Swinging into Isolation: The Friendship Follies of Lifestyle Living

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. Hello everybody, this is Donna Lynn and welcome to my Hot Wipe podcast. Of course, behind the scenes is Vince. He's really pulling all the strings here. No strings. No strings attached. Just wires. Yeah, I'm just looking out of the wires. Our studio is nothing but a spaghetti mess right now. At the moment. At the moment. So yes, you're the one with all the wires. Happy New Year. Same to you. Yeah, I hope this one's going to be a good one. Again, this is technically the first show we have recorded this year. In their actual new year. This is technically, really. Our first show? First show of the fifth season. Technically, yes. Yeah. Wow. So, be that as it may. I still can't believe you're with me five years. Yeah, I know. Not just a podcast going on for five years. I know. You keep me drugged and happy, and that's it. Well, drugged. It's not really drugged. It's alcohol. It's alcohol. And you tend to keep refilling your own glass. I know. I just blame it on you. You can't blame me. No, no. There's nothing going on here with that. I'm not a captive, truly. Sometimes you fill my glass for me, but generally I don't fill yours because you have a concoction you put together. I don't even know what I'm drinking half the time. We hope everyone had a good holiday season, and hopefully we all, everybody, has a good, prosperous, and healthy New Year. That's all we can ask for. Yeah, let's hope. Right off the bat, we'll check out, if you want to see who and what Donna's doing. Check out hotwife donnalyn.com. I'm uploading lots of teasers and videos and all those kind of things to my various platforms. So that was always fun. Also check out the website 50shadesofpleasure.com. It's free. Not selling anything there. It's just a blog site with articles and blog posts about stuff. Also, check out on our site. You'll find a banner for swinglifestyle.com. So if you're not a member of a site, that's one we strongly support. And if you're following us through that website, hey, thank you. And again, we want to thank the owners of the website. They've given us a profile just for the podcast. I was trying to think, what did we do again? Yeah, exactly. And also there's a banner there for another website. It's new onto the scene It's more Global? International? No, international I think is just International is the whole world No, I thought that would be worldwide Okay, whatever Okay, anyway, it's worldwide Okay, yeah, worldwide Based out of Denmark, great site There's a 30-day code on there You get free 30 days That is called Secretswingerlust.com Yeah, that's a hard one for me, sorry Yeah, check them out You'll find banners for both of those, as well as to see Donna's stuff. So anyway, with that said, the first topic of the new year is? Has swinging ever cost you a friendship? You know? So let's start with you, Vince. Has swinging cost you any friendships? I think it might have. I think, like the one guy I used to work with, I can say his name, John. You think that was kind of a turn off for them or kind of poison your relationship? Yeah, and again, we're not talking about like we've ever approached somebody about it. Right, right. But just the cardinal knowledge that you are. Right. I think like the guy I had a cigar with today, you know, he knows. Oh, God. He's envious. Yeah. And I actually told him how Denmark, where secret swing lust is out of, how he says it's a very heavily swinger place. He goes, oh, I think we need to move there. I figured he'd be saying that. But the problem is his wife, you know, I think if his wife found out. Yeah, that would cost him their relationship. Yeah, he would not be allowed to probably come talk to me. Probably not. You know, so, you know. Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa. Doesn't she know? I'm not sure. Didn't we, like, remember we were, like, all trying to get together and create content? Not with her. No, not with her. I thought there was something that was like that. No. Okay. No, I did a photo shoot, a couple photo shoots of her. Okay, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. There was nothing that was content related. There was no release sign. They were actually pictures for him. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking then. That's fine. You know. Yeah, I thought she knew for some reason. She may. He may have told her. I don't know. I don't ask. You know, with the whole swinging thing, I'm not one to wear it on my sleeve. You know what I'm saying? I don't walk around with upside-down pineapple shirts and earrings. No matter what the tattoo on your forehead looks like. Exactly. Well, I did have that one, that hot wife necklace that I was wearing, and my hygienist, my dental hygienist says, oh, that's a pretty necklace. I've told this story a thousand times before, so pardon me if you've heard it before. And she was like, wow, what does that say? And I had to be very careful how I say it. Said it, hot wife. My husband thinks I'm hot. You know, whatever. He gave me this necklace. Which is a great. Which is a blatant lie, but whatever. But yeah, that's the only thing. I'm so glad that you didn't get me the other one you're talking about. Oh, the German name. Yeah, Kumsloot. This is my maiden name, I swear to you. I swear, yeah. So that could have been a little bit dicey, but yeah. So I don't wear that stuff on my sleeve. I don't talk to people about it. I don't have, you know, I just don't. I don't. And the one girl I used to dance with, who knows. Easy for you to say. What's that? Yeah, easy for me to say now. She knows we're swingers and we produce content. And she just stays away from that whole thing. From what she has told us, she stays away from sex entirely. She said 10 years. She hasn't had sex in 10 years. So it's like, you know. That's why she's a cranky, crabby bitch. That could be. She cuts loose. Watch out. It could be dangerous. But the thing that I don't understand is like years before, we were dancers together. We did live girl-girl shows. So in all the sense. Was she really into it though? I don't think it bothered her I don't think she's you know truly bi I think it was just you know it was we were friends and it was you know fun to do and it was nothing serious I didn't take any of it serious but yeah you think she should be more open to the whole thing because we used to do these live for all intents and purposes it was a sex show you know we use dildos and we use them on each other we you know what I'm saying so for her to be like, oh, you do that? It's like, really? Do you remember what we used to do? Shall I bring out the pictures? You know? So I thought that was kind of odd that she had this like, ugh, you know. She's gotten crotchety, not in a good way. Yeah, yeah. Well, she's like, oh, my boyfriend won't let me. And it's like, ugh. Well, let's pretend your boyfriend would let you. Would you do it? I didn't ask her that. No. Well, she's, you know. I think she's become very uppity. Yeah, very. become uppity. No, no. She is not... Not the uppity type of person. Her successes in life do not allow her to be uppity because she has no successes in life. Well, that's kind of a harsh thing to say, but yeah. I'm lying. Yeah, but you have to, you know, I just can't deny that I didn't do that. I just can't say, well, I never did that. She's a good-hearted person. She's a good-hearted person. But let's put it this way. You hit the switch, the light doesn't go on. No, sometimes it just... There's faulty circuiting in there somewhere. Someone came in and stole all the wiring in her house. She just doesn't understand it. Right. But as far as losing somebody because of my chosen lifestyle, no, only because I don't blab it out there. Yeah. But I can see where people have. Nobody needs to know. I see where people may have. I mean, automatically, if you tell someone you're a swinger and they're not or not even interested, And it's like, well, yeah, part of our life is, yeah, we're open. Right, right. Oh, my God. It's like, you know, that one couple we went out to dinner with one time, weren't hitting on there, not in their lifestyle, wasn't interested. That was just a friendly thing. Right. And somehow. They took it the wrong way. They emailed me back the next day. It's like, I just want to let you know, we're not interested. We're not interested. It's like, it's okay, good. I wasn't asking you. If you think us sitting there having laughs and having dinner someplace, is us hitting on you? Yeah. There was zero sexual talk. There was zero. Yeah, zero. So yeah, I'm more careful now who I divulge those things to. It relates to nowadays political parties. It's like you don't want to tell people what your political belief is because you may lose friends. Yeah, and the same thing with swinging. It's the same exact thing, unfortunately. Same premise, yeah. I just don't talk about it with people that may not be interested in, just from conversations that you have. If I had met a friend and we were talking about things and they had mentioned like, oh, it might be kind of fun to be with my husband and another man or another woman, and they say that, I might then share. But if it never comes up in conversation, no way. I just leave it there. And we've used the terminology before about our dark secrets. Right. You go to work. Exactly. Anybody's in the lifestyle. Hey, what'd you do this weekend? You can't sit there and go, well, we went to a swinger club or went to a house party. Yeah, exactly. I got to have sex with two different beautiful women. My wife was kind of spit-roasted by a couple of guys. Oh, yeah, you can't tell them that. And their heads might explode, and yeah, it just wouldn't be pretty. So yeah, basically, I have not really lost any friends, only because I just keep it very guarded. Yeah, I think the topic isn't necessarily about us. Right. But it's about it just in general. In general. For people to think about. Yeah. You know, especially if you're fairly new to the lifestyle, you don't necessarily want to go out. It's a shame. I'm not saying you should go out and pound your chest about it, like, hey! But, you know, just having a casual conversation is like, hey, you know what? My wife and I, we just, we started swinging. And people are going to what? Say what? No, we've kind of enjoyed it. And of course, generally, I would assume your friend's wife are like, okay, Fred, we have to go. Quite possibly. You never know. You're not going to get out in the car. You're not allowed to talk to them anymore. Oh, that could get ugly. Well, I think a lot of people think. Yeah, it would be like that. That's for sure. I think there is a misunderstanding that because someone's a swinger, they think that all you are is on the prowl. Right. Or you just want to fuck everybody and anybody. And that's not how it goes. Yeah, we talked about that with the myths of swinging that that was one of the myths of, oh, yeah, you want to fuck all the time. You'll fuck anybody. No, that's not true at all. Not even a little bit. Nope. Not even a little bit. We're pretty choosy. And it's not every weekend. It's not every month even. Everyone's different. Everyone's swing habits are their own. Everyone's schedule is different. So do you have unlimited free time? Then do it. Whatever. We just don't, unfortunately. It's just not the way things work out. In our world, I'm sorry to say, but whatever. We've still got plenty of other things we have to do. We have to prioritize. Swinging is a fun thing to do. It is the spice. It is not the whole meal. Maybe that's why people in the lifestyle have these little hidden, well, maybe not so hidden now, signs that they're part of the lifestyle. I mean, I'm talking about like the upside down pineapple, that kind of thing. Sure. Scrungies. Scrungies, yeah. We talked about that before. Pink scrungies meant one thing. Blue scrungies meant another in a particular environment. I go into Walmart and the kitchen section, and I'm That'll be the bath section. That's probably why you're confused. See, that's why I'm confused. That's where those little soapy loofah thingies are. Mesh balls. Mesh balls, yeah. So people have their own little way of telling other people that this is their desires, this is what they're into, without telling the whole world. Because, yeah, you definitely open yourself up for some negativity. Like, I would never tell my family, obviously, you know, not my... Yeah, that's not really proper to, you know, Thanksgiving dinner. And by the way, Vince and I... Oh, Vince got a new car, and we started swinging. Funny thing happened to me. I was getting the bottom knocked out on me by this guy, and Vince was taking video. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, that's great Thanksgiving dinner. Vince doesn't listen. Conversation. He had this strange woman's legs up against his ears. He's licking away at her pussy and I'm trying to talk to him. It's so, it was just so rude. You know, then he got mad when I tried to talk to him when I had this guy's cock in my mouth. And he couldn't understand what I was saying. It was just awful. We fight about this shit all the time. It's like, if you're going to talk to me, make sure that, you know, you're going to be fucking someone, but don't be eating their pussy when you try to talk to me. You know? There's proper decorum here. Conversation etiquette during sex. Oh my goodness. Yeah. That's something you don't want to have over Thanksgiving dinner. That's for sure. Yeah. Now you tell me. I know. What a surprise. Yeah. But, um, yeah, it'd be interesting hearing anybody, uh, info at hot wife podcast.com. Reach out to us. I just know, I'd love to hear if you've lost, uh, any friends, family even, you know, that won't talk to you. Now they know you're a swinger, you know? Uh, yeah. Like you're a pervert or something. It's like, Hmm. Yeah. I think we all have. level perversion in us, whether it's out and known or not. Like, your father, when he was alive, I would never have pictured him to be subscribing to the websites he had subscribed to. Yeah, and then he had to call me up and tell, because he wanted to unsubscribe to them, and I'm like, Dad, these are all porn sites. Yeah, some of them are a little disturbing. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Whatever. Especially as stoic and stuff as he was, I was like, really? Really? That's what I was saying. Yeah, it's like, all right. Oh, well, I guess he's only after mom died, so. Yeah, well. Again, if, I mean, what he was doing was legal. Oh, yeah, exactly. He wasn't on any site that he technically should not have been on. No, there was a couple sites. There's just ones I sat there like, really? Well, there was one that was like something grannies, and I was, the thing is. Wasn't it trans grannies? No, no. That was the old, my old boyfriend. He wanted trans fat people. No, they weren't necessarily fat, but definitely trans. Chicks with dicks is definitely the video we found. Absolutely. It wasn't fat chicks. It was just chicks with dicks. There might have been a couple in there that were of plus size. There was a plus size video. I just remember the one because I know I found it. I found it under the bed. The thing is, because he made fun of me for being fat. Right. It was like, really? That one stuck out. I was like, wait a minute. You made fun of me for being fat, but you're putting off to fat women. Not that they're not attractive. I'm just simply saying. No, these were trans, have you said? Yeah. What I'm just saying is you're going to critique me for being heavy, but yet you're jerking off to it. That's a little scary. That's a lot scary. But if that's your thing, God bless you. But don't sit there and critique, you know? Yeah, exactly. So do you think that people, if someone, if you lose a friend over, is it A, they're disgusted? Is it B, that one of the members of, say, of your friends, the wife or whatever, is someone jealous? Intrigued or jealous? More jealous, like they're a very jealous person? Well, then, yeah, they're going to be a jealous person no matter what. who I knew was jealous. It could be a religious thing. Oh, yeah. It could be a whole lot of things. Just something that they're grossed out by. Yeah. Well, first of all, if they're a friend, I'm going to know kind of like where their feelings are. Well, my friend, his wife has been brought up in a very staunch Catholic background. Right. So she feels you wait till you're married to have sex and you stay, because he's the only one she's ever been with. Oh, my. And you marry for life until the divorce has passed. But, you know, and I think, you know, she did apparently have a, they were at a friend's house and got drunk, and she messed around with the woman. Right. And had a great time, but then, like, the next day, it was like, oh, don't ever expect that again. It's like, you had fun. What the fuck? I think that scared her. I think something like that might have scared her, that she enjoyed it. Or she thought she was going to hell. Oh, because she had fun. That could be too. I didn't ask how much fun did she have. Did you videotape it? Is it out there for sale? Would she consider redoing it? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think I would never divulge this intimate part of my life with anybody that I wasn't absolutely sure was. Not on board. Yeah. You know, no way. There almost needs to be like a secret word. A secret handshake. Yeah, that you can identify a swinger. You know, not just like pineapple. Just something. So yeah. How do you feel about pineapple? And the correct answer would be? Is it upside down or upside right? Well, maybe the correct answer is I prefer mine in an upside down. Pineapple Kick? I guess. I don't know. I'm sure there's some secret. My vest has no sleeves. Some kind of covert word. My sneakers are on the mantle. Yeah, something like that. I don't know. I don't know. That's why they have the website. You don't have to dance around this whole thing. You just go to a Swinger website, and then everybody on there obviously is on board. We've dealt with a lot of people. We've talked about trying to get them on the show. And they're like, oh, I don't want to be outed. Outed. I'm sorry, there's no, like, this isn't to say on witch trials. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, they're swingers. Bring them over here. We're going to burn them with the stink. You're being fired from your job. Your children are being taken away from you. It's not that. I'm not playing with children. Exactly. So I don't know. I just feel like there's still a lot of uptight people out there. And I just don't want to, subject myself to that kind of BS. So I just don't. I just don't talk about it. We just don't have friends. Oh, that's true too. Then you don't have to worry about losing them if you don't have them. We don't have them. Yeah. Makes perfect sense to me. I know. And the friends we do have. Tend to be swingers. They tend to be swingers. Yeah. Some are like, you know, Mickey, you know, she's now an ex-swinger. Who knows what's going on with that? Well, this week. Yeah, exactly. You know. I mean, she knows and she's dabbled and enjoyed the time she had swinging. Now I guess she's taking another step back. Well, she's trying to get some family issues straightened out. She's gone through a lot with that. Yeah, exactly. So sometimes you have to take a step back and put the swinging, you know. Yeah, and put the corset on the hanger. Yeah, put the corset on the hanger for however you. Take the batteries out of the vibrator. Something like that, sure. Seal up the KY jelly. Put the analese in the bathroom. Back of your bureau drawer. Put the whips in chains. No. They stay out. Oh, they stay out? Okay. You know, got to keep them working. Oh, you know. But yeah, I mean, sometimes you just have to just take a step back. And you don't know. You don't know people's reaction to it. So I just, just for the sake of not being subject to that kind of BS again, I just don't tell people. Unless I know that they're swingers too. With all the... going on right now with sexualities, essentially. You know, gay people have the gay pride flag that they have flags and shirts and all this stuff. Oh, yeah, for sure. And the cross-dressers or trans, whatever, however you want to label that genre, so to speak. I don't know if I'm using the right term. You know, it's obvious. Right. You know, if Fred comes in dressed in women's clothes today, it's like, okay, I know what Fred's into. All right, well, good for Fred. You know, but, you know, And all of a sudden you come in and go, yeah, my wife and I went to a swingers party. Oh, my God, no. It's like. Yeah, it's okay to be gay, but don't be a swinger. It's like, what? And we're not saying being gay is bad. No, no, but it seems to be more accepted. Yeah, and that's fine. And that's great because for a lot of years they've been. Oh, in the closet. I do. I feel like. Not even that. They have been persecuted, so to speak. Sure. And that's why they stayed in the closet. Sure. And I feel like that's what I do. I just kind of stay in the closet. That's fine. We're alone in the closet right now, the swingers are. Yeah, pretty much. Of course, we're all having fun together. Yeah, so it's not. Hey, since we're all in here together and we're all swingers, hmm. That makes sense. Yeah, there's no reason for me to divulge that kind of intimacy to the general, you know, my general, you know, vanilla friends. When most of my friends are swingers, so I just, you know, we reach out to them. Yeah. Because then I know I can talk to them. They're not going to be, you know, shocked. I'm shocked by anything, really. Hey, Mark, want to come over for dinner and fuck me? Yeah, that's pretty much, that is the conversation. Kind of. I haven't seen it all. He's like, well, I can skip dinner. Not really hungry. How about we just go to dessert? I'm a diabetic. We don't tend to have dessert here. Oh, okay. Well, I don't think Mark is going to be into you anyway, dear. What? Exactly. Oh, are you shocked? Are you saddened by that? I thought he was just playing hard to get. Maybe. Whatever you guys want to do, I don't care. It's been cold enough. I really thought he was going to be coming over. He told me when hell freezes over. Well, it is pretty cold out there. I don't know if it's hell out there, but it is frozen over pretty good. You're out there long enough. It's cold as hell. It's cold as hell. Hell is actually hot, don't you think? I know. It's hot as hell. It doesn't sound as good. Cold as hell sounds better. Cold as hell, yeah. How to sell. Whatever. It all sucks. All right. Well, so it was just a talking point to see, you know, we've had a couple little experiences that we lost. Acquaintances. Acquaintances. Yeah, we call them friends. I always say acquaintances. Yeah, they were acquaintances. And we were a little too. Comfortable with them. Yeah, I guess. And we weren't hitting on them. No, we were just like, hey, you know, FYI, we're swingers. And they just got like, oh, We're not into that. That's good. Good for you. I don't like peas either. I don't know how they misconstrued that we were hitting on them. It's like, no, we're not hitting. You don't like lima beans? You sick fuck. You sick fuck. Yeah, I know. So I don't know where that came from. I guess they just assumed. Yeah, I didn't see an ongoing friendship. No, but dinner and some drinks and that was it. That was it. We were talking about, he was a mechanic. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I had a conversation when I was picking up my vehicle and said how we enjoyed going to this one drinking club we used to belong to. Right, right. Technically we still do. And he goes, oh, I always wanted to go there. It's like, hey, why don't you and your wife come join us for dinner? That's all it was. Right, right. It wasn't like a bound chicka bound. No, it wasn't, not at all. No, and, but, whatever. But again, you might have people that, you know, their best friend knows they're a swinger and it's like, does your best friend tell his wife or girlfriend or both? You know. Right. If they do, would that make them tell your friend that can't be your friend anymore? It's possible. Oh, I'm sure it happens. I'm sure it happens too, that's for sure. So that's why I'm very careful with who we tell people, you know. And it just makes it easier that most of our friends. Well, we have the FBI background check run on them. Of course. Before I can divulge something to you, you were accused of stealing extra crayons in second grade. Can you justify that? Yeah, that's exactly what we do. Now, most of our friends we find on, you know, Swing Lifestyle and on the site. And since they're already in the same mindset, it just takes the guessing game out of it. Yeah. You know? No, I agree. And we've found couples on there that were fun. But again, that even has, and we've talked about this too. What's that? Again, when you go out with another couple, if one or the other doesn't care for one or the other, then that voids that potential friendship. And if you go out with a swinger couple, it doesn't mean you're going out to swing. You're just going out to have dinner. To have dinner. So if you're going out with another couple and you're not necessarily attracted, don't be assholes. Yeah. Don't be assholes, that's for sure. Yeah. You know, just because you're on a swinger website and you have an account there and you have a profile doesn't mean that you're going to fuck everybody that comes down the pike or anybody you go out with. It's still a social, thing. But at least with the website, it cuts through a lot of the red tape of trying to dance around finding out if they're approachable with your alternative lifestyle. It does help. It does help. All right. And with that, again, I want to wish everyone a Happy New Year and thanks for listening. And if you're a new listener, thank you for hopefully we keep you listening. If you're a long-time listener, I want to thank you even more. We, again, started this as just a therapy. It's just a therapy, of course. And we're just talking. We are official authorities on nothing. I think it's pretty obvious. Obviously, yeah. But again, feel free to reach out to us at info at hotwifepodcast.com. Let us know your thoughts, questions, comments, ideas for a show. We're going to start following up now the holidays are over. We had a lot of people talk about they'd be willing to come on the show. So we'll see if they're local to come in. Or if they just want to call in. So we'll see. Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah, we can do some interview more with more people. I love that. I love seeing what other people are doing in the lifestyle that's so much different than what we're experiencing. So it's kind of nice to see, you know, and hear about what their experiences are. So with that said, stay horny. Have a good night, everybody.