The Lost Art of Kissing

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hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. Hello everybody, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot White Podcast. And here I am once again with my wonderful husband, Vince. Oh, boy. I have nobody else to introduce, so I'm leaving it go with that. No, we're just, you know. We're just hanging out, just you and I. Yeah, just chilling, which is cool. Getting ready for an upcoming storm. I think so. It looks muggy and nasty and dark out there. It feels muggy. Yeah, it's very sticky. Oh, stop.

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It was a big ass bug. I'm a big ass person, let me tell you. So, what did we determine we were talking about? Oh, the art of kissing. I don't know anything about it. I know you don't. Not a clue. It's sad. Are we talking on the cheek, the forehead, the hand? Keep going. Back of the neck? Could be. Neck, nape, inner thigh, feet. I don't care where she wants it. In her side. It's not as in his side. I might have done it in his side. Smart ass. But yeah, lips. Whichever set you want to kiss, right? Exactly. Whichever set you want. There's not a bad set of lips to kiss. Nope.

Not even a little bit. But that is the whole art of kissing. Okay. Now, I've said this before. Not that you wasn't. Oh, what? Exactly? Exactly. I actually find kissing to be more erotic than fucking. Yes, absolutely. Okay, show's over. Okay, done. Thank you. Hey, good night. And we're done. But no, I mean, do you honestly feel that way? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. It's so much more sensual. Yeah. I mean, I could suck any dick and it's all basically. And you have. And they all basically feel the same.

But when you're kissing somebody, first of all, you're closer proximity to their face and you can get the emotional responses. If I'm talking to some guy's dick, I just get a hard dick. Hopefully. If it gets soft, then I know I'm doing something wrong. I'm glad you looked at me when you said hard dick. And then when you said soft dick, you didn't look over. There you go. It's getting better. I start thinking about somebody else. There you go. That works. Whatever it takes, hon. I know you're thinking of somebody else. Yeah, exactly you go. That works. Whatever it takes, hon. Whatever it takes.

I know you're thinking of somebody else. Why should I? Yeah, exactly. Whatever gets you there. That's all that matters. So, yeah, I mean, it's so much more intimate because you are so close to their face and their expressions and eyes. Well, there's more interaction. I agree. You know, with kissing, you know, you're, you know, I always call it tongue wrestling. Almost, yeah. Okay. Almost, yeah. You know, if you're doing it right. But, yeah, no, kissing where, you know, not that fucking doesn't feel good and everything. But it's kind of, I mean, other than it feels good, do not get me wrong.

But something about, you know, you're, it's more intimate interaction, in my opinion, I guess. Yes, absolutely. I agree. And, you know, sometimes you can tell how good someone is in bed by how good they kiss.

Yeah, that's not a bad, bad way way to judge that although i had um yeah if they're like a like a lazy kisser you think probably may not be that great in bed well they're probably a bad pussy eater well that's it yeah that's a that's a good point that's a really good because you know i don't want to keep beating the drum about pussy eating but like at the party you know you know, like these girls who I'd never been with before, like when they started kissing me, they're like, that's the tongue they're talking about? It's like, yeah, apparently that's the only tongue I have.

And they're like, oh, they're like, oh yeah, forget it. I've seen where that tongue's been. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that tongue's been in her, never mind. It's been in my mouth the whole time. It never left my mouth, I swear. But no, you can tell the strength, the maneuverability. I don't know what the term would be. Yeah, I mean, yeah, athletics. Yeah, or the passion, which you can convey. Tongue gymnastics, man, yeah. You can convey so much passion in kissing alone. Mm-hmm. I agree. I mean, that's actually, I mean, I guess is kissing technically four-point? Sure, why not? Why not?

So, I mean, technically, a couple who's not had sex, they kind of have if they just were kissing. So a young couple or whatever, you know, the kissing is actually obviously the interlude to where it's going to go eventually. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's the precursor to sex down the road. Yes. Keep turning on and off here. Again, these are older headphones. I'll try to sit very still. It'll be fine.

It's only it's only us we don't callers you don't need to you know we wear the headphones a lot of times so if there's more people here we don't talk over each other so you'll if they cut out and it bothers you you don't have to wear them no it's i wear them because i can monitor the sound a little bit so anyway um yeah no i i i find kissing extreme extremely erotic no it absolutely is erotic i just it's i don't know we keep saying it's a lost art or is it a or is just kissing an art i don't think it's a lost art there's a lot of people that like to kiss i don't think it's a lost art yeah but you know what i mean i think some of the things with people like like you always heard before about like prostitutes and stuff yeah they don't kiss they don't want to kiss because it's intimate right um that might be why also you know it's another way of spreading germs you know i mean did covid put a kibosh on that i don't know you can kiss from six feet away.

You can kiss me, but you have to wear your mask. You have to wear a condom. Put a condom on your mask. Failed at blowing up a balloon. Yeah, I don't know. You might be right about that. Yeah.

So in the process of kissing, what are the aspects that you enjoy um geez what do what does somebody i can't say you're male or female for you right for me i can only say female right but for you what someone kissing you what um what are the aspects that you really enjoy um i like a first i like to start with a soft kiss like a tender kiss and you don't get too you know too over the top to start with some you know some tongue play and work your way up um the gentleman that was here last night had his thing that he liked to um bite my lip a little bit which was unusual and that was kind of fun.

I'm not usually into that because, you know, it could end very badly if you're not careful. Well, let's say you turn your head. No, I've done that in the past. Yeah, but I like it once in a while. I don't like it too much. Yeah, no, it can't be all the time. No, no. It's distracting. It is distracting, but I do like it, but only once in a while. Especially, I think, I don't like it in the beginning. I like a buildup, a buildup of kissing. You know, I don't want to just start off. The best way to do it, in my opinion, for Dadsworth, is, yeah, you start out with just gentle little soft kisses.

Yeah, exactly. You know, your hands have to be involved. Right. You know, you have to be touching and caressing. Right. You know, not around the neck.

that's what you want to do to me come on that's how i kiss you yeah i love you dear but um you know and then like you know for me it's it's like yeah like like then run my hand up like the back of her neck and just run my fingers up through the hair a little bit and just you know and kind of help adjust her head to the angle that i'm going or opposite that i'm going actually but or whatever whatever or you know grabbing it pushing it down to my crotch um kiss this now you're jumping ahead i'm jumping right to head that's right that's exactly right to head right to head. That's right.

Jumping right to head. Right to head. You're incorrigible. There's just no getting around that. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. That way you have a good position of where the lips will line up. Yeah, and then even to grabbing them and pulling them in close.

Again, I know a lot of women, because I'm a big guy, pulling them in and almost like a bear hug like just you know making them feel secure i guess that's what that is yeah it makes sense sure you know you grab or whatever you reach around and i grab them their ass but you know like my hands will you know generally if you haven't i can encompass the whole woman's ass with my hands and you pull them in close and kind of like just slowly grind on them while you're kissing oh that's always erotic that's the goal well I would hope so I mean so now do you enjoy when somebody's kissing you and they like do that or even start to slowly undress you or like just unbutton your pants or come up under your shirt or yeah but slowly at first i think sometimes guys go too quickly to that well you know yeah we've i mean you know you and i've talked off air about this you know a lot of times when you meet a new especially a single guy right I think they're so enamored with you.

Oh, I don't know about that. Well, a good portion. So they were like, just quick, quick, get dressed. I want to fuck you before it runs out. Well, they're afraid that, like, all of a sudden, like, nah, you know. It's like, no, the clock is going to strike midnight, and all of a sudden, poof, I become a pumpkin. How many guys have you played with that they didn't even do oral? Oh, a lot. Yeah, they don't even try. They don't ask. No, no. You know? A lot. A lot. And it's like. Hey, did you come? It's like, no. I mean, it's not that it's not fun, but I didn't. Yeah.

It could have been so much more. I mean, if you look at it in like a bar chart kind of thing. Right. It's like – but I didn't it could have been so much more I mean if you look at it in like a bar chart kind of thing or an engine you didn't get the engine revving enough the engine didn't warm up enough that it's going to come that's foreplay that's the kissing that's the touching that's oral all those things caressing, padding, whatever those terms are the jackhammer, whatever it takes whatever it takes I'll see lot of time. It's like a real one. I came and they're out the door.

It's like, wait a minute. And then they don't get invited back. I think sometimes, like you said, they're so excited. For them, their motor's already charged. So kissing is like. Well, a man doesn't need the motor running at the same RPMs that a woman does. Right, exactly. Quite simple. Half these guys, the wind changes direction. They're bing. It's already go.

I can do it i can do it again it's like oh my goodness or some of them it's like you're real poing you know you're not a fake website poing you're gonna yeah you're an actual person oh my god one of these ai girls now so is ai gonna fucking kill porn industry because everybody would be fake? I don't know. Have the AI sign and release. But anyway, but okay, so, you know, the kissing part is, and I think the kissing goes on in a sense of like why you're, you know, why you're fucking and stuff like that. You know, if they're a good kisser, that just adds to it. Yeah, I agree. You know? I agree.

Even to the fact, let's say it's doggy style, you know, to kiss a girl on the back of the neck and stuff like that. Oh, you know what? A lot of them don't do that. You're right. That's why I'm me and they're not. Yeah, they're not. You know? That's true. I was just kind of reminiscing back to like the last couple of videos I did. I'm like, yeah, I did, doggy. There was, believe me, there was no kissing in the back of the neck, which would have been really nice. Not everyone is capable. You had a few guys that have bellies that they might not be able to bend over that way. Right, right.

And I'm kind of short, so getting that into that position might be kind of difficult. You got to be a little more flexible. Yeah. But no. I'll work on it. it. Okay, whichever way you want to look at it. But yeah, no, kissing I think is I mean, even to the fact that I talked about the one girl I had dated for a while when her and I were down in Center City and it was a rainy day and we were bar hopping and there was alcohol involved. Seems to be a very common theme in your stories, and mine too.

I mean, any story that doesn't involve alcohol is usually me talking about my kids, and they're not the erotic or fun ones. No. They're proud ones. Right. But they're not. Okay. And I told you this story before, but, you know, like, so we would go, like, try to run between bars or whatever, and sometimes, like, it would be a throwaway, so we'd jump into a doorway. Like, the stereotypical fucking, you know, you see on TV or movies or whatever fucking, and, you know, you go in there just to kind of... Get out of the rain and... Just for a minute or two. We'd sit there and make out. Yeah.

And it was not a you know person of public display um but i don't give a fuck you know right if to me you know it's like i'm not you know not doing anything nasty kissing is not you know no i don't think so but yeah that was like really erotic to me and you know and just you know even used to do it you know before the the invention of center consoles, that was, like, really erotic to me, you know, and just, you know, even used to do it, you know, before the invention of center consoles, you know, like, stop and light and make out for a little bit. Right. You know, it was always erotic.

Oh, you mean, like, you had, like, a bench seat, like, in your vehicle? Oh, my God, that's going back a ways. Yeah. You had room. Yeah, you could, you know, and, yeah. You could actually sit close to your partner, you know, so one could drive and then you could sit up close. If you have the center console, you're still on the other side of the car. No matter what, you're on the other side.

We've even done it where kiss, like there's been times where I, you know, I'll lay next to you and kiss and I'll put a vibrator on your pussy or my finger or whatever and just kiss while you do that And then we'll see you next time. There's been times where I'll lay next to you and kiss and I'll put a vibrator on your pussy or my finger or whatever and just kiss while you do that. It gets you pretty fired up. Oh, yeah, it does. Those hips are thrusting airward. Yeah, yeah. I think we might need to revisit something like that tonight. I'm just saying. Okay, I have that on. It's recorded.

I have it right here. Really? Okay. I'm going to play that back over and over again. So if I say, yeah tired oh no you're not but that was six weeks ago I have it recorded you said tonight you didn't specify which night you were playing that every night and twice, I mean, okay, so here's a question for you. Okay. Someone who thinks that their relationship, you know, they're not getting enough and everything else. Do you think that maybe the kissing element could help rekindle that? Because the guy might be a person, and I'm just talking as usual, that, you know, he just wants to fuck.

We talked about that a second ago. But if he adds that level of romance that a woman might be looking for, and I'm not saying it can't go the other way. Right, right. Where the guy might want to kiss and the wife's like, come on, you know, just fuck me. Get it over with, you know. We know somebody like that. um, we know a friend of ours that his wife isn't big into sex. And, you know, he comes home and wants sex once a month. And she's like, okay. She drops her pants, bends over to the kitchen table, get it out of the way. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I mean.

Oh, wait, that's not right oh yeah i don't remember you bending me over any kitchen table or i don't remember you offering me up sex um touche you son of a bitch oh i i tried to zing you up where i just can't do it i've been You've been doing this too long. I suppose you have, so. of a bitch. Oh, I tried to zing you up. Boy, I just can't do it. I've been doing this too long. I suppose you have. But, you know, I think kissing is one of the greatest ways of bringing it back. I agree. Putting that spark back in there. I mean, I don't think people. Okay, let's also back up, too.

He says, I'm guilty of this.

Yeah, I smoke cigars occasionally brush your teeth gargle gargle yeah if you smoke cigarettes and you want to kiss well if you smoke and i'm going to go from a man's end okay you smoke but your wife doesn't right she doesn't want to kiss a fucking ashtray no she might tell you it's okay she's just going through the motion right you know what you know dude clean that shit up you know no more than you want her fucking wearing those plastic pants jog around you know go jog five miles come home go eat my pussy right exactly maybe you do i don't know i don't know yeah i'm not judging i'm not judging you could be one of those people that like seeing a big old stanky, hairy, nasty stuff.

I think your opinion on it is pretty evident. Was that out loud? Just a little bit. I'll have to check the recording. I don't remember saying that. I don't remember saying that. I didn't say it'd be big, sweaty, hairy. Nasty. Yeah, okay. I mean, if that's what you're into, God bless you. Sick fucks. I'm kind of a sticker that way. I like to brush my teeth and clean up before we go and mess around. Get the weed eater out, take it down a couple inches. Oh, yeah. We cut the dreadlocks out. Oh, yeah. Well, the hedge trimmers take out the new growth. Yeah, but it's such a big blade.

Sometimes I nick your thigh or something. Oh, well, you know. I don't mind my thigh. Not your thigh is right. But no, I think kissing is so much more passionate. Oh, it absolutely is. I mean, there's so much more that goes into kissing than it does when I do oral. Although sometimes if I'm really into doing oral, I spend more time caressing the balls and licking them, going up and down the shaft. But it's still not as... Yeah, with me you don't. Wait, I did last night. Shut up. Oh, okay. Oh, shut up. I don't remember that. Oh. You might have to refresh my memory.

Yeah, okay, I'll refresh your memory. But still... I'll refresh my penis. I'll refresh your penis. God damn it. I'm going to refresh it right now. That's not how you make it sound sexual. I wasn't trying to. Oh, okay. No, but I still think, you know, the kissing is just so much more erotic than giving a blowjob or something like that.

Even more, again, my opinion, I think it's more passionate than fucking oh it absolutely you combine the fucking with kissing it makes it oh really erotic because you can you can fuck and not touch any other part of the body but having a penis go into your pussy well my dicks are short i gotta get closer so i touch a lot of things but i mean in general with some of the normal size penis. They call me short stroke. Stubby. Ouch. Oh. Wow. I have not hit the Donna button once. I know. I meant it in the most loving way.

Yeah, I mean, you could fuck somebody and literally not touch any other part of their body sure you know i mean if you're doing doggy you might have your hands on their hips but you could have them stretched out on the wall and literally not touch any other part of their body on the edge of the bed i mean you can just hold her ankles right and just you know have her legs in the air and just be fucking you're not yeah yeah and you know i mean if that's what you want that's fine but that's why kissing is so much more erotic and passionate because there's so much more going on so many more things touching and I can't imagine kissing and not having my hands explore everything from rubbing the back her back to grabbing her ass not grabbing, I don't want to even say grabbing I would say caressing, rubbing embracing again I know you like when I kiss you if I run my hand up into the bottom of your neck with your hair and then lightly grab your hair the only thing, we can't show any kind of kissing or hugging with the dogs because they get very upset.

Yeah. It's like we have to wait and it's like, look around, okay. Our big dog is protecting her. I don't know what he's doing. And our little female dog gets jealous of me. It's like, oh, you know, because. They both start barking and they try to get in between us. The female dog doesn't want me touching you and the big dog doesn't want me touching you. So nobody wants me touching you? Well, the little dog thinks I'm her husband or something, I guess. I think she wants to be in the middle. She wants all the attention. Okay, let's get off the pet thing.

Yeah, but I mean, I wonder if anybody else has ever noticed that. Like when they go to hug their significant other. Is it really common? That's why, well, we could not like some people with their pets in the room motherfucker oh god no oh no no fuck no oh no no no so i guess again yeah we don't want the pets anywhere near us having sex for you okay i don't want to be considered in this equation okay okay Um, who would you say is the best kisser you've kissed? I don't use the real name. Oh, no. The black gentleman that I did the massage video out here, he's a good kisser.

He's just a really, he's just a good lover, like all the way around. He's very considerate. He's considerate reach back out to you oh he did he did so i'll have to yeah back out to you i will okay definitely yeah i thought it was either gonna be him or the uh young guy that a lot of people like to watch yeah yeah it's between the two of them okay i i think the the black gentleman is just a little more passionate he takes takes his time a little bit more. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. He's a lot of fun. He's a lot of fun. He listens. He's very respectful. That's why he's polyamorous, too.

That's why. That's probably why, because women will fall all over that. It's like, wow, you know, he's very passionate. And he's, you know, he expresses that through his kissing and caresses and everything like that, which adds to the whole, I'm going to use air quotes, but it's like the boyfriend experience type of a thing. Like the women that I've been playing with, like, you know, I'll do my thing and they're like, oh my God, you got to stop, I'm wiped out.

And I'll go up i'll go up and lay next to them right and i'll start kissing them oh that just starts it all over again you're evil you're look at that smile my god that is an evil nasty that's that's a devilish smile there there's little horns popping up i swear to god there's little horns popping up on your head no they i'm kissing them right and then they're like i'm touching them them all over and eventually it works back down there and it's like sounds like the motor show running and they're like okay just a couple just a couple more orgasms there are just a couple kissing is think so.

You know, I mean, there is no sex toy for kissing. No. There's no Hitachi for kissing. No. I mean, kissing is its own sex toy. I agree. I honestly think you could be mediocre at fucking, but if you're a good kisser, it can pick up. It can make it. Yeah, it can pick up where you left off. Here's a question, and I notice as I get older, my lips. Green is the answer. Perfect. Okay, never mind. I won't answer the question. Does lip size have anything to do with kissing? Like, my lips used to be fuller because I was younger. Now I'm getting older, and they're a little bit thinner than they were.

I mean, I don't know. You don't think so? No, it's what you do with it. Oh, okay. It's like a penis. What you do with it? I'm just asking a question. I mean, I don't know. I'm willing to go get a bunch of different women and try. Kiss them all? But if they have a nice set of pouty lips or something like that, visually it looks great. Oh, it looks awesome. It doesn't mean they know how to kiss. That's true. Good point. You know? Good point. You still have to know how to kiss. I think kissing has to be just like oral sex. It has to be something you enjoy.

If it's something you don't enjoy, you're not going to be good at it. Hmm. I think when I was younger, I was very, very young. Really? You were younger when you were young? Wow, let me think about that one. When I was younger, I was young. I meant to say, shut up! Is that a Confucius statement? It probably is. Confucius said, when I was younger, the kisses I liked back then are different than the kisses I like now. Well, yeah. I like a juicy kiss now. Not slobbery, but like a little bit more. Oh, no. Not that kind of kiss. Ruin that mic. Shuffering shuffetage. There goes a $200 mic. Not that.

Not slobbery. Like a little bit of moist. Shuffering shuffet, it's not cheesy. Stop saying succotash. Come kiss me, please. Okay, forget it. You sound like if you suck a dick. So I swallow or spit. I've never once done that. Spit?

I'm sure I have, but usually swallow or splatter all over me but when i was younger like a a juicy kiss was kind of a turn off for me i was more into like there's dry kisses now i'm looking back on like what the fuck was wrong define dry and juicy kisses for me i'm kind of okay i don't know okay like when it's like you both haven't had to drink in hours, and you're like, oh, let's kiss. There's not a lot of saliva. There's not a lot of. You both have chapped lips. Chapped, chapped lips. The skin falls to the ground. It's like, baby, I'll chapstick you so bad. No, did you ever kiss somebody?

I'm going to go get you a bottle of water, and we're going to hydrate, motherfucker. Maybe that's what it was. I don't know. A juicy one? Is that like a St. Bernard where you're drooling all over the place? No, what do you want through that? No, that's disgusting too. But there's like a little more saliva. A little bit more saliva. Not a lot. Not like gross amounts, but just a little bit. It's possible. Didn't you ever kiss somebody and they're like dry, there's nothing going on there? Oh, I've kissed people where there's nothing going on, yeah. I've kissed a few of those women, yeah.

They almost felt, you know, these women, they almost think like you're intruding into their mouth, you know. Like I've had women where they almost like fight me off with their tongue. Oh, my goodness. It's like, get out, get out. It's like, just don't fucking kiss me then. Then maybe we should just end this right now. And those women don't suck dick. Oh. So you think there's a correlation between kissing and sucking dick? Oh, oral. Oral, sure. I think if a guy can't kiss you, he's not going to be great. I could be wrong. He could, you know, he might not be good at giving oral.

If you don't have tongue skills, you're not going to have tongue skills. True. Am I a decent kisser? Yes. Okay. I agree. Yes. And you have awesome oral skills. We've covered that in one or two episodes. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I'm trying not to beat that drum. Yeah. Telling it to me last night when I fucking was screaming. I don't have to. You just said it. I just said it. I'll vouch. But anyway. I don't care. It was good. Yeah. Thank you. I didn't hate your anything. Dick sucking skills. Yeah. Whatever.

Um, but, um whatever and here's $20 for saying that yeah but I still owe you $50 I drive a hard bargain but no I think I can't prove my theory but I would venture to say if someone doesn't have kissing skills they're not going to have great oral skills why because you would use the same like when i kiss you totally get the fact how strong my tongue is oh yeah you know when we're done you're done kissing me it's like wow i feel like i went to the dentist yeah i do clean those teeth for you yeah thank you thanks i'm gonna put some floss i'm gonna wrap some floss around your tongue take those cavities I package back teeth for you.

Thank you. I'm going to put some floss. I'm going to wrap some floss around your tongue. Take those cavities and pack it back down for you. They're not right. Find that piece of bubble gum stuck on the back that was from when you were in 8th grade. Stop. I was like, what was that? That bubble gum, damn it. But no, I think it correlates. I think so too. And again, not only do you find out, again, it's a theory. I'm going to go get a bunch of women and do research. I think we need to get a government grant and do studies on this, extensive studies, because this could save lives. Maybe marriages.

Sure. That was the one thing that Mickey had said to me after that one time the next day she says she didn't talk about the oral skills on sex wise but she goes you're a god damn good kisser and so thank you and it kissing. I think it's very passionate. You find, you get a better sense for the person. It's almost that kind of you mind meld together. Mm-hmm. You know, I think you both, it builds both you up, the excitement level. Mm-hmm. I agree. You know, you get more excited while your clothes are potentially still on. No, I agree. I agree. It gets you that motor running. Mm-hmm.

Eyes open or eyes closed when you kiss? God, I flip-flop. I do like closing my eyes because I can just, like, kind of, like, melt into the other person and just let all the other sensations kind of engulf me. Mmulf me. That kind of thing. Just get lost in those sensations. I don't care where I am. I don't care what's going on in my environment. I just want to be focused on that sensation and that person. Yeah, eyes closed. Yeah, I'm the same way. Eyes closed.

My eyes are always closed, always closed yeah i never i guess since both of our eyes are closed you don't really know what the other person's doing but that's why i had that yeah unless they're a horrible kisser then you're opening your eyes you're looking oops then you're looking over the shoulder at your watch you know when the fuck can i stop kissing i've only done that once with the clock on the wall there's a little timer on the side of the bed. It's been 10 seconds already. God, let's get to the fucker. Why don't you stop? Jesus Christ. Let's get this over with. So, look at Tom.

I got to get out of here. Oh, my God. You know what? It's time for a mint. What? Yeah. You should have a mint. I don't want a mint. No, no. You should have a mint. That's the other disgusting thing. It's like you're kissing someone who has bad breath. It's like, okay, what do you do? You know, and it's like, they could be a good kisser, but the breath is just not quite there. Did you ever kiss someone with a fresh mint in the mouth? It's hot. It's hot. Oh, my God. It's even hotter with four. Four. You know, maybe like three. It burns. It's fine. How about three mints and a hauls?

And a ha a halls we want her mouth is on fire yeah it's like how do you gracefully like say you got do you smoke cigarettes no maybe you should start that would be better than what it tastes like now so do you like to do you like to eat ass no why because your mouth tastes like shit I'm lucky like most of the guys that come here I can't think of any that are like you know that didn't have good hygiene whatever that is but do you make out with your dog why you got dog got dog breath with the butt. That's so gross.

I just saw that because our dog this morning, he wants to come over in the morning when I'm sitting here having my coffee and tries to come over and give me a kiss. And it's like, dude, Jesus Christ. I'm taking him upstairs. I'm brushing his teeth. First thing in the morning, man, that breath is just, I don't know which end he's blowing at me. He's either farting on you or breathing on you. I can't tell if it's a tail or ears. It's like either way, it stinks like hell, man. Jesus Christ. That's where a small dog's better. I can't really get – but the big one, man, he's right there in my face.

He's right there in your face. There's no getting around that. Anyways, get away from the pets again. Yeah, really. Why do you bring that up? They're known for bad breath, yeah. Yeah, the whole bad breath thing. It's like, see, yowza. That could ruin a good kiss. Okay, so now the next $20 question is. Oh. So I know you don't care. Okay. Like my ex-wife did. All right.

Go down down on you you've come one or two dozen times i come up you'll kiss me with pussy breasts oh god i don't care oh no my ex well well that's funny because she wanted to kiss you with cum in her mouth so but yeah and i yeah i don't go for that but that's that's me. There's plenty of guys that are fine with that and that's great. There's guys who snowball, there's guys, you know, whatever. It's not my gig. Pussy juice, I don't care. Somebody else's pussy juice, I don't care. Yeah, pussy juice isn't bad. No. It's not bad either, hon. It depends what they have to eat.

Do you see where that comes from? That comes from a penis. Really? Yeah, no. Do tell. You must have experience. That's all I can tell you. Yeah, I've experienced. I've seen a lot of people fuck you and, you know, come in your mouth and on your face and your tits and your ass. Is that a lot? On your feet, on your belly and your back and your hair and your eyes and your nostril and your left ear. I'm Googling. Did I miss anything? I have no idea. I think you got all of it. No, you got all of it. I look like a freaking glazed donut. Pretty much. Sometimes.

But I'm not, that's what I'm saying, is I can't do that. If a woman sucks my dick and I pop in her mouth and she comes over to kiss me, it's like, let me have you a drink. Look at the time. Look at the time. We've got to get going here. Have a beer. It was great. Thank you. Just ruin that fucking thing. Just great blow job. And you come up and go, oh, fuck you. You fuck would definitely swallow for no I still don't want to remnants no yeah it doesn't that doesn't skee me one way or the other oh it does me can't you tell I'm in the borderline dry heaving right now I love that's disgusting.

That's disgusting. Well, hell, the other week, you just got done playing with a guy and everything else. And then afterwards, you came over to me, came over to give me a hug. And he said, give me a kiss. I'm like, fuck, no. I don't think you came in my mouth. I said, you just sucked his dick. I'm not sucking his dick proxy. Yeah, he didn't even come in my mouth. I just sucked his dick. I don't care.

I don't want to taste to my mouth You just sucked his dick I'm not sucking his dick proxy Yeah, he didn't even come in my mouth I don't care I don't want to taste his dick on your tongue You can go gargle, you can brush your teeth Go have some water, something I'm not sucking dick proxy I didn't even think of it I have a very severe penis allergy I know, I don't want you to break out. I'll break out in a shooting. Stop. I don't go for that. Okay. No, I'm not. That's really noted. Yeah. Those who do, it's great. That's not my thing. At least more penis for you, my dear. I'm good with that.

I know you are. I don't care if there's penis stuff. I don't care if there's pussy juice on your face the gentleman was here for the live show right young guy 27 very new to his lifestyle um and uh when we were texting back and forth again i've done this enough times i could tell his cryptic like what he was saying wasn't like you know he didn't say what is two plus two Right. He said, if I had a couple groups of, you know, he didn't say what is two plus two. Right.

He said, if I had a couple of groups of, you know, two groups of apples that were containing two, you know, what would you call that? But whatever he was. He was trying to figure out if I'd do gang bangs. He was like, you know, it would just be me and your wife, right?

I wife right i'm like yes i don't touch you i don't want to touch you i don't like penis he's like oh good he says you know nowadays you don't know i said yeah there are plenty of couples out there the husband's like you get started the wife and then i'm gonna jump in where are you jumping in exactly which side of your wife are you jumping in yep exactly oh no i'm gonna jump behind no you're not well he should just ask right away like he should have stated look i'm straight but there's people who don't have bi on their profiles and yeah no yeah no we've i've talked to couples that have messaged us right and it's you know straight and you know she's bi but he's straight and all of a sudden it's like oh the husband is you know is is bi you know do you play with you know men i was like no i do not it says on your profile straight so that's but people don't go updated it's like we're talking about in particular you know you put your age in you don't put your birthday so if you don't update your birth, how old you are every year, you could, you know, if you joined when you were 25, you're now 52, you're still 25, you know.

I wonder how old I am on that side. No, I update it. Okay, good. You're still 78. Thank you. I can catch up. You're just going to keep it at that age, you know, just hope I keep, you don't have to change it. I keep saying, yeah, she's hardcore. Hardcore with a walker. Yeah, I am. It's like a miniature powwow bar for her. Former gymnast. Former. But, so, yeah, it was interesting. It's like, no, dude, don't worry. Oh, okay. So, but he was a good kisser? Yes. Good. Yes. The little lip biting was kind of interesting. Yeah? Yeah, I like that from time to time. Yeah.

Yeah, again, I think, you know, kissing is also where you can kind of find out some of the limitations with the person. It's like the first time you're meeting them. Yeah.

You know, like pull do they like that or not right exactly so you know if he goes further should I be pulling more hair or not you know if you grab her ass pretty firmly is she like you know enjoying it or not I mean that could lead to you know so like when you're on top you know does she want you to grab her ass and like fucking slam her down on top of you or not Well, you know what so like when you're on top, you know, does she want you to grab her ass and like fucking slam her down on top of you or not?

Well, you know what, during the kissing stage, I don't think I would like any of that more aggressive stuff. That's you, and that's what I'm saying is you kind of get that. Yeah, but as the sex goes on and as I can become more excited, then I like it. See, there's a buildup. Oh, I don't work for 30 seconds. Well, I am a complicated person, after all. I mean, not that I waste 30 seconds. Oh, no, not you. 20, too. Stop. But, yeah, no, the kissing, I don't know how you... Are there any couples we played with where kissing was off limits? I don't remember if we ever did.

I think we would have been like, you know what? It's kind of. I think there's couples we played with that the kissing didn't happen. So whether that was off limits or not, you know, I don't know. That's not generally like one of the rules people. Sometimes it is.

Sure sure but i'm saying it's not one of the rules they come out with they just try to like avoid it you know just you know they have like their hand like over their mouth so you can't or they instead of kissing you they'll like you know go down maybe start kissing your chest or something or so they kind of deflect it yeah i don't know wouldn't it be Easier just to say, hey, we don't do kissing? It could. That would make things so much more clear and easy to comprehend. I'm sorry, our rules are we don't do kissing. I don't know how many people really put that much thought into kissing.

I don't... We do. We do. But, you know, I'm just saying, you know, there's people who, you know, they just... Because, I mean, we've run across a bunch of people who don't really kiss. Hmm. You know, like that one couple we played with. Which one couple? There's a lot of them. Yeah, I'm talking. The couple. You know, we are pretty slutty, dear. At the party. Okay. Okay. The one with the butt light. I kissed her quite a bit. I didn't. Your face was in between her legs. How could you? Yeah, before I got to that part, no, there wasn't kissing. Huh.

It's probably okay for a woman, but not for a man to kiss her. Maybe. I kissed her husband a whole lot. I'm just saying. I'm right there on top of him. Sure. Sure. He couldn't go anywhere. I had him pinned down. I had my way with him. I did hear him like a Jenny Craig. Craig. Wait. Watch this. Yeah, I heard that too. Here's some coupons, please. How about you go jog for a while? Oh, my God. Crushing force, gravity. He thought they were reenacting the... Only one woman on me at a time, please. Oh, my God. Oh, God, that's terrible. That is just a joke that she always says to me. Yes, I do.

If I roll over in bed and just put my arm across her or something like that. There's something to lay across me. Oh, my God, the crushing weight. Jenny, Craig. I just want to say something, honey. Jenny, Craig, weight watchers. Now I guess there are new ones now. Go low. NJ, diet. You'll never wake up. Just trying to be helpful. Just trying to be helpful. I bought you a pair of jogging sneakers. Hint.

Hey, how about did you get a gym membership yet yeah that's love for you that's true love you can't tell me it's not it kicked me out of planet fitness I'm over the weight limit for the treadmills it's pretty bad on the treadmill it doesn't move burn out the motors smoke comes out oh shit it doesn't move. Burn out the motors. His smoke comes out. Oh, shit. Are you choking on it, dear? Saliva went down the wrong time. Oh, yeah, of course. Likely story. I know. It's probably the poison you put in my drink. Probably. All right. So you establish that kissing is erotic.

Kissing is definitely erotic. And, you know, anywhere. It doesn't even have to be on the lips. I do like. Well, of course, then it gets, you know. Well, no, no. So I'm going to bend over to him. Say, here, pucker up, bitch. Right on that rectum. Yeah, you just took all the eroticism right out the fucking window there. Hey, there are plenty of guys who like that shit. Oh, I have more guys that like, they just get right into eating my ass. And I don't hate it. I always make sure like when I'm playing, of course, I get very, very clean.

I do all that and, you know, but it's like, We've got a new power washer for it. Oh. That could be dangerous. I get the clumps out of the hair. Oh, that's but yeah they got the butt cheeks spread they got their face right in there it's like dude do you know how many videos i've seen where a girl be with a guy in the porn thing now right and there's so much you know and he's and i'm gonna say it because that's what it is. Everyone I've seen that generally has been black guys. They like the girl to fucking eat their ass. Oh, really? I don't know what that is. I've never eaten a guy's ass.

If you would have to have, like, no hair. I think hair back there is just kind of excessive hair. It's kind of like, mm. Well, the problem with hair. We said that before. It holds smell. Yeah. You know, whether it's pubic hair or ass hair or whatever. It's going to be just not pleasant. It's in an area that gets... Smelly. Yeah. A lot of heat and sweat and nastiness. Yeah. And piss and shit. Wow. Please, I want more detail. I'm so aroused now. We're not adults, but we're talking about adult subjects. It's icky. Yeah. Ew, pee, ew.

Yeah yeah how bad was that what you have to get down on a woman and it's like oh my god she says come on baby eat my pussy do I have to can I do something else can I paint your house take out your trash can I pay your car off oh I know it's off the subject how about I go buy you dinner I don I know. It's off the subject. It's like. How about I go buy you dinner? How about I buy you a gym membership? They have good showers and sun care. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really particular. I go to play with somebody that I clean up and shave and shave some more and scrub. Sandblast.

Sandblast enema or 10 call the fire company and not to fuck them no I need that hose have a date tonight I'll come back later and you guys can wash me up and then we'll fuck okay okay he louse me this will be a 10 alarmer i get it i don't know so but um yeah no the kissing part definitely is erotic i agree absolutely is so spend more time with your partner kissing and getting to really know them yeah and i actually think too if you like take those moments like during the day like on a Saturday or Sunday practice kissing so that they grab your significant other and hold them and kiss them what if you don't work from home on the weekend hang in the office grab the closest person I want to practice with somebody this is not sexual harassment I'm practicing to be with my wife this is not against you It has want to practice with somebody.

This is not sexual harassment. I'm practicing to be with my wife. This is not against you. It has nothing to do with you. Nothing to do with you. You just happen to be here. Just a proxy. You can practice for whoever it is you want to kiss. It's just practice. It's just practice. You know, I'm just going to stick my dick in your ass. I don't care if you're not into it. I'm practicing for my wife. My wife wants me to, you know, give her anal tonight. I need to practice. It's not sexual harassment. Don't make it wrong. Don't make it ugly. Just get, you know, don't misconstrue.

You really mean nothing to me. Not even really attracted to you that much. No matter how much my raging heart on looks like I'm attracted to you. No matter how fast I blow a load in your asshole. Oh my God. It's not about you. It really isn't. You're so wrong. You're so wrong. Oh my God. What? Nothing. I'm not saying this has happened to me five, six times. No, never. I don't care what those restraining orders say. Those lawsuits. Prison time. Whatever.

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