Swinging and STD's

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Speaker1: this program contains strong sexual content no one under the age of 18 is permitted to listen to or download the podcast in any manner the host guest and performers are all over the age of 18 rebroadcasting this podcast in any manner is strictly prohibited without the written consent of the owners of the hot wife podcast the commentary of this program is the sole opinion of its host or guest it does not reflect that of the opinion of the hot wife podcast owners agents or representatives this podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice hi this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast where we discuss all the good the bad and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle hello everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast and i'm here again with my wonderful husband vince who's ignoring me right now i'm not ignoring him check us out i'm looking at something that's more important than you bitch i don't just get to sit there and look pretty i'm actually running the board yeah actually he is doing everything i just like to pick on him yeah i'm just loving and kind Only nice
Speaker2: Only nice I take that back
Speaker3: Yeah
Speaker1: It's the thanks I get
Speaker2: And I do give a lot of thanks don't i no not at all not to me all right okay you got me so well it's hump day it is hump no yes yes it yes no yes no i don't know i'm kissing them i'm doing never knock on wood knock on knock on wood but it's ikea furniture but um the gentleman was saying like him and his wife had been talking about and they got very excited about it well we know a few people and then like my good buddy his wife's a germaphobe also yeah so there's it's not it's a valid concern it is a valid concern i mean she's over she's more than just worried about std she doesn't well i think there's more than there's a whole lot of things at play yeah so that's even even more more so than just regular stds which is a. I get it. We get it. We're not bashing anybody. I mean, your preference is bareback. Now, in general, our experiences have been that most of the people inside the lifestyle try to keep themselves clean across the board. Yeah, when I explain it to this gentleman, I'm saying that we're not playing with, quote, high-risk people. Hopefully not. You don't know. In all fairness, we don't know. We're assuming. Yeah, I mean, if I see tracks. I'm going to play devil's advocate. Yeah, sure. Go ahead. By all means. But if I see tracks on their arms, I'm going to be like, no, I don't think so. Or if I know that they're legitimately a prostitute but not, you know, not really maintaining themselves, not getting tested, then I'm going to be like, uh, no. And we usually have a screening process, a vetting process, if you will, and it kind of sort of works for us and has worked for us for the last 20 years. I mean, we have a couple people that get through that. And if guys want to wear condoms. They're more than welcome to. We don't stop anybody from wearing a condom. No. You know. No, we don't. But, yeah. Again, there is no true sign just because someone looks like they're clean and well-kept.
Speaker1: So we're not saying, oh, if they come dressed in a shirt and tie, obviously they're going to be clean. No, that's not what we're saying.
Speaker3: No, that's not.
Speaker2: But we always have like a time where we talk with them, we find out more about them.
Speaker1: Yeah, we kind of get a feel for them.
Speaker2: Yeah, we don't blatantly ask them, hey, do you have any sexually transmitted diseases?
Speaker1: And they'll be like, oh, yeah, shoot, I forgot to tell you. So why don't you go to college? You have an STD? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a valid concern. I get it. It is a valid concern. Driving a car nowadays is a valid concern. Sure. right you know flying in an airplane going to a shopping center you know these are all valid concerns nowadays there's no guarantees in life and again i'm not belittling it or saying it's not a valid concern i'm just saying that in the scope of everything in today's world there are a lot of hazards a lot of a lot of like you can't put a condom on and go to the to the shopping center and hope there's not gonna be an active shooter there exactly you know so it's something it's going to be a personal choice you and your partner or whoever have to make that decision and again if you're going to go play with someone and they tell you we prefer you wear condoms then wear condoms if that offends you then don't play with them exactly yeah no when we do when we were at the house party they were wearing condoms because they didn't want to mess up the playground as it were i get when you're playing with multiple people potentially in one night yeah you don't want to you know spooge up the playground yeah you know especially the next This guy's like, hey, I want to do Oro. Yeah, you don't want to, you know. Spooge up the playground. Yeah. You know, especially when the next guy's like, hey, I want to do oral. It's like, ah, I got to, you know. Yeah, in case there's going to be multiple people in the playground, you don't want to muddy it up. Yep, yep. Yeah, and I also think sometimes I wear condoms like that just to help prolong things. Condoms do have a way of deadening senses for men. sure yeah you want to pop in the first three minutes or less or less but um so it's a valid concern it's something that uh if you're someone get looking to get into swinging you know a couple or whatever uh even a single whether it be male or female um if it's a concern we fully encourage you to you know to do that you know if that's but if that's going to help you make feel comfortable and in all honesty condoms aren't foolproof no i don't think anything is except abstinence you come right down to it yeah you want no risk stay home yeah. Yeah, you want no risk. Well, here's the thing. They're like, well, you know, we could be tested and this and that. I was like, wait a minute. The only way you can guarantee a test is if you and your potential playmate and your other partner or whatever, whoever's going to be in the group having sex, go to the same place, get all tested at the same time, and then immediately go play. No, the test, it takes you days to get the test results back. So in that time, they can play somebody else. So you have to make sure no one, you like all lock yourselves in a vault somewhere. Somewhere. And no one touches anyone until the results come back. Exactly. And, you know, so just because they're even tested doesn't necessarily mean. Right, exactly. You know, I mean, in all fairness, if, I mean, unless you know 110% for a fact, your mate's not fooling around on you. Right. You could get something from your mate. Yeah, exactly. You know, if your mate is cheating on you. Mm-hmm. I mean, I've heard that happening where, you know, a wife or husband comes down with something. It's like, I haven't been with anyone else but you. Well. Oops. I got it from a toilet seat. Yeah. I got pregnant from a toilet seat, but you're a man. Oh, well, you know, that happens sometimes. I hear when that happens. Or, oh, I just had something to tip my tongue. It's like, oh, even stupid things like, oh, this might be a little bit gross. Sorry if it gets really gross. But even like if I have a urinary tract infection and it becomes a vaginal infection, I can transport it, I can give it to you. And I haven't, you know you know and i might may or may not have been with anybody just you know sometimes a ph and a woman's who isn't quite right and yada vagina area is a very complex system yeah it has to be the right ph it has to be more acidic but if you have enough chlorine in there it gets algae on the side yep it's just just like my Maybe I should use the same thing. Maybe we should get those little floaters. You know, the little chlorine float thing we have. You fill it up with tablets. I'll put that in my vagina. We'll get lost in there. We'll get lost. Let me see. The thing is like. What's wrong with having a skimmer in your pussy, though? Well, you know, we get all the stuff that's floating around in the leaves Yeah I hate when that happens Oh that robot might be fun If I get to go down on a woman And I see like there's like Dead flies Oh god
Speaker2: I thought we were getting gross Okay do you walk away Or do you keep going just spit the flies out
Speaker1: I kind of do a keto style thing So it's kind of like protein
Speaker2: It's protein okay
Speaker1: Thank you. getting gross okay do you walk away and you keep going just put the flies out it's i kind of do a keto style thing so it's kind of like protein it's protein okay but then i gotta retract that because somebody's gonna go well come with protein oh no it's not no not in my world it's a protein you don't want to i eat the egg yolks not the egg white there you go see i like the egg whites not the egg yolks that's why we get along so that's exactly why we get along but um no it's it's a valid very valid concern and um i mean i i think the best advice we can give you for that is you have to go on your own judgment if you want to find if you can find partners you know you can trust and like you become kind of exclusive and everybody gets tested and then you go okay you haven't played with anyone we haven't played with anyone since we got tested we can play but then again if someone ventures outside of that realm i mean you have to do your homework like okay when did you play with them and when did you get tested right i mean you could you could play with someone today get tested tomorrow doesn't mean it's going to show up in the test exactly whatever the incubation period i don't even know yeah um yeah again you know we get in cars and drive every day and think it's safe but you know from as someone who's been hit by numerous drunks and idiots you know you never know you don't know you don't know so i i told the gentleman just i said you have to go with your gut if you you know you if if you're looking at somebody and like something's just not sitting right something's not right walk away sure walk away but again he's talking about his wife too so this is something they have to come up with as a together as a couple yeah yeah um and again find yourself see i i would push you more towards finding another couple that you could trust versus a single male finding a single male that that is going to be honest with you like, no, I haven't played with anybody else. Are you kidding me? They just want to... You can find yourself a big ugly fuck that you know he isn't getting laid anyplace else. Yeah, you're right. Because a single guy would be like, no, I want to play. I want to play. Oh, sure. Yeah, another couple would definitely be the safest scenario you could find yourself another couple that is kind of in the same mindset you might be okay you know it's like okay listen we haven't really played with anyone we'll go get tested you go get tested and we'll just kind of be exclusive and now you got to hope you guys all get along or then well maybe you hang out socially sure beginning and talk about it and see where it goes. And if you're like, wow, we get along socially, maybe we can go to the next step. Well, yeah, that's obviously got to be part of it. Yeah. I mean, even when you're not exclusive, it's kind of a thing we do anyway. We try to have the playmates be someone that are friendly and we can talk to them socially as well as, you know. That's what makes it so nice if we have a social connection. So I agree with that. And again, I hope, and there's no proof, I would hope people that are in the lifestyle, if God forbid they came down with something, that they back out of the lifestyle. I would tend tend to think they would there's no guarantee right i think that someone in the lifestyle tends probably stands a better chance of getting something if they play with somebody who's not in the lifestyle wow that's interesting why would you say that i would think you know like if you're i just tend to think i'd like to think let me put it that way again we i have no proof um and i'm not saying it's how it is i'm just giving my general opinion okay is that like people in the lifestyle want you know they want to play around and they want to keep clean they don't want their you know they don't want the sores and shit like that that so that'll stop them from playing you know exactly you know some guy pulls his dick out and you and you see sores on it you're like uh no i don't think so pal come back when that's no you wouldn't even say that no sorry thanks for playing bye i don't trust you yeah don't come back don't come back at all trust that yeah no it's like no if you pulled that fucking thing out and you didn't tell us right that's no i don't trust you fuck you yep no that's not even an option don't come back that's that's the option is no you're gone i like that that but again sores and stuff are not any guarantee that you know he could have a perfectly perfectly clean dick or she had a perfectly clean pussy doesn't mean you're not going to get something that's true but i would like to think people in the lifestyle are going to be a little more cognitive and like okay i can't go and do this yep just tell them how to make and well no i know i just can't be in the lifestyle right i i'd like to back out of everything and just sure whatever i need to get my get my life straight now. Where you go to a bar and just pick somebody up. People at the bar, they don't give two fucks. They're not going to see you again. They're probably not even going to give you the real name or whatever. Like they do on the Swinger website. Well, that's different. Aren't you horny biker 172? Yeah, that's my name. That's my name. Yeah, that's my birth certificate. If there is actually a HornyBiker172 who listens to the show, sorry, I just made that name up. Pure coincidence. But, you know, I'd like to think that people generally in the lifestyle, because they want to develop, generally want to develop friends and want to develop a regular relationship of sorts. You know, they want, like, a lot of single guys we met, I was like, oh, I would love to develop a friendship where it could be a kind of regular thing. It's like, yeah, okay. Well, you know, you say that, let's pretend. And then all of a sudden it's like, what the fuck did you me your regular thing just got ended yeah exactly you know and you know what you're going to do you're going to tell everybody in your circle like whatever site you're on stay away from you know happy biker one two three um because he's you know typhoid mary he's he's got something you don't want exactly you know It's a painful ride, you know. Yeah, and when that spreads, you won't get anybody to play with you. Yeah. So. So, yeah, that's interesting. I mean, unless you like to have it burn when you pee, don't contact him. But, of course, you could go spread that with being a lie, too. Exactly. Which you shouldn't do. That's 110% wrong. But, no, I think, you know, again, it's a, life's a crapshoot across the board. Yeah, it is. But, again, condoms, you know, I mean, hey, bareback is fun. Don't get me wrong. Oh, yeah. It's definitely fun. But, you know, and, again, just because we're in a condom doesn't mean you can't get something kissing or whatever well that's likely yeah less likely but my problem is and i don't know about now but when i was younger i ripped condoms with my pussy sure i mean they would you know i was with an ex-boyfriend, I think. That's probably how I got me pregnant, that one. Actually, I was just talking to someone, and they had gone to their doctor, and they had gotten blood tests. And they had said to the doctor, you know, the doctor says, you know, you got a clean bill. You know, your test came back clean and everything else. And the person said, but, you know, I thought maybe because I get cold sores that I would, that maybe I had herpes. And the doctor told this person, everyone has herpes. It's in you. Everyone has herpes. Cold sores are one version of herpes. It's just a matter of where it is on your body or if it flares up. Yeah, there's three, three types that I don't want to get too technical, but there's the ones that cause chicken pox. Okay. The ones that cause the genital herpes, and then there's a cold sore. One's varicella zoster, the other one is herpes zoster, and then type 1, type 2. Can you tell she has a nursing degree? Yeah, I remember that because it's like they're all cousins. So if you've had chicken pox, you've had herpes. It's just a cousin of the one that you don't like according to what this person told me a doctor said to her everyone has herpes especially it's like they say everyone has cancer it's just a matter of if it's active or not exactly it's still hiding in there somewhere so so just you know so our suggestion i think i can speak for you is you have to do what's best for you. We can't tell you to not wear a condom. We're not going to tell you to just fuck it and go get into swinging either way. No. You have to do what's best for you and your partner. Yeah, exactly. Well, we had one gentleman reach out to us and wanted to play, and he was a pro-condom guy, and he's like, even for everything,
Speaker2: he was, oh, we can get flavored condoms and this and that. So we're like, you don't trust yourself.
Speaker1: Why should we trust you? That was a thing that was a concern. It's like, okay, I understand you want to be safe. Well, the one thing, too, the guy was married. He was married, which didn't give him a notch in the positive column right and then he went to wear a condom for everything oral oh sure intercourse oh he didn't want to make everything and in all fairness too if i remember right he wasn't necessarily shooting videos with him wouldn't have been something that i didn't i didn't see it. Right, right. He wasn't, you know, he wasn't like, he wasn't me. Few people are, dear. Few people are. And every one of those people are so grateful. I'm sure. Yeah, there's too many marks in the wrong column with him. If someone starts throwing too many red flags, be cautious like i said go with your gut you know you know if if you know someone's like well when was the last time you got tested yeah that's a fair question but they're like well you said you got tested two weeks ago can you get tested again but it's like well when were you tested well don't worry about my test yeah no no no no. I don't think so. I think the other thing that I always have a problem with is I don't want to be. Long division? Oh, man, yeah, that's it, too. No, I don't mean, like, if we go to our primary doctor, I don't want to be read the riot act about messing. I just simply sit there and just say, I just, just for shits and giggles, I want to get want to get a You know they're going to ask, right? It's not in their fucking business. It's true. I'm paying for it. Just give me the fucking test. What do you care? It's like, you know, if you don't want to give it to me, I'll find a new primary. It's pretty goddamn simple. I'm paying you a fucking deductible and shit you're getting money just fucking do the test you know we're fine to clinic or someplace that i don't you know again depending on the state right i know the state of pennsylvania has i don't know where you get them done but pennsylvania has where you can go get tests done through the state so i don't know where there used to be a thing called talent testing and they it was a little more widespread i think they're mostly in florida now which was meant for people shooting adult content right exactly that's all it was is just sort of like these labs that are around for testing your blood and you know all these different ones and uh is that my headphones make a lot? I don't know what that noise is. I think it's my headphones. Sounds like a snake. Yeah, it does. It's my headphones. Okay. I don't know why. Is there beads of sand in your headphones? I don't know. I just keep hearing that. Maybe it's just your head. A lot of sand in my head. Yeah. Don't shake your head, Donna. Don't shake your head. The sand's going all over the place. It's a valid concern. Yeah, it is a valid concern. And again, if they legalize prostitution, then all these places to get tested will be viably available. There you go. Even for people who are not in these, you know, legalitution and everybody can easily get tested without being shamed and all the negative bullshit that goes along with it then more people get tested well they have those at home colonosc. You know, you shit in a cup. Why can't they have it where you, you know, at-home sex test thing, you know?
Speaker2: They might have that.
Speaker1: I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker3: I haven't seen it on TV.
Speaker2: I don't know.
Speaker1: It's like, does it burn when you pee? Is your dick inflamed? Buy Joe Bunyak's at-home sex test. See if you have an STD.
Speaker2: Is your penis oozing and pus?
Speaker1: It's like, ooh. Does your vagina seem swollen with all sorts of ulcers on it? Buy Joe Bunyak's STD
Speaker3: test.
Speaker2: Oh, that sounds awful.
Speaker1: Here's the heads up. If any of those things are symptoms you have, stay the fuck away from everybody.
Speaker2: Just stay away from everybody. Get it dealt with.
Speaker3: Yeah. Of course,
Speaker1: you could always take Angeline's routine and just have people fucking douse with Listerine.
Speaker2: I don't know if Listerine would kill anything like that.
Speaker1: It's going to kill my sex drive.
Speaker2: There you go. That's one thing it will kill.
Speaker1: You will not have to worry about any STDs from anybody because it's like, ah, fuck.
Speaker3: Thank you. like that. It's going to kill my sex drive. There you go. That's the one thing it will kill. You will not have to worry about any STDs from anybody because it's like, ah, fuck. It's like, I don't want sex now. You had to have ice in that cup too, didn't you? You're just full of fucking ice tonight. I am. Jesus Christ. Could I crush the ice with my... Hang on, let me turn your mic down. Go ahead. Donna! All right, I'll turn your mic back up now. It's hot. I'm not going to have my rum and coke without ice. You know, this is why doing shows to Angelina better. When she gets warm in here, she takes clothes off. Ah, I see. You sit there and chew ice. I just chew ice. Do you see the difference in sexiness? Yes. Both you beautiful beautiful women. She doesn't drink. Both you're very sexy. She drinks water all the time. Yeah, but she doesn't drink alcohol. Yeah, so what? Well, I want to drink alcohol. Yeah, you don't have to have ice, isn't it? That'll be warm. The water she drinks is warm. I don't like warm water. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Cremeadonna. Sorry, I don't like warm water. Oh, my God.
Speaker2: You like hot cum, though?
Speaker3: Well, hell yeah. That's different. That's a whole different drink there. See, some drinks are meant to be hot, and some drinks are meant to be cold.
Speaker2: I don't like cum at all.
Speaker3: Well.
Speaker2: Iced, hot, warm. Two sugars, a cream, nothing. Oh, that is the cream.
Speaker3: Yeah, I guess it is. That is the cream. Yes, it is. And that's fine, dear, to cream, nothing. Oh, that is the cream. Yeah, I guess it is. That is the cream. Yes, it is. And that's fine, dear, to each their own.
Speaker2: That's right.
Speaker1: To each their own. That's why it's a medica.
Speaker2: That's right.
Speaker1: I've got to find out what's making that fucking noise.
Speaker3: It's killing me.
Speaker2: I'm not going to move. It's like when I talk.
Speaker1: I think it's your shoulder brace.
Speaker3: No.
Speaker2: Why would my shoulder brace make that noise?
Speaker1: I don't know. Move your head. I'm moving my head. Oh, I don't know. I was doing this before. When your boobs have a leak? God, I hope not. I hope not either. I think it's these headphones. These very pretty, sparkly pink headphones. Well, okay. Whatever. I just noticed that. I know. I'm trying to stay very still here. I'm not the problem child here, am I? I'm totally the problem child. I'm always a problem child. So. But, yeah, getting back to the topic. I mean, again, it's not necessarily a funny topic. It's not necessarily a sexy topic. No, but it's a necessary topic. It's a necessary topic. It's a very relevant topic to not just swingers, but to life in general.
Speaker3: I mean, you know, I always pose you the question, you know, if you were single and you meet someone online or you go to a bar,
Speaker2: how do you know?
Speaker3: Good question.
Speaker2: You know?
Speaker1: So if you were in that situation where you just went to a regular bar or you met someone online and you would insist on protection either for you or for them, then do the same thing. Yeah, exactly. But it does seem like the people in the lifestyle are more, how can I put this? People in the lifestyle talk about sex a lot. They'll talk about their concerns.
Speaker2: They're very, very articulate with how they have sex, what turns them on, I mean, the whole gamut.
Speaker1: Well, I would say be careful who you become friends with. That's true. Because you'll see the quality of people. When you meet people in the lifestyle, you're going to meet people that are of great quality, and you're going to meet some, and you're like, no, I don't think so. Exactly you know go with your sixth sense yeah you know exactly um and again your sixth sense could be nope everybody's got to wear a condom even on their tongues on their dicks on their mouths on their whatever whatever find someone find someone that agrees with you and practices that there's nothing wrong with that i'm picturing the whole body condom in my mind right now it's so hot eddie murphy years ago one of his routines he's Thank you. that there's nothing wrong with that i'm picturing the whole body condom in my mind right now it's so hot eddie murphy years ago one of his routines he's he was during the 80s but age oh age is big oh my god yeah he's like what's next you put your dick in and it explodes you know it's like oh baby oh i guess i should get that checked out you know, luckily, it seems like AIDS has really died back. Yeah, I think the last person I... I mean, it's still out there because they advertise the drugs. It's scary. The drugs, I quote, it's non-detectable, which means it can't be spread. It's like, how about we just have it where it's not detectable because it's not there anymore? Well, I don't think they can do it because once it's a virus, once you have
Speaker2: the virus, you can't get rid of the virus.
Speaker1: I'd like to think, though, too, it is die down where people are...
Speaker2: Oh, yeah, like you said, there are drugs that can make you so you're
Speaker1: non-detectable. Yeah, but I think also it's become... I actually think it's also still kind of gone back, and I'm not saying it's a good thing. I think it's become more, again, more popular in the gay community than it I'll see you next time. It's become, I actually think it's also still kind of gone back, and I'm not saying it's a good thing. I think it's become more, again, more popular in the gay community than it is in the heterosexual community. It's not good in any community. It's not good in any community. No, but I'm just saying. But, yeah, it's one of those things that, you know, there's so much you can do now. They have mouth dams. They have... I don't even know what a mouth dam is. It's like a diaphragm for your mouth that you can put in your mouth so you blow a guy. You don't... Well, it's not like that night guard I put in my mouth. I've never seen one. I have to type it in. Will it help my teeth? I have this mouth guard I have to wear because I grind my teeth. Is it something like that? When you sleep. When I sleep, yeah, I grind my teeth. So, you know. A little angry elf you are when you sleep. I am an angry elf, but only when I sleep, apparently. But unbelievable. Yeah, it happens. So, but yeah, so that was our advice to him. To anyone, is you have to do what's best for you. We do caution you to be careful. Think about it. Whatever is comfortable for the both of you. Again, if you can find a couple or couples that you guys can all agree on, like, okay, you know what, we're just going to stay kind of exclusive.
Speaker3: Right.
Speaker1: Now, you have to trust each other that everyone's staying exclusive.
Speaker3: Exclusive.
Speaker2: But, again, from what I've read in that they're they're toying with getting into swinging so they're new they're new okay so you can go get your test and you have a clean bill of health go listen we've never played with anyone else here's something saying we're clean we'd love to you know develop you know let's hang out get to know each other and if you decide to to the next step you're gonna have to get something that shows us you're queen and then then do what you want right yeah then if you want to wear condoms great if you don't great but you know everybody has to be honest and there's there that's still the gray area that's the great you have to have faith that you know they might tell you but you don't know is the husband out banging around on the behind the wife or wife banging around behind the husband or you don't know so honesty is the key here life's a big gamble across the board it is with everything so i can't like you said we can't say throw caution to the wind just go for it you have to do what is right for yourselves what makes you comfortable maybe swinging isn for you. Maybe the fantasy is just as far as you're going to be able to take it. And that's fine too. It does add a level of excitement and eroticism to a relationship. You can go to a swinger party. You can go to some of these clubs and stuff like that and just be a voyeur. You don't have to play. Or get into doing soft swap. How about that? about that so soft swap you go to you might meet another couple and you and your wife play and the other couple they play but you don't interchange okay i thought again i thought soft swaps also where just you it's just so that's another option well then because oral is far less likely to transmit um because the acids in your saliva i'm told that's what i can't prove that that's what i've yeah i've read reports that said that and then other reports that contradict that so i don't yeah so i said that's what i've been told i can't prove it well if you have a cut in your mouth then you're gonna have like if you like yeah you know you always bite this side of your hot sauce then uh hot sauce listerine sure oh that'll do it no i mean you know um but just do you know listen you know because we're you could be honest with the other couple like listen we're interested but you know we don't we're just afraid so what we'd like to do is let's meet we think it'd be erotic to you know my wife and i are going to play around you and you guys be in the same room we're going to watch you guys fuck you watch us fuck we all have some fun yeah you don't have to you don't have to have a tag team match and tag one and out no no you know i guess too i guess with the soft swap i is is is jerking off part of it like if somebody you want you know i mean yeah you might You wear your rubber gloves. No, I guess with the soft swap, is jerking off part of it? Well, you can do what you want. Yeah, you might be able to do what it's like. You can wear your rubber gloves. No, I don't think you have to worry about that. I mean, I think, yeah, if you wanted to do something more, you know, again, how far do you want to take your paranoia? Is it kissing too bad? You can't kiss the other person's significant other? I don't know. That's everyone's to decide. There's a lot of. We're not suggesting that one of those is okay, but the other isn't. Right, exactly. That's up for everyone to determine. So many layers to this. Again, or just keep it as a fantasy. But you can go to swinger parties and just be a voyeur. You don't have to play with anybody. No means no. Just feed off of the eroticism of watching others people like to be watched i know i do that makes sense yeah so it's what i'm saying it's not that you know that's not necessarily going to offend anybody you can go to a swinger party you can go to a swinger club and watch other people and everything else and see what other people, how other people handle it. We're just telling you how our thought process, that doesn't mean a bucket of nails, you know. So by all means, you know, explore, ask around other people, you know. Yeah, gain more knowledge and find out your comfort level and move on from there. Go with the fantasy. Just go watch other people. Sometimes the fantasy is actually better than reality. We've discussed that before. And maybe just watching other people will feed that fantasy. That way you can go home and talk about it and then add your own fantasy to it. Sure. Yeah, it might be kind of erotic. I, I mean, yeah, you don't have to jump in the pool to enjoy it. Yeah, you can just look at the water.
Speaker1: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker2: Where the people are fucking in. Sure, you made something that could be very nice into something very raunchy. Thank you, Mr. Vince.
Speaker3: Really? Yeah. We're going there, aren't we? Oh, we're always going there. When am I not going there? He's trying to help. I know. You're so helpful. No, I would sit there and, I mean, you have a lot of options. You just have to pick what works best for you. Again, you can go watch other people and then maybe move into the point where you tell the people. So be respectful. Find a couple that, it's like, listen, let's go out and have dinner and stuff and you and your wife play over there and my wife and i are going to play over here we're going to watch you you watch us and you know but you know and you know do that see where it goes from there well that's actually a good compromise yeah i like that that way you kind of get the idea of it's erotic watching other people have sex. Mm-hmm. It is very erotic. You know, and, you know, so go with that and feed off of that. That's safe. You can still kind of get over the little nervousness about fucking in front of somebody else without having it be somebody else. Mm-hmm. Because there's a level of nervousness yeah i can't get naked and start fucking or sucking somebody else but not do it with somebody you're comfortable with but you're just doing it with them in front of somebody else sort of in front not in front on the side underneath no i mean it's like the other other people are going to be involved in their own fucking so they might be stopping and watching yeah they'll stop and watch but they're like times we've been playing with another couple and like you know the guy might be licking you you know and i'm doing something with a woman and you're watching me right right and then if the woman's playing with me and i'm i get to watch whatever you're doing or whatever yeah but it's not like we're staring at each other we're just like just a quick you know glance like oh that's What's going on over there whatever yeah yeah i'm just saying until wisterine strips come out then all hell breaks loose there's a ho-ho up your ass until there's twinkies between your butt cheeks you haven't lived i haven't lived apparently i haven't either if want to know what we're talking about, you have to go listen to one of the episodes of Andrea and Jolie. Andrea and Nicole. Jolie. It just runs off the tongue too easy there. That's too funny. I have a better chance of getting laid from Andrea and Jolie than I do Andrea and Nicole. I think you're right. I think I do.
Speaker2: It might be more normal sex too.
Speaker3: Maybe.
Speaker1: I don't know. I don't know about that, man.
Speaker2: Yeah, you don't know?
Speaker1: Andrew and Nicole, man, she had Billy Bob's blood
Speaker3: around her neck.
Speaker2: No.
Speaker1: Andrew and Jolie had Billy Bob's blood around her neck for a while and a little vile.
Speaker2: Yeah, that's probably...
Speaker1: A little freaky.
Speaker2: That is a little freaky.
Speaker1: But then, I don't know, maybe it's Brad Pitt a freak? i don't know maybe it's brad freak brad pitt a freak i don't know i have no idea i don't care actually but anyway um so that's that's our you know little psa yeah tonight um sorry it wasn't very sexy i promise the next one it's necessary again the show's about swinging and sex the good the bad and the ugly this is the ugly. Yeah, well, so that's something to think about. If anybody has any other options, write in and we'll share it on one of the next shows. That would be great. I would love that. I keep checking out the emails. So if you want to email us, email us at hotwifepodcasts at gmail.com. And if you want to see where Donna is, what she's doing and her videos and stuff, go to hotwifedonnalyn.com. You see all the videos I've been editing and posting today. That's L-Y-N-N. That's right, L-Y-N-N. She says it very fast. That's hotwifedonnalyn.com. She's like those people that you call them on the phone and they're like, well, let me give you my email address. It's blah email address. It's like, what the fuck? I can't write that fast. But that's what she does.
Speaker2: Hotwife.linn.com
Speaker1: Do you want people to come see what you're doing? Yes. Okay, well then you've got to give them a chance to write down.
Speaker2: Yes, dear. Oh my God. What are you, my father?
Speaker1: No, because you're older than I am.
Speaker3: Man, burn.
Speaker1: So the other thing is, like we said, in case you didn't hear the show from the other day, our Sunday You know. Oh, man, burn. So the other thing is, like we said, in case you didn't hear the show from the other day, our Sunday night live shows are over, and we are going to be doing, probably still posting on Sundays a show that will be recorded, and we'll put it up, but it's going to be on our Patreon account. It's probably going to be a little spicier.
Speaker3: Ooh.
Speaker2: I can't wait to start doing them.
Speaker1: And so it'll be like, you know, we're going to get the Patreon going. It's going to be $5 a month to hear some hopefully little hotter shows than we're doing now. Again, we're just looking for, you know, if you really like the shows and want to help contribute to keep it all going,
Speaker3: you know, we put out a lot of work. You might not think so.
Speaker1: It might not sound it, but we do. So, just a little something that helps offset some of our costs.
Speaker2: Maybe update these headphones so they're not making this noise. I think it's you.
Speaker3: They're new headphones. I don't even, look, you can hear it.
Speaker2: I don't know what's going on. I'm not going to move.
Speaker3: I'm not moving.
Speaker2: Oh!
Speaker3: It's when you talk. It's when I talk. It's me! See, shut up.
Speaker1: Okay.
Speaker2: Now I'm having a sexual fantasy.
Speaker3: Shut up. I hate you.
Speaker2: I hate your guts.
Speaker3: All right. So anyway, with that being said, also, I want to encourage everybody to go check out Spunk Lube. Oh, yeah. You know, it's a great product. Great lubricant. Everything slides in. Stephen, our number one fan, he's coming out in a few weeks. And he was telling us about, you know, we sent him some Spunk Lube, and he... Oh, he sent us that video.
Speaker1: He can't brag enough how Spunk Lube has helped him dramatically. I'm going to let him tell you when he gets out here. Yeah, that'll be a story and a half. Yeah. So go to SpunkLube.com, check that out. It's non-sticky, water-soluble.
Speaker2: Has no taste. So if you want to, if you happen to do oral after you use it on whatever body part you're using it on, it doesn't really have a I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do it.
Speaker1: I'm not going to be able to do it.
Speaker2: I'm not going to be able to do it.
Speaker1: I'm not going to be able to do it.
Speaker2: I'm not going to be able to do it.
Speaker3: I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to you happen to do oral after you
Speaker2: use it on whatever body part you're using it on it doesn't really have a flavor it's not objectionable to get in your mouth
Speaker1: and then I'll play I'll play What's Your Face's commercial
Speaker2: oh yeah
Speaker1: I'll play Angelina Nicole's commercial so hold on a second, here's Angelina Nicole
Speaker2: Hi, this is Angelina Nicole's commercial. So hold on a second. Here's Angelina Nicole.
Speaker3: Hi, this is Angelina Nicole,
Speaker2: host of Sex Craze Podcast. If you want to find out where you can find more of me, check out sexyangelina.com. You'll find my videos, social media, and my podcast. I love showing off and this is where you'll be able to see
Speaker1: all of it. Come take a look. You know, she's got that real sexy voice. But I know we said that every time. She's just going to rip your dick off by the truth. So she got laid the other day. Yeah, I can't wait to hear that story. I can't either. It's going to be. I mean she texted you they're like she's like we've fucked in here we fucked on the steps in the bedroom on the kitchen on my piano on this it's like she went from telling me she can't get dicks in a pussy to like tore that shit up i think she's trying to you know make up for lost time yeah well i i have to make sure the guy is okay i want to i want to verify i want to have him like call me so i can hear his voice and make sure he's okay i want i want a picture of him holding a newspaper with today's date yeah his eyes have to be open he has to be standing so anyway so i want to thank everyone for listening and uh i'll talk to you later all
Speaker2: great and have a great night, everybody.