The Impact of Arrogance on Relationships

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot White Podcast. Of course, behind the scenes is the ever-wonderful Vince. Say hi, Vince. Hi, Vince. Smartass. Always a wiseass. Never a niceass. Never a niceass. Well, it used to be a niceass. What happened? It got older, and it disappeared. Mine's right behind you. I guess when I lost all that weight, it went with it. I don't know. Yeah, that's your excuse? I guess. I had a nice ass when I was fat, but now that I'm healthy and skinny, I have no ass. Fat's going to come from somewhere. Didn't come from between my ears. We know that. No, probably not. Did you get a factoid ready? No. Oh, let me see. It's under my beer. Sorry. Oh, it's okay. You might have a drinking problem. Maybe. Maybe, baby. Maybe. Oh, this is in the benefits of swinging. Okay. And one of them that we've always talked about. about before. Maybe we even... Fresh meat. That's true. We did talk about relationship satisfaction, didn't we? We did talk about that factoid last time. I don't know. But we have no... I don't remember what we ate for dinner a half hour ago. Oh, come on. Those are some kick-ass pizza... Cheese steaks. Cheese steak things on fresh, delicious, crispy... And who made those? Of course, you did. I don't... Okay, just check it out. Good Lord. You enjoy that. But it was, yes, so don't tell me you don't remember. But getting back to swinging, the relationship satisfaction. Okay. Like how, well, do you think it has? Well, the last show with J and L, they talked about it too. We talked with them about that, how it improves. For the most part, I think you'll find most people in the lifestyle will attest that it has enlightened their relationship. I think it adds a spark. It's also something fun that the two of you can do together and broaden your horizons. Or even, I mean, in our relationship, I mean, there's things that you like to do that I'm not really into as much and vice versa. So I get a chance to experience the BDSM side or whatever I want to do with restraining and whatever. And you get to experience, yeah, what you like to experience. So that makes it kind of nice and then kind of like come back. So yeah, I think swinging has really enhanced our relationship. Definitely, definitely. Well, I mean, even after we've, and again, we've talked about this, so I hate to beat that dead horse, but you know, after we've had play time with other people, you know, we come back and we're horned up for each other. Yeah, yeah. And it does, adds that little spark, adds that little bit of excitement, maybe just something Maybe something your partner isn't really enthralled with. So you can kind of do it on your own a little bit and, you know, take a little walk on the wild side, as it were, and then come back and meet in the middle. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, everything in moderation. You know, you can't be, I think it would definitely take a bad turn of all of a sudden one of us decided that's all they wanted to do and everything else was neglected. So you can't do that. We've known people like that. We absolutely have. So that's a little cautionary tale there that, you know, we have known people that, I mean, their goal was first and foremost was to get people lined up to play with. I mean, work, the relationship that they're in, everything else was secondary. And then that's a problem. Yeah, we've talked about that one individual, you know, he tried to set up three play dates for every day because he knew he wouldn't get three. Right. But he tried to, you know, so. Oh, my God. See, now that's. Yeah, well, you know, if that consumes your life, that's like being an alcoholic or a drug user or something. I agree, yeah. Yeah, when it starts to impact your relationship with your significant other in a negative way, then it's time to. Maybe his significant other's just like, well, if he's doing that, he's leaving me alone. Again, then what kind of relationships you really have? Well, I didn't say that was a good one. No, you did not say that. So what is today's topic? Okay. Today's topic. I'm not sure if I'm going to say this right, but inexperienced playmates, do you embrace them and teach them or you just leave them alone? Never see them again. Never see them again. Like we talked about it. You just had that one individual that obviously Really? Yeah, inexperienced. Especially with the way he performed. He's not going to get a lot of experience. No. And it's not like he wasn't, like, a good-looking guy. He's built nice. He had a nice cock, all that. But, I mean, I went back and I watched the video again. It was boring. It was painfully boring. It wasn't just boring. I mean, his, he never, like, really reached out to fondle me or anything like that. It was like, you know, some of the strip bars, you go back and get a private dance. I've been in bars where they had like poles on either side of the seat. And you have to keep your hands on the poles. You could not touch the girl. You had to keep your hands. I mean, the bouncer was there watching. You had to keep your hands on the pole the whole time the girl was near you. And that's what he did. He didn't take his hands off the seat. No, his hands were like down by his side the whole time. Yeah, I think they were down by his side. He didn't even thrust. No, he was just like... He just sat there and let you do it. We talked about he... Yeah, you stood up and put your pussy towards his face. He's like, no, I don't do that. I don't do that. It's like, well, good God, what do you do, buddy? So yeah, I mean, usually I'm pretty good about teaching people and embracing that. But it was just like, I just didn't think he was interested. It's like, hey, when can we shoot again? It's like, no one wants to see the first one. Yeah, I don't know. It just wasn't fun. Do you think he is a candidate you could teach? I, maybe. I don't know. I didn't see the, oh, you're shaking your head. No, I don't think so. He has no, okay, if, let's pretend he tried to eat your pussy, but didn't do a good job. You could instruct there. Right, I can instruct there, but if he's like, no, I'm not. Don't do that. Sorry, I don't suck dick anymore. I just quit just now. And it's like, okay, do you think this kid, because he was of legal age though, do you think he watches porn? I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. I think porn helps instruct in some ways. Yeah. Not in a positive way. No, not in a positive way, necessarily. But yeah, you can see what other people are doing and be like, oh, so that's how I could do that. Or if she's on top of me, maybe I can grab her breast. Or if I'm doing her doggy, I could do this. I could grab her hips. There's other young guys you've played with. And they're like, oh, I always wanted to do this. Oh, I always wanted to do that. I was just thinking that. This kid had nothing he wanted to do. No. Didn't even express it. No. There was no oohs, no ahs, no I'm coming. I had to put a mirror under his nose to make sure he was alive. Yeah. It was. I mean. Yeah. So. There wasn't a lot of enthusiasm there. Yeah. I mean, there's guys who go through the motions and there's girls who go through the motions, but they're not good at them, but at least they're trying. Yeah. This young guy didn't even try. Another young guy. Notice I said another younger guy. He came over at that one couple and all they wanted to do was smoke pot. And when I was fucking him, he was just as very... He wasn't like outwardly arrogant. It was just his... Oh, he was very arrogant. Oh, I didn't think he was very arrogant. I just thought he was arrogant but not, you know... Very conceited. He really thought his shit didn't stink. Yeah, because he just... I got a big cock. I'm a good looking guy. I don't need to do anything to you. I'm here for your pleasure and I don't have to do it. Yeah, that's why I felt like he had his hands like out along the love seat. And you know what pissed me off? That's my line, not his. Okay. Okay. I see how it is. But yeah, he just had like his hand, his arms like spread out on the top of the love seat. And it's like, do me. I'm not going to touch you. I'm here for your benefit. Me just being here is, you know, all you need. Yeah, like I couldn't get anything, you know, out of him. No kind of reaction, nothing. So that makes me not want to try harder. I basically like, nah, all right. You have fun there by yourself. I'm going over here. Yeah, keep smoking pot. Keep smoking pot. I don't care. Yeah, I mean, we've seen it with a lot of guys, especially, I'll say it, the guys with the big cocks. Yeah. that I got a big cock. That's what you want. I don't need to do anything else. That's all you want. That's it. I don't have to eat pussy. I mean, how many guys with bigger cocks have you played with? Cannot eat pussy. Well, cannot or don't. Yeah. They just want to put their dick in. Yeah. Yeah. You know? I agree. You know, at what point is someone going to wake them up and go? Use more to it than that. Yeah. You know what? Okay. That's one ingredient in making the meal. You know? Okay. You put salt in it. where you put the meat there. Okay, he's got the meat. It's just bland. If you don't add some other stuff to it, some garlic and some salt and pepper. Right, right. It's just going to be a bland meat. It's just meat. Bro, I've got a big meat. Well, if I just want a big meat, I could use a fucking dildo. You can use me whenever you want. Aww. You always call me dildo. Yeah, I know I did. No, I mean, I'm looking for some interaction. I'm looking for some chemistry. And this big piece of meat doesn't have any chemistry. You know, it's like... It's not even a chemistry thing. It's... Sure it is. I think it's more of positive interaction. Well, it's... Chemistry can be... It's remote with chemistry, I think. Yeah. But I'm talking about, like, sometimes people associate chemistry with some kind of emotional bond. You know, like, you and I have a chemistry. Do we know? It's toxic. Okay, it's toxic, but it's chemistry. Okay. Yeah, I can see what you mean. You're not looking to form a romantic relationship. You just want to make each other feel good. I just want to have someone who's fun. Yeah. Who's fun. And knows how to make you feel good. Yeah. And then in return, you make them feel good. And I just couldn't, I mean, both of those two guys, and both of them were in their 20s, both of them. There was just nothing. there. Nothing I got feet off of. And the fact that they had no energy made me feel like I had no energy. So the whole thing was very lackluster. And quite frankly, it was not the greatest experience of my life. I can tell you that. Yeah. You know, it was not a great experience. Yet we had that one other young guy who was like, oh, I've never done 69. Let's do that. Oh, I've never had my ass eaten. All right. Yep. There we go. I was waiting for that. I want to do this and I want to do that and this and this fun. So he comes to the game with some kind of excitement. Like these other guys had no excitement at all. It was like watching paint dry. In fact, I'd rather watch paint dry than have sex with them. It was like non-very blah. I videotape it and I have to sit through it. And all of a sudden you're looking for some level of excitement. And you're yawning. Yeah, when I'm sitting there like playing games on my phone, I can tell you, in my opinion, they're not a good level. Oh, my God. You were doing that? I didn't know. Oh, yeah. You're playing games on your phone. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's such a big insult. I'd rather play Tetris on my phone or rather of a game there is than watch you guys fuck. That's how bad it is. I'll paint a wall and watch it dry. Yeah, seriously. More exciting. More exciting. I mean, there's another guy who's a good friend, and I've talked to you about this. It's like, you know, he's reliable, but... There's not a lot of adventure there. No. It gets to be, you know, very routine. And for someone who sees you maybe once every three months. Right, right. Yeah, not me, but these people. You know, you think you'd want to, like, step up your game. It depends on the day you had. Oh, he certainly enjoys himself. I mean. Oh, sure. He certainly. Oh, yeah, and you too, you too, you enjoy him. I enjoy him. I'm saying from my end, from someone watching. Right, right. Again, I'm, what I'm getting out of this is I'm supposed to be like seeing you very aroused and like, like, you know, there's a certain look you get. Like there was that one guy that made you the rum and Cokes up there that you fucked. Oh, yes. And then like he was part of a couple other videos. Like there was a blow bang. Right. And like when you got done with him. Oh, I own it. this look. Like, I want to fuck you, buddy. I want to devour you. Yeah. And that's what I'm looking for. It's like, I want someone that, you know. Shakes my world a little bit. Rocks my world. Runs your heart and puts your way wet, you know. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, these guys, again, it's not going to happen every time. I get it. But it's like, you know, I think. They're not bringing their A game. Is that what you're trying to say? They're coming along with their B, C. G-game. Maybe they didn't even show up. I don't know. I think they threw away the instruction manual, never read it, which is a man thing to do. Good thing you said that and not me. But I don't know. It's just like there should be a little more effort. Effort would be good. A little more excitement. I mean, when I have relations with a girl, a woman, my goal is to get as many oohs, ahs, and screams out of her. And I don't mean just because I'm laying on top of her. Get off of me. Get the fuck off. Jenny Craig. Jenny Craig. Old show, you got to get back to that one. But, you know, just, but these guys just. It's just, it doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's kind of, it's kind of a letdown. Because I'm like, yeah, let's do this. And all of a sudden they're like, oh, I don't eat pussy. Oh, I don't do this. don't do that. I'm like, well, why are you here? What? Why am I? Why am I? Well, why am I doing this with you? I mean, if that's all you want to do is just fuck, come and go home, stay home, jerk off. Yeah. Buy yourself an inflatimate. Inflatimate. Yeah. I mean, I'm looking for a little bit more. I'm looking for, you know, some kind of passion. I'm looking for excitement. I'm looking for. Okay. So I'm going to put this out there. Okay. Here's a question. Since we're not, we've never really had good experience at club type events, at a club where there are regular people, is there like an undertone that people are like, oh, that guy over there, he's a horrible fuck. Don't go, don't fuck him. Is it one of those things like, is there an undertone of like a little list of like, oh, that guy? Blacklisted? You got blacklisted because you don't need Well, it's like you go there to get laid, and it's like being picked last to play kickball. You know? Do you label the guy? That's the last one you pick. You know, you're better off going home horny than fucking that guy. Or woman. It goes both ways. It goes both ways. Like I said, I was with that woman. Her and I got along phenomenally. Sexually, so disappointing. Oh, that's sad. But, you know, the relationship we had was good. Yeah. You know? We did a lot of cool stuff together, went to concerts. So that was very good. It's just the big room. Just hanging out. It was like you and I, in all honesty. She was just a taller version of you. Darker hair. And she didn't suck dick. Oh my goodness. We could hang out and talk for hours about everything and anything. And again, like you, we had a lot of work things in common, obviously, we could talk about. Not that I want to talk about work all the time, but You know, it's just, you know, so, you know, sex is important, and we had sex. It wasn't like she was a frigid, just wasn't exciting. You know, I mean, she had a great body, like you. But that really put a damper on your relationship. No. Okay. I know that she was like in. Because, no, it was really the first positive relationship I had. Right. Based purely on sex. Oh, okay. That's good. And, yeah. So, like, again, I guess it's hard to believe. I know if I'm going to say this, but I'll say it. Okay. That it was like, it was a more mature thing for me. It's just like, okay, sex is there. It wasn't phenomenal. It wasn't overly disappointing. Oh, that's, well, you have to qualify your sexual experiences as it wasn't overly disappointing. What does that mean? That's terrible. I would have bet if I had been with her for more than six months. Well, how long were you? Six months. Oh, just six months, okay. Yeah, and then... I know, she had another boyfriend. Well, she broke up. It's a long story I don't even want to share. But anyway, if it would have lasted, I think over time, she would have softened up and would have become more. The guy she wound up getting with and marrying, nice guy, got no problem with him. Right. I guarantee you, she hasn't changed one iota with him. Is that the same? That's the same guy that she tried to have him eat his pussy, you know, do a slobber all over her. And she's like, you know what, you don't need to do that. Yeah, she told me, you're the last person to ever eat my pussy properly. Oh, yeah, I do remember that. I was actually the first person to ever eat it properly. But, yeah. Oh, but no, she'd be shaved and doing all sorts of things. if I was still with her. See, you could have schooled her. That's what I'm saying. I would have trained her over time. Trained her. She was going through, you know, she had had tougher years before. Right. Apparently sexually. We never really ventured into that dialogue. Right. But it would have happened over time. And then I would have been able to instruct her and build more trust up. And she would have, oh yeah. She could have been a real little, you know. Yeah, she would have. I don't know. I don't know this person. No, she would have. She has trust issues. But anyway, another story. But I think, you know, are there people you think that maybe kind of get off on trying to train someone? I mean, the power exchange kind of thing or BDSM is kind of like training people the way you want, right? Oh, yeah. I had to go through the training before I actually I actually had my birthday party. But you're a willing participant. Of course not. We're talking about people who are like, no, I don't do that. So how do you get them into doing that? Oh, let me try that. Yeah, I guess you do have to build up trust. I mean, most of the younger guys that I have been with, except for those two, were very willing. They were like eager students. And especially when I had that karate instructor and I popped that younger guy's cherry when I was 17. And that was, That was kind of orchestrated. That was a training, learning, very safe environment for somebody who was a first-timer to really ask questions and not be afraid. And he was like, you know, put his dick in me. He's like, I'm not hurting you, am I? And I was like, no, you're fine. But thank you for thinking of me that way, but you're fine. So that was kind of cool that, you know, I hate to use the word training. I guess I was more like guiding, teaching, instructing, you know, those kind of things. Because there's a lot of questions. Yeah, there was a lot of learning that had to be done. And he never had sex before. So that was kind of interesting. And like I said before, I saw him at the bar, oh gosh, 10 years later. or more, he still remembered. Boy, he was still like, oh, my God, she popped my cherry. It was so awesome. So, yeah, I've told that story a thousand times. Yeah, it's a horrible story. It's a horrible thing when a beautiful woman pops her cherry. Yeah. My experience, which we've talked about, was a horrible experience. Was a horrible experience. Yeah, you never... Don't want to go over it. Yeah. Not fun to talk about. Not that it hurts me. It's just not interesting to talk about anymore. No, but you should think about that. When you are with people that are less experienced, then nobody wants to feel like they're... Oh, she humiliated me. Yeah, nobody wants to be humiliated. And that's wrong, and nobody should do that, especially in an intimate setting. I could have fixed her ass. I could have just gone to her husband and was like, you know, your wife really humiliated me when I fucked her and came real quick. It was my first time, and then I fucked her in the back of a car. And, you know... Oh, yeah, that would have fixed her wagon. She could have gone to jail. I was 17. She was 26. Yeah. Older women. Yeah. That's my history. The younger woman, I married her and obviously divorced her. Well, there's a pattern there, Vince. Yeah. You like women slightly older. Or those women like someone slightly younger. However you want to look at it. I mean, like that other married woman I worked with, you know, talked about, came out of my bathroom naked. Yeah. We're going to fuck. Yes, we are. No, no, please don't. Oh, I don't do that. No, beautiful woman naked wants to fuck and then wants me to fuck her in her ass. Oh, yeah. Let me look at my calendar. Oh, I have an opening. Okay. And she's got an opening too. She had three. Oh, I'm just going for the main one there. But yeah. Three. I think I'm for her. Yeah. Good for me. Good for you. Good for me. I was happy. The nice thing is I had enough alcohol in me. I could still stay hard, but I had longevity. Oh, that's like the perfect. You didn't have the whiskey dick, which is always terrible. No, I didn't have whiskey dick. And that was one of the things I used to like about drinking is I could drink to a point and I could still get very hard. Right. And I could fuck, but it was enough that I could stay hard. But, you know, I could fuck for an hour. Right. Without coming. There you go. Yeah. I would fuck to the point where it's like, God damn, I need to come. Yeah. You get to a point where it's just like, all right, this is going on long ago. Yeah. It's like, my knees hurt. Yeah. Even back then? Not so much back then. I mean, come on, I've played sports and all that shit. I've damaged my body. Oh, so the knees are always, yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean. And the funny part is, I was back when I was really heavy. Yeah. And these women were not. I don't know. I don't know what you... That's what it is. Yeah, I don't know what voodoo you were putting up. You haven't seen that yet. Oh, maybe someday I will. Probably not. I'm saving myself for marriage. Oh, that's what you're doing. Yeah, you're saving yourself. Okay, we'll go with that. Yeah, that sounds legitimate. Yeah, right there. Yep, and we have a correction to make. Our anniversary was November 1st. Still is November 1st. Oh, okay, we're not changing. But we did the math wrong. It's only 22 years. Oh. After a while, you're just like 22, 23, whatever. 22 years of marriage. Yeah, I thought that this was the 23rd year because you were saying last year we were 22. I can't subtract, divide, multiply, whatever. We did the math now. 2025 minus 2003 would be 22 years. I don't know what we're thinking. Now we've been together 24. Right. Romantically together. Right. True. Well, 24 hours. 24 hours? Oh, nice. When's that coming back around? I don't know. I have no idea. I don't want to miss it this time. But yeah, I mean, as far as like instructing, teaching younger people, I think... Well, not even younger. Oh, I mean, like inexperienced. Inexperienced or how about people that have been around for a while but just not good? They haven't... Maybe the inexperienced is that they've only been with that one person. And they've only ever played with each other. They've only, you know, and they're just getting into swinging. Oh, that. Oh, there you go. Yeah, they've gotten used to that same. Yeah, that routine. That routine. And, you know, like, I have a hard time having sex with a woman, you know, because you've ruined me. I'm used to a woman coming to bed in flannel pajamas. I've ruined you. Hair and curlers. Yeah, hair and curlers. That's me all the way. Some of these women don't sit there and go, You don't even have to let me know. I'm just going to go to sleep anyway. Then we just finish up whenever. Keep it out of my eyes. I don't want to wake up with my eyes glued shut. Thanks, Vince. You really make me sound. Love to hear from you. Info at hotwifepodcast.com. Let us know any experiences you've had with training someone or you just walk away from me. It's like, no, I don't got time for that. Do you find it intriguing to maybe groom? How about that? That might be a better word. Groom has a very negative connotation. Not always. Not, but it does. It could. Sure. And you read in the news to, you know, like. Okay, instruct. Instruct. Are you willing to instruct or guide? Guide is good. Someone into becoming better at sex, not only for themselves, but for whoever they're with. That's true. And that all comes with the communication and being open to taking. Yeah, constructive criticism if it comes to that. I mean, everybody's different. Not all guys like having their balls pulled like a lawnmower. Is it? Well, don't do that. Yeah, exactly. Not everybody's into that, so you have to talk. There are times you might feel charitable, and there's times like, no, I just need to have good sex. I want somebody who knows what they're doing. I don't want to have to go through and... All the time, or once in a while are you willing to instruct? Oh, I don't mind instructing. It depends if they're, you know, their excitement level. If they're really excited about doing something, that gets me kind of excited. Okay. You know, it's like the one young guy who never did the 69. He never did this. He was like, oh, man. I noticed that really did excite you. You kind of was like, okay, I'm going to give him his first. Oh, yeah. That was exciting. That was very cool. But even that older black gentleman who had never been with a white woman. Oh, yeah. That was interesting. Then he'd never been anal sex with you. With a white woman. Well, I expect he never did anal sex. Yeah, especially with a white woman. Was it anal sex period or anal sex with a white woman? I think it was just anal sex with a white woman. He'd never been with a white woman before, but anal sex was just, you know, topping on the cake there. So to speak. But yeah, I mean, that was kind of cool. I didn't have to train him or groom, not groom, I don't want to use the word groom, instruct him. He knew what he was doing. He'd never been with a white woman. Yeah, you've had a few firsts. Yeah, there's a lot of firsts. Yeah. Yeah. And then, There's the other gentleman who was, again, Asian, Indian-Asian, who never was with a white woman either. And I did anal with him, too. And we were supposed to get together with him. Or at least I was supposed to get together with him. Yeah, you were. He was in a mountain bike accident. Oh, that sucked. It's like, oh. Because he was fun. He was fun. He was energetic. He was there. He brought his A-game. I don't ask for much, but just come with some excitement and energy. You can also arrive with some energy. Oh, yeah, there you go. But we're just going to sit back and like, all right, you do all the work, and I'm just going to sit here and lay back. I'm going to take notes. You have fun. Yeah, it was kind of disappointing. It was really disappointing. And every now and then that's going to happen. But usually we can figure out who's going to be good and who's... You'd like to think that. How many times have guys really talked a great game and they were nothing? Yeah, every once in a while. Yeah, all of a sudden it's a short game. Yeah, every once in a while there's a couple that's kind of a game. Oh, it's like that guy at the bar. Oh, I'll leave your boyfriend, I'll be the best lover. Oh, yeah, I'll be the best sex you'll ever have. It was his exact quote. Two minutes into a couch dance, comes in his pants. Yep. I don't know about you, but I don't think that'd be the best sex I ever had. No, I can last three minutes. I thought, yay. Well, I beat him. Oh, you did. Okay, well, and I had my pants off. Oh, that's true. Coming with your pants on, that just, if you're that good at sex, dude, you should be getting sex and not cum in your pants. Not cum in your pants. Yeah, I must have done something to trip his trigger because he didn't look. Do you think? Geez, no. No, I come in my pants when the trash man picks up the trash at 6 a.m. See, I knew it. I knew there was something going on. Oh, listen to the thing, that auto-loader in the front. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm so hard just thinking about that. I get to haul this empty trash canes in, that dirty guy. Dirty trash. So trashy. All right. So the new... Magazine? Issue. Issue, okay. Issue, that's the word, of 50shadesofpleasure.com is available. It's still free. Check it out. This issue is based on the light and playful side of bondage. Ooh. Light and playful. Light and playful. Yes, sir. I do like the more playful side of bondage, BDSM, that kind of stuff. I'm not, you know. Hardcore. I'm not hardcore by any stretch. I just use it as just something, just a little spice to, you know, make things a little more exciting. That's all. Okay. I'd love to hear from you. We had that J&L on last show. Oh, they were great. And hope you enjoyed that show. Reach out to us, info.wifepodcast.letusknow.com. Let us know if you enjoyed that show. I mean, we're planning on having them back on. And they were great to talk to. And their experiences are always fun to hear other people's experiences. Yeah. If you're like them and would love to come on the show and share your experiences, experiences, good, bad, and indifferent. Love to hear from you. Reach out to us. We'll schedule a time to have you call in and we'll talk. And as you can see, we did not expose them to the world. No names were given, no locations were given. The names that we gave. But the routing number for their bank account is. Shut up. That's not even, don't even mess with that. If I had it to give out, do you think I would do it? No, of course not. I'd be draining it myself. No, those guys are great. We love them both. Thank them again. So, and if you want to see. Oh, what I'm doing and who I'm doing, it's hotwipe.alyn.com. That is links to all the different platforms I'm on, OnlyFans, ManyVids, Loyal Fans. Just a bunch. Just a bunch. The cool thing is, is like, I'm always, I have things uploading like every day now, so I'm Back in the groove, baby. So to speak. Yeah, so to speak. Within reasons. It might just be a little scrape in the sand. But yeah, I'm getting there. I'm getting there. So it's all fun. It's all good. And with that, we want to thank you all for listening and keep the downloads. We've now officially broken a third of a million downloads in the four years. So it's a great thank you. We're going to start our fifth year. that's nuts yeah i can't believe it's been five years really really five years treat it miss a year i mean you didn't calculate the anniversary so well we use it oh yeah okay it says four years i know we had one of our listeners jay said that's no it's already been three years well according to spreaker and that's the one we started with it's been we've been going for four years we're over so 300 and some almost 400 episodes Wow, holy crap. We talk more on air than we do in life. That's true. But again, we appreciate everyone who's listened, and I hope you keep listening, and I hope you can share it with your friends, and keep horny. Have a great night, everybody.