Sexual Fantasy - Better in reality or as fantasy?

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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast. Hello, everybody, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast. And I'm here once again with my wonderful husband, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to My Hot Wife Podcast. And I'm here once again with my wonderful husband, Vince. Oh, boy. I'm already starting off. This is not going to be good. So, well, you picked a topic for us tonight. Yeah. And this is one that we have discussed personally with ourselves through the years. Yeah. The whole concept is your fan, your sexual fantasies.

Some, you know, everyone, you have this idea in your head of this scenario and how erotic it would be and everything else. And the question is when you actually get to do it, if you to have right that fantasy and depending on what it is obviously does it turn out to be all you had hoped for so this is a fantasy versus reality type of a thing i mean you know we've experienced some that were not even close and we've experienced some that may have been better in some ways. In some ways, yes. You know? So, like, you know, let's pick the stereotype.

Pick what would you say is a stereotypical female fantasy? Oh, a female fantasy. That's a tough one. I know a male fantasy better. Well, a male fantasy, yeah yeah it's always the two women two women it's like okay that's and they leave the thing is is like the girls will be playing with themselves so leave the guy alone well the fantasy the fantasy for men is that you know okay i'm gonna have these two. And that they're, you know, I'm going to get to, you know, fuck both of them and please them both and ravage them. And they'll play with each other. Right, right.

You know, and obviously in that fantasy, you last forever. Always, always. And have orgasm after orgasm. Well, you know, they just can't get enough of you, I guess. Right, that's what it is. But, you know, reality is I've been fortunate enough to have a, I don't know, four, six of those situations. Mm-hmm. And they've been fun. That was never one of my fantasies, honestly. No, I... No, but I obviously was complaining.

You're like, complaining no that's not on my bucket list but you know and i've never been one of those 30 second you know johnny's but you know when you have two women um doing things to you please be specific no i No, I don't get it. No, I mean, again, you know. I was there for some of them, not all of them. One or two you weren't there for. Yeah, one or two. I know one you weren't. Yeah, there were two. That hotel room where I was doing the photo shoot. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I forgot. That one was not even planned. No, they just.

That was just supposed to be a photo shoot and kiss you, miss you, see you, bye kind of thing. They raped you. They had different plans. I feel so cheap. Yeah, I'm sure you do. But, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I mean, again, I'm speaking from our experience, not necessarily for everybody.

I mean, mean you know you might be talking to your best friends like yeah i got to have two women man i fuck i left them there in a fucking heap of sweating flesh i still wanted more but they couldn't take me right okay motherfuckers usually it doesn't work okay so you came quick and you went in the bathroom and cried while they had fun with each other. That's what happened. So, but, you know, like the one instance I'm thinking about was with you and this other woman, Daisy. Oh, okay. Okay. There was so many experiences with her, though.

Yeah, but there was only one that the three of us played. You know, it was fun. You know, there was a time when one of you was on my face and the other one was on my crotch, and there was a time when one of you was on my crotch and one of you was licking my balls, and then there was one where you both were licking both, you know. One was on my shaft, one was on my balls, and then played switchies. That was fun. I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining, you know. I mean, for a fat, ugly guy like me, you know, it's like... Oh, God, stop it. Okay, sorry. You prefer to say that.

You don't want me saying it. But anyway... Give me to the punch. Yeah, I'll punch it. Oh! But, you know, again, I never had that fantasy. And I think, again, both of you were beautiful women. So that wasn't... Yeah. That part of the fantasy was true. Yeah. Both of you were in great shape. I can't say that for me.

But, no, and, again, the reality is, you know i lasted half decent time but then you get so worked up that when you pop it's a pretty big pop right right at least for me i can't speak for everyone the second time of bat wasn't going to be for a while oh yeah yeah so it really was the two of you having fun. Now, I did get to join in on that, and that was fun for me. Don't get me wrong. Oh, yeah. But I think the stereotypical fantasy on that might not be all that.

No, I think I was trying to think of like, I don't know about typical women's fantasy but the one that i always had was be fucked and eaten at the same time and i've had that well i've had that but again the fantasy was much better than the reality explain that though well um it was a long time ago but okay the person i'm not trying to toot my own horn couldn't eat me out like. Okay, you did it for me. And that's what you're looking for, someone who can perform orally. And again, you've had guys who can do it very well. Yeah, very well.

But here's the problem for them, or maybe not, I don't know, if they're eating my pussy and there's a dick going in and out, then their tongue is really close to somebody else's dick. So there's always that logistics that could be a problem. Well, that's why I would never do it. I have a penis allergy, as I've stated before. Many times. And I am not shy about bragging about my penis allergy. And that's my thing. Right, exactly. I don't know if other people wouldn't. And, you know, we've had guys that said they would be going.

Oh, no licking you all like the the dude in the trailer oh yeah i don't remember his name right now but so it doesn't matter dennis dennis well dennis was fucking you sinful was eating yeah you know she doesn't have the she doesn't have your tongue well but i mean it was a lot of fun i mean i mean that whole experience was a lot of fun but again it didn't live up to my fantasy and that i think that's the problem it's like the fantasy is almost always better than the reality is can we say that? Sure. Almost always. Not always. I said almost always.

I mean, another experience we've had, not in every case, but I think in majority, is women want to fantasize about somebody with a huge cock. Right. It doesn't matter what color. color, just a huge cock. Right. Okay. And how many of the guys with the huge cocks, all they want to do is stick their dick in. Right. There's no foreplay or no licking pussy. Oral, no. No, they just want to put their dick in. So all of a sudden, you know, this whole fantasy of having this guy with a huge dick, well, if they don't work you up, if there's no, again, this is not true in every case.

Some women are happy just for that. Right, exactly. Okay, so those of you who are into just, yeah, I just want dick in me, that's it. No, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. We're talking more about our personal experiences. Our experiences, yeah. I need a little more of that to get me where I need to be. We started talking one time on a show we thought was recording and didn't about edging.

And we'll have to explore that again or talk about it right but you know again if you're into the edging thing getting that um sensory heightened right exactly you know i mean you know being teased would just make that bigger cock feel good i would imagine I mean, for me, the edging comes almost strictly from oral and your oral to be more specific oh thank you but i don't have to but that's 20 bucks here's a credit card but i i don't i don't i can't always have a vaginal orgasm and my orgasm it did i mean sometimes i can sometimes i can't but usually it's from working myself up going through the oral and having an oral orgasm and then having a vaginal one you tend to need as i do i need a lot more i'm better like yeah just i i like the kissing and the touching and the build-up i like the build-up then you know some or the teasing yeah yeah you know just let the motor warm up and get going before you put it in gear and let's go you know and i could see where you know if if a woman you know has this fantasy of a man with a larger unit, you know, maybe the excitement of it happening is enough to get her going.

That could be. But again, you've had enough of those units that, you know, it's more like, you know, I could see where it's the, like one of the things you like to do, and I enjoy it, we've talked about it briefly, is like when we're shooting and it's someone new, how you don't just like, you ask them not to just take their clothes off completely. You take them off and you take the pants off and leave the underwear on and kind of tease them as well as yourself. And then when you unwrapped the quote-unquote gift, it's kind of new. That's, yeah. That's exactly what it is.

That's an element of foreplay. Yes, it is. Or teasing. For both parties involved. And I would even think being excited to be with someone is great. And you you can you know obviously get hard like oh my god she's gorgeous i can't you know i'm excited i'm gonna get to do this right but it takes you up the next level when all of a sudden she's kissing you and touching you right right maybe dirty talk or whatever exactly so i like all that stuff yeah well and then it just makes her want you more, I would think. At least in our experiences. Yeah, I mean, Rufy's helps for me.

Yeah, we put that in the aphrodisiac category. Yeah, I have a bowl of them. It looks like M&M's next to the bed. But anyway, that's me. Um, but yeah, so I could see like, you know, the same as we have met guys that talk a great game. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know, I want to be on camera. I want to, you know, I can perform all this stuff. And then also it's like, uh, I don't really want to be on camera. Right.

to be on camera right is your husband going to be here watching uh all of a sudden it was like the brakes well and this is multiple people yeah this is picking on any particular no no no i'm saying you know we've had a few people like this that uh you know they're all hot and bothered then when they the tires hit the asphalt, it was in all fairness, I am not a performer i am my best side is behind the camera and um you know so those who can do it in front of the camera kudos man i'm i'm jealous i guess i don't know maybe not but everybody's different yeah that would make you a voyeur that's what thateur exhibition is.

I'm very comfortable in front of the camera. Yeah. And again, like the, the fantasy even is reverse it for a woman to have two men. You know, you've done them numerous times. Have I? Yeah. Let's go to the video. Let's go to the video. Get my John Madden board out. Well, over here she tried to do this, and the guy ran around to the end. Unfortunately, those are not up anymore because of it. Yeah, well, we'll do them again. We'll get some new ones, yeah. Better ones.

But again, in that aspect, you have guys that, you know, for you, it's a matter of like, again, trying to balance yourself with one arm while you're sucking one guy. And, you know, another guy, you know, he's either banging you too hard or trying to knock you off balance. Yes. Your nose is banging into the guy's, you know, crotch area or, you know, it can be uncomfortable. Sometimes that positioning. Yes. There's a lot of logistics involved. Yeah, the origami ain't working there. Exactly.

I was just flashing back to the time I had the three guys all with the same name, which I, that was, I went back, I looked at some of the, that old video. There were three Steves. That's, you can say that because you don't know who. Yeah, exactly. It was three guys all named Steve. It was kind of funny. They had our own pet names for each other. That's a whole other story. Yeah, that's another story. But, like, just the way things were set up, I, you know, I must have been a little more agile back. It was a few years ago, so I was like on the... Yeah, it was probably 10 years ago.

Yeah, so I was a little more agile. But, I mean, you're juggling like three different guys. I'm sucking one, sitting on one, fucking the other. Yeah, you're sitting on one and you had two, one in each hand, and trying to go back and forth and trying to coordinate the up and down movement with the penis. Yeah, yeah. It can be a circus, a trapeze act. It kind of was. You did it without a safety net. I'm proud of you. It was dangerous. It was dangerous. It was very dangerous. You managed. I did. I had a good time, too.

And even coordinating all that to shoot it on video can be kind of tricky, because now you have to coordinate four people, like, oh, dude, you stepped in front of the camera. Yeah. I wonder, okay, maybe I shouldn't be talking about this on air, because it's kind of boring, but maybe having the four cameras shoot like we do now with the switcher might be easier? Well, it's a different world now, different world now, yeah. You think it'd be easier? I mean, I'd like to try it again, you know, eventually. I don't know if we can get in touch with those three. Not with those.

Yeah, we've lost contact with them. That's what happens in this realm. One moved far away. One I think is still obtainable, and the one I just don't want to see again. Let me guess. Jail patrol! Anyway. But, yeah, so, I mean, the same is, you know, there's been people who might have fantasized, like, you know, oh, I want to see my wife get anal, or the woman, like, oh, I want to really do anal, and then all of a sudden, oh. Yeah, that could be it.

Again again getting worked up for it really helps you know yeah do you want a fantasy that some men have that i don't understand oh hold on let me let me do you get back to it pegging no i don't understand that one either no no okay something something quote unquote more normal normal is they want a virgin. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, no.

You know, I sit there and think about, like, do I really want to spend time training someone to, you know, part of the whole virgin thing technically if you could find one of legal age yes of legal legal age oh he said that twice he must be no yeah i don't go for the pedophile bullshit underage bullshit you know someone of legal i do not tolerate any of that. I'll be quite honest. Pedophilia, any pedophile should be drug out and shot. Revived, then hung, then revived, and then their heads should be cut off, and then shit down their neck. I'm not bitter. Ooh, tell me how you really feel.

No, yeah, the virgin thing. I mean, like I said, I did have that one virgin guy, but that was kind of fun. Okay, now I can see that's different. Yeah, because... Because a female will experience pain, generally, to the best of my knowledge, her first time. Yeah, yeah, it's not meant for that quite yet. Yeah. It's not...

Well, I'm just saying, let's pretend the girl is 20 and it's still a virgin god bless her for it if she is um but you know so she has supposedly not experienced that right uh there might still be a hymen involved exactly look at me no in medical terms aren't you impressed i know and i'm drinking'm sitting down and it's a Wednesday but I never found again I'm like nah I want the slutty women I want women who know how to suck a dick know what the fuck they're doing or know how to get on top of me and grind the shit out of my cock. I don't want one to be like, oh, it hurts, it hurts.

It's like, I go through that with other things, too. You know, like if a dick is too big and it goes into my ass, it's like, oh, hold on a second. Let's regroup a little bit here. No, you're not talking about me. So, well, how often have you ever been penetrated? I mean, the first time that a woman gets penetrated is... I mean, other than my doctor doing a prostate exam. Oh, that's just one little finger. Oh, come on. Now, both of the hands are on my shoulder. Oh, never mind. Oh, never mind. Yeah. Wait. I have another appointment tomorrow. Hey. I just went Monday. I just found his watch.

Hey, doctor. Is that harvard ring but um anyway the so that fantasy yeah i don't get some people have i never i never understood and i think that would be one that is a complete nightmare for a for a man to have a virgin woman of legal age. Yes. Yeah, I don't... And consenting. I don't know what the fantasy is. Maybe because she's never been with anybody else and he feels like he needs to be the first. Is that it? Like you got to plant your flag in that mountain type of a thing?

There's people, like we just heard an instance of my ex-wife's boyfriend being all pissed off finding out about her past. Oh, my God, seriously. Again, I'm not going to get into it. Yeah, it's a grow up. There's people who can't deal with the past. In all honesty, you have to get over that. Yeah. It's the past.

Well other we were i was in my well late 30s so yeah i knew you were married you had two kids obviously my husband was not a virgin when i met him i obviously was not a virgin when you met me so when we met each other we were just really good friends exactly so we told each other all these stories about our past so there was not gonna be like we got together romantically. It wasn't going to be like, oh, no, I've only been with. As you're cowering in a big bag of dildos for me to go do a girl-girl show. We'll watch you do masturbation. I've never done this before, no. It's not going to happen.

It didn't, but it could have. But, yeah, I think that. But anyway, back to the fantasy aspect of things. But the fantasy, again, finding a man of legal age that is a virgin, that's got to be tricky. Because I think kids today are so much more promiscuous. Wow, another big word for you. Yeah, it's more than a syllable. I know. I've got to have some more bourbon. Hold on. Go ahead. You finish. Well, they're also, because of the internet, there's so much more knowledge base. They're talking about slang things that didn't really, I'm not going to say they didn't exist when we were growing.

We just had different terms for them. Sex drives are so much higher now for younger people. Well, again, there's so much more. Yeah. I mean, when we were kids, you know, you didn't see the sex you saw on TV now. That doesn't mean that the sex drive is higher. It just means that the stimulus is out there. The stimulant is more.

The stimulant is You're going a bigger drive you're still horny as a kid i mean you couldn't get up i mean as boys we couldn't right but you just didn't see the visual imagery being shoved in your face every second but it's everywhere i mean it is comic books now and shit that stuff yeah comic books the internet commercial commercials you know everything that tricks the fucking rabbit he's just not right i'm not left anyway so but yeah but i could see you he's just not right i'm not left anyway so but yeah but i could see the that fantasy for a woman to have a younger man as a virgin not younger being but still of the equal age right um being a virgin being maybe inexperienced i think is more intriguing to me than virgin but you know The thing is, I would think, and it's not a virgin, being...

Maybe inexperience, I think, is more intriguing to me than virgin. But the thing is, I would think, and it's not a given, that I'm going back to when I lost my virginity and it was to an older woman. I was 17. Hey, that was rape, statutory rape, wasn't it? She was 26. It just dawned on me, I'm a victim. Oh, my God, I'm in therapy. I was 16 and dating somebody who was 21. So, yeah, absolutely. I just realized that I was a victim of statutory rape. Oh, you poor thing. Oh, my God. I'm going to go in the fetal position to cry. I need a safe space. Fuck that.

Are you going to join the Me Too movement you gonna join the me too movement too no but anyway um you were but you know it my first experience i mean it wound up being a bad experience another example here i was 17 couldn't wait to fuck this married woman who's 26 and yeah it was over pretty quickly and then all she did was make fun of me for it it really fucked me I would have punched her square in her fucking face I was hoping to get it again but I would have punched her in her vagina like when I was with that when I was 17 I. Too many syllables.

But when I was with the young kid who was a virgin, I might have been 17. I might have been 18. So technically it might have been. It could have been. Could have been. We're going to pretend you were 17. We're going to pretend I was 17. Because you can't confirm nor deny your age. But you know you were young. It was real close. And he was young. You told part of the story. Yes, yes. I mean, I'm sure he came pretty quick, I would imagine. But for me, it was a great experience. And for him, I mean, to find me years and years later and thank me for it. Yeah, when you were dancing.

When I was dancing. You didn't even recognize him. Oh, my God. He was, what, 15? But you know he didn't make it up. Who could make that story up? Oh, who could look at me and go, you? And we were part of this karate group, and the sensei kind of like set it up. He wasn't involved. He just set it up that I could be. And he's like, you were in the karate class. You popped my cherry. It was awesome. And the whole bar kind of looked at me, and I was like, yeah, I remember. You know what? I don't even know if I remember his name. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

But he was like, it was awesome. Did every guy in the bar put their hand up? I'm a virgin. I'm sure at least one or two did because I was like, but he recognized me. I did not recognize him. Of course, he was 15 now. He was 20 something. You know, he might, it was in his 20s. He was able to get into the bar, but he recognized me, and I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, and to grow up like that. But I would not have dreamed of making fun of him in that instance. Yeah. He was a child, for God's sakes, you know, and your first time out of the box, it's going to happen quick. So what?

You do it again. I don't know why everybody makes such a big deal out of that. Well, I lost my virginity in a parking lot. So it was a hot summer's day in the backseat of my car. The car, of course. You know, again, it was unprepared. We started out just meeting there.

She was going to the mall to get a bathing suit, and I met her there because i didn't live that far away right and um we're out in the back parking lot by like one of those uh clothing bins that you donate clothes so so and obviously for our first time i made a huge mess just going to leave it at that I painted all the walls big load yeah and so she was like but then again she was making fun of me so there wasn't going to be a second shot no I saw her punch her loss she could have all, she can't now. Nope. Not even a chance.

I don't even, well, yeah, so, but, yeah, but, yeah, some of these fantasies, you know, that people have with, let's say, being tied up and flogged or whatever. Oh, yeah, that's definitely, that's definitely. I mean, you had that had that you kind of had that fantasy and then you kind of had it fulfilled did that pan out oh well the um the flogging that i had done professionally done at exotica it was my first time being flogged and i was um handcuffed or tied or restrained somehow on the spanking bench. That was very erotic. I thought that was... Well, they hit all the buttons for you.

You were getting flogged and you were in front of hundreds of people. Hundreds of people and I was restrained. So that did it. And then when I had the BDSM experience, when he started flogging my feet, I literally... When they talk about going into another zone, like a lot of these people in BDSM, they talk about going into another zone. I did go into another zone at that time. Did you? I can't say it was an orgasm, a traditional orgasm, but it was incredibly erotic and stimulating. Wow. So I thought that was, he flogged my feet, and I thought that was like awesome.

So do you have another fantasy about the being tied up? I always like being restrained in some sort of, but usually, though, like, people that aren't trained, the BDSM where you just can't jump in the BDSM, and you have to be trained. Like, people that have tied me up before, they did it too tight. There was, you know. Well, they have to have what they're doing. Exactly. My hands lost feeling. No, it wasn't pleasurable. So if I'm going to do anything like that, I'm going to go to somebody who knows what the heck they're doing. Because otherwise, it's not going to be a good experience for me.

But the one point, I guess, that was part of this conversation that we've kind of glazed over is, like, you have a fantasy about something, whatever the scenario is, and in your head or even like if you have a dream at night, like I have a lot of sexual dreams and I tell you about them. Oh, yeah, all the time. You know, the scene, you know, the lighting, the, you know, the atmosphere, everything is flawless. Right. And I'm always more agile and, you know, I'm like more of a gymnast in my fantasies than I have in real life. Oh, yeah, I can just back, do a back bend and suck another guy.

Especially when you're sitting there like you know we're you're 61 i'm 56 and just you know you know in the dreams like yeah i'm fucking the shit but you know in reality i'm like oh back spasm back spasm oh my fucking knee hurts oh my knee you know so it's you know that's the kind of shit that you know now if you're younger and you don't have that shit god bless you god bless you It will happen to you. You sit there and like, you know, it's like, you know, now if you're younger and you don't have that shit, God bless you. God bless you. It will happen to you.

But, you know, you sit there and like, you know, it's like, you know. I mean, I thought I was really tearing you up the other night. You're like, ow. You're on my hair. Yeah, you're on my hair. You're on my hair. Well, I own that thing, but why not? Yeah. That could be a whole topic in and of itself. Aging and was on top of her banging her and she's like Jenny, Jenny, I'm like you fantasize about a woman she goes no you need Jenny Craig you need Jenny Craig I have literally done that Jenny Craig I guess you're telling me I'm too heavy. Go low. That's a nutrient system. Yeah. She loves me.

See why I say when she says, oh, my wonderful husband, she's so full of shitter-eye-brusting. You are one who would just want to pick on you. It's not like you don't pick on me. Come on.'t do that to your face yeah right okay i do but um constantly but anyway let's get back to the fantasy we'll fantasize we have a great relationship how's that in reality well it has its moments and yeah few and four between but they're moments. Exactly. But yeah, I mean, the fantasies of things, you know, you might be sitting there thinking like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do this or whatever.

And, you know, the phone rings. Like, oh, motherfucker. Or like, we have the fantasy of doing a show without being bugged by our dogs. But that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen, ever. So far, it's been hefty. He came over and sniffed me, but he... So I gave him a treat, but he wanted a bigger treat, so... But yeah, I mean, we're not discouraging you from chasing him. We're just saying it's... No problem is it's going to be exactly what you want.

And, you know, hopefully you'll find some level of pleasure within whatever and however it goes down right you know but don't be completely upset if it's not exactly that you know harlequin book oh yeah description and look at me digging back in there i know i got these little paperbacks are all yeah the stuff or stuff with Fabio on the cover. And Fifty Shades of Grey. There he is now. He's bugging me. He's crying. Yeah, of course he is. But, yeah, I mean, you're going to have some things that are going to be fun. And sometimes the most erotic shit is not the fantasy stuff.

It's the spontaneous. It's the spontaneous stuff. Yeah. It really is. The stuff that you didn't plan on happening and all of a sudden it happens. You're like, oh, my God. Yeah.

it's a spontaneous it's a spontaneous stuff yeah it really is the stuff that you didn't plan on happening and all of a sudden it happens you're like oh my god yeah it's you know sometimes you just if you over plan things that they just get too i don't know but they just don't work out quite as much so it might be good just to go with the flow yeah in general but it's good to have fantasies i mean oh yeah you gotta know what you when you try to fulfill the fantasy um you know you can't sit there and it's like well i want to be fucked while i'm swinging on trapeze over the grand canyon and you know and a 21 gun salute by the fifth brigade of the marines or whatever fires shots over our head that's pretty hot hot.

Yeah, that is pretty hot. In a sick, dementia sort of way. Yeah, you've got to have some leeway because of just being human. You can't just go with the flow.

But it's good to have fantasy because I think fantasies are a way for you to explore things that might be of interest to you, that you that you might want to try if you don't have any kind of fantasy how do you know what you're going to like you know what i'm saying i'm sure just think about those things everything gets too routine without fantasies everything that's true i mean we'll expand on this topic now in the sense of um we always talk about um going into our our mental game while one of us is receiving oral right you know um oral is a great way to do it because it's it's time for and i'm sure you'll agree that i don't think so i know i'm sure you will it's a time for you just to just to be selfish and just enjoy i'm the pleasure that's being given to you.

I mean, I don't enjoy penetration, giving it. Oh, now you clarified. Oh, you almost didn't. That's what's so funny. Sometimes a guy's got to be a guy. Sometimes. Let me get my rubber gloves. Sometimes you feel like you're nuts and sometimes you don't anyway so um no that's one of the great things about uh i'm a big fan of oral sex giving and receiving um you know because you can be selfish you can just sit there and just enjoy it. It's like being pampered. Yeah, yeah. I have a mate that is very good at oil. Not good at everything, but very good at oil. When do I get to meet her or him?

So anyway, I'm not telling anything. Of course you're not. But, no, that way, you know, you can kind of live those fantasies in your head. Exactly. And it doesn't have to be the same fantasy. No. I mean, you have a rotation of four or five fantasies you tend to roll through. I do. I do. Because I dream very vivid dreams that are very... Detailed. Yeah. Detailed dreams. Because they'll tell me about them as I'm blowing them. Yeah. And I'll be like, where did you come up with these things? I should really write down some. He had some that were like really bizarre. I mean, good bizarre.

Hey, circus clowns aren't bizarre. It was almost like that. The one that I'm splayed on the table, the round table, and you spin me around and the guys are all around. It wasn't a circle that was just throwing knives at you. No. He has me on this like giant lazy Susan.

Well, this was a dream i had right a long this is a long long time this was like a a relight wheel called a relight wheel yeah but i was a big lazy susan type of a thing and and there'd be like four guys around her i thought more than that but okay whatever i don't remember the exact particulars of it and yeah we would spin the thing in me and wherever she would stop we didn't spin her like you know so that would be the reality versus the dream exactly that's it's slow you have to spin it slow again if she stopped with her crotch facing you got to fuck her for a little bit and if you had one of her hands you got jerked off and if you had the mouth you got to have a blowjob yeah and then you know after like two minutes we would slowly spin her and see where she stopped and see who gets to go there you know so yeah i forgot about that one It's been a long time.

That's the one I remember most vividly. That and...

You made a game to a sex game remember it was like a board game oh yeah i'm pretty creative aren't i yeah and it was like if you landed on certain it was almost like um there's there's games there's adult games out there oh yeah we made they were like outrageous and then we bought one and it was like this is stupid it wasn't so i came up with my own game yeah and it was it was like we had cards and it was like i just modified chutes and ladders no sure sort of monopoly take off your pants but uh yeah it was that was interesting yeah but again you know for people that you know and again we we've also experienced some people we talked to someone more recently who he is a married man and he has some fantasies and things he likes to do or have done to him that it doesn't sound like his wife would be receptive to it okay you know i'm talking about right i don't know off the top of my head but he's the newer gentleman okay okay you know he has uh we're not gonna mention his name and then he says he's a kinky guy oh yeah kinky guy he says oh i want to be pe, I want to be pegged.

Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. Oh, how good for that. Those who are into that, that's great, but that's not my gig. Everybody's different. Yeah, but so I would imagine someone like that, if you're with somebody in a relationship, which is a great thing, I hope. No, I mean for people. Not for you.

I'm hoping to have you i'm hoping to have a good someday someday you'll have a good you hear that crying that is our our hound dog who's a cry baby um but um you know i i guess sometimes these people the only way they can fulfill it is in their head whether it be through masturbation or maybe while they are having some kind of relations with their significant other oh that's true you know so i mean fantasy has a role and trying to fill it could or could not be satisfying it depends on how elaborate if you just have that fantasy having something done to you like that um Thank you.

it depends on how elaborate if you just have that fantasy having something done to you like that um you know i mean i'm going to guess you know he snuck into the bathroom with something and tried it on himself and said hey this is i kind of like this this might be fun having someone else do it to me you know and you know you run that by the wife and of course you sit here you don't say hey honey i want you to peg me in the ass you sit there and say you know there's one guy at work yeah a friend of mine i know this guy and he was saying you know that he likes to have his wife put on a strap on and and fuck him in the ass and when the wife, you know watch your wife's like well how do you feel about that well i don't know about you or your wife's gonna go what the fuck is wrong i divorce you in a fucking heartbeat yeah you ask me for that i'm divorcing you if i thought that would work i would say it but um we're still together honey i went and bought a new strap on for you and everything i thought you wanted to be pegged yeah it was a cinder block on a string i i had to improvise i told you actually i said i wanted to get a pegboard for the shed oh you don't want to be pegged no you were just in the wrong mindset that day so but uh you know and i'm using that as an example um you know the same as i have a good friend who would love his wife to get into the lifestyle oh he would love to see his wife with another man or even another woman right but you know she's a, yeah.

And she's only ever been with him, you know, being a good Catholic girl. Well, it doesn't matter. Some people... Being a good Catholic girl is the one that, you know, lifts her skirt and does everyone. But anyway. But as I'm saying is, you know, I mean, my friend has tried to breach that topic to fulfill his fantasy. It doesn't go anywhere so i didn't close the germaphobe thing i think definitely is the wall there i think uh honestly her faith has you know to be monogamous and i just don't think she's um compliant to that there, there is nothing wrong with that.

No, no, I just, you know, but that makes it tough. If you're in a relationship and you have these fantasies or desires, I mean, that's another valid question. Is a desire a fantasy or is it just a desire? Ah, could be. Could be a fantasy, sure. I think sometimes yeah, they can definitely bleed into each other for sure. If you have a desire there is definitely a fantasy. Until you fulfill the desire, it's still a fantasy. Can you still have a fantasy even if you fulfilled it? Sure. No, now it's not a fantasy. You fulfilled it. And now it's reality. Now it's something we do. Ah, I see.

I thought maybe you could still have a fantasy. Am I wrong with that? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, a fantasy is something that you dream of doing. Right. This is how I interpret it. You haven't done it yet. Yeah. But when it's something you do or can have done or can repeat then it's not a fantasy and it's like okay yeah we did that so what is it now it's you know part of the routine oh god oh yeah kind of took out the wind in my sails there a little bit now You have done threesomes, correct? Yeah. Okay.

But you have not yet done two black gentlemen yet no i have not that's a fantasy that will be definitely be a fantasy and we have the ability right now to set that up so once you do it will it be a fantasy i'll be an oreo cookie well okay but you didn't answer my question what i'm sorry i'm thinking about yeah see you're into the fantasy i'm in the fantasy okay but if you fulfilled that fantasy and is obtainable it's no longer a fantasy it's something it's a fantasy until you do it so fantasies aren't necessarily easily obtained if i said a fantasy taken out of the sexual room i have a fantasy of be getting a million dollars if you had a million dollars if i get a million dollars it's not a fancy i got it okay i see what you're saying i just now my next fantasy would be i want 10 million dollars aren't you greedy hey if i can get a fantasy to work what to find out how to run with him.

Exactly. It'd be stupid not to. Yeah. All right, there you go. Yeah, if I can get a fantasy to work, what the fuck? I'm going to run with it. Exactly. It'd be stupid not to. All right, there you go. If I said, you know, a fantasy at Cormen Electra, look at my balls, it's a fantasy until she does it. Okay. It's never going to happen, so it'll stay a fantasy. It's still a fantasy. Cormen, my address is... My email, my phone number.

You can reach me in yeah but you know I think that's one of the tough parts of fantasies in a relationship is the person you're with might not necessarily appreciate the fantasy that's a nice way of putting it. Yeah, they might outright reject you. That is pretty scary. And I think that's where a lot of the swingers, the couples, there are people that, in general, have the same fantasies. You know, like the couple that you did the BDSM stuff with. They might not necessarily both started out that way. One of them had to have the fantasy of being a dom. Right.

And then the other one, hopefully, or maybe either started out with a fantasy of being a sub or said, I'll entertain it. Yeah. But people in the lifestyle tend to be a little more, go with the flow. Yeah, they're definitely a lot more open to a lot of different possibilities. Even if they're not into it, they'll be like, well, we don't do that, but that's an interesting perspective. They'll at least entertain those kind of ideas. Really? Both fists? Okay. We only do one, but we you know, we'll entertain you. Honey, I never saw you as a two-fisted guy. Surprise, surprise.

I'll get the neighbor Butch to come over. Hold on. Butch? So-and-so, my husband needs your hands with something. Both fists, please.

We need help with, oh oh fuck no all right so i don't think so yeah it's um so yeah the fantasy world is is interesting and if you can achieve your fantasy to the degree you're hoping to that's great but i think in general I'm going to show fall a little short it'll still be fun you're still going to oh yeah hopefully enjoy it oh yeah and hopefully it's not a bait experience where you sit there go well fuck no i'm not going to ever try that again yeah exactly it depends what you're trying to do exactly that's You know, again, the, the two-fisted thing.

But anyway, you know, so, you know, we had experience more recently with a gentleman who wants to get into shooting content. Exactly. And when reality hit with his fantasy, he suffered a little bit. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot that gives him to shooting content. Great guy.

Oh, absolutely that gives great guy and work with him and see if we can get him through it but yeah sometimes the shooting content is it's not it's not romantic because it's bright lights on you so everybody can see what's going on every nook and cranny in our case there's a husband sitting there running cameras watching you you know well you're not really gawking you're not no i'm running cameras i'm not you know he's not like you know sit on the edge of the coffee table next to the couch going oh yeah oh yeah do that do the thing with your teeth yeah he's not doing that not doing that at all but but um yeah it's bright lights you have four cameras around you i mean me i'm playing to them i'm like okay we're which which camera's gonna be good again the fantasy in this case this fantasy and i think it'll become reality i just think he has to work through it a little bit um of being a porn star right exactly the concept of being a porn star is a lot of people's fantasy oh yeah and you know you have to be an exhibitionist put it simple if you're not an exhibitionist you won't yeah i you can get over that if you're you know on the edge you can you can would think.

Yeah, I mean, you know, can you go to a nude beach, walk around naked in front of everybody? Yep. Can you go out, if you're a man, can you go out on a nude beach and get a hard-on in front of people? You know, again, can you go play with a couple and have the husband watch you? And you, you know, there's a lot of, you know, it's videotaping yourself with your phone. Is not the same. Is not the same, no. So, but anyway. But yeah, the fantasy thing is, it's always an interesting, you know, you always want to plan.

It's like in my head i'll sit there and think of like a recipe i want to cook and in my head it tastes fucking incredible right and then i get done making it's like it's okay it's good i'll eat it and everything you know you know in my head i had more salt to it in my head it had more garlic or whatever but uh yeah so i get the same thing with sex too or fantasies why are you looking at me when you say that I don't know why are you looking at me when you say that? I have to look at somebody. I'll look at the dog. You definitely won't get more intelligent response from him, though.

Not from him. So that was the topic I thought would be of interest that people, you know, have fantasies and I don't think they always hand out the way they want them to. Yeah. I mean, I've even heard from other couples on the swingers groups that it's like, oh, I can't wait. This guy, I've been looking at his profile, I finally coordinate to fuck him and then after she fucks him or whatever, like, how'd it go? Yeah. He was, you know. Talked a good game.

He, you know, popped quickly or had problems getting there or didn't do much to me or, you know, he fucked and as soon as he popped, he dressed and left. I wanted to go two or three more times. You know, there's different things. All kinds of scenarios there can be not as good. So here's a question that I don't know the answer to. It just popped into my head. If you have a fantasy and you want to execute this fantasy, how can you ensure that the execution of said fantasy is going to have a positive outcome? Well, there's multiple answers. One, it depends on what the fantasy is. Exactly.

Keep it realistic. If you have a fantasy, you know, I want to fuck on top of a float in the Walt Disney parade. That's not going to really happen. Well, keep it realistic. It depends what it is. It depends on I'll see point is simple. You can sit there I mean, oh, okay, I want to fuck this guy. Well, he shows up, everything's going well. And also you a sudden you get to a fucking trolley horse. Oh, okay, you have to be flexible.

Yeah, I mean, you know, or all of a sudden, like there's one gentleman you like to play with and he was supposed to come over the other day and he calls you up and goes, hey, I got strep throat. Oh, strep throat, yeah. You know, that kind of shit. Okay, okay, shit happens. Yeah, it does. So keep it real. There's no guarantee.

guarantee no i think what you need to do is set the general scenario and not look at like every aspect right like okay well i want the sun to be coming through this window and you know i want uh you know the smell of the room to be i'm gonna go get a bunch of french vanilla candles and you know you go buy the candles and they smell like french vanilla when you don't like them but as soon as you like them they'll smell like a goddamn thing i'm just grabbing at straws exactly or you know you get to the hotel room and you know and you're laid down in the bed and you find out these are really rough sheets or they're stained from other people you know you sit there oh fuck yeah you know he takes the yeah you sit there and like okay it's like oh i'm gonna fuck him in the shower in this hotel room and you get there and the shower's small enough room for one person maybe it's like or all of a sudden you find out water's a horrible lubricant yeah or there's no hot water yeah you know no that never happens you're trying to fuck this guy and the people in the next room are like hey shut up over there keep the noise down yeah you know but i mean i mean there's a lot of things but there is no guarantee no there's no guarantee so unless your woman wouldn't have sex with me, then there's guaranteed no pleasure.

I mean pleasure. I am so satisfied. Yeah, I do. Here's another 20. That was being, I was quite sarcastic with that. Yes, you were. It wasn't hidden. It was quite fucking obvious. Thanks, I'm crying myself to sleep in my gargantuan pillow. But, yeah, there's no guarantee with a fantasy. No, I'm just thinking. You know, in all honesty, so my theory is fantasy is always better than reality. Yes, I agree. I just thought maybe there might be like... My dick is so much bigger than my fantasy. Oh, well, I can handle a much bigger dick in my fantasies too. Oh, there you go. Wow.

Why did you keep looking at me when you said that? Who else? Okay. At least you didn't say reality. I mean, I'm more limber. At least you could say. You know, I'm just more agile and more everything in my fantasies. But that's okay. I have just as many zits on my ass, don't I? In my fantasies, you don't. Oh, oh. Hey, baby. What are you doing later? I'm going to go pop some zits and we're going to play around. Anyway, I know that was hot. Total. I'm so wet now. This is so wrong.

Yeah, no, I mean, again, I think that the fantasies, for the most part, you can have them in a generic ballpark concept, but when you try to nail down, like, have a script, like, have a script, I think it can lead you to be very disappointed. Right, because you're trying to keep it within that confines of those specific things of that script. So, keeping it realistic, that'll help. Don't take it real elaborate.

I mean, like one of the little fantasies I have for you, and I've told you this, is, and we'll do it eventually, is shoot like a miniature, because when you did bachelor parties, you didn't do extras. Right, I did not. You know, the guys stayed dressed, you know, no penises were exposed or pleasured while in your presence, or my presence when I was bouncing.

but you know no no penises were exposed or pleasured while in your presence or my presence when i was bouncing um but you know i i would like to see you do like a small bachelor party dirty bachelor party basically it would be a small like gang bang basically turn into a gang bang i think it'd be hot i think it'd be pretty hot too you know and i gotta limber up for that one you know again i'm not going to get into the like okay first you're going to go dance with this guy and you're going to go do this and then this guy okay and this guy he's going to wear these kind of underwear okay and this guy you know yeah yeah you can't nail that down that's for sure you know you just try to make the best of it yeah and i still i still think there's I think it's, you know, you just try to make the best of it.

Yeah. And I still think there's a, go with the flow and keep it realistic. And I understand that there's going to be things that you can't control. So if you can nail it to, you know, then God bless you. I've never, none of my fantasies have ever, never reached what I had in my head, but that's okay, because what I have in my head is definitely unreachable, so, and I realize that, so I'm okay with that. Yeah, I can't get better looking, sorry. No, I'm just thinking about like, like when I think about doing threesomes or foursomes or gang bangs, you know, the flow is easier.

And then the logistics of those kind of things, again, is a lot more like juggling than anything else. And you still want to have fun and you're trying to have fun and you're trying to, if some things feel good, then you get uncomfortable and there's a lot of balls up in the air. So to speak. So to speak, yeah, you're right. Some are slapping against ass cheeks. Sometimes they were. Yep. Or... Chins. Chins. Or noses, depending on the angle. But it was still fun. It was still... You know, when I look back at the video, I still enjoy watching it. Sure. So, all right.

Well, that was kind of, I guess, the topic I wanted to cover. Yeah. You know, I kind of think that I was reflecting back on fantasies we've had and ones we've tried to say, hey, let's shoot this video or something or whatever. You know, and it's just like, well, that didn't turn out at all. No. It almost never does.

I never does unless we have some kind of hollywood fucking financing double okay you you're gonna fuck her for a minute 30 seconds and then you're gonna pull out and go yeah and every everybody has orgasms at the same time so it could be a great the perfect bukkake you know it just never happens never happens well yeah like that one, um, Thank you. And everybody has orgasms at the same time, so it could be a great, a perfect bukkake. You know, it just never happens. Never happens. Well, yeah, like that one blowbang you did. You know, there was five, four guys, four guys.

And, you know, none of them came at the same time. No, no. So. I don't think that was bad, though. I remember. No, it was so, you know, it wasn't like all of these bukkakes you'll see. Oh, they're all coming at the same time. Where they all come at the same time, and she looks like a glazed donut. Yeah, that didn't happen. But, you know, again, if you have 40 guys in a room and they're all jerking off, see, for me, I couldn't do that.

Being around a bunch of guys, like, bachelor party, sitting around a bunch of guys watching porn movies to me is wrong but that's me you know i don't need to sit next to a bunch of guys getting horny uh hey buddy you got a nice looking butt your dick as hard as mine i want to see how hard mine is and you can tell me no it's okay know, I might have to toss one before the dancers get here. But anyway, is that your plan over there? I didn't quite water it, but I did something else. You've got some fruit. Some of those off-sprout scrumaticals looking like me. I'm just saying.

Is that a creeper myrtle? Because now it's an impregnated myrtle so hey what do you want me to do with that you know i couldn't make it to the bathroom i was tossing pretty quick anyway sorry i went there yeah yeah here's a line right over it right over it so well again bachelor party is a whole other topic for another show. Yeah. Go over the bullshit that goes on there and the people. But I got a dog staring at me. I think I go out. So, but, yeah, so that was the whole fantasy thing I wanted to talk about. I kind of thought it was interesting.

And it's always been one of those little things for me. It's like, yeah, this is where I'd like it to be, and this is what reality is. It always is. It's never quite as good. And we've had some really good experiences that were really close to the fantasy, but never quite. You know, the best ones, like we talked about, is the spontaneous ones. Yes, I agree.

There agree if there is no well like you've only ever done one double penetration and that wasn't planned no no it wasn't and it worked we didn't even really shoot it i documented i don't know where that footage is um i caught on video but wasn't like it was set up in a scene exactly and it And it was like, damn. It's like, because you were like, okay, you know, roll the camera, but I just want to see, and again, your conversation with the stunt dicks wasn't, wasn't like. Wasn't high. Production ready. Exactly. And. We didn't know if it was going to work. Yeah.

You would care to see if you're going to punch somebody in the face or enjoy it. But the spontaneity, you wind up enjoying it. Exactly. And everything else. But it's like, okay, so that was kind of erotic because the spontaneity is erotic. Maybe that's what made it so erotic, the spontaneity, I'm sure. So sometimes, you know. Throw the fantasies out. Sometimes, you know, sometimes the fantasies can happen, you know, just by chance, you know.

If you're at a club, let's say, and you want to see your wife do a threesome, you know, to, if you see somebody, let's say that, you know, she kind of like, yeah, you know, he's kind of cute, yeah. Well, get her to play with him, then you go in and, you know, tell him, pick an end and I'll get the other one. Pick an end. You know, so. Then we spin her around. Yeah, you know, so. Anyway, so yeah, I think that exhausted that topic.

Yeah, so too and we've got dogs bugging us to go out so with that again i want to say we didn't say where people can follow you or email us you can email us at the podcast at hot wife podcast at gmail.com and if they wanted to see where you are all over the place they would go to uh it's all one word uh hot wife donnalyn.com that has all my links of all the platforms i'm on including this podcast so so you can email us and let us know i want to thank everyone who's listening our numbers keep growing which just keeps me scratching my head every week you say that and every week they grow so i'm thankful and i hope um maybe we're a little bit informative but i'm hoping we're also a little bit fun to listen to with the world being as crazy it is right now you need an outlet that's for sure yeah this is kind of our therapy too um so um you know you might think i'm funny or you might just think I'm an asshole.

Either way, I'm good with that. I know I do. I'm not going to say which one of those I think, but that's, yeah, I agree. I know, because as soon as I turn off this podcast, you go, asshole. I would never say that to your face. Yes, you do. Okay, okay. For a long long time i thought that was your pet name for me anyway so again i want to thank you and uh we will talk to you i will talk to you in the next podcast and i will too and this is donald signing off have a great night We'll see you next time.