The topic of sex and intimacy is one that is often misunderstood and overlooked in today's society. With the rise of hookup culture and casual relationships, the true meaning and importance of intimacy in a sexual relationship has become clouded. In this thought-provoking podcast, we delve into the complexities of sex and intimacy, exploring the differences between the two and how they intersect. We invite experts and individuals to share their perspectives and personal experiences, shedding light on the various aspects of this often taboo topic. From discussing the role of communication and emotional connection in intimacy to exploring the impact of societal norms and media on our understanding of sex, this podcast aims to spark meaningful conversations and challenge conventional beliefs. Join us as we navigate the blurred lines between sex and intimacy, and discover the power and beauty of true emotional and physical connection in our relationships.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hi, this is Donna Lynn and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. Hello everybody. This is Donna Lynn and welcome to the Welcome to my Hot Wife podcast. And Vince, what is that smirk on your face? I don't know. I'm just sitting here behind the microphone. He has like shitty ingrant on his face. I'm like, what is going on over there? No, I'm just sitting here kind of drinking my bourbon and chilling. It's actually really good bourbon. Excellent. The playmate that just left an hour ago.
He was kind enough to, you know. Bearing gifts. He brought both of us pleasure. Me a bottle of bourbon and you an orgasm or two or three or whatever it was. Or three or four. Whatever. Who's counting? Yeah, I'm not counting. It was all fun, all good. Got a chance to do something. Another unique custom video for somebody. And by unique, I mean had a very strange request, but whatever. It doesn't matter what I say. Kind of fun because I get to do a little bit of role playing. And this is kind of, it wasn't like that far out. You know what I mean? It didn't want me to be a chicken or.
Something really bizarre. So I was within my wheelhouse of just being someone who seduces other people, men and stuff. So it wasn't that far of a reach. Yeah, we've talked about the custom videos and fantasy thing before. It's always amazing to me. These individuals come through and they have very unique fantasy. And you can sit there and go, oh, yeah, I want to be with you.
two women okay that's generic enough we're talking about like well I want you to wear lime green nail polish and be wearing a fluorescent blue silver striped dress and your hair has to be three quarters of your hair has to be on one side and a quarter of your hair has to be on the other side your left eye has to have green eye shadow the other one has to have black eye shadow now you're getting a little crazy I sent that in to you why haven't you done it the cool thing is it's like at least this gives them a platform to exercise that kind of fantasy.
We've had people that are very distinct and, oh, right before you do this, I want you to say this. And two minutes into it, you do this. And then another three minutes from there, you do this. Like, really? Wow, sex with that person must be tough. It's like, well, we've been doing this for two minutes, 30 seconds. We have to do this now or I'm going to lose my boner. So whatever. I think it's when people try to explain press like what they want in the video. It's like a choreographer. It was like quick one, two, three, four swing, swing quick one, two, three, four.
The ones I love they'll be like okay I want you to be in this position for you know X amount and maybe then you can switch to this one and don't forget all the time I want realistic moaning. Really? Oh you're looking at your watch going five, four, three, two, switch. I can do both. I can do both. Yeah there are just some Sometimes I just... You almost need a coach on the sidelines. Come on, Donna, pick it up. Let's go. Put that dick in your mouth. Come on. Hurry. Stop. Quick, climb on top. Climb on top. Anyway.
But it is nice that they get to have their little fantasy played out for you, which is kind of cool, you know, and especially when I get an email back saying, oh my God, that was the hottest thing. It just drives home to point I'm not as weird as you make me out to be. In some aspects. Okay, in some aspects. I'll give you that one. Yeah, there's others that obviously I'm fucked up. Sometimes. Therapists go. They're shaking their heads. Nothing helping you. Sorry. Too much to get. I'm going to encourage you with suicide. Oh, God, stop it. I actually think, yeah. Yeah.
This is what you want to do. We don't need you on this planet. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Thanks, Doc. That's what I'm going to do. Right off. there. Thanks for the heads up. You want to reach out to us? Hotwifepodcasts at gmail.com. If you want to see what Donna's doing. It's hotwifedonnalyn.com. See all the fun content I'm making and have the fun I'm having and have the orgasms. You want to see the free Swinger magazine we put out, the 50shadesofpleasure.com. There's three issues. I'm working on the fourth one now. By all means, check it out. It's on mobile device on your computer.
Just go to 50shadesofpleasure, spell out 50, dot com. Like I said, there's three of them. They're free. Email us there or whatever. If you want to write or contribute, we'd love to have you. Spunk Lube. I do Spunk Lube. I even used some today. Yes, you did. I did. Hey, when you need that kind of just a little bit more, like it just felt better with just something a little bit slippery on his cock. You ought to see the hand gestures. I'm like milking his cock. He's massaging his dick right now. I'm sorry.
And it was, I'm glad I did deliberately left it right on the table because, you know, it's like, sometimes you don't need it, but every once in a while we just need a little something, something. And I was like, yep, perfect. Grabbed that, rubbed it on his cock. And it was just enough to like, so when I stroking him, it really got him hard again, which was like really cool because it was kind of like after things had gone into like a lull. So it was like, okay, I got to get you back. into the groove again. So it was, it was fun. It was, it lasted pretty long. Yeah.
And then you got a second wind. And then we got a second wind out of him, which was, he had spunk loop on his penis and you were massaging it. And he's like, Oh, I can go again. And this is a guy's sixties. Yeah. He's no youngster. Yeah. Well, neither way. So yeah, that's true. In fact, I'm actually older than, I am older than him. Right. Yeah. A little, by a teeny. Maybe a year. Yeah.
So I, I get it, but it was, the thing was like when I was sucking him off at the end I was like cleaning him up and I was going to just like you know just enjoy that and let that be the end but he started getting hard again and it's like all right let's just keep going so that was all just happened like organically you know orgasmically orgasmically it ended up being so that was that was really cool you know because I wasn't planning on that he didn't seem to hate it too much no no and he kept getting harder and harder and I was like I was like well I'm not gonna stop now I don't I don't care.
Let's just keep going. This is fun. This is, you know, exactly. And he, I mean, he was like lifting his hips up into my face every time I, it was like, I thought he must've come like, or I thought he was ready to come like four times. Like he like lift up his hips and like squinch his like butt together. I wasn't looking that into it. No, I guess you weren't, but it was, um, It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. I got a chance to do something a little different and have somebody who was compatible. Yeah, and you haven't played with him in almost a year. Yeah, it's been a long, long time.
Yeah, cool. That was fun. All right, so the topic, you came up with this topic weeks ago. Mm-hmm. And it's been sitting in your phone for us to talk about. We just came up with other topics. Came out with better ones, but here we are. Okay, so this topic is...
and versus sex and there is a difference there's absolutely a difference okay intimacy okay i'm just going to give my quick how i feel it is not a world yeah it's it's not a dictionary version of it you have 10 seconds okay okay see sex can be a part of intimacy but intimacy does not necessarily need to be a part of sex i can be intimate with somebody without having sex. Oh, intimacy is a broader word. Much broader. Broader intimacy. You could have an intimate conversation. Intimate conversation. That's right. Yeah. And I think that there is a crossover, you know, it's like that whole thing.
There's a overlap where sex can be intimate and there's a conversation where intimacy can be sex. Right. Yeah. I think. Sex can include intimacy, but, you know. Okay, well, define intimacy for me. Your definition. My, just how I feel. It is a much broader term. You're right. It includes so many different facets of people, not just physical, sexual. It also includes. Yeah, I can't say Bob and I had a sex talk the other day. I can say that. We didn't. You can say that. You know where I can say we had an intimate conversation. An intimate conversation. You know.
Which is not necessarily romantic or anything else. Doesn't necessarily need to be. Now, does intimacy cover romance? Oh, geez, that is a good question. That's my job. You ask tough questions. Answer it in the form of a question. Well, that would be a tough one. Geez, yes. I mean, it's all a part of that. I mean, it's... Yes, there is romance. Romance can contain sex, too. It can. But I think... atypical what a woman, I'm thinking from a woman's point of view that intimacy and romance is very, you have no penis. I have no penis. It is very, it is more romantic.
There is a lot more that the being lavished with all kinds of, you know, I'm going to use a stereotype like the pedals on the floor type of a feeling, you know, that kind of a, I don't, I don't know. If somebody like threw pedals on the bed, I would be like, what the hell is going on? But you know what I mean? That kind of, You wasted good flowers. That would be something. I would say, I could just kill a romantic mood just like that. Tell me about it. Just like that. Oh, I got proof. I know you do. That's the problem. You do have proof. Okay, so intimacy is, define intimacy. In a sentence.
No, what's your definition of intimacy? I thought we just went over this, but okay. We kind of diverted a little bit. Let's go clean shot at it. Okay. Like I said, intimacy includes all the facets that make up a person, including the sexual one. But there's so many more things that make up a person that intimacy can be a part of. Like you said, with conversation, the verbal intimacy, there could be psychological intimacy. Like you said, the romance might not even... put a tinge in that. See, it's almost like a kaleidoscope of colors.
All these emotions, they all kind of like bleed into each other. So for me to say, oh, intimacy is this, this, and this, it's like, well, it's kind of a meld of all these different things that make up a person. And sexuality is one small teeny weeny little, you know, wedge of it when we're so much more and all this, how I relate to you without sex being on the board can be more intimate in how I touch you. I'm going to cry. Wow. You shouldn't be stoned when you do this. No.
Like if I just come up and just like touch your shoulder or how I just come up and you kind of like rub my back, just like, just thinking of impulse. That is more to me, more intimate than sex. Can I sum it up a lot shorter than you? Okay. Go for it. And I won't cry. Okay. You're about to cry. You're about to cry. Okay. Intimacy involves emotions and feelings.
sex doesn't oh god you just yeah you just hit the nail right on their freaking head I went around this whole big thing and you know it's a great picture you painted it's the truth but you know if you go to a bar and you pick up somebody and you go someplace and you have sex that's what you're having sex right you know now if you meet with them again and again right it could develop into intimacy sure It absolutely could. I mean, technically intimacy can evolve into sex and sex can evolve into intimacy. They can. Yes. Like I said, they meld. There's a lot of overlap. They can change and morph.
Venn diagram. I don't want to do that. But yeah, no, it's intimacy is when emotions get involved. Yes. And feelings and stuff like that. Absolutely. And that's where you go from sex to making love. And that's kind of what we've talked about with the whole swinging world. Yeah. is you can have sex with other people. Exactly. Yes. But you don't make love to other people. No. Although we have heard swingers that say that they are making love to their playmates. There are people, and we know some. About the polyamorous.
Well, not just polyamorous, but people that have been friends, I'll use that term, for a long time, and they've played together for years. Yeah, then there is a love aspect there. Yeah, there's a certain... Trusk. admiration, you know, so it becomes a lot more intimate. You know, like the people who host a party, they have a few friends that they play with on a regular basis and people that spend days there with them and that's great. There's nothing wrong with that.
But yeah, it's, I think that's the major difference where at the party or a party or a club or wherever you could meet somebody and know them for 15 minutes and just go, yeah, they're hot. I'd like to go fuck them or be fucked by them or whatever the hell you do. Right. Right. You know, it doesn't involve any intimacy. No, no, you're absolutely right. You know, and that, I mean, I guess that's the way I, I would, my definition of it is one has emotions tied to it. but there's times that a couple who's been together, whatever, there's times you have sex and there's times you make love.
Intimacy is not every time. No, no. With everybody. And even with a well-established relationship, it still goes into sometimes you just want that raw, down, dirty sex. I'm horny. Get over here, honey. Fuck the shit out of me. Okay, well, we're going to wrap this up. Well, you know what I'm saying. You know exactly what I mean.
And then there's other times where there's a lot more caressing and kissing and you know see this is again another i'll call it a segue for lack of a better term like we've talked about people who can't especially women can't separate you know love from sex well and that's what it is there's no i mean and you've already talked about how because a woman is being penetrated um there tends to be a lot more emotion tied into it think about it your having somebody else's appendage actually go into your body. You have a lot more skin in the game. Literally.
I don't like my doctor, but I go and I get prostate exams a lot. Two times a week. Okay, so maybe you do know that feeling. No, I feel violated, but it doesn't call, it doesn't kiss. I know, it's just awful. It's the same thing. You're giving of yourself and this doctor's just taking advantage of you. And then I gotta pay him for it. Oh, what the hell's wrong with that? That's like reverse tour. It is. It is. I feel so cheap. Yeah. I'm going to cry. You're going to be violated and you're going to be paying for it. And you're not going to like it. It's like, oh, that is brutal. That is torment.
Doc, do you have to check it with every finger? Isn't just one good enough? Can you take your watch off first? Typical things, you know, yeah. But yeah, as a woman. But for women who can separate that intimacy and sex, And men, you know, again, we've kicked this horse to death, I think, at some points. Yeah, I think so, too. But the jealousy aspect, man or woman, if you really think your mate is going to leave you because they were given an orgasm by somebody, then there's something a lot more wrong with your relationship. Yeah, and, you know, we have said that a thousand times.
It's still true. Yeah, it hasn't changed any. Well, it's our opinion. Yeah, it is. For us. We're professionally nothing. Yeah. you got that right. But we just see it in other relationships. We can look around and see what other people's relationships are going through that, you know, they lack that bond intimacy has and the relationship was weaker for it and of course somebody got interested somewhere to somewhere else and their relationship is not a phone. And they want to pawn it off on the aspect, oh, they cheated on me. Okay, let's back up a few chapters here. What made them cheat on you.
They were looking for something that you weren't giving them and it wasn't just sex. No. They might be looking for that intimacy. Exactly. You know, sex is, you know, you might go fool around one time with someone to have sex. It's like, oh my God, I had to get that off. Yeah, yeah. You know. I don't know what that's like. But, you know, if you're looking for intimacy, you know, then there's a lot more wrong. You're stating where the state of your relationship is. Yeah, that's very true. That's harsh, but it's true. And you're right.
We've seen it in other, just as an onlooker to other people's relationships, and the person is cheating. You're right. It's not just about the sex we're getting from somebody else. They're getting something else. And it's, you know, how do you mend something like that? That's, I guess, what always comes down to me. Can you fix that relationship? You know? Well, to fix any relationship, both people in the relationship have to recognize that there's a problem and both have to want to fix it. Both have to be willing to change. Yeah, that does make sense.
And if you don't have those three things, it's not going to go anywhere. Okay. So let me ask you now, what can couples do to add intimacy? Wow. I'm trying to think of things that, we do to add intimacy. I don't smack you around all day. All day. Let the bruises heal a little first. Yeah, yeah. I mean, my God, you know, people might start to talk. They might be like, oh, he really loves her. Look at those bruises. You know, she's into that. She's one of those. No, I love holding your hand at night. You know, just the more of those intimate, just like, randomized of kindness.
I guess that's the easiest way to put it. Just like you come by and you like touch my shoulder or in bed where like we instinctively reach out to hold hands. You know, and I like holding your hand at night and it's little things like that. Those seemingly innocent touchings that mean so much more. You know, just as you go by your mate, you know, just pat her on the butt or, you know. If she likes that. Some women get offended by that. Oh, whatever it That's how you do it. If you wind up and like... Some kind of touching, I guess. I'm just being more specific, but some kind of random touch.
Well, I touch the back of your head and make you suck my dick. See, that would say so much to me. See? See, the intimacy, Vince. I sit here and tell you, stop, try even. Just put it in your mouth. Yes, the romance is not dead here, folks. Not even a little bit. Yep, okay. But, I mean, it's those little things. Like, you do a little kindness for me. You come into the bedroom with a cup of coffee. every once in a while when I happen to sleep. If I'm up before you? Yeah, yeah. Just little things like that. If you need to sleep, I let you sleep.
Those little things, I think, help instill those little acts of intimacy. I appreciate you pumping me up here, but I wasn't asking, like, what do I do? No. I was just saying. No, that just happens to be the things that my... I don't know what other couples do to increase their intimacy. I have no clue. This is what I see that is going on in our relationships that I find very positive, And it's something that's easily to, it's easy to do. I don't have to really think about it. I can just come up and I like giving you that random kiss and it makes the dogs nuts. They cannot hug or kiss.
So we have to like, we have to have our love on the run. It has to be on the down low. Nobody can know about our love. They come like right between us. So we're like, we have to be on the slide. I can like give you a little kiss and a little hug. It's like, and I watch, Oh, is he looking? Is he? Oh, no, good. I can get some more hugs. It's a, it's, There's those stupid little things that give us that bond. We're both chuckling over it because of something that we do every morning. It's a little fun. We tie the dogs up outside. It's like, finally, a long time. Yeah, it's true.
I mean, somebody has to find their... Oh, I want to steal a quote from waiting, but I don't know if anybody's going to understand it. Everybody needs your own, and this is a quote from the movie, your own penis showing game. And if you ever watch the movie, it is the quintessential, the thing that makes you... want to pursue your life, that ball, that energy, whatever that is, that penis showing games that made everything in your life really work well.
Like he was talking about in reference to the movie, how the clientele had gone down, blah, but he created this penis showing game, which made everybody more engaged, more intimate. Bonded them. That's the whole thing. And then everything's picked up. So in essence, everybody else needs to find their own penis showing game. that does our bond, our stupid sense of humor and little tricks we play on each other. That's our penis showing game. Stealing my pillows. You know, it's every now and then. I catch you, man. I go to lay down. I'm like, oh, I said something smart to him.
My pillow is going to be so gone. Do other couples have this? I have no idea. I just know it really works for us. I crack up every time. I try to explain to people the pillow, the pillow is stealing. I've been there when you've talked. And people are like, they just shake their head. Like, I have no idea what you're talking about. It's like, okay, that's just our little, our banter, our fun, our little game that we play. The same banter we have on the show. We have all the time. Oh, it gets worse sometimes. This is nothing different. This is no act or whatever. Oh, God knows.
This is how we are. It's a sad truth. Yeah, but it's our penis showing game. It's our penis showing game. Again, like you said, there's a movie called Waiting. Don't see Waiting 2 or whatever it is. But just see Waiting. It's old. It's with Ryan Reynolds and Justin Long. I think it was like 2000 or something. Yeah, it's really old. It's a corny, funny movie. I'd say it's an equivalent of back in the 80s. It was old comedy. You used the term Lucy kind of thing. But it's really good. But check it out. It's an interesting movie.
If you ever worked in the restaurant chain business, the chains, though. I worked at a... Can I say the name? Yeah. The Denny's. I was a dishwasher. You're not bashing. No, no. I just worked there. And I was a dishwasher overnight. I did the graveyard shift. So like all those scenes there, I'm going, yes, that was us getting high in the walk-in cooler. I mean, that was us. It was terrible. It was just, we were like the worst bunch on the graveyard shift. And that movie was just rang with me because of that. Getting back to the topic. Sorry. No, no, that's fine. That's fine.
fine i think one of the things that makes our relationship so unique and special is um we were best friends before we were anything you know that that's another type we had built we had built this banter up before there was anything as well as trust and and we had it again an intimacy even well i think again again speaking the couples or people you know people someone single looking to be a couple I think one of the most important things in a relationship besides communication, besides trust, those two are the top things.
And again, with what I'm going to say, it ties right in with them, is your significant other, whatever that may be, needs to be your best friend, needs to be someone you want to spend as much time with as you can get. I think you've said that quite a few times. You should be anxious to get home from work to talk to them or see them. Mm-hmm. You know? to call them once during the day while you're at work, if you can, and just say, hey, how you doing? I was thinking about you. How's your day going? See, that's all that intimacy, that constant... Well, and that's what I'm getting at.
Touching it, as it were. The best friends part of a relationship, again, as much as we like to talk about the activities in the bedroom, you spend far more time with your significant other outside the bedroom. We've said that before, too. Yeah, we have. So, you know, when you see couples that are out there, to eat and they don't say two words to each other. You know, when they're walking around the stores and they're not really talking or whatever, it's just like, you know. Yeah. That always makes me sad. Yeah. In the meantime, you can't shut me the fuck up. That's fine. I don't mind.
But no, I mean, if you're not married yet, make sure the person you marry, and again, I went through this with my daughter. She's now separated and unfortunately and living with us unfortunately and puts a clip in the style. Yeah, she really does. I had told her that, you know, before you marry someone, make sure that you're as close to as 100% compatible as you can be because as you grow, the person you are at 25 is not who you are at 30. Who you are at 30 is not at 35 and so on. Well, ain't that the truth. You're preaching to the choir here with that one. And you will grow apart.
Just the severity in which you separate is different according to the couple. You know, both of you have a factor in that separation of, you know, how you grow. And I think weird enough, I'm not trying to toot our horn, but I think we've grown closer. Well, see. I think our, our degrees of separation are probably less now than when we got together. Oh, I agree a hundred percent. We're almost, we're with each other quite, quite a bit, both of us working from home. That has a lot to do with it. And I think other couples have that to deal with that help.
The, I should say it hurts being intimate because if you're working like all kinds of weird schedules, you don't see each other. So we're just really lucky that you all have to own your part of the relationship. You may have to jump that extra everything, but anyway, um, Yeah, so make sure that the person you, if you're going to be getting married or whatever, is as close to 100% as you can get. And again, really evaluate the time outside the bedroom, not in the bedroom. The in the bedroom helps, don't get me wrong, that's the whipped cream on the ice cream. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
But sometimes you don't have to have the whipped cream. Sometimes things happen to people and all of a sudden sex is off the table completely. No whipped cream. Oh. I'll go get some. Yeah. You're right. You're absolutely right. Make sure you're as close to center as you can be. Well, here's one quick question. I was just thinking, we were talking about this, and I hope this isn't too off base. I think, too, that when people get together and maybe there's something about them that doesn't quite click or maybe it's like an annoyance, they always think the other person is going to change.
If I marry him, he's going to change for me. And I think that's definitely. You're not changing anybody. You might, but they're going to, it's going to be destructive. Yeah. Well, I think it's a natural. Unless you're changing them because like, well, I know he's got drug habit. Okay. Something like that. Stop smoking. But since we've been living together, I won't say out before that. I think I've changed so much to kind of, not accommodate you. That would be the wrong word, but you know, tolerate me. There you go. That's the word I was looking for. Thank you very much.
And you had to, you know, kind of make some minor changes to deal with my annoyances. And he has told me several times, like, Donna, you're annoying me. Right? It was just, yeah, that we were shooting together. I don't sugarcoat it. You're being annoying. That's, you know, that's what people either love me or hate about me. I will not piss on your back until you're training. Alrighty then. I guess I'll have to change my behavior. Tell you to calm down. Stop stressing small stuff. True. Matching glasses. I like matching drinking glasses. It's important. It is. It's one of my fetishes. Okay.
So that's our topic. Our ramble on it? No, it's important. I mean, don't confuse sex for intimacy. No. Intimacy should be your ultimate goal in a relationship.
In a swinging relationship, scenario you just want sex yeah sex and and people that you like you don't have to like it's just sex I mean usually you like them there's a chemistry yeah it's your call yeah there's usually something there there is you know people that you enjoy playing with that I don't necessarily care for but it's fine I don't have to touch them and you don't and I don't that's fine all right But, you know, so, yeah, so this isn't just swinging kind of thing. This show is also for the monogamous relationships. I think it could help across the board, actually.
But, yeah, it's, intimacy is far more important than the sex. I couldn't agree more. The sex is good, you know. Like you said, it's the chariot on the cake. Yeah. It's the whipped cream. But that's off the table. You're right after the cake. If you really just want something light and airy that doesn't really sustain anything but sugar, go for the sex. But if you want... And there's time just for whipped cream. Oh, okay. Swinging parties, that's all you want. You're there for whipped cream. I'm literally there for whipped cream.
But what you do and talk about with your significant other, that's the intimacy. I mean, like we've talked about again, you know, you play with others at the parties or shooting stuff or whatever. It's all erotic and fun. You have fun and everything else. But then when you and I get together and play after all that and you get de-woused, you know, then it's more erotic. We talk about how, what was it turned on to you? What was it turned on to me? And it pulls us closer. I agree. It does make, increases the intimacy. Absolutely. Yeah. It absolutely does. So. I think we've beat this one.
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