The Allure of Wife Breeding

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Speaker1: This program contains strong sexual content. No one under the age of 18 is permitted to listen to or download the podcast in any manner. The host, guest, and performers are all over the age of 18. Rebroadcasting this podcast in any manner is strictly prohibited without the written consent of the owners of the Hot Wife Podcast. The commentary of this program is the sole opinion of its host or guest and does not reflect that of the opinion of the Hot Wife Podcast's owners, agents, or representatives. This podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice. Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome once again to my Hot Wife podcast. I'm here again with my wonderful husband, Vince. Your husband? I don't know about wonderful. Oh, come on. Anyway. You're wonderful to me, dear. You're obviously drunk and stoned and everything else. Well, I... Like the last show. Oh, man. Yeah, I... You were fine. You said I was fine. I don't know. I apologize if I was like going off on some tangent about I don't know what. Yeah, you were good. You were good. I just. I've had my shows where I was a blithering drunk, so you're about to have. That'll be the last time I. Yeah, right. Smooth pot like that. Yeah, yeah. Teachers are one thing. And I'm done drinking alcohol. Yeah, right. Yeah, okay. As I sip vodka. A dirty martini. Is it a dirty one or just. It's dirty. Just not dirty. Just a dirty. Just filthy. Everything. Just so dirty, Martina. God, look at that cloudy water and those olives. God, those olives are so green. Makes me want to just lick it. I swallow those olives after I chew them. Okay. You're just so wrong. I don't even know where to respond. How do you respond to that, people? I have no idea. I just walk away. Just walk away. 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Which city is getting molested today? Oh my God, yeah. All the fun I'm having. Let's put it that way. So, oh, don't forget to check out my free swinger magazine, 50shadesofpleasure.com. It is free, F-I-F-T-Y, shadesofpleasure.com. It's a free digital magazine. go check it out you know and again if you have something you want to submit articles or a column about something or you come up with a topic love to hear from you let us know yeah we'd love that yeah um gotten a couple emails and messages lately from new listeners which is pretty cool one of them asked about the spunk loop we sent him some yes he did um and another gentleman actually sent me a video of again we're not going to mention names, sent me a video of his wife with one of their favorite players. They practice the hot wife lifestyle. That's just awesome. It was a very erotic little video. It was erotic. I always enjoy seeing that stuff. I'm not gay or dead. No, no. Mentally, shot. None of these things, not yet. I got to talk to our accountant the other day doing her taxes, and here's a woman who is very vanilla, but enjoys the podcast. I'd be interested, In hearing from other people who have stumbled across the podcast who practice a vanilla lifestyle but like the podcast. I'd really like to hear from you. I think it'd be a, you know, tell us about yourself and what you'd like about the podcast. Is it something like you, the fantasy of being a swinger or just the stupid, stupid things we say on the show? I mean, I don't know. Which is the whole show. That's probably the latter there. I'm sure. It's all right. They listen. It's all matters. So with that said, the one thing, so today you got to have fun with one of your regular playmates. Yes, earlier today. So I'm still having, I think I'm a little crusty in my face still. I'm going to take it to the car washroom. We're done. Power washroom. I might enjoy that. You got to do something a little different. You did this years and years ago, but I mean years and years ago. Oh yeah. But you got to do something more recently. You did something, what'd you tell a story? Yeah. Well, we have My inversion table and my husband perversion table is now. But when I used it before, I was on and I was upside down and I was giving my playmate a blowjob that way. The previous one. The previous one, yeah, years ago. And I was like, well, we have this inversion table or perversion table now. Absolutely. I said, let's use that. I mean, my playmate's in really good shape, you know, so his abs could do it because you can't be like, you know, somebody who isn't in a shape and fit otherwise. It could be a problem. Oh, like me? So like my belly would flop up and cover my face and smother me? Probably. Well, I'm glad you said that, not me. How did he die? Well, the fat fuck was on the inversion table. He went upside down. He went upside down and the fat rolls would run up and smothered him. I considered it suicide. He knew how fat he was. Well, it could be difficult if you don't have like abdominal muscles, if you're not in a good position and you're not going to be able to pull your feet. You're staring at me while you say that. I'm really staring at you. So anyways, I picked a playmate that would be able to do this. So actually, he was on the inversion perversion table, and I squatted over his face so he could eat my pussy, and I'm just a teeny bit short, but I could still blow him when he's upside down, so that was kind of cool. Why are you showing the knife to me? No, I'm just opening up my multi-tool. I just reached in there and opened one, and it happened to be a knife. Oh, I was like, what are you playing with the knife for? Stop that. I'm sure. So that was actually kind of cool, because I could blow them, and I could be eating like a 69, except we're on this inversion table, and it's not straight up and down, but it's like all fall into like an angle, so that was kind of cool. Yeah, it was kind of cool, kind of erotic, yeah. You know, we have to modify a couple things, so we can do some other pretty cool short baby. Yeah, I'm just a little bit short, like I wanted him to be on the table and like just have me like bend over, like touch my toes, and he could just Like, fuck me, kind of doggy, but like, you know, do anal that way. And I'm just like a couple inches too short. That's the story of my life. Yeah. I'm sure you'd understand that. I'm right there with you. Yeah. So next time, if I could wear heels or something with a little bit of a lift, I think that would work. Okay. You wear your Dora the Explorer. Dora the Explorer heels, yeah, with the little blinking lights. So I'm just a little bit short for that. Four foot eleven. Hey, fuck. Actually, I was getting gas the other day. Oh, you had gas. Wow, that's a new one. I was getting it, yeah. And I was even getting some for my truck. Oh, there you go. And a woman pulled up a couple pumps over her, and she got out of the thing, and I was like, wow. Donna's an Amazon compared to that. Oh, really? Literally, this woman, and she wasn't like a dwarf or whatever. She was proportionate across the board. But she probably, I'm going to guess, you're 4'11". She might have been 4'7". Oh, yeah. Oh, that's quite a bit shorter than me. Maybe 4'6". I think she would have had to jump a little, see over the hood. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah. I mean, it's a pain in the ass. What car was she driving? Subaru. Yeah, the Subarus fit me. Like, my Ikea does not fit me. You're meant for small little lesbians. Small little lesbians. Like, my legs are too short. Pocket-sized lesbians. I have to have pillows in all the cars I drive. I always have to have a seat. So anyway, let's go back to the erotic stuff. Yeah, forget about the car. So I'm just too short to do the anal. I wanted to do anal, and I just, I couldn't, I wasn't, So we ended up flipping around, and I had him on the perversion table, and I was blowing him some more, like on my knees. It was like a vertical 69ing. Yeah, well, I did the vertical 69ing. Then it was just like regular, like he was standing up, and I was on my knees blowing him, and then we went to the other side. Yeah, unlike, you know, like some guys like to pick a woman up and flip her upside down, but no one was picking anybody up. He was actually on the perversion table, and it was upside down, and You know, I'm videotaping, so I can't say a whole lot because no one wants to hear me. But, you know, he's upside down, and I'm trying to motion to you. You might need to give him a break. All the blood is... Yeah, I got your sign language. He started to move a little bit, and he started coming up. He just got deeper into your pussy with his face. And you're like, oh, you don't want to get up. I'm like, he probably can't talk. So I did. I let him up. I figured it was long enough. You let him up. It was nice of you. Nice of you. Eat my pussy. Maybe I'll let you up. Eat my pussy, boy. That was fun. That was a good time. And then, well, we flipped him around, so he was like leaning against the perversion table, and again, I was on my knees. With the blood rush to the other head. Exactly. And he gave me, wow, that was a huge fucking creep. I know. It was bouncing off your face and coming towards me. I crawled back. My fucking ass grew legs, man. I'm walking backwards with my ass cheeks. Fucking cum coming towards me. I know, I got it all over my face. I mean, I thought I was about to get engaged to him or something. Yeah, that was a very good facial. Yeah. That was a lot. Yeah, he saved that fucker up. Yeah, he did. That was super fun. So, okay, so that was this afternoon. Yes, that was this afternoon. That was a good time. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. A lot of fun. So, what's the topic? Oh, white breeding. So, on that note, I didn't get a cream pie if I'd gotten a cream pie that would have been a better segue, but I got a facial, but that's okay. That's all right. Sperms are flying. Yeah, sperms are flying. There's a t-shirt. Sperms are flying. Go ahead. Oh, I'd wear that. I will wear it. Because it depends on where it's flying to or from. Exactly. So, yeah, this whole thing with the whole wife breeding thing, I've seen a lot of videos and people talk about it and, you know, the gang, there's a gang bang guy. Generally, it's a big fantasy. Yeah, it is a big. something people do practice well he can practice but not to not to finish not to the actual individuals yeah that's up to them sure i think it's just basically kept as a fantasy with the alpha alpha male or the bull coming into sure i've seen a lot of it um with interracial sex yes absolutely i've seen videos labeled where the wife is doing a uh a bbc gang bang and it's like you They want them to breed her. It's a big cream pie party. Yeah, huge cream pie party. The husband's like, yeah, I want all you guys to dump into her. So we don't know who the father is, but just fill her up and impregnate her. What, do you think that's the fantasy of it? Do you think that's the reality of it? I would say probably 99.9% of the time it's a fantasy. Oh, I would think so too. to your family. It's like, Vince, your child's cute. It doesn't look like either of you guys. It looks a little dark. Do you ever think Donna might be cheating on you? No, Donna's not cheating on me. Did you notice your child? It doesn't look like you. It looks like an African American. Yep, yep, it does, yep. It sure does. That doesn't, why were you? Not really, no. Donna got pregnant during that BBC gangbang. Oh, huh? Yeah, exactly. A what? Yeah, that would open a whole other can of worms. You know, I mean, I'm not saying if it, I'm sure people have gotten impregnated by someone they're playing with that isn't their significant other. I'm sure that's happened. And they still have raised a child and everything else, and that's great. But, you know, it's one thing, I mean, unless your family knows about it, you and what you do. You want to keep that on the down low. I think this is something that's definitely more of a fantasy. Definitely more of a fantasy than actual completion. Sure. Oh, I think the fantasy you can relive over and over again. Yes. You know, it's like how many times you want to get your wife pregnant, period, whether it's you or somebody else, and go, oh, no, that's my fantasy. I want 17 kids. Exactly. And 35 different men. Exactly. I don't. I mean, the fantasy is very alluring, but the reality is, no. Your second child looks African American. Your third child has an Asian twist. Well, we decided to do a whole. And then your fourth kid looks half Latino and half Middle Eastern. Okay, that's a mixture. Juan Ahmed? No, he's fine. Yeah, I... But no, the fantasy of it, of... You know, I mean, again, if that's your fantasy to... To go through that, I mean, and we'll stick with the pretend aspect. Yeah, the fantasy, I think, is... That's fine, you know. I mean, you've had people ask you for custom videos where they want to see you get pregnant. Oh, yeah, that's a huge one. That's a huge one. Yeah. You know, tell me how strong your sperm is and how much, you know, how virile you are. Yeah, that's a whole huge fantasy. I'm Vince's sperm. I'm Eddie Virile. To the pussy. To the pussy. Fuck the choppers. No, no. To the egg we go. thing that seems to, you know, guys want to, they're always looking for a bull or somebody who's the alpha male for their wife. Now, do you find that kind of, when I think of that, I think it's kind of, this is just my personal opinion, kind of degrading to the husband, or is that just part of the fantasy? Well, it depends if the husband's an alpha or not. Well, if he's an alpha. See, I'm an alpha. Right. In all fairness, I mean, you know, I don't, I'm not intimidated, nor do I want to be degraded. Right. I've made that clear to people you play with. Right, exactly. Yeah, don't sit there and try to degrade me because I will beat you to death while you're naked. That's not a pretty picture. No, but I mean. No, I mean people who are into that, that they feel they're not an alpha, that's fine. I mean, I don't go walk around beating my chest and say I'm an alpha. Right. There are people, again, we know people that have been, women that have been doms. Right. And they talk about some of their biggest clients, patrons, whatever you want to call them, being people of power. I mean, I dated that one woman I talked about. Oh, that's true, too. At work, she was so dominant. But as soon as we left work, you know, I could say to her, hey, where do you want to go eat? Oh, I don't care. Like a wet rag. Have an opinion, please. What are we doing this weekend? Oh, whatever you want to do. But at work, it's like, about this project. Yes, you will do it this day. Jesus Christ. You brought the whole web. Yeah, so... Go do this. You know, so maybe these guys, maybe... You know, I can't really speak to the... Yeah, this is definitely out of our realm. Yeah, so much is. So much is. Paying bills, making money. Oh, shut up. We don't understand that either. Long division. Why the alphabet song... Why the alphabet's in the way it is? Is that because he wrote the song? You know? So, yeah. Are these predominantly guys that are in normal life, very dominant, but when it comes sexually, they become very submissive? That could be definitely one scenario. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then sometimes the man is just more subservient or more of a sub in general. And so he, we've heard of couples, or I remember talking to somebody in the lifestyle. And that's what his, he wanted to find a bull for his wife. You know, a very dominant but not overly dominant, you know, man. Black, white, they didn't care. They just wanted a bull for his wife. And I just think he was just. We know a couple, they were going to shoot with us. Yeah. Okay. Great couple. Right. I don't find the husband necessary to be alpha. I don't know, you can agree with me or whatever. I'm not sure what couple you're reading. They were going to You make a lot of hand gestures. I don't know what you're trying to do. Oh, okay. Okay. Doing the hair thing. Okay, the hair. I get it now. He's making all these weird gestures. I'm like, I don't know who the fuck you're talking about, dude. I have no idea. Now I do. Okay. The husband, great guy. Yes, great guy. He's not an alpha. He's a little... I wouldn't say he's not an alpha. He's very low-keyed. He goes with the flow. He expresses what he likes. She plays along, but then ultimately when it gets to getting up to the line... She backs up. Yeah. So she's the one who's the dominant one. Yeah. And that's fine. That's fine. Well, here's the thing. Sometimes just talking about it and stuff is very exciting. Then when the rubber hits the asphalt, you're like, You know what? That means you missed your pussy and you hit your... Oh, that's going to be very painful. Ouch. That's not good foreplay right there. Don't fuck on the road. I'm just wondering, their case sometimes, the whole entire thing is the fantasy is what does it for them. Oh, I'm convinced. And that actually is what's coming to my mind is as an example of this. Never even has to materialize. Yeah, he wants to see her. Mm-hmm. And I think she's not necessarily opposed to it 100%. Right. But she's not on board 100%. Right, that's a weird dynamic there. That's fine. Some people, taking one for the team. We've talked about that. Oh, yeah. Well, it could be, too. We've talked about things like certain threesomes, and they sound really great in my head and very erotic, and I know I definitely want to do them again. It's not like I haven't done them, but sometimes, like you said, the fantasy is more erotic than the actual act, and sometimes with people, certain people, The fantasy is enough. Just talking about, oh, baby, I want to see you with somebody else. I want to see you spit-roasted. I want to see that, you know, the cum dripping out of your pussy. And sometimes that's enough. And I keep telling you, I don't have a pussy. That's not a pussy. Oh, okay, I want to see that cum dripping out of your ass. And then I tell you, that's only one of us. Both of us don't want that. Well, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes I think that that's enough. And that's too much. That's too much. Yeah, I mean, there's something very erotic about being, having a guy come inside your pussy that's not your husband. For a second, I was getting scared. Okay. I'm speaking from my point of view. Something sexy about having a guy come in your husband's ass. No. Unless you're into that, when I know you're not. He's gagging again. Do I need to bring up? No, we're not talking about ass eating. Come on. Write a song about it. Let me rephrase that whole thing. Man eating woman's ass. Fine. Woman eating woman's ass. Fine. Anyone eating man's ass, not good. Okay. Not even visually attractive. Okay. We beat that horse to death. It's like putting a cigarette out and fried eggs. Not attractive. Not attractive. Well, there's this whole thing about the whole thing. Wife breeding thing. It's breaking a taboo because, you know, it is somebody else's come. That's kind of what I was getting at. Well, the whole hot wifing thing. Oh, yeah. You hear the whole phrase, Stephen, our number one fan. Oh, number one fan. Hi, buddy. And it's teetering. It's tithering or teetering, whatever. Teetering? Teetering, it's a word. Tittering. No, tittering is, if you titter, it's different than teetering. Teetering is like, you're on the tip and you could fall over the fence one way or the other. Okay, so anyway, we'll stick with the interesting stuff now. You used the wrong fucking word. I use what word I want. You can't just make up words. He's teetering. I run the board. I can make up words. He's tittering. Okay, so he's on the fence whether he's still going to be our number one fan. He doesn't reach out so much. We have a gentleman who sends me jokes and stuff like that. He's climbing the ranks, baby. He's climbing the ranks. He's right there. I know two more jokes. I think he overtakes Stephen. Okay, go on. What were you going to say about being on the fence? Oh, no. They talk about reclaiming. Like when you play, if you're fucking another man's wife, then the husband can get to go reclaim you. Right, right. And that's a whole big thing. I mean, to me, it's like, they make it sound like it's a big game, like Dungeons and Dragons, which is a BDSM thing. But anyway, No, I don't have to reclaim her. She's mine anyway. I just, you know. I just, I just loan her out and then power wash her. I don't even loan her out. It's like, I give you free will. Oh, that's true. That's the way I look at it. It's, and, and God bless you. You, like you said, Hey, so-and-so's coming over tomorrow at one o'clock. Is that okay with you? It's like, I'm okay with it. It's up to you. I'm not fucking the guy. Well, I want to make sure you don't have, you know, no, I had my, my girlfriend's coming over and you got to hold the camera this time and you know, whatever. Join in or go home. Tell me one time that happened. Never. Said Vince never. But okay. But you could. If I tell you that, it means I'm going down to the studio, going to lock the doors and masturbate. Oh, that's code? My girlfriend's coming over. It's Rosie Palm and her four sisters. If you see me just scrubbing one hand in the kitchen. I'm cleaning as fast as I can. Moisturizing just the one hand so I feel soft. I'll clean it as fast as I can. It's mine. As often as I want. Oh my god, you're just so not right. But yeah, there's... I'm very right. Well, for us, there is no reclaiming. I mean, some guys know that I have to go back and, you know, dirty her up again. But whatever. I mean, whatever your fantasy is. In all fairness, like, one thing we're not into is choking. Yeah, okay. And we tell guys you play with, don't choke. Don't choke me. Because... dangerous. Well, besides that, besides that, I don't feel, I hate to sound. Like my dad and say it's degrading. None he's ever said that. I saw your dad. Where's the cigarette? It's also my dad. Same impersonation. Of course, actually the same impersonation. Here's our dads now. Birth deceased. Okay. Okay. Moving on to something happier. But anyway, You think it's degrading. It's degrading. And again, I don't want to sound like I'm someone who claims property. I don't think of you as property because there's no value there. The interest rates keep going up, but there's still no value there. It's plummeting. It's a super fun site. It has no street value. I can see the super fun site. Wait a minute. I like the super fun analogy. I didn't say fun. I said fund. Fund. Yeah, I put a D in there. You should be trying to be a super fun sight. I was this afternoon. Not to me. But anyway. Oh, well, too bad for you. Wow. Let's just say it was a super fun. A lot of things get dumped in me, okay? I'm just saying. Exactly. If I liked you, that would hurt. But anyway, no, I'll use a phrase, a terminology that, like, you're mine. Right. I don't mean that in a possessive way. Can I just get out of these shackles, please? For once? No. Put the ball gag back in. But anyway. No, you're someone I care about. That might be better to say. So I don't want to see harm or the portrayal of harm to you. Right. That infuriates me. Right. I'm a very protective person, but not possessive. Oh, there's a difference between. Oh, sure there is. No, no, I'm agreeing. I'm just saying that. That's actually interesting. Yeah, you're not possessive, you're protective. Yeah. And there is a difference. Yes, there is. Yeah. Like, you get obsessed sometimes when guys smack my ass too hard, and it's fine, because my ass gets red really easy anyway. I think it just looks good visually. Yeah, but then, back to my seat, they do that, and you're, like, doing a video, like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh. But then, like, after they leave and everything, it's like, motherfucker, smack my ass kind of hard. It's like, well, then don't let them smack your ass. Sometimes you complain about it. Yeah, sometimes. You can't have it both ways. Yeah, I agree. When I looked at the video, I'm like, yeah, I'm glad I didn't complain because it looked really good. I think I can get over that. You didn't complain? When did that ever happen? Oh. I'm looking out the window right now. I don't see the four horsemen on the horizon. Shut up. Shut up. Anyway, so back to the topic. We kind of wandered off. Breeding. Breeding, yeah. I mean, the fantasy of it, of, and again, for you, I mean, you're past the point of ever being able to get pregnant again. Oh, yeah, I believe that. So let me ask you a question about that. We have other topics that are kind of related. Yeah. Is there a level of empowerment, hang on, for you, knowing, one, you're making this guy or guys or team. Or calendar. Or the 5th Regiment. Have an orgasm. Like, bringing them to orgasm. And like, kind of, say it's a cream pie, obviously. Like, empowering them. Like, you're like, okay, yeah, I'm going to let you come in me. Is there an empowerment for you with that? Well, yeah. In fact, that's funny when you gave me this list of the white breeding. And female empowerment is next on the list. Sure. You know. Yeah. Oh, I definitely think it's, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Yeah, it's, you can say, call it empowerment. There's a, there's an endearment. In a way, yeah, because. It makes men endear to you. It's like, oh my God, I had to wear a condom with somebody or whatever, you know, it's like, oh my God, most girls don't want me to do that. Well, I don't, for us, it's not a problem because I, well, I can't get pregnant, obviously, but you know, yeah, it's definitely something that brings them closer. to me, because they can do that with me when they can't do that with other people. Possibly. Possibly. And, yeah. Which is more empowering? What is that? Vaginal cream pie or anal cream pie? Oh, anals, because it's more taboo. Okay. That's what I'm thinking. There's no wrong answer. How many people, you know. I'm asking you for you. I can't say that's, you know. Oh, yeah. Well, for me, anals, just, you know, where I want to be most of the time anyway, because that's just, for me, it, it just feels better it sounds like our friend jay she um has really discovered yes and she wrote this is now actually loving that yes the fact when um makes them both come faster oh yeah there's no doubt about it was a little tighter it's a little different feeling if you talk to guys you know it kind of feels the same but other guys say it feels a little bit different or maybe just the fact that's in in their head that it's not the pussy it's the ass which is more taboo. It makes you a little more naughty. And how many women, well, men, women. People don't give it up. Yeah, sure. Don't, don't, you don't. Oh, you know, not my ass, not my ass. And I was like that too for a little while. That's what I tell my boyfriend. No, not in your ass? Not my ass. See? He says you don't have a vagina. I said then don't get your dick out. Keep it. We're here having beers. Put your dick a fucking way. Oh, man. You know? Jesus Christ. Yeah, I think when you're an altar boy, you could just fucking be the altar boy. No. Sorry, I was wrong. You're wrong on so many levels here. But yeah, anal is usually the taboo thing. A lot of people don't want to give it up. It's something that they keep for themselves or they don't do anal at all because it doesn't feel good or whatever. Well, I think, okay, I'll put myself in a position of a single guy. Right. to fuck this guy's wife. Right. Which is hot. He's right there. Right. Okay. Two. Uh-huh. I'm going to, you know, cream pie her, which is. Oh, that's pretty. Yeah. That's pretty taboo. It's kind of taboo. That's kind of taboo. Now it's like, okay, I get to fuck her ass in front of her husband. I do more taboo. And then I get to cream pie her ass. I do more taboo. It's just like, you know. It's taboo on top of taboo on top of taboo. Sorry, that was me. I hit this. Oh, okay. Sorry. Okay. Yeah, so that's kind of very, very cool there. I guess it is a type of empowerment. So yeah, because I'm letting people do those things to me, but I'm allowing them to. Especially every time you let a guy fuck your ass, you're always like, okay, I don't usually put guys in my ass, but okay. And he says, you told me that the last three times. Okay, they're just like a little, there's a sign. Back there, it says enter here. I've seen all your videos and it's the same thing for all of them. I enjoy anal. I would have done anal today if I was just two inches taller. And I could have just like bent over. It was like perfect. His dick was like right there, but I was just two inches too short. Days on over, baby. Oh, there you go. Is that a thread or a promise? Oh, we got the fist ready for me. Oh, I'm going to get my two hours of anal fisting. Oh. Did we ever explain that? I'm pretty sure we did. Okay. If you make it short and just abbreviated just to recap. Should I just tell the story of that or with my daughter? Oh. That just sounded wrong. Now I got to explain. Now you got to explain the whole thing. I made a joke up once. My daughter was living with us when she was younger and we used to always kid around about sexual things. We'd be going to bed and like, okay, we're going to go make some animal noises. Just ignore that. Yeah. That's disgusting. Lo and behold, she moves out. She got old enough. She moved out. Got married to everything else. Her husband is a great guy. And in that time, I started joking around with Donna. You know, the whole reverse psychology thing of like, nope, don't be sucking my dick tonight. Whatever you do, I would hate if you sucked my dick tonight. Okay. So with that one time, I just made a joke like, you keep that shit up, Donna. I'm not giving you two hours of anal fisting tonight. There you go. So that was a joke. And I've said it countless times and obviously not been aware when I said it. He says it so much, that's the problem. So one day my daughter and son-in-law were here, and I'm making dinner and stuff like that, and again, it just slips out. Something went on with the conversation. I said, Donna, keep it up. You're not getting your two hours of anal fisting. All of a sudden, my daughter slams her fist on the table. She goes, that's where the fuck he got it. I'm like, what? And now my son-in-law, back up real quick. Son-in-law, very stoic, very quiet young man, a great guy. He has very little sense of humor. If he told a joke, you would not know it. Right, he's pretty dry. Yeah, he's super dry. Great guy, though. Love him to death. And anyway, I go, what? She goes, the other day, he says to me, keep that up. I'm not giving you two hours of anal fisting. I was like, where the fuck did you get that from? She goes, all he did was laugh and walked away. She goes, I should have guessed he got it from you. Yep, yep. And I said, oh, I guess I must have said that. So apparently he also says a lot of other things I say. So that's our running joke. I guess I'm not a good influence. Not in the least. Maybe that's why they want me to teach at Sunday school. That's probably one reason. But you're over there and he's got his fist and he's like kind of like mock spitting on him like oh two hours of anal fisting here we go. So anyway. So do you find that empowering and a turn on getting cream pie? Oh yeah. Yeah that's very hot. It's very hot. It's, um, there's the fantasy I have about the breeding and it is just a fantasy. It's like having, you know, guys coming you over and over and over again. I, I think in the fantasy realm, I find very erotic. The reality, I don't know. It seems like it'd be kind of messy and slippery and whatever. Well, I think sticky and messy. Well, there's the one girl, cream pie, Kathy. Yes. I saw she does like a lot of gangbang things with, We're just a cream pie gangbang. Yep, yep. And you would think when you get that full of semen that no one's getting traction and they're going to last forever. Yeah, that's what I would think. You know? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'll have to experiment. Wow. No shyness there. Well, I think I'm due for a decent threesome. Maybe a cream pie thing might be kind of fun. I haven't heard back from Our friend that we approached about that, we had a friend. Yeah, yeah. To reach out to him again. So. It could be interesting. So the fantasy of breeding, where do you stand with that? I find it very erotic in the fantasy form. Okay. Well, and to the part of acting out the fantasy, I find also very erotic. I just, like we said before, fantasies are always better than reality. I think it'd be really cool to be fucked I have them all come inside of me. I find that very erotic. Okay, so is it a fantasy or role-playing? It could be a little bit of both, sure. Okay. Sure. No wrong answer. No, no. There's definitely a little bit of role-playing there. I mean, you've done things with the stepson thing. Yeah, that's hard to get into that role. I don't find that very... Well, but theoretically, the stepson and breeding the stepmom. Oh, that's true. There could be that crossover. You even have the pregnancy belly. Oh, I do. The fake one. The fake one. Yeah. They're like, well, she's gained some weight. We'll just call her pregnancy. Yeah. Yeah, there are guys who approached me on certain platforms that that's what they really wanted to see. And I obliged them by getting that prosthetic. It was really silly because I picture me like, oh, no, look at me, I'm pregnant at 63. So that was kind of, I sent you that picture. I'm like, oh, look, look, it came in the mail today. My pregnancy value. And people found it very erotic. It's like very bizarre. But eroticism transcends so many different weird taboos, fetishes, whatever you want to call them, that this whole pregnancy and wife breeding is just one aspect of all these fetishes. So, I mean, they were gratified by it. They really enjoyed the video. They thought it was something very erotic. And, you know, the guys were writing, oh, yeah, my young sperm would impregnate you. And it's like, no, it wouldn't, dude, I'm in menopause. Let's go back to biology class. My hand could open the doorknob, but the factory's shut. Exactly. You could turn the knob all you fucking want. All you fucking want. All the workers have gone home. Pretty much. The equipment is gone. The equipment, well, the equipment's still there. The equipment's there, but it's just not being used. The power has been shut off. The power. Nothing is running. Oh, this kid insane. Oh, man, I'm 24. My sperm is so strong, blah. I'll knock you up. And that was his fantasy, though. And I was like, at first I did argue with him. I was like, dude, that's not going to happen here. Like, let's go. Biology 101, folks. Biology 101. Let's go back. Let's follow the science here. And he just wasn't getting it. So I just played into it. And he loved it when I made that video. He was like, yeah, I was on top of that. I was like, there you go. I just I'm just here to please, I guess. But it's always that psychological aspect that's always behind the veil of these fetishes. Well, in all honesty, again, it's a topic in itself, the whole fantasies. You know, that maybe we need to explore that as a next show. Sure. That, you know, vanilla life where you don't have fantasies, you don't have desires per se. You're just like, okay, we're going to do missionary. And that's all we're going to do. You know, we're going to do the typical, you know, Mennonite sex thing. No, I, I, but we, it just, we've been in the swinger lifestyle for so long. But even before swinging, um, we didn't do just missionary before I was, before you brought me into the fold as it were. I've talked about this a hundred years ago on the show. Um, like my grandparents only had sex. My grandfather apparently thought you only had sex to reproduce. That was it. have it for pleasure or anything else. He only had it to have my father. Wow. And once she got pregnant with my father, that was it. Sex stopped. I think. Maybe that's why he's a crotchety old fuck. Well, yeah, they're missing the whole boat. Yes, sex can definitely be for that. But we also found it for us and other couples, millions of couples that find that having intimacy, however you describe it, whether there's intercourse or not, It doesn't matter. Some type of intimacy strengthens. About the next show. Okay. Is about we're going to do fantasies. Oh, we can do fantasies. It's like how important fantasies are. Oh, absolutely. Let me write that down. Okay, you write that down and I'm just going to shut up about it because we'll leave that for the next show. Okay. Shutting up is a whole other story. Yeah, that ain't happening anytime soon, is it now? So we kicked the horse about breeding. Yeah. Okay. Fun. Again, I want to thank everyone for listening. Or whatever we were doing here, guys. If you're listening. Yeah, exactly. We're just background noise, that's fine. Again, I challenge, I haven't done this in a while, I challenge you all. Again, we don't ask you for a dime, and we won't. But we challenge you to find two friends you think might like the podcast. Probably friends that you like. Well. Maybe if you hate them, and this is a form of torture, that's fine, too. Friends that, one, listen to podcasts, two, are open. They don't have to be swingers. No. Just have an open mind. Just something to have fun. And again, we try to bring you the swinger lifestyle. We try to bring you fun with sex. We try to bring you a little bit of humor, maybe. Yeah. Crickets. Crickets on this side. If I show them pictures of you naked, they'll laugh. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And they're all over the internet, so have at it. Yeah. But anyway, so again, we can't thank you guys all enough. Men and Women and Everybody Else You Identify As. So I want to thank you for listening and until next show. Have a great night, everybody.