Secret Swinger Lust

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. It's time to rock, live your wildest dreams. Hot White Podcast, breaking all the norms. Open discussions about the swing and fall. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot White Podcast. Of course, on the other side of the room is my wonderful husband, Vince. I have a little something to do with it. Yeah, I know the technology and the technical aspects. Oh, that's the little something you're talking about, not the other little something. No, that's not little. Well, today's going to be a very special podcast because we have some very special guests. We have Johnny and Louisa. Louisa. Yeah. And they're coming to us from Denmark. You're coming from Denmark. Oh, my goodness, yes. That's what my husband was telling me. I'm like, wow. That's like an hour drive. Well, it's the best if you fly there. It's like a half hour if you fly. Yeah, okay. But they have a very special swinger platform that they would like to talk about. So welcome, guys. I'm glad you're here. I don't know anything about this, so please introduce yourselves and the name of the platform. And yeah, let's hear about it. Let's get into this. this. I think this is going to be fun. Thank you. Yeah. We are Johnny and Luisa, the couple behind secretswingerlust.com, a brand new website that was invented like 10 years ago. And then it has just taken us a long time to create the environment for it to go online now. It has actually been online for the last eight years as a blog. and where we have talked about clubs, swinger clubs, swinger resorts, and have had a few million readers on that website. So now we're just ready to launch a full-scale platform where we have profiles, we have the dating platform, we have all the reviews of clubs, resorts all over the world. And we also have people from all over the world that is reading our blog and listening to the podcast and everything like that. So now we're ready to launch this platform. Wow, that sounds exciting. And it's more than just a, again, you have a blog going on in there, if I remember right. Yeah. That's what it sounds like, yes. Yeah. So it's like most websites are just, you know, So you're going to be bringing a lot more to the table? Oh, yeah. And it's not that we are creating everything because we cooperate with everybody. So if a blog want to be on our website or a podcast want to be on our website, it's free for them to be on our website because we just want everybody to hear and listen to everything about being a swinger and how it is to be a swinger. and, you know, inspired the whole community because we have been swingers for 10 years. And when we started, it was pretty rough due to we didn't know anything about it. And it was hard to find anything about it. So now we just wanted to create a platform where people could be inspired, be, you know, have the knowledge about what is this before they go into it, like as a young couple. Yeah, even older couples. I think there's a big misnomer that I'm sure your site's going to help alleviate. Some people think that maybe being a swinger helps if you have a marriage that's in problems. They're going to learn it doesn't necessarily fix a marital problem. No. We've actually created a few blogs about that. Don't go into the swinger. just because you have trouble in your marriage, that you have to be in a good place in your relationship before becoming a swinger. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think the swinging, and I know Vince and I have talked about this many times on the podcast, that the swinging has actually made our relationship stronger because, well. But we had a healthy relationship. We had a healthy relationship prior. Healthy by our definition. Okay, by our definition. Okay. But I think it just made us closer. Because after we play, then we play with each other. It's very erotic because we talk about it. We experience it. He says what he thought was so hot about it. And of course, I tell him what I thought was hot. And it's just kind of a closeness. Like we're closer than we were before. Yeah, definitely. And we have the same experience that it has brought us so much closer after we became swingers and open to talk about everything. Yeah, that's true. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Were you guys going to say something? I was going to say. The thing is, when we started in Scandinavia, It wasn't a big thing in Scandinavia at the time, 10 years ago. And then we started to talk about it. We started to blog about it. We started to be public about it. And the last 10 years, we have actually met a lot of people that have started swinging and it has become really big in Denmark right now. And the rest of Europe is very big and have been it for 20 years. So something is right about it. I think the secret to being a good swinging relationship is communication and trust. I agree. Communication definitely and trust and honesty. Honesty and be honest with what your desires are. I know Vince has different desires than I have so he gets to experience what he likes to experience and I get to experience what I want to experience and then we can come together and talk about it and enjoy each other without feeling intimidated. I like to dabble a little bit in the BDSM world, you know, just minor things, restraint, flogging, you know, nothing real crazy. He's not into it at all. But he allows me to experience, you know, that, you know, with other people in a safe environment. And then we get to enjoy each other. And I don't have to feel like, oh, I can't fulfill my My fantasies, because he's not into it. It's not a big deal. We kind of can go our own ways a little bit and come back and enjoy each other. Yeah. You guys have like the same? Yeah, it's the same with us because I like it more soft, vanilla, and he's more hardcore. Oh, okay. Hardcore. Yeah. So, yeah, we had some and some talks about that and yeah, it is nice that I can go out and enjoy that side that I love and he can go do what he loves and then we can come together and talk about it and his experiences and my experiences. Yeah. Yeah, it really brings us closer that we're not holding each other back, but we're talking about it and enjoying it. That's true. That's very true. And I think I think that there's such a much stronger trust level in the swinger community in general because you can talk about it. Nothing is left on the table. Vince and I talk about everything that maybe vanilla couples never talk about. They may never talk about their most intimate desires that might be considered taboo or you might think your partner would be turned off by it or offended by it. But not in this community. I can talk to anybody about just about anything, and they may not be into it, but they're going to be accepting of it. You know, they're going to be, hey, I'm glad you're into that. I may not be, but hey, you do you. And that's okay, and I like that. Yeah. Absolutely. And we really feel that a lot of people that is experiencing it in a class, or an event, they see it instantly, what it does to a couple. Because we have a lot of vanilla friends that become swingers. And as soon as they try it, as soon as they start talking to each other about it, they love it. Oh, that's great. So I'm actually curious. Like you said, this was eight years in the development. So tell us the history of what made you use the concept, up to the site, the development of it, and even eventually, where do you foresee it going? Oh, yeah. We started out having a trip international, and this trip was to experience an international swinger club. And we have been searching on the internet, trying to find the best club, the wildest club, everything we would like to experience. And we went down there and we were so disappointed. They ripped us off for about $200, came into the club. It was terrible. There was no people. Everything was bad. And that night, we actually decided that nobody, no couple should spend their time. It took us about eight hours to drive down there. So they shouldn't spend a whole day driving down there, spend $200, box on it and then have a bad experience somebody had to do something about it and that was where it all started in the car on our way back home that we needed to make a website where that you can trust that if you see a club and we have rated it a gold club you can drive down there and you can have a great time so we just did it and for the last six years we've been driving around the whole europe and in the US, traveling around, trying clubs, raided them all. And every time we raid one club, we have been to four or five or six because there is a lot of bad clubs out there. So that was actually what it was all about is to make sure that nobody had that experience where we just spent. We had so much excitement to go out as a young swinger couple to try this and was so disappointed. Oh, that's a shame. We've never had good luck with clubs either, so we're right there with you. We've only been to, they were actually, they were, I can't really call them clubs. Maybe they were parties, like the one Halloween party. My husband knows exactly what I'm talking about. It was awful. Well, it was awful because. Let's not get it. We've already talked about the show. Yeah, I know. We've talked about it many times. But yeah, no. Yeah, it was, I don't want to do that again. It was. But I've heard from a lot of couples exactly what they're saying. Is there some clubs? that are great, and there's some clubs that just... I'm not going to say the club is bad. It just might not be the venue for a certain couple. It's like restaurants. That's true. You go to one restaurant, and you might think it's great, but somebody else says it's horrible. Yeah, I guess it depends on what you're looking for. Everybody's got their own expectations. I don't doubt some of them are horrible. Yeah, we just never had that. And that's also why when we find a club we don't like, we never talk about it because maybe somebody likes it but those clubs we like and we think is is setting the the is setting the having the settings for a great night that is the club we want to promote want to show other people how how nice they are because that in in europe there is like i don't know 20 000 clubs there is clubs everywhere so it is In the US, I know there's not that many, but in Europe, they are everywhere. So it's very important for us to show the best clubs over here. And also in the US, now we have been there. Yeah, you're right. There are not very many clubs that I can think of near us, where it might be one in Philadelphia or two in Philadelphia. One thing I said about the United States is we're one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world, but we're the most They're most uptight sexually. Yes, we are. And if they would just relax again. I'm very sorry to agree with you, but you have to. Yes, it's true. It's true. If these uptight assholes would just go get laid, you know what? It would be a better world, you know? I mean, let's just, come on. Everybody just go get an orgasm and then calm down, all right? Even our vanilla friends, they don't know we're swingers. I'm talking about the ones up on the hill, and they'll be like, yeah, we found out that so-and-so is a swinger. That's sick. And Vince and I look at each other like, oh, if he only knew. Yeah, how can you have sex with somebody else? There's something wrong with them. And Vince, we're like, oh, I don't know how to respond to them. In my head, I'm like, how can you not have sex with other people? Yeah. They're like, oh, they only knew. If they only knew. I don't want them to know. No, we just... Oh, yeah, that's just awful. How could people do that? Well, we could show you some videos. Lots of videos. But a lot of those people, we meet them too. And a lot of those people, it's because they don't know what they're talking about or they don't want to admit it. Yeah. Or they're too insecure with their relationship. We talked to one couple, this is years ago, and we told them we were swingers, and the woman looked at her boyfriend, and I don't think they were married, and she goes, you do that, I'll cut your dick off. And I'm like, oh, there's somebody who's very, very insecure. Such a romantic. Yeah, such a romantic. I think I got to work on their pillow talk a little bit there. But yeah, that's all insecurity, and if you're insecure, swinging may not be for you. So, with the website, I dabbled into it a little bit. I didn't get a whole lot of time, unfortunately. I'm going to be doing that this afternoon. Like, you can put up profile pictures. Are there limits to what you can post? No, not really. I mean, everything that is sexual, everything that is nude is fine. It's actually what we would love people to put out there. As long as you are nice to each other in there. Because we're putting a lot of effort into not being, how to say, bullying each other, talking bad to each other. We do not accept that. We will actually kick people out for being like that. Or talking bad about how people look in there. If you don't have anything nice to say, you shouldn't say it at all. Yeah. No, it's exactly the truth. Yeah, it's, I've always, you know, the one site we belong to currently, you know, they, I thought one of the things that they should add is not a negative button, but if you see someone's picture and you like it, that you can give it a star or a thumbs up. All positive. You know, but not a negative one. You know, if it's someone you don't find attractive or whatever, you know, just move on. Don't look, you know, but if you see someone who has a profile picture that is well done, is a very pretty person, or whatever, something you admire, you should be able to give them a pat on the back, like, hey, very nice. And we actually have that. You can actually like it, and you can also comment it. As long as you're nice, you can comment to the picture to show people that you actually like them. You can also follow their profile if you really love them, like them. So, I mean, what we're trying to create here is actually, I wouldn't say a social media for swingers, but it is something where you can show the profile, you're interesting, and you like them. Yeah, it's kind of a community building website. So yeah, it has a social media aspect to it, but yet the swinger website aspect to it. So I think it's a great marriage. I mean, I won't even charge you, you know, any royalty fees for stealing my idea. Listen to him. Thank you so much for that. I'll give you that one. The next one. Oh, thanks. You're going to listen to him. Just make them coming. Oh, my goodness. No, it's exciting. He's a prankster. And again, we're going to promote you all the time. Again, right now the website is? Hold on. It's secretswingerlust.com. Okay, guys. Check it out. I can't wait to start putting them out. Give a plug so if someone's listening right now and they go, well, what is it? So, yeah, check that out. What does it cost to join in American money? Right now, the price is in America. Now, I just need to make totally sure. That's fine. Take your time. But it is around 11 bucks a month. Okay. Oh, that's very reasonable. Now, do you have a lifetime membership fee yet? No, we don't have that because we cannot say that we'll be around forever. So what we do is we have a monthly fee. You can be there for free. No problem. There'll be some limitations, but you will still have a great working website. Great. But it will cost around 11 bucks a month to be a member. That's cheap. And have all the unlimited. And I encourage the people in the United States to get on the Tell your friends about it. Let's make it as big as some of the other ones. And actually, let's make it bigger. Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. I mean, there's aspects already, as we've talked about, that I think are superior to some of the major ones that we have talked about in the past. And, you know, so again, I think we all get behind and jump on the site. You can post different things. You can get positive comments. I like that. You know, you'll be able to hear our podcast on there. That could be scary. That could be a little scary. If they make the mistake to listen, then it's not our responsibility. Well, what I like about it is what you said before, Johnny, that it's all positive. Like, if you want to comment on something, if it's a positive comment, great. If it's negative, no. I get it. That's what actually makes a lot of sense. So it's all positive, all reinforcement. There's no negatives. There's no bashing. There's, you know, like you said, no bullying. Yeah, I like that a lot. And especially when there's enough negativity in the world. And it's nice to have a community that embraces people's individuality. Because, you know, sex, like anything else, is very individual. You know, like, Louisa, you like it, you know, tender and soft. And, you know, Johnny, you're more hardcore. And see, that's the beauty. And nobody's going to be like, oh, well, you guys are, you know, Johnny, that's, we just can't have that. That's hardcore is just not right. And, you know, I like a community that kind of embraces our individuality. because we are so different and it's nice that we can recognize that in each other and support each other and still, you know, not be frowning on other people's differences. As long as everybody's of age and it's legal and all that, everything is to what you like. People have to understand, not everyone is going to be as gorgeous as I am. Oh, well, there you go, Vince. That's why he couldn't even be on the video because he's so gorgeous. The camera would break. The video camera would just... Oh, yeah. I have to wear an ugly costume and go out. And actually, the positive thing about this platform is also that if you see something you don't like, we have a simple little button named hide, where you can hide a profile, so you don't have to look at them. Or if somebody is talking to you in a way you don't like you can just hide them then they will disappear for each other those two profiles forever oh great now my wife's going to do that to me on the profile i would not do that to you well maybe behind your back can i hide my husband on my profile he bothers me yeah because sometimes somebody might not be to your liking or you don't like what they're doing for whatever reason and yeah why should you if they're not doing anything wrong if they're not being malicious or not being aggressive or bullying. It's just that you don't like what you see. Yeah. It's just hiding them. Then you don't have to worry about it. Sure. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. Because if let's say something is provoking you, we don't want to provoke people. And that's why we are actually saying if you don't like what you're seeing, don't look at it. Yeah. You can do it simple with just hiding each other. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. I do that on the one One site we're on, theirs is just called block. And we get individuals that reach out to us that their first comment is rude. So I just block. Never see them again. You know, I'm not going to get into an argument with people with less brain cells than me. Yeah, I get it. Which I didn't think there was that many, but apparently there is. Yeah, it's just, you know, don't be negative. Don't be rude. You know, it should be all respectful. And the sad part is most of what we've encountered that was rude is the single man. Single men. Unfortunately, a few single men have ruined it for the really nice single men that are out there. And the nice single men that we've met, they're being ostracized because of the few bad apples. You know, the rude ones. I mean, they reach out to you and right off the bat, they're saying something crude to you. and talking about how they would defile you sexually. It's like, whoa, how about say hi? So let's get to know each other before you become verbal about how you want to defile me. That's down the road. Let me know what you're all about first. Defiling can come later. If you're lucky. But it's the few that just ruin it for the many. It's a shame. Now, do you enable people to have... It's a shame. Yeah. Are people going to be able to have I'll call it a group or a club or anything. Like on the one website again that we're on, we used to have, because I used to be a photographer, we used to have a group called Less Than Camera Shy. And so it was like anyone could join, but we would have parties. And they were a photo party. We'd get together at my studio, and I would take sexy and erotic photos of them, and then there'd also be playtime. groups that like to go to grab a beer. You know, there's ones who go to baseball games. There's ones that are just BDSM groups. There's, you know, is that going to be something that's, is it part of your site currently or something you're maybe going to add? Yes, it is. You can create a group chat where you invite people in and then it's a closed chat room just for the group. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. And you can, you can assign which one there should be at how many you can have as many as you want admin in this chat group and you can invite people you can ask people to leave if they're not if they're not polite but you can have these theme chat rooms where you can arrange parties events meetups everything like that that's great yeah i mean i see that that's a great aspect that I think people will enjoy, because that way they can, again, group people that have the same interest as they have. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what we are going for, is that when you find people you have something in common with, you can keep them in closed groups, and you can talk freely in there with them in a group chat. Yeah, that's awesome. We have Cupdact in France. There is a big swinger resort. And a lot of people are using groups down there. So every year they come back there, they start up groups again and meet up from last year and meet up again and having parties together. That kind of groups we would love to have where people are meeting up like once a year or having parties, events. Oh, that sounds fun. That does sound like a lot of fun. I mean, I just, I guess because here in America, because it is so, I don't feel oppressed, but I'll use that word. What's that? Taboo. It is kind of taboo. It's frowned upon. And here you have all these resorts in Europe and it's like more, more open and people are more accepting of it. Here we have to keep it. Like, I feel like I'm in the closet, you know, like nobody can know about what we do. You know, there's, you know, we have to have things very, to see how the Australians is swinging. And maybe we could learn something of each other. And I know that the Australian swingers, they are crazy. They are really putting it out there. They are even more free-spirited than the Europeans. And we are quite open about the swinger lifestyle over here. That's great. I had no idea. I had no idea. Wow. Let's say it this way. At the clubs, you will see taxis. You'll see people coming, opening in. The sign of it is a swinger club is in the open. So there's nobody in doubt of if you are going to a swinger club. It's not that taboo anymore. Oh, wow. So it's not like a backdoor. You have to have a certain knock and they have a little peephole. I have no password. My vest has no sleeves. Yeah, it's big clubs. They're promoting themselves, and people are not that shy anymore of telling that they are going into clubs. That's awesome. That's really cool. I feel like we're living back in the Stone Ages. Yeah. Well, again, one of the problems with this country is it was set up to have religious freedoms. All these religions think that their way is the only way, so they try to bash everyone that doesn't meet their code. or whatever it is. I know we've always promised we're not going to talk about religion on this show. No, I'm not picking on any religion. I'm just saying. In general, that's the thing. I mean, as an example, I'm not picking on the Mormons. They can go and have five wives, but they don't condone swinging. It's like, wait, you have five wives? That kind of is swinging. It is swinging. It is swinging. That's actually kind of insanity, but that's another story in itself. Yeah, that is, I think that would be considered swinging of sorts, that's for sure. I mean, the women may not be doing anything with each other, but he's with multiple women, so yeah, that is kind of swinging. If he's busy with one of them, the other one's got to do something. They're cooking and cleaning. Oh, I need five wives. Oh, my. But, I mean, everything in the swing community is about the trust. And here in Europe, we can just say that the trust we started like 10 years ago with, it was a little taboo, but people were starting talking about. Then the media started to talk about the swinger environment and starting to talk positive about it, that not talking about it in a learning way. How is it to be a swinger? And what is the downside? And what is the upside? And since then, it has exploded. There is so many swinger couples in Europe. Oh, wow. Yeah, I can imagine. That's really great. I was always surprised when, even around here on the website, we're on how many swingers are that reach out to us. And I was like, boy, I never knew there were so many swingers. But this is nothing compared to what you guys are experiencing. I mean, I would say, what, a fraction of the population over here are swingers? Or it's really underground. I'm not sure. It almost sounds like opposite. Like over here, it's like, oh, my God, you're a swinger. Oh, yeah. Over there, it sounds like, oh, my God, you're not a swinger? You're not a swinger? What's wrong with you? You're sick. You're sick. Get away from me. Oh, I don't think. But we must say that our website is also made after we found out how the American is swinging. Because we were not having so many features with putting up your your own events like on our map where you can have your everything is map based and because of we found out that the americans have so many home parties we actually have a button now saying we are having a home party and then you can actually invite people to it we didn't need that in europe but after we found out that you guys didn't go that much to the clubs but had a home party we had to embrace that oh yeah that's that's actually has been our experience. We've been to a lot more home parties than we have clubs. Is that something they can hide from people who aren't invited to the party? They can't hide events, but you have to request to go to an event and you have to be accepted. So there have to be an exception of you going after you be applied. So if you don't want anybody, somebody, don't accept them. Okay, then their request will just be deleted. Yeah, okay, that's good. That way you don't have people showing up to the party that weren't invited. Yeah, like all single mails. Yes, and that's also why we do not use any GPS. It is all manual put out on the map because the string environment shouldn't have a GPS put on it. And we also say to people, don't use your own address. Use it. a mile away, put the pin up a mile away, and then afterwards, when you have accepted people, give them their address. Okay, that's a good move. Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. Otherwise, you'd have all kinds of people just showing up at your house, you know, uninvited, and that wouldn't be good either. Hey, I'm here for the sex. No. Give DoorDash a whole new thing, doesn't it? DoorDash, yeah. Grubhub. Grubhub. We have been thinking so much about the security. Also, we age-verify people before they can get in. And we know that some people don't like to be age-verified, and we know that it can be hard for somebody, but the swinger environment should be age-verified. We do not want any kids running around on our platform. Yeah, but when I signed up for the age-verification, it told me I was too old. Then if it told you you were too old, what is it going to say about me? I'm older than you. It's like, you're too old, you can't have sex anymore. It's like, damn. That's not right. Donna's talking to too many people. I would never say that, dear. Oh, my goodness. All right, well, you know, again, give out the website. Give us, you know, bullet points. Again, the highlights of the site, because it is exciting. I have seen it. One of the things I really like is the color scheme. It's very pleasing. Oh. I haven't seen it yet, so I'm going to take a look. Yeah, again, promote the hell out of it. So it's sexyswingerlust.com. Check it out, guys. I want to do that as soon as we're done here. And then set up our profile and see where it goes from there. Here's a question. Since it is age-verified, you don't want children seeing it, does that mean like, I guess you have to log in so they can't see anything, until they're age verified and they can log in. Then they can see people's profiles? Yeah. They can't see anything and they can't put anything up to the website before they age verified. Okay. You have to scan your license in and then take a picture of you to show it matches. Oh, okay. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I have to do that for a lot of the adult sites that I'm on. It's the same thing. I have to have my license, picture of me, and make sure they look the same. Oh, that's good. That's great. I like that security. Yeah, because I know as adults we enjoy this, but this is definitely not kid-friendly at all. Yeah. Definitely. Especially when we put out the pictures. I mean, we already now have pictures and videos. That is not for kids. Yeah, absolutely. You can post videos on the site? Yeah, you can post the videos. Wow. That's great. Is there any length? Does it matter how long? Should it be a couple minutes long? or? 30 seconds. 30 seconds. Is it any length? It can be a few minutes long. I mean, it's eight minutes before we go over the limit, but around eight minutes. Okay, that's plenty. I don't think you want to put a full-length video up, you know, two hour, you know. That would be too much. Then we have to cut it off. There's a phrase you don't want to use around naked people, cut it off. Yeah. You don't want to use that. Not around naked people. And the good part is that we are, now we are actually, we have talked to a lot of people in the U.S. and we thought our whole, all our profiles would be in Europe and U.S. But we have actually also got a lot of interest from Asia and Australia. So hopefully we get the whole world to see all the swingers from around the world. And then we'll go review in clubs and let's say Japan and Sydney and make things ready for you guys. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's cool. That sounds amazing. The one website we're on, again, hate to bring that up. We're not telling their name. Right. But you can, what they call a hot date. So you can actually say, hey, I am going to be in London next Thursday, you know, looking for a hot date. And, you know, it puts it out there so anybody's interested can see. Okay, you're going to be in London and, you know, describe what you're looking to do. Do you offer something like that yet? Yeah, exactly that. Good. That's dynamite. That's great. We have a travel pin, so every time you travel somewhere, you can just put out, I'm traveling to this place, this date, and it's going home, this date, and I'm looking for, let's say, a girl, a couple, whatever you like. you can just show the whole world. And every time you post that in London, let's say you're going to London, you post out the travel, then everybody will get a notification that you are coming to London that day and you're seeking for this. Oh, wow. And all the swingers in London will come back over here to Philadelphia. It's like, oh, then just come to London quick. Let's go to Philadelphia. But that's what we also have. when we were designing these webpages, when you are going traveling to a place that is not only for tourists but also for locals, you have a hard time finding out how is the swinger environment here. And that's why when you put out that I'm coming, I'm a swinger, then you can start talking to people before you come down there and actually make things ready for when you arrive. That's great. Yeah, that is really nice. That is great. I think you've stumbled upon an incredible thing. I think you guys are going to be over successful. I think this is going to be the best one yet. We can only hope, right? We can only hope. I'd like to think my idea of giving positive comments to pictures is what really made the difference for them. You'll get the credit for them. Oh yeah, of course you will. I am going to ask you. Just tell them that. Just tell them that. If you have a banner or something I can put on our website that people can, you know, go right to your site. to me. You have my email. Send me a banner with whatever you have. Again, so they can go to hotwifepodcast.com and they'll be able to find the link to go to your site if they don't go to it after what Donna has told them your website address is. And that is secretswingerlust.com. Yeah. I want to make sure I said that right. I know it's like secretswingerlust. Say that drunk five times. I know. I don't think I could. I'd be blah. And we also have a promo code that is coming to you with the banner, a Hot Wife podcast promo code, so all your listeners can get 30 days free. Wow, that's awesome. That's great. Thank you so much. Oh my word, that's great. Definitely. Then what you want to do is come to our website. It'll be there. Well, this is going up tomorrow. Okay. So by the time they hear this, it'll be there. It'll be there. So go to our website, click on the banner, you get the 30 days free, and I guarantee you you're going to want to give them your card and pay your $11 a month. $11, that's really worth it. I've checked it out, it's a very nice site. We're going to have a profile. They updated and I got kicked off, I think it was my picture. Stop it. But they didn't want Fred Flintstone on there. Oh my God. I was going to beat him up just for a minute, guys. I'm going to go smack him. Hold on a second. But no, I think it's got a lot of elements that other sites are lacking. And the international reach, they've put a lot of tension into the international reach, which is great because a lot of people we know in the lifestyle do travel. Yeah, they travel not just in and of the United States, but they're going to other places around the world. the world, you know, Mexico and, you know, kind of Europe. So it's nice that you can find like-minded people, even if it's not, even if it's not playing, at least, you know, people that you can talk to. That's the other thing I really like. Besides the sex, we can talk to people that are more like-minded and they're not going to be offended. And that's kind of, it, I found very welcoming, you know, besides the sex. The sex is great, don't get me wrong, but it's nice. I can talk to people and, And I can talk about, you know, a big giant butt plug, and they're not going to be like, oh, my God, how can you say such a thing? Oh, my God. You had to throw giant in there? Yeah, yeah. Or something that's more, you know, well, a little butt plug just won't have the same effect. It made me step back a little. It's like, wow. I guess I got to return the Christmas gift I got you. Got the wrong size. It's really funny that you're saying that because we have been traveling around, in 32 countries now and talking to swingers. And every time we say the same thing. When you meet swingers in all these countries, they're so different. The swinger is the same thing. They're nice. They're polite. You can't scare them away of how you're talking. It's really nice to meet them. And they are like you. I mean, they are funny. They're open-minded. And they're like big butt plugs? Is that? Yeah. They like big butt plugs, too. Yeah, yeah. She's 4'11", likes a giant butt plug. Wow. Okay. The other ones pop out. I can't help it. I have to go a little bigger. I have to broaden my horizons. I have to call Elon Musk, see if I get one of the capsules from his SpaceX. Oh. See if you can land that in our front yard. Here, I have to get on my hands and knees. Oh, my God. My husband is a very sick man. I apologize for him. I have a wife, apparently. He's very much like everybody else that is in the swing environment. I don't try to take life too serious. Life's meant to be fun. Yeah, it really is meant to be fun. The short amount of time we're on this earth, let's just have fun. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's great. We're excited to see what kind of influx of people join your site. Again, I encourage all our listeners to visit our website, click on the banner. You can go to their website, that's fine. But if you click on it on our site, you'll get a 30-day free trial. That's kind of nice. That's like an early Christmas gift. Ooh, Christmas is coming early. Nice. So it's secretswingerlust.com. Correct. Okay. So you can put pictures up. You can put video up. Oh, that's nice. That's awesome. You can make groups. You can travel. Yeah. Get reviews on clubs around the world. Okay. I mean. Anything we're missing? It's. There is a lot of things. I mean, you can actually do four different kind of announcements of what you're doing. If you just want a booty call, you are making an event, you are traveling or you are visiting a swinger club, all these things you can post out and people will be notified if it is in their area. You can put up, when you are creating your pen, you are creating your own area of interest and then you decide where you want to have a notification from. 200 miles. That is your area of interest. If somebody comes into that area, you'll be notified. Wow. Nice. That is interesting. I don't know if any of the sites are where... Once we get going a little bit more and get more pictures and everything else, we'll have to do our updates with it. Oh, yeah. That'd be fun. Tell our listeners, like, hey, here's something else we discovered. This will be fun. Yeah. Thank you. That would be amazing. Yeah. We have with you all the way. That is great. So, all right. Well, we're going to wrap this up. Ask you guys to stay on line after we get done wrapping the show up here, and we'll talk a little more off air. Okay. Remember, everybody, it's secretswingerlust.com. That's great. Join. If you come from our website, it'll be a promo code, and you'll get- No, there'll be a banner. A banner? Okay, click on a banner. Yeah. And you get a 30-day free trial. So check it out. It'll be right on the front page right in the very beginning. Okay. You can click on it and you go there and sign up. Get your 30 days free and prepare to have some fun. Sounds good to me. All right. So we'll say goodbye to everybody. And Louisa and Johnny, thank you so much for being on today. I do appreciate that. It's great. That sounds like a very exciting website. I can't wait to check it out myself. I think it's something the Swingers Wifestyle is needed. Yes, I agree. Thank you, Seth, for having us. You're quite welcome. So like I said, hang on for a few minutes. Let us end the show here and we'll talk a little bit off air. All right, everyone. Stay horny. Have a great night, everybody.