. That's cold. I mean, hey, I've had plenty of women squirt in my mouth, so it's a warm fluid, and it tastes good to me. So if I say it didn't taste good, it wasn't like it skeeved me. It just wasn't something.
Speaker2:
It's like, no,
Speaker1:
exactly.
Speaker2:
No,
Speaker1:
I get it.
Speaker2:
Yeah. Not,
Speaker1:
not ordering it that next time I go to the bar, I'll stick with my bourbon. Stick to bourbon. I think it's safer.
Speaker2:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
I see, I wouldn't be offended. I wouldn't be offended at all, but I think that there's a lot of people that would be offended.
Speaker2:
Mm-hmm.
Speaker1:
The general public.
Speaker2:
And there is,
Speaker1:
it's still that double standard,
Speaker2:
you know,
Speaker1:
men can do one thing. Women are not really allowed to, so, I, I don't know, it's, it's. Yeah, I mean. I don't know what to say. The topless thing for me isn't an issue. If a woman wanted to, I mean, in all honesty, if a woman can't go topless, a man shouldn't be allowed. I, I agree. I mean, again, I'm trying to remove the sexuality out of it. Right, exactly. Because a man can look at a woman topless and go, oh, my God. But how many women look at a guy with a nice chest and go, oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's sexual. It's the same thing. I just think it's. But it's okay for a guy who's got a chiseled body and big chest.
Speaker2:
Thank you.
Speaker1:
Who's all muscular and got ripply abs. Okay, you're embarrassing me. I know, sorry. You're embarrassing me, okay. That's fine. You're allowed to see that. But a woman with nice breasts and, oh, no, keep that covered up. Yeah, and I think if it was ever to happen where we allowed it, I think you would see people desensitized. I agree. If you see a man generally without a shirt on, you might go, you might look and just move on. Like, ooh, that's nice. Yeah, you take it in and move on. It's not like you're like, oh. Oh, I got to have that. I got a better one with my husband. No, no. But, you know, it's. I agree. And you even brought up several times in other topics and other shows that you go to Europe and, you know, their commercials are damn near soft porn and they're... That's what I hear. Yeah, that's what I hear, too. I don't know this for a fact, but, yeah, there are so much more... Certain countries, yeah. Yeah, it just seems like Europeans in general are just more laid back with that comes to
Speaker2:
new to the...
Speaker1:
You know, again, we've been a country for 250 years. They've been, you know, countries or continent. We've all been continental, but countries for thousands of years. Yeah, we're kind of new. So they had so much, you know, if you look at Europe with the art, you know, they have nudity all over the place. I mean, you know, I'm told, I don't know, but there's parts of Europe. You can go do artistic nude photography in public and no one gives a shit. Hmm. But, you know, you're not doing porn. Not doing porn, right, exactly. But in this country, I mean, hell, in Jersey, you got women getting fined for having a bikini that doesn't cover enough. Yeah, that's okay. It's like, that's really our biggest worry. Yeah, I know. I know. that's why we have our own pool fuck it you know they're gonna bust the the woman on the beach because she's wearing a french cut bikini doesn't cover enough of her ass right but meantime the illegal immigrants coming in on the boat or running across the beach you know it's like what the fuck yeah what's our problem here as they're carrying bags of fentanyl i know it. I think they're concentrating on the wrong thing. And I do believe that if we could desensitize the population, there wouldn't be this, you know, all of a sudden they see a naked body, they're like, oh my God. First of all, it wouldn't be every woman. It wouldn't be, no. I mean, if you pass that law today, it's going to take several years before you're going to see women. It's going to take a century. Well, it might, but I'm just saying, again, I think the women should have the option. I'm not saying they have to go do it, but they should have that option. It's like, okay, if a woman wants to go out and wash her car topless, she can. It's because there's some fat, big, hairy guy washing his car, and his big old titties are rubbing against the glass and no one's inside the car going, oh, yeah. You know, I want the moobs. That's what I'm looking for, yeah. Well, I give it. I carry nipples, too. That just does it for me. Well, I don't really got that, but I'll try. I'll put some Rogaine on my face. Oh, stop, that's terrible. No, that's all right. Yeah, I don't know why there's a double standard, but there is. I'm just saying, women should have that option. I actually heard there are laws, like if I wanted to, I could do like weeding and whatever around our property. I don't know if in this state it is, but I know in some states there are some states or counties or whatever, it has been passed, you know? I mean, what makes it good on some beaches but not others? I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know. I mean, sort of like the thong wall, you know? It's just like, it's an ass. Get over it. You know, if you're not going to allow thongs, you ought to permit them too, because there's some women out there wearing thongs that shouldn't be. The same as leggings. I know. You're on that crusade. I got that soapbox out. I mean, come on. Just because you're wearing leggings doesn't mean they're slimming.
Speaker2:
Exactly. Okay?
Speaker1:
If you're 400 pounds, you're still 400 pounds. Just showing every ounce of it. And then some. Yeah get it might be comfortable, and I guess, I don't know, I've never worn leggings that I'm willing to admit. I just had a picture of that in my mind. No, you didn't. You'd be throwing up. Let's call it what it is. Got one heck of a moose knuckle going on there, buddy. Yeah, well, I try. Why do women gravitate to them? Is it like you're wearing nothing? Are they that comfortable? To me, they suck for me if I was drawn to wear them because they have no pockets. Where do I put my wallet? Where do I put my keys? I do hate that. That is something I really hate about women's clothing. No pockets. I have to dress in layers or bring a purse or it sounds ridiculous. But yeah, but now they're starting to come out with leggings that do have a pocket for your phone. Yeah, I've seen some of them. I think I did buy one pair that does have a pocket for my phone. But all right, okay, it's got my phone, but what about other things? So, yeah. Well, you have a place for your vibrator. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That's mandatory. I didn't see the pocket, but I heard the buzzing. I heard the buzzing. I knew it was there. I think people, and I'm wearing my, you know, I guess they're kind of like yoga pants. So they're just easy to get in and get out of. For one listener, yes, we i'm sorry yes we sort of sort of i mean clothing is clothing or no clothing yeah i mean you know it's real sexy i've seen pictures on uh videos on instagram women wearing leggings right and like they bend over and they have the flashing butt plug in that's well there's that one that does that yoga yeah she's got the clit piercing oh myit piercing. Oh, my. She has multiple clit piercings. Yeah, or something. She does, like. That thing's a monster. She takes those pants off. I bet you it's like a goddamn Portuguese man of war down there. I'm all about that. I don't want to. Well, it's supposed to be, quote, yoga, but she's like. It's like erotic yoga. Yeah, she's like undulating, like, a lot of hip movements down on the floor. She does a good job with it. Oh, yeah. Now, seeing her do that topless would be very, very erotic. Well, her tops, she doesn't wear a bra under them. She doesn't wear a— Some of those outfits she wears, she's sweating so much, they kind of are see-through. So are the bottoms. I mean, she's not wearing— A lot of times she does wear a matching thong. The ones that I was watching. Some don't. No, no. You can see those, whatever she's got her clit pierced with, and then one she has some kind of light. I keep looking closely. Oh, my God. That's why she's getting so many hits on Instagram. It is amazing. And she's very talented, too. I mean, just getting off the topic a little bit more, too bad. I mean, her movements are so erotic. I mean, it's got to increase her. I don't remember her profile name. Yeah. Next show, I'll try to put it up there. She's really good. It's fun to watch. And it's like, yeah, I bet you she'd be really good in bed. Well, I think that's the whole thing of her yoga is to help you get in shape and get those movements so you can be better. She's actually out of. I thought she was like in Europe somewhere. No. Where's that city in the Middle East that everyone goes to, all that money and shit? Dubai. Yeah, she's in Dubai. Dubai. But she sounds like she's Russian. Yeah, when you were, I was like reading, not that I was listening to anything, I was just too busy watching her. I thought she was like, yeah, middle, like Eastern European of some sort. Sounds very Slavic.
Speaker2:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
But we'll find out.
Speaker2:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
I mean, it's very erotic to watch. She was topless. Well, if she was nude, that'd be hot. Oh my God. Yeah. You know, I think it's even more erotic that she has clothes on. Sure. You know, and so getting back to our topic, setting the nipples free, sometimes having clothing on is more erotic than being absolutely nude. Sure. You know, and especially in her case, because I'm straining to see the little light bulb that's in her butt plug or clit piercing. I don't know. Okay, so here's a judgment call. Okay, judgment. We're talking about women being able to go topless. Okay. Okay, now men can't go to a dressed-up event topless, correct? Correct. Well, I guess you could. The people having the event might not be happy. It depends on what the event is. If if that was something women could do would it now allow women to wear like an evening gown that had like a demi-bra so like if they say they had nipple piercing so their nipples could be exposed like you know that demi-bra thing oh like a little little cup to lift them up a holder just but the nipples out with the jewelry aren't kind of match the dress. Would that open that up for that? Oh, that would be erotic. That would be kind of fun. Because I've seen like on different movies and stuff that the nipples are pierced or there's some kind of jewelry on the nipples and the chains going from the neck. Like the Janet Jackson Super Bowl thing. Right. You know, so could you now go to a party topless? I mean, you technically could now. I guess it's a private party. It depends on the party. But you had, you know, nipple covers like Janet Jackson had or whatever. It depends on the party, sure. I mean, you might not want to wear it to your church outing.
Speaker2:
No.
Speaker1:
I mean, that'd be great for the parties we had gone to. Well, well, a swinger party, you kind of can, yeah. You're fine. It's kind of encouraged. Yeah, exactly. It's almost mandatory. Wait, you have a turtleneck on? Get the fuck out of my swinger party. What's wrong with you? Get the fuck out of my swinger party. Are you a sick bitch? You're wearing underwear? Get the hell out of here, you sick. Yeah, but they could have a lot more fun with it.
Speaker2:
Sure.
Speaker1:
I'm just saying, but, you know, like. Make New Year's Eve. That would change the whole company Christmas party up. Yeah, I still don't think that would. I don't think that would fly in a lot of corporate levels, though.
Speaker2:
Yeah. No.
Speaker1:
But it certainly would make New Year's Eve a little more interesting.
Speaker2:
Possibly. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it would be fun. It would be fun to do, especially if you have like an outfit that still supports you. You can still have your nipples out there, some kind of jewelry or a nipple cover or something to, you know, little bobbles or be-dazzle your titties. Whatever, you know people women get all these tattoos around the nipples and stuff like that you know well they also have those little artwork those little gems you can like kind of yeah just stick on or glue them on yeah they're kind of cool yeah i think you know it could i mean men don't get to go topless everywhere, thank God. Yeah, thank God.
Speaker1:
You know, no shirt, no shoes, no service. Yeah. But, yeah, wouldn't be real popular in the winter around here, but... No, it'd have to be a seasonal thing. Well, unless you're really brave and you want to show how big your nipples get in this cold weather. No, thank you. I'm just saying, some people might be into it, you know. We, you always see, I guess this is more the more brave of heart people skiing in their, like, little bathing suits. I guess, well, the sun is warm, but then the snow is cold, so I get it. They get, what, you know, they get that, like, six-foot pack of snow or something, so it takes forever for it to shit them out. So when it's spring, I guess, I don't ski, so.
Speaker2:
The air is warm. I don't ski, I fall. I slide. I break. I break. I tumble. Yeah, I was, yeah, I'm not much of a skier. No. No interest. But anyway, different topic. Different topic, sorry. But doing that topless would be interesting as well. Yeah, if women could go topless, same as men can, same rules would apply to the women as it does for the men. You can't go into restaurants without a top on. Right, exactly. But if you want to do work, like wash your car, or you want to go for a jog down the street, I mean, it might not be a good thing if you're big-breasted, but I'm just saying. Some of these women I see jogging, looks like they're not wearing anything anyway. I know. Beat themselves in the eyes. But I'm not complaining. One of your comments is like, oh, she jogged her titties off. Well, the ones with no titties, yeah. It's like, or they're bouncing all over the place. It's like, oh, that just looks painful to me. It just looks painful. But they should have the right. Yeah.
Speaker1:
Hey, it may not bother them, but man, it looks... Well, it doesn't mean they have to go do it.
Speaker2:
Exactly.
Speaker1:
It's like, honey, it's a law now. You're allowed to go topless, so you go topless. You have to. It's mandatory. You know, I need you to go to the grocery store topless. Well, you can't go in there topless because men can't. Exactly. That's true, too. Certainly the frozen aisle. Mm-mm. No. Well, that would be totally encouraged. Stay away from all the other aisles. Go into the frozen food section. The frozen food section. Or maybe go to the produce where they have the mister. Get all wet. It's like a 1980s fucking movie there. It's a music play. Oh, my God. Yeah, that would be interesting. So love to hear your comments on the concept of making women able to go as topless as men. You know? I mean, we have the big fat guys like me. You're not big and fat. Shut up. I'm working at it. Oh, God. That, you know, get the moobs out there. Get the moobs. You know, the guys doing construction out there topless. Well, why couldn't women be out there? Being a flag girl topless. Whatever they do. You know, if they had nice boobs, you know, traffic would stop. Oh, hell yeah. They would not need a stop sign. They just painted on them. Oh, whatever. But you will get desensitized you get desensitized i agree you know and i i think we're kind of uptight as a society with those kind of things so i mean i we're the most technologically advanced country in the world but we're the most uptight sexually yeah we, we are. Especially, I guess because,
Speaker2:
you know,
Speaker1:
the whole Puritans and all that kind of stuff, kind of when the country started. But I think that kind of mentality kind of like hangs in there. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I think that people, if they were to see it more,
Speaker2:
like you said,
Speaker1:
they'd become desensitized to it. Maybe it would be more accepting. There wouldn't be like, you know, oh my God, I can see her ankles. Oh, like you said, they'd become desensitized to it. Maybe it would be more accepting. There wouldn't be like,
Speaker2:
you know, oh my God,
Speaker1:
I can see her ankles.
Speaker2:
Oh,
Speaker1:
and you know, it's like ridiculous. Email us info at hot wife podcast. Let us know your thoughts, your concepts of, you know, whether women should be allowed to go topless like men.
Speaker2:
So yeah,
Speaker1:
I can't say why not.
Speaker2:
So anyway, thanks everyone.
Speaker1:
Have a great new year yeah and stay horny okay have a great night everybody
