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HOT WIFE PODCAST · Donna Lynn

The Allure of Pre-Cum

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In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince delve into the intricacies of relationships and intimacy, focusing on the allure of pre-cum and the dynamics of bodily fluids during sexual encounters. They explore the eroticism associated with pre-cum, contrasting it with the experience of orgasm, and share personal anecdotes that highlight the nuances of pleasure and connection in their lifestyle. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the intricacies of intimacy, pleasure, and the dynamics of open relationships. They explore the importance of communication during intimate moments, the allure of swinging versus a vanilla lifestyle, and the challenges of navigating desires such as pegging. The discussion emphasizes the significance of openness and acceptance in relationships, highlighting how these elements contribute to a fulfilling sexual experience. Ultimately, the speakers reflect on their own relationship and the complexities of dating outside their lifestyle.TakeawaysThe podcast emphasizes adult themes and personal opinions.Pre-cum is viewed as a sign of arousal and intimacy.Bodily fluids can enhance erotic experiences for some individuals.The hosts share personal stories to illustrate their points.There is a distinction between the physical sensations of pre-cum and orgasm.The conversation highlights the importance of communication in sexual relationships.Listeners are encouraged to share their experiences and questions.The hosts find humor in their discussions about bodily fluids.The erotic nature of pre-cum is linked to the excitement of anticipation.The podcast fosters an open dialogue about sexuality and relationships. Women often experience intense pleasure that can be overwhelming.Communication about desires enhances intimacy and pleasure.The act of pegging requires comfort and consent from both partners.Swinging offers a buffet of sexual experiences compared to vanilla relationships.The possibility of exploration is vital in maintaining excitement in relationships.Open-mindedness is crucial for discussing and exploring fantasies.Navigating desires can be challenging in a non-swinging relationship.The speakers value the freedom to express their sexual preferences.Insecurity can hinder a partner's acceptance of an open relationship.The speakers acknowledge the complexities of dating outside their lifestyle.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support.Join our Supporters Club and listen to our shows Ad FREE!https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. Hello everybody, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Ride podcast. I'm here, of course, with my wonderful husband, Vince. Of course. Of course, absolutely, honey. Sure. I can't do this with anybody else. Your boyfriend was busy tonight, so. Yeah, he's been reaching out to me, one of my boyfriends anyway. Yeah, one of many. One of a couple. He's like, hey, how about, you know, I just come over socially. That's all you can do. That's all I can do right now. I'm not running on all cylinders here, but you know, I mean, I still have fun. I mean, that's the nice thing about being in the lifestyle that people don't get offended by. You don't have to play every time. Well, it's one way you can sort out who the assholes are. Oh, that's true. Oh, absolutely. And I actually had one guy, we've never played with him or even met him. And he reached out to me the other day and was like, oh, yeah, how's Donna doing? I said, good, good, you know. And I said, yeah, her arm's still, you know, her newly operated one is doing better, but her other arm is going to hell. Oh, so she can't play? No, asshole. It's like, really that's all you care about? Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. Yeah, well, here's the thing, and I don't want to, you know, get off on a bad tangent. I will. I'm not afraid. I know, you're not. But I mean, like, you don't realize how much you use your stupid arms for. I didn't think I would be down this long. I still haven't driven yet. I mean, this one. We'll call it since November 1. Yeah. You haven't driven since November 1. Nope, nope. You've driven me crazy, but you haven't driven a car. Oh yeah, well, that's to be expected. Yeah, you don't. You strive for it. I live for that, dear. I live for that. Yes, you do. The entire reason. And you excel. I know. Like, you wouldn't think that it would be such a big deal. that you could go on with your life. But it takes me like 20 minutes to get dressed like from a shower. It takes, I mean, it's a chore. Yeah. Because you don't realize it. I tell you, you don't have to get dressed, but. Oh, yeah. Fuck that. It's too fucking cold. Hey, if it was June or July, I'd be like, I'd be all about it. Okay. I'm going to hold you to it. Oh, I'm just getting too lazy to put clothes on now. It's just too much of a hassle. So come summertime. I've never seen you wearing so many loose fitting clothes. Oh, yeah. It's ridiculous. The tighter they are, the harder it is to put on. And it really puts a lot of stress on my stupid shoulders, both of them. So yay, happy day. Getting older is so much fun. Info at Hot Wife Podcast. Reach out to us. Again, we still hear from people in all time, which is great. We respond as best we can. We still hear from the one gentleman who is a cuckold, and he's happy to be a cuckold, and he keeps writing to us. His adventures. He thought he was not going to be able to, that the world was over, and all of a sudden, little did he know, boom, it opened up. Well, that's the cool thing. If you put a profile up on a Swinger website, and, you know, Swing Lifestyle is just one. We've been on for 20 years, so that's one we're comfortable with. We've been on other ones, too. But you put exactly what you want there, people will find you. Well, he's actually dealing with his ex-girlfriends, and he actually just mentioned he got another ex-girlfriend involved in this. Oh, wow. And he's giving oral sex to the ex-girlfriend, his friend or her old ex or whatever. I don't know. He's got it going in every direction, and he's loving life. God bless him, man. And he even says that he loves us talking about him on the show. himself. That's pretty hot. I didn't think that this was really the platform for any kind of masturbation fantasies. But hey, that's great. So I mean, that gets you off. That's fantastic. It is flattering. Aww. Because he's like, yeah, I jerk off to listen to the podcast. I'm like, hmm. Somebody else told us that too. We had an email from somebody once that told us that they, I don't know if they listened to particular ones, I would imagine it would have to be because usually it's pretty, I can't, you know. So if you want to write to us about your stuff or what you want or advice or show ideas, write to us at info at hot wife podcast and you can get into the topic. Okay. I thought it sounds really good. I would love that. I mean, and that brings us to tonight's topic. And since we're talking about masturbation and all this stuff, There's other stuff. It's like, what is the allure of pre-cum? Nothing to me. Nothing for you. Well, hey, wait a minute. Women have a type of, I'll put air quotes here, a type of pre-cum. I guess when a woman starts getting wet, that would be, we call that pre-cum. Sure. They generally are a lot further from coming than a man is when pre-cums are. It depends on the woman. It depends on a lot of things. Should be called pre-cum or pre-lube. Pre-lube, pre-whatever, pre-pre, that. Well, supposedly. Uh-huh. pre-cum actually can have things to get you pregnant in it. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's supposed to be pretty rare because the, the pre-cum, the reason I like pre-cum, I find it very erotic when I know a guy's really turned on and it's like oozing out the head of his dick. And we've been with, uh, I've been with playmates where it was like so sticky. It was like a, a long web, like where he's like, when I was playing with him or he was playing with himself or it was like, It was a long, stringy web of pre-cum. It was really erotic. The thing that I find very erotic, besides the fact that I know that my partner is incredibly turned on, because you can't fake that, right? You can't fake the pre-cum. Well, I'm... I don't think you can. Unless you know something, I don't. But to me, it's the taste. I'll take your word for it. I'm sure you will. It's very sweet. It's very sweet. And there's a reason for that. It's to feed the sperm as it goes through the tubing before it gets ejaculated. What's it for? It feeds the sperm on their journey from the pestis to the urethra and into the vagina. See, everything is based on sweet. It is. It is. So there's more glucose in it. It's slipperier so the sperm can, you know, maneuver easier. See, if I get my dick sucked more, maybe my diabetes would go. Oh. And all that glucose within my body. That's exactly what would happen here. It might be an unknown cure. It's probably in the journal somewhere. We just haven't found it yet. And you weren't looking. I didn't say that. I didn't say I wasn't looking. I just said, I don't know if it would be there. But for me, I find, see, I'm not, I don't have a problem with bodily fluids like some people do. Yeah. So I don't mind guys coming on my thing. Oh, okay. There was just, we had talked to someone the other day and they were like, well, this person hates bodily fluids. And I was like, well, that tells me she doesn't do that. Yeah, that was a family member of mine and I'll leave it go with that. So. Well, obviously your mom's dead. So is he a family member? Does he narrows it down to your sister? Thanks. Yeah, I know. You kind of spelled it out. That's blatantly obvious. Well, I am not that sister. Well, it's a family member. We mentioned my mom died 30 years ago. And, you know, my dad, he's dead, so that takes him out. I don't know anything about my brother. It could be a distant cousin. It could be. But, um, yes, she, uh, Otis said she does not like bodily fluids, but I'm not surprised. There are certain ones I can agree with. There are certain ones I can agree with. with as well. But having cum splattered all over my face is definitely one I enjoy. Tell me a place you don't want cum. In my breakfast cereal. Well, yeah, that could probably put a damper on things. Yeah, I probably wouldn't want it in my eye, but I'm not opposed to it being splattered all over my face. You know, I've never had it like burn my eyes or anything that I can remember. Me either. It's funny. I used to love, you know, rewatching the videos of, But the one plane made, his cum is like, you know, he shoots it like a rocket. He goes a lot of distance. Actually, that's the one that's been talking with me. So when he splattered it all over my face, that was really cool. You could see it like dripping off. That was fun. You've had a few guys, man. They just come in buckets like a KFC. Oh, I'm telling you, I look like a glazed donut. I couldn't be more proud. That was really awesome. One time you and Gina did a bukkake thing. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, you had a bunch. A bunch. Yeah, that wasn't as erotic because it's, it was, there's a lot more like choreographing with that sort of. I always, I felt like we were in the center. It was, was it a bukkake we did or was it a blow bang? A blow bang kind of. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I don't, I don't know the technical, you know, differences between them. So don't, you know. We were in the middle, and the guys kind of like jerked off onto us. Well, you were sucking them. You sucked off for them. We were fondling. We were trying to get them to do that. But when they came, usually they would jerk off that last little bit and get some real distance with it. Well, the trick was to coat your face, yeah. Yeah, coat her face. That was the goal, and it was achieved, and we did it. Took one for the team, did you? Yes, yes. We took the whole team, honey. We took the whole team. And then there's that. Yeah, that was kind of, that was a lot of fun. A lot of fun. You know, I mean, it was just seeing that, feeling that hot cum. Was that the day you weren't going to shoot? Yeah, that was the day I said, I'm not shooting, blah. No, I think that was actually. It was the next one. It was the next time because we went up there several times. But yeah, I was, I was certainly a lot of fun. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with feeling that hot, salty, mess, splatter your face. I mean, that's for me. I mean, to me. I know, dear, you're not into that. But getting back to the pre-cum, the pre-cum is like the precursor to the orgasm. You know he's really turned on. There's a lot of things. Yeah, you know they're in the game. They're in the game, boy. That's so erotic. That's like when I'm looking pussy. Exactly. And all of a sudden it gets all slippery. It gets super slippery. Yeah, it's just like, okay. That's like a woman's pre-cum. I find that very erotic. Very erotic. I think, well, first of all, like we said before, you know, he's into the game. He's right there. He's really enjoying himself. And, you know, bodies don't lie. So, you know, seeing that. Well, you've even noticed when guys are still dressed, everything like it, you start to undress them, they've already got a little wet spot from printout. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sometimes that does happen. Yeah, that's true. That is true. And you know, too, you know, You know what I really love to do? The tease myself is when he's oozing that pre-cum. I love taking his dick and rubbing it on my clit. I find that so exciting, so erotic, so... I'm sure he hates it. I'm sure he hates it, too. But it's a real turn-on for me. And because that pre-cum is so slippery, it's almost as slippery as spunk loop. Is that a segue? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it definitely, and if you don't have pre-com, like not all guys use pre-com, you know, there's some guys that do and there's some guys that don't. No? None of the guys I've been with. Many guys. God, stop it. So, I mean, you might use, you know, a little bit of pre, a little bit of spunk lube and you get the same sensation because that too is very, very slippery. Well, I think there's times, I can only speak for myself, but there's times when early on the, the pre-cum comes out, and then there's times where it takes a little bit of time. Sure. You know, there's times, like, the pre-cum comes out, like, just being aroused. Right. And then there's times, like, the pre-cum starts coming out a little bit before the cum comes out. Oh, okay. Yeah, it depends on, I know it depends on the guy, but there are guys I know that were oozing pre-cum for a good, I don't know, half hour, 45 minutes, or an hour. or before they actually came. So if you had your choice, cum or pre-cum, which one? Oh, God, I'd have to make a choice. No, just ask a question. Obviously, they both are available. I think cum just slightly over pre-cum. Go ahead. Why? Because there's the ejaculation and my partner reaching a really nice, strong organ. I find a little more erotic than that build-up. Well, pre-cum comes out without any feelings attached to it. Oh, sure. Absolutely. Whereas cum, you know, you can have verbal, you can have physical, you know, and everything else. Oh, those kind of feelings. I thought you meant like love-type feelings. No. I mean, like, you know, the electric, I don't know what else to call it, electric shocks or whatever you can call it, the convulsions that you, you know, that are pleasurable. There's more physical... Oh, just more your body goes through more... Yeah, okay, okay....with the orgasm than it does with pre-cum. Pre-cum, it just happens. It just happens. You know, you're caught up in everything else. Yeah. There's no, you know, no extra stimulation that your body goes through... Right....within its own versus, you know, when you have an orgasm, then it's just like, you know, you don't know whether to shit or spit sometimes. Oh, that's so nice. I do like those kind of orgasms. Yeah. The shit part's not so good. Okay. Well, that was shit with, you know, the air quotes. Yeah. But yeah, I like the orgasms where your eyes roll in the back of your head. Yeah. So to me, that's where I can see the orgasm is far more arousing. Because you can see your partner going through. Oh, yeah. All the. The Hill and the Roller Coaster now is going screaming straight down at 600 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah. You can see all the convulsions and the O-face that they make. Yeah. The pre-cum for a woman, that's how I can speak to it, is erotic because you, you know, like for me, you know, you see their pussy starting to swell. Yeah. Yeah. All those physical things. You know, and at that point, generally, that's when they start like grabbing your hair and, you know. Right. Right. Or my hair or whatever. Right. Exactly. Yeah. have much hair left. I don't know. That's probably it. Maybe. Um, but you know, which is erotic in itself. Oh yeah. Oh my God. But you know, um, and I guess that's the, the one thing being a man, um, and, uh, like pleasuring a woman is, you know, like you could suck a guy and occasionally you make it a guy who can go twice. Once in a great while. Yeah. A few, they're few and far between, but you know, women. Oh my God. You know, I mean, just keep going and going. And just, you know, when I get to spend time with a woman and do it multiple times with her, and, you know, she's like, I haven't come that much. And they can't walk. To me, that's just like, fuck you. I have been there. I have been a week in the knees. Yeah, I have definitely been there. I come so hard, I actually feel like, I want to say... You could shit or spit? Well, that's one expression. It's almost painful having that many orgasms. Yeah, I guess. It's almost painful, you know, because your body, like, when I have an orgasm, my whole body, you know, clenches, you know, becomes very rigid. It gets spasms. And that's what I'm saying is when your partner's having orgasms, you see... Oh, you see that... Versus pre-cum, it may be erotic because you know... You know what's coming. They're on the path. Yes. Yeah, exactly. But when they have the orgasm and you get to give them. Oh my God. And you know, that is all really due to what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's, it's really cool. It's really cool. You know, it, and, you know, seeing them go through like how their orgasms are, you know, some guys are really loud. Some guys are a little more quiet. You know, again, I've, when we were shooting, And even watching you play with other guys in general, it's amazing. Some of these guys don't even want to sit there and say, I'm going to come. They just like. Okay. It's like. Tell me. Let me know. Give me a heads up. Give me a heads up. How about giving me something to enjoy? Yeah. You know, I mean, you giving you something. I know exactly. I know exactly. For those who are listening. Vince is very clear about that. Well, here's the thing. It's like, I'm. We both are pretty good at reading our partner's body language, but having a guy, you know, tell me he is going to come is so much more erotic than if he doesn't. I love the fact, oh, I'm going to come right now, and then, you know, there it is, and I get a big load on my face or in my mouth or my pussy or my butthole, wherever, you know, wherever that is. So many guys are there. Exactly. That's true, too. But, I mean, that's... Give me a heads up. I think that helps. That kind of communication, I think. It can only benefit them. Oh, yeah. Because now all of a sudden you know that it's like, okay, hey, I'm going to speed it up or I'm going to slow it down or I'm going to put another finger in his ass or whatever it is you might be doing. I've never done that. I've licked ass. I didn't stick a finger up. I have fingernails now. Oh, boy. Look at those. Okay. And your shoulders hurt, so you really can't do it. I really can't, yeah. So, yeah, I can't do that. Now, I would never. I don't want to stick my finger in anybody's butt. My tongue is fine. Oh, Jesus, God. His butt's clean. Come on. You kiss your husband with that mouth? I slip him the tongue, too. Oh, my God. Oh, come on. When I tell you an alcoholic drink, it's rubbing alcohol. Yeah, I would not feel comfortable doing that. That's the only thing I feel really uncomfortable doing. You got plenty of guys who don't mind putting their finger in your ass. My butt's used to it. Your fingers are small. I know. Now, we're not talking about my ass. Right. We're talking about these other people. Yeah. Yes, yeah, I don't know. I'd have to make sure that I know that, number one, this is something they want. I don't want to be like, If you just got done rimming a guy, I don't really think a finger in his ass is going to cry. These guys who ask you to peg them, I don't really think your little fingers are going to offend them. That's another thing I'm just not comfortable with yet, yet, if ever. I don't know. There's been a couple guys who are like, oh, you can practice with me. You can practice with me. I'm like, oh, my God. I don't know. I'm just afraid. I'm just not comfortable with that. At least I can be honest, right? I don't find it offensive. I just find it like I just don't think I'd be very skilled at it. Oh, it's not you're offended. It's your more... Skill. My skill level isn't there. You're more afraid of hurting somebody. Yeah, I'm afraid of hurting somebody. Think about that one. Like, oh, I had to go to the hospital every weekend. Why? Well, I was getting pegged and she ruptured my colon. What? Yeah. And the freaking dildo is so big. I can't come into work on Monday, boss. My cone was rushed. Oh, my God. Were you? No, I was getting pegged. I was getting pegged. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's. I told her only use the 8-inch one, not the 12-inch. Oh, yeah, I don't. Okay. Moving on. Moving on. So, yeah, I mean. It's different. Those who enjoy it, God bless you. You know, maybe, maybe I just need to be with somebody who's really comfortable with being pegged, and they can walk me through it. No one in this room. No, I know, but that's what I would need, because I just would not feel. You've had guys that pegged you. And they moved away to Florida or wherever the fuck they went. Wherever, yeah. They talk a good game. Yeah, and I even got that really fancy schmancy strapless strap on they told me to get, and I was like, yeah, it'd be fun. Yeah, it was funny how you just disappeared. Disappeared. I was like, oh, come on. how to do it. I'm used to it. I love it. Blah. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Maybe I can. He just disappeared. And he didn't say bye. Sometimes that just happens. Sure. You know, I mean, he might be in a different place in his life. Well, he got in relationships. Yeah, that could be. It happened overnight. Oof. And she wasn't in swinging, apparently, according to him. Hmm. So maybe he became part of the vanilla world? I don't know. That's fine. That happens. Yeah, that does happen. Nothing wrong with that. No, no, I would find. I can imagine it's only, It's kind of tough when you're used to one direction. That's what I was... I think it's easier going from straight to swinging than just from swinging to vanilla. To vanilla. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like... You know, when all of a sudden you're like, I can play with anybody and everybody and do all sorts of weird shit. No one cares. No one cares. So all of a sudden it's like, I can only have grilled cheese. Not because there's anything wrong. I can't go to the buffet. You can't go to the buffet. Grilled cheese. Grilled cheese. Yeah, I'm... If I had to find another mate, they'd have to be a swinger. They wouldn't have to be like, you know, crazy going to like, you know, parties and clubs every weekend or whatever. But they'd have to be open to that lifestyle for sure. Because, you know, sometimes you want to get your freak on and the door's always open. The door's always open. Yeah. You know, it's like, hey, you know. Or doors. Multiple doors. It's tough. Like I said, we know a few people that have gave up their lifestyle, go back to Vanilla, and then somehow they always work their way. Like the marriage falls apart or whatever. Right, right. They're all of a sudden, they're back. They're back on the dark side of town. Yeah. When you get to go to the buffet and sample a lot of different food, man. I'm all about it. And then you can go home and talk, you know, you and your mate can go home and say, wow, you know, the salad bar was great, and they all said sushi, and they, I had fried chicken and they had, you know. Sausage. Steak. Clams. Clams. Like it's sexual. They had clams. Clams. Oh, they had big overcooked sausage. Overcooked sausage. Blackened sausage. Yummy. Mmm. I guess. But, yeah, I don't think I could go the other way. I just don't. I would just be. It'd be tough. I couldn't do it I don't think I could do it yeah no no no even if here's the thing it's not it's not the act of playing that I find so um intriguing and and that I want to embrace it it's the fact that you can do it and the opportunity is there I don't want to I don't want to close that door necessarily okay you know what I'm saying I want that opportunity to always be there and if you're in a vanilla a relationship, well, it may not be there. If you're with somebody who's swinging, you may not participate in a lifestyle for whatever reason. But the possibility is always there. And I'd like the possibilities. So let's pretend you met Mr. Right. Like I haven't met Mr. Right yet. We met right now. Right, right now. Yeah, Mr. Right now. But he says, I can't share you with anyone. Then I can't now. That would end it. No matter how great he was. Well, here's the thing. He's got to be insecure then. If he says, I can't share you, I love you too much. It means he's insecure. And he needs to grow up or he needs to come to terms with his own feelings and work through that because there's definitely some insecurity there. If he's too jealous, he's insecure. And when we got together, you were really insecure about it. I was more insecure. Yes, I was, which is really strange. But yep, yep. Would you date him to see if you could convert him? Sure. If everything else is falling in line, sure. But for the long term, it's like, I don't know. I mean, it's not, it's really not about the sex. It's really not. It's the fact that those, the people that are in the lifestyle are so much more open to other things and they're more accepting of other sexual preferences. Like if I, you know, I mean, we always go back to me wanting to dabble in BDSM and you not. and I like being flogged and I like being restrained and I like, you know, I like being blindfolded and I like being taken advantage of in those, those ways. You let me experience that. I don't know, but a normal, I don't want to say normal. That's not the word I wanted to use. Stereotypical. Well, or somebody in the, in the vanilla world would be accepting of that. Stereotypical world. Yeah. Like, I don't, I don't know. And that, those are aspects of my life. I just can't say one day, well, I'm never going to do that again. I can't say that. Those are really exciting times for me. I would like to experience them again. Sure. And I would like the ability to be with a partner that is going to let me be me and experience those things on my own terms. Sure. As the same thing with you. I would like for you or another partner to be able to experience things that they would want to experience, even if I'm not a part of it. Let's say I was with a guy. God forbid, it won't be you, who wants to be pegged. Maybe I'm not into that. Maybe, or maybe he likes to do things that I'm just like, I'm not really comfortable with. Sure. Yeah. Maybe he's more into water sports than I would want. See that I'm, I may not be into it, but I can at least respect people that. Well, we've talked about that too. We've talked about that's one of the benefits of being in the lifestyle is. Yeah. You have the whole smorgasbord. The whole buffet open to you. Right. It's like, hey, today I want to try this. Yeah. Tomorrow I'm going to try that. And you can. Yeah. As long as it's within the confines and like we talked about before, the couple's guidelines. Guidelines. Yep. So it's, I don't think I could ever date someone who was not in the lifestyle. I'd have to either, if he doesn't want to convert, then it would definitely be over because I would feel, I would feel very. And we're talking, there's a lot of listeners. I know we have. A few of them have reached out to us that are single men or married men, but their significant other isn't. So all this to do is aggravate. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I didn't mean to. Yeah, but I would be very frustrated. I would, you know, it might cause enough of a riff in a relationship to end the relationship. I don't know. I mean, it's... I get it. Like I said, it's not really the sex. It's just the possibility that I can be who I am. Like, I don't have to... necessary, fulfill everything that I think is erotic and fun and all that. I don't have to fulfill all of it. Sometimes the fantasy, like we've said before, is all I need. But I want a partner that's going to be comfortable with me talking about my fantasies, living them, fantasizing about my fantasies, and not feel intimidated by them. And you're not. You've always, you know, been very, very, what's the word I'm looking for? Supportive in that aspect. You know? Very open-minded. Yep, very open-minded, very supportive. And we can talk about our deepest desires that might be considered taboo or be seen in a negative light in the vanilla world. Yeah. I mean, this depends on where you are with your relationship. So we really did get off topic this time, didn't we? Kind of meandered off. Yeah, kind of. It's all right. It's our show. We can do what you fucking want. I know. When you asked me if I could date someone who wasn't, in the lifestyle. I'm like, ah, ooh, no. No. Technically two topics in one show. Two topics in one show. How do you like that? There you go. What a deal. We just gave all the listeners. I know. They paid for one topic. And we gave two. And they gave two. Two. I know. Pretty amazing. Just giving. So wait a minute. You never answered. If you could be in a relationship with somebody who's not. No, I couldn't. Oh, there you go. Okay. I was waiting. I wasn't sure. I've already told you if something If something happens that we're not a couple anymore, I'm done. I'm just... Oh, come on. I'm just going to wander off into the woods, find a cabin and dip. Stop it. That sounds terrible. No, I'm starting to hate people. Oh, honey. You hated people long before now. I don't have the time and the effort to train a new woman. Like you can train me. I have. You think so? I tell myself that. Yeah. I mean, that would be very nice. I'd feel very pleased if you were able to train a new woman. me. I think I'm a little bit untrainable. I'm a little, you know, wander off the path a little bit here and there. You know. It's a little path, so. Yeah, well, that's true, so. Yeah. All right. I pity the next people that, if we weren't, if we weren't a couple, the next people we would be with, I really do feel sorry for them. We have to stay together just so we're not hurting other people. Yeah, we don't want to give each other to somebody else. Yeah, that'd be terrible. That would just be awful. I hate you so much. I hope you wind up with Donna. Fuck you, man. Dude, you hate me that much? Why don't you shoot me in the head? That would hurt less. Anyway. All right, man. Hope you enjoyed the show. Hope you enjoyed the topics. Again, two for one. Hey, man, stay warm. Have a great night, everybody.

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