The Art of Being a Good Lover

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. Hello everybody, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. And of course, I'm here with my ever-wonderful husband, Vince. Okay, you can quit the line. You always say that. No, I am here. You're not lying about that. I know. You are here. Why would I lie? For so many reasons. I would never lie to your face. Yeah. Yeah, you have. Yeah, you have. No. That's a lie in itself. Yeah, I guess it is. I'm just full of lies, aren't I? Yes, you are. So. Okay. Again. Thank you, everyone, for listening. We're kind of glad to be back. We're having fun with it again. Seeing some of the listenership come back after our two-month hiatus that we actually thought was over. Oh, yeah. There's nothing. We didn't think there was anything left to talk about. Yeah, we thought we had exhausted everything, but apparently we haven't. We have not. Now, we might rehash some shit. Yes, I think we will. But we actually have a new topic for tonight. Mm-hmm. Is that the lovemaking one, nature or nurture? Yeah. Well, you had a recent as of yesterday. Yeah, as of yesterday. No, it was Friday. Was it Friday? Yeah, it was Friday after work. Oh, yeah, I think you're right, it was Friday. I'm sorry. Friday after work, another young gentleman. Yeah. Nice guy. Yeah, really nice guy. He didn't have an A-game. Well, I don't know if it was just because he was like maybe an A-game. No, he didn't have an A-game. We don't know because we don't know him. He didn't have an A-game. Let's just say for a young guy, he didn't have a lot of, he wasn't high energy. Let's back up. Okay, you're backing up? Okay. Beep. Okay, we're backing up. I'm not that fat. Okay, so during the process of Having sex? Mm-hmm. He grabbed your tits a little bit, but nothing else. Yeah, he wasn't a whole lot of the... During intercourse, didn't grab your hips, didn't try pulling your hair. Nope. I even told him, you know, like, you can come wherever you want. I like having my hair pulled. He might not be uncomfortable with that. You stood up and put your pussy in his face, and his answer or response was... I don't do that. And then what did he tell us later? You pee out of that. Yep, yep. I was like, wait a minute. I have waited my whole life. I always made jokes about people. Women. Especially women. Get away from me with that. You pee out of that. You pee out of it. Well, this young man actually said that. Well. You pee out of that. I don't want to put my mouth there. But he was okay with. Me sucking his dick. Which is literally. Maybe he doesn't pee out of his dick. I don't know. I don't know. But first of all, just the vagina. and the a woman's urinary meatus are two different holes. Well, I understand that. It's still the same area. He doesn't have a problem putting his dick in your ass. You shit out of that. I know. You pick and choose where you stick your junk, I guess. The topic of tonight is, is it nature or nurture to learn to be a good lover? Right. You know, it's like, I get it, yeah. Did someone like that grow up in a very stoic atmosphere, and were they told that things like that were wrong? I, yeah. I mean, it's possible. Don't just give me a no. We're going to talk about this. I don't know. Yeah, but you're right. I don't know what was going on there, but there's a lot of influences that he's just not into the oral aspect. Well, not just oral, but I mean, like, when you were riding him, he didn't put his hands on your hips. I had to tell him to. Yeah. Yeah, grab my hips. No, he was like, just had his hands down by his side. Like, it was robotic. Yeah, he's like, oh, baby, we are having sex. He's not the only person we've seen like this. So this is, we're not, we're not soloing out this one gentleman. No, there's been a couple that were like, oh, baby, oh, baby. I mean, the one girl I dated for a while was very much like that. She wouldn't touch me with her hand or mouth or anything. It was okay for me to go down on her. Matter of fact, she loved the shit out of that. Right. But he wasn't doing it to you. There was no return, no reciprocal appreciation. I'm sorry. You don't have to apologize for it. You don't want to make up for it either. Shut up. You tell me all the time, if your dick wasn't attached to you, I'd be all over you. It's attached to me. Anyway. You're a pain in my ass. But okay, let's move along here. It was really weird. It was very, very weird. He's like, I don't know, just not. He's like 22, 24. Yeah, he's pretty young. You know, you would think he'd be wanting to get his A game on. Good looking guy, good shape, decent sized cock. Yeah, yeah, no problem there. Am I saying in the gay way? But nothing wrong with the gay way, but that's not me. But yeah, there was no. No energy. No, there was no like, hey, let me get on top. Hey, let's do doggie. Hey, what's, it was just like. It was just, just do me. And when I come, that's it. Yeah. See ya. I was like, oh. And there has been others. Oh, yeah. You know. They come and run. Well, so do you think that's something that is inherent in you? Or is that something you learn? Or is that something, I mean, like. I'm thinking that it's a little bit of both. I mean, you have like a natural inkling toward things you find attractive. you would think are enjoyable, but you have to have somebody in the real world maybe teaching you about or showing you how it's done. So I think it's a little bit of those. There's been a lot of guys we've reached out to and they're like, oh man, I can't wait to eat your wife's pussy. It's like, okay, I get that. I get that. I'm good with that. But just sit there and you pee out of that. I throw up in my mouth, but you're kissing me. And he's been to swingers clubs. Now, again, at that age, I don't think he's had a ton of experience, and I don't think he's going to have a ton more. He has no A game, or a B game, or a C game. I don't know what that game was, but it was pretty lethargic. It was almost like military. You will put your dick in her pussy now. Pump, pump, come. Okay, done. Yeah, it wasn't quite that bad, but yeah. Almost. Almost. Damn there, it might have been two more pumps. I was about to. It's like, I don't want to criticize, but it was like really, I expected for a young guy, I expected a lot more energy and okay, let's do this, let's do that, come on. If someone gives me the availability, let's pretend I don't have, you know, I've been with, I haven't been with With more than three women. Okay. Which is, I think, where the number I'm at. You know, says, okay, here's a woman. You don't have to worry about getting her pregnant. Right, right. She's open. There's no whole off limits. Right, exactly. You know, she's attractive. Well, I don't know about that. In moderately good shape. Shut up. Close one eye and squint the other. Oh, yeah, I can see it. Yeah, okay. You know, if you close both eyes and fantasize, she's in great shape. I'm in great shape. Okay. Okay. But, you know, it's like, okay. And I wasn't even like I was right there. No, you were in the pool. I was in the pool running the cameras remotely with an iPad from in the pool. I wasn't, so I kind of felt that, you know, his younger nature would make him a little more uncomfortable if I was right there. Right. So I, there was, you know, I didn't have a clear view of anything other than what I saw on the iPad. Exactly. So there's no reason for him to get camera shy. Well, he wasn't. He was able to get hard. Come twice? Yeah. Okay. So. Oh, no, he didn't come twice. He only came once. Once? Okay. I wasn't there. I told you. Yeah. But it was like, you sit there and like, okay, I'm going to work this. I'm going to tear her up, man. I'm going to work this for everything I can. Yeah. No, he sat there with his hands down by his side. It was like, like I said, he was like at attention sitting down. You know, it's like when you're a kid, your parents are, you sit there, Put your hands to your side, do not move. You will sit there and not move till I tell you to. That was, yeah, that was, and he did not move. Yeah. Is this something you think, I guess, is this something like his upbringing? I mean, his upbringing hopefully wasn't sexual, but I mean, it's just like he didn't learn to be caring or naturing or. Nurturing. Romantic, nurturing that too. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of small talk. It was very, I think that's It's a learned thing. I mean, some of it's definitely nature because you're going to like what you like. Sure. But I think the actual learning how people do small talk and flirting before the actual sex comes along. He missed that. Okay. If I'm with a woman, which one of these days I hope to be. Someday, hon. I'll hook you up with one. I hope so. You're going to sit there and like, oh my God, you're so beautiful. You're sexy. Rub your hands over her. Right. I mean, most guys are pawing at me. You know, holding her ass, pulling her in tight, sucking tits. You know. Okay, let's pretend I don't eat pussy, but I do. You know, still. You know, if the woman is, and I feel safe in saying this, above his pay grade, I'm going to go the extra mile. Yeah, I definitely would. It's not like you have a big hairy pussy stinking like piss. Oh, oh. It's a shaved pussy that smells like piss. There you go. No. Thanks. It's so much better now. No, but I mean, it's just like, okay, you got to shave pussy. It's smooth and clean. Right. You know, it's like, wait, I don't have to wear condoms because she can't get pregnant and everything else. It's just like, oh, I can have anal sex with her. Dude, this is like Christmas in fucking August. I don't know what was going on. Oh my God. I am going to do everything I can to wow this woman. So she invites me back an hour from now. Well, he didn't see it that way for some reason. Apparently. Yeah, it was kind of like... I mean, not like the pictures you saw on her profile aren't you. Right. I know. I know. I don't get it. Yeah. And he contacted us. So we're... But we've run into other gentlemen. Again, I'm really not trying to pick on him solely. Right. But we've run into other men that were just kind of like... Blah? Yeah, and I've run into some women like that too. They just don't like... They don't move when you're... Yeah. Are you alive? Do you watch porn? Do you see how people enjoy it? It can be a lot more pleasurable if you are involved in it. If you're involved in it. Yeah, truly. It's sort of like when I cook a meal. If I don't hear people like, wow, this is good, this is delicious, this is great, then I'm sitting there like, okay, how bad's the meal? It's the same thing with sex. If someone isn't making any kind of positive noise. Positive noise. You know, I mean, I'm used to you yawning. That's different. I don't know what you're talking about, dear. You know, I mean, like, I made note today when I was trying to edit the video. You know, you're sitting there sucking his dick. He's just sitting there, like, staring at you. It's like, most, 99% of the guys roll their head back, their eyes are closed, and they're like, oh. Oh, fuck, yeah. He's like, doo. He's like, looking around, looking up at the sky. The choo-choo went through the tunnel. Checking his watch. It's like, oh, my goodness. Yeah, it was, it was a little bit lackluster. I mean, even if it was someone, let's pretend he'd never had sex before. There is going to be like, oh, my God, that feels good. I mean, of the three men you've been with. The three? Okay. Today. How much positive feedback have you gotten about your blowjobs? A lot. I mean, I've gotten quite a bit. I mean, everybody has their own thing. Sure. Well, I mean, but it's all been positive. They might sit there, oh, tug my balls like you're starting a lawnmower. Or click my balls. Or, you know, go slower down my shaft. Whatever. Whatever, but it's positive. This guy? Nothing. I mean, no response. It was robotic. Yeah, no response, no reaction. A robot would always, thank you, that feels so good. A robot would have more inflection. It's just amazing. It's like, dude, do you have any feeling in your cock at all? At all, maybe a little bit. Do you know what you're looking for? Are you having to suck your dick and you think your stomach's going to get full? Like, oh, that was a good meal. It was kind of, yeah, a little, it was disappointing across the board. Usually, you expect some kind of reaction. Sure. You know, a positive reaction to what you're doing. A few weeks ago, we had that other young guy here, and he was so into it. He was calling you his cum slut and everything else. Oh, yeah, he was really into it. Pulling your hair. Yeah, yeah, he was loving it. Yeah, but then this guy was like, crickets, crickets. I know. I don't know why. Maybe he's trying to discern if he's gay or not. Maybe. Maybe he's just like, ooh, she's female. I don't know. I don't know. He reached out to us. We didn't reach out to him. Why would you reach out if you're really not interested? I don't know. But again, there is that unique dynamic of fucking a guy's wife in front of the husband. And I'm not a small man. Right, but you weren't. You were away. Well, I was still right there. Yeah. I could have, you know, if something went wrong, I could have been from where I was to in his face in, you know. In minutes. In hours. 20 minutes or so. I mean, I would have to run up, get a bourbon, relax a little, a cigar. Yeah, and then come down. What was I doing again? Oh, yeah. That's right. Donna was in trouble. Don't forget about her. What was the trouble she was in again? Oh, I don't know. I don't remember. Move on. Yeah. We have another bourbon. Thanks. I rate on your, you know, scale of what's most important to you. I'm a comparable scale to how I rate on yours, so. Shut up. Ooh, this made funny. Wow. Wow, that's tough. So anyway, Donna left a show. I'm sorry, it's now the Hot Husband Podcast once again. Okay, okay. I gotta be careful. Don't fuck with the guy running the board. I have to remember that. I don't mean fuck. I mean, like, don't mess. How's that? Don't mess with. So, yeah, it was a very interesting endeavor, but it really, it left a scratch on our heads. It really did. So, again, the original question, is it nature or nurture? Do you think that's something he didn't grow up in a family that has a lot of nurturing, a lot of care? Like, you know, I grew up, you know, as dysfunctional as my family was, Yeah, my parents always told me they loved me, and it's like my parents hugged me, my mom did, and stuff like that. So there's always that kind of, and again, having half Sicilian background, you tend to be a little more romantic. Well, certainly. And I've watched a fuckload of porn in my days. Oh, so that's romance. No, but you kind of get the idea. Yeah. And you sit there and go, wow, he's pulling her hair. So yeah, it's like, let me try pulling her hair. Oh, and she's like, oh, yeah, Yeah, she likes that. Okay. You know what? Her liking that kind of turns me on more. Right. Well, that would, I hope that's what it would be. Yeah. Again, well, you don't have an A game for any foreplay. No foreplay at all. No foreplay at all, man. That just, your game is nil. You know, that's like going to a tennis match without a racket. Yeah, it was like, I think we kissed for like a whole second or two. Yeah. Well, you talk out of that. Yeah, he didn't want to get any kind of bodily fluids on him, did he? Yeah, I mean. It was okay for him to put his bodily fluids in me, but not okay for me to put my bodily fluids on him. Well, if you climbed on his cock, you kind of did. Yeah, I know. Some level. Somewhat, yeah. Yeah, I just don't get that. I mean, these people we've met, like I said, I dated one girl who, yeah, she loved me fucking her and going down on her, but yeah, she wouldn't even put her hand on my dick. Even on top of my clothes, she wouldn't do it. Why not? She had some bad experience. She wouldn't tell me what it was. I can only guess because she wouldn't put her hand on top of my pants, under my pants, without pants, her mouth anywhere on my pants. Right. I can only think that she grabbed a guy's dick and it came off. It came off. Okay. Yeah. And she treated it like the pin on a grenade. Oh, I'm so sorry. And then she threw it away. I wonder if her name was Lorena. Maybe. She was a great kisser, and she was super orgasmic. I could rub her on top of her pants or rub her on top of her shirt, like on her bra. She could wear her bra and shirt. I could just rub her tits on top of that. She would have an orgasm. I'm rubbing my tits. She had so many goddamn orgasms. No, I just would not get it for me. Everyone's different. Yeah, she must have been so sensitive. Oh, she was. Oh, my God. ever played with. Yeah, it feels good, but I don't think it's going to get me there. No. My nipples, no, don't bring me pleasure. No, no. They don't bring me flowers anymore either. No. So, yeah, I mean, it's, who taught him, you know. Or didn't teach him. Or didn't teach him his, quote, love making skills, you know. Was he just like, you know, go to your room and be quiet and just like. I don't know. I guess he had to be quiet when he was masturbating. I don't know. They made no noise. None. Like, we could have been having sex in a church, and nobody would have heard us. In front of the church, no one would have heard you. No. With microphones. With microphones, nobody heard us. Yeah, it was. It was by far the most boring sex I've ever seen you have, besides with me. Stop it. Sex with you isn't that boring. Yeah, I know. It's coming. It's not boring at all. How'd you telegraph that one? Not boring at all. Yeah, it was, like, there was no noise. any kind of... No feedback. No feedback. Yeah, I was going to say affirmation. There was no affirmation. It wasn't like, oh, that feels good. That feels horrible. You pee... Nothing. I didn't even get the you pee out of that at that point. Well, he told us that later. Later. It was like... When you said, after you guys were done, you said, so you don't like giving oral. Oh, no, you pee out of that. That's dirty. Yeah, he was like... But you put your dick in it. Yep, yep. Now, did he have... Did he go and eat someone's pussy who was like big and hairy and nasty? Yeah, someone just got done jogging a few miles Well, that'll ruin it. That was one thing. That girl I dated, she had a big hairy pussy. She could shower. It still held that pissy smell. We've talked about this. I don't care. I won't be able to argue to the nth degree. Hairy pussies are horrible. If you want to have a patch above, but with the lips and everything, you've got to shave it. That shit just holds the smell of piss. If you're having your That could be nasty. It's just brutal. It just holds the... And people who are like, oh, you just like little... No, fuck you. Get over that shit, okay? It's not about little girls. Get over that, you fucking pedophile. It's not about that. You know what? I kind of like to taste pussy. I don't want to taste fucking pussy hair. I remember that one guy that came here to play. Oh, he was just a disappointment all the way around. He was another one. You married me. No, shut up. No, we took his first role. It was like, you know, most guys wear like kind of attractive underwear to some degree. You know, they wear something that's a little bit, you know, like, oh, nasty, tighty whiteys. I mean, nasty ones. He had a big, hairy bush down there. Did you talk about me again? No. You sure? I'm positive. Okay. It was awful. It was just awful. It was terrible. Okay. Yeah, I don't remember who you talked about. You'll tell me later. It was an older guy. That doesn't matter. Yeah. But it was, it was, and it's like, he didn't, I think he was cheating on his wife because he didn't do anything. That's that artist, is it? No, that artist was also big and hairy. Oh my God. Yeah. He was terrible too. Oh, sorry. It was, it was just not a pleasant experience, but it was, yeah, it was, especially when you pull someone's underwear up and you see this fucking poodle in their lap. You have to sort through the hair to find the dick. I was coughing up hairballs for days. It was terrible. It was. You and the cat. Yeah. Ugh. Awful. Just awful. I should have just said, nope, I'm not going there. But I gave the college try, and I... It was awful. It was just awful. Giving a blowjob and getting dental floss at the same time. Oh, it was just terrible. How can anybody think that's pleasurable? That was just... I mean, hey, everybody's different. I know. It was just not a good experience. Yeah. Well, even from the receiving end, when you're shaved, it just feels so much better. We have a woman gagging because of hair. Oh, my God. They gag normally because of me. But if they're gagging because of hair. Your cock is so big. Compared to an ant. I didn't say anything compared to anything. I'm waiting for you to argue, but you're not going to. So that's fine. I get the hint. Okay. Gosh, you're such an ass. Thank you. At least I have one good treat. Yes, you do. You have a couple good treats. But yeah, it was some... You go to work. You're not home for hours. Stop it, Vince. But anyway... My God, you make it sound like I'm evil or something. You said it. I didn't. All right. Okay, so... But yeah, it's... Don't people see... And we've run into a lot of guys. A lot of them have been the guys with the biggest cocks. They don't do oral. No. They just want to put their dick in. They think, well, I got a big dick. You should be sitting here sopping wet. It's like, yeah, a little foreplay. Get the motor running. You don't just start the car, jam it, and drive, and go. You got to warm it up. That would be nice. Especially when it's, you know, 14 inches of bad road. 14 inches of bad road. Yeah, that could be a little bit uncomfortable, for sure. Yeah, you would think that it's just like, no, it's like, let's everyone get a little more excited. Mm-hmm. Before you go into it. There are these people that don't put the time into warming the car up. I'd say there's a lot of them that don't do that. Too many. I can't say majority, but there are, you know, if you're one of those people and you're listening, here's a secret, both men and women, foreplay. When I mentioned the word foreplay, let's go with the word foreplay. You know what? If you don't suck dick or eat pussy, you should learn. Okay, we all want them to be clean. Oh, absolutely. Okay, we don't want to get a big old cheesy whatever. Okay, we want it to be clean. Right, that's a no-brainer there. So, yeah, I get it. If someone says, hey, honey, I just jogged 16 miles, you want to eat my pussy? It's like, no. I'll tell you, I'll wait till you get your shower. There you go. You know, they go, no, let's do it now. No, how about we start in the shower? And you know what? I can't wait to laugh. Yeah, they're up your pussy. I'm going to scrub that motherfucker so clean, baby. I like it when you talk dirty. Yeah? It's the same as, hey, honey, I was out back building a new deck. I'm all sweaty. How about we go in the bedroom and, you know, you suck my cheesy cock. Oh. And then you go, oh, honey, you're going to be really hot as washing all that sweat and dirt off you, especially your cock. I get that. Oh, my God, yeah. It's like, you know, just, you know, You know, foreplay. I'm telling you, it makes a difference. I think it does. Oh, I know it does. You know, but some of these guys just don't. And women. And women. I can't pick on Sully Met. True. That's true. You know, so. But, yeah, put the time into some foreplay. You know, and don't be a one-trick pony. Oh, I have a big dick, so you just need to fuck me. No, that's not it, guys. You know what? Well, that's not it for me. I knew that. The same as if you're a good-looking woman with a great body and everything else. Just think, oh, I want to fuck me, and then we're done. No. It's got to be the whole experience. Right. You know, some foreplay, you know, whatever. Okay, if you're a woman, I'm not going to go with the other gender. You're a woman, and you, you know, it's like, listen, I don't want you to come in my mouth. Guys, respect that. Say, okay, I won't come in your mouth. Right, right. You know, let her suck. If you get close, go, hey, I need better stop. I'm going to come. You know what? You'll gain a Yeah, some people find it kind of disrespectful. I don't like women. Don't tell me they're on their period. That ruins it for me. You know, if it looks like a chainsaw accident, I'm not going down. No. Up Periscope. It's not happening. We're getting away, you know. So it's, we're down Periscope, actually. Yeah, down Periscope. Yeah, it's, no, man, it's, you know, make it a good experience. Every time it should be a good experience. Right. And then there's people that just don't. Have any experience, apparently. Or hygiene is questionable, not good. Or big, hairy, you know, grooming. I'm a fan of some kind of grooming. You don't have to be shaved smooth. Trim it. Yeah, trim it. And don't poke your eye out with your cubic hair. Yeah. You know, again, if it sounds like your cat on a hairball. Oh, God, that was awful. It's just like, ah, this kind of ruins it when. Somebody's back there gagging. Yeah. Not in a good way. No. Is there a good way to get? Well, yeah, there is. Yeah, there is. I've never experienced that. I have, but. Yeah, you have. Yeah, just once or twice. Yeah. Yeah, those are things I think that should be really important. Cleanliness, grooming. Yep. You know, take the time to do some kind of foreplay. Yep. I mean, one of the things that we're big on is if we're going to play around. Well, yeah, it's kind of a no-brainer. Well, for us, not for everybody. We have a friend who, when she was married, talked about her husband would get down a 12-hour shift to work, come in, and like, okay, I need you to suck my dick. It's just like, you've just been working in the kitchen. You're all sweaty and nasty, unshowered, and you expect me to suck your cheesy dick? Oh, I'm going to be sick. Stop that. You know who I'm talking about. I know exactly who you're talking about. You know, it's just like, hey, no. Oh, absolutely no. I wouldn't even have, it'd be like, okay, if she just ran a 20-mile marathon or whatever marathons are, whatever. 26.4. Whatever, whatever. You know, it's like, oh, yeah, here. You want to see what it smells like to be on a tuna boat? Go down on me. No. Yeah, exactly. It's supposed to be a good experience. Not a stinky, gross, sweaty... It's like, God, I hate this person. I want them to suck my smelly, sweaty cock. Maybe that's it. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe that's it. I'm not judging, I'm just saying. I just can't imagine. I'd be embarrassed. Yeah, I don't know what the problem was there. It just didn't make sense to me. Happens in various cultures and people. Anyway, okay, got that off my chest. You feel better now? Yeah, I think so. So don't forget to check out our free magazine, 50ShadesOfPleasure.com. If you want to write an article, love to have it. Check out Donna's stuff at? At HotWifeDonnaLynn.com. I'm posting stuff every day. See what she's doing, who she's doing. Who's I'm doing? And other than that, again, thank everyone for listening and, you know, stay horny. Okay. Have a great night, everybody.